Post etymological maps
>>62018157
>Indo-Iranian
>>62018157
>>62018157
>>62018187
>>62018195
You map are from Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/etymologymaps
>>62018424
Your maps*
Post asian ones
>>62018449
*you're maps
POMS :DDDDD
>>62018463
>Implying Asians speak a language
>>62018195
estland is nordic
>>62018157
Bumping for interest
>>62018187
We say cervoise too.
>>62024822
>pipele
kek
>>62018195
>Bathe once day a week
Nordics are literally sub human
>>62026272
>t. anglo "bathe every fortnight" saxon
>>62018157
>>62018187
A cognate would be Yidgha åmuno, amun, but this is disputable.
>>62026358
Worth noting: many use Caesar and Imperator both.
>>62024822
Yarak tb.h
>>62024822
"munn" is actually from "muna" - meaning "egg"
>>62026358
Don't greeks use the word "basileus" for rûm emperors?
>>62026358
What about Tsar in Russian? What does tsar mean?
>>62026397
racist
>>62024146
"syksy", "sygyzy" and "sügis" are from Proto-Finnic *süksü
Sami "čakča" and "čexxč" are from Proto-Samic *čëkčë
The Proto-Finno-Ugric should be *śükśi or *sükśi , I think.
>>62026401
Nice picture of a canadian lad is he your boyfriend?
>>62026421
Only during specific periods of history.
It means "king" or "chief" in normal use.
>>62026457
>Turks had lire
WHAT
>>62026444
Apperently "tsar" is only used for the Russian tsar.
In Estonian historical use, we called the tsar "keiser" though; as can be seen in an old folk song:
Kiitkeme oma keiseride,
austkeme Aleksanderide,
Means something like:
Let's praise our Emperor (tsar)
Let's honour Alexander
>>62026503
Interesting
>>62026589
inberfaasting
surely it must derive from caesar as well though
>>62026687
Yep, it is.
Both "keiser" and "tsar" are ultimately from Caesar.
>>62018157
>scale 1:6.000.000
syrians surely have a strange language
>>62026802
coincidentally the exact ratio of syrian women vs men that are entering my cunt
>>62026717
imetaja :DD
>>62026832
your cunt must be pretty loose
>>62026943
It literally means "suckler". - imema - "to suck", imetama - "to suckle"
>>62026717
>ssak
>ssavec
lil
>>62026802
>>62018187
French has two words for beer, one with hops (bière) and one without (cervoise - cognate to cervesa/ja/za)
>>62024822
Portuguese has also pinto<chick and piroca (I assume related to pirola).
Venetian (Northeastern asterisk in Italy) uses casso (same origin as Italian cazzo).
>>62026457
Portuguese "escudo" means "shield".
Dinar/denar <denarium have a cognate in Portuguese dinheiro/money.
>>62026444
Tsar < czar < Caesar.
German Kaiser has the same origin.
>>62026962
no, my cunt is tiny, but despite that it can pack a lot of people in it
>>62026589
>Turkoslavia
>>62026982
Yeah I know, the Finnish word for that is "imettäjä" which I found funny :D
>>62026717
>цицaч
>>62027083
"imettäjä" is pretty funny aswell :D
>>62027003
>Portuguese has also pinto<chick
For dick? That's just you guys down south. Up here nobody really uses that for anything other than chick. And even that it's more "pintaínho". Pinto at this point is just a surname.
>>62027161
Even though this map overstates minority languages, it paints Tallinn and the surrounding area orange. I don't know if they mean Swedish or German, since the city was German-Speaking (a low german dialect) until the late 19th century. It never spoke Swedish.
Painting Hiiumaa/Dagö as orange is somewhat correct though, even though they haven't lived there for a long time now.
The word lunch comes from the Finnish word lounas, signifying both the direction of southwest and the meal had when the sun is in that part of the sky.
Japanese word for band-aid, top to bottom
>bansoukou
>bandoeido
>sabio(?)
>kattoban
>ribateepu(?)
>kizuban
>>62024822
>references to things that pierce
Needle-tier dicks
>hanging and swinging metaphors
Gamma languages
>tools and similar metaphors
Beta languages
>references to the hardness of the erect penis
Alpha languages
>>62018187
who the fuck makes these? ol is in the dictionary but literally no one uses it
>>62026358
same as above, you would use car for tsar and cesar for caeser
>>62026717
>cиcap
>>62027412
I mentioned that many languages use both Caesar and Imperator.
And these maps tend to mark archaic/non-used forms, just to see the extent (or former extent) of a word.
>tfw so lonely in the Balkans
Only Hungarians got it worse than us.
>>62027670
Worth noting: Estonian "vorst" comes from Low German "worst"
>>62027457
>Zobens
>Zubyn
Really makes you think...
>>62027405
you do realise by now you are the australia of muslims, right?
>>62018471
*xor maps
>>62027703
Perfect Polish borders
>>62026551
turkish currency is called "turkish lira"
we got it from byzantines i think
>>62027741
What? How come?
>>62027767
hals is a synonym here desu, though it refers more to the front of the neck
>>62026358
>for imperator
>Ymerawdwr
>the Welsh language
>>62027801
I would've expected Icelandic to be different.
>>62027847
>belarusian identity crisis
>>62027824
by your beautiful shitspoting
>>62027837
phonetically that seems pretty close desu
em-me-ra-dor
>>62027731
We also use "bosque" to describe a smaller forest
>>62027969
In Estonian "voor" exists, but it means an oval ridge formed under glacier ice (there is an English word but I don't know it)
>>62024822
fasz doesn't mean tool
>>62027731
>gora
>forest
>>62028052
>>62027969
Eesti is flat, mountains only hills.
>>62028173
Our word for "hill" is "küngas", the only cognates are Livonian "kǖnka" and Izhorian "künkerä".
>>62028212
Mäki is exclusively only a hill in finnish.
>>62027457
Interesting map. Especially hungary. Must have been one hell of a immigration road trip to be in contact with persians.
>>62027969
Хoх
>>62028256
"Mägi" also means "hill", especially when talking about Estonia.
Our biggest hill, 318m; is called "Suur munamägi", which translates to "Big egg mountain" or "Big egg hill"
>>62024822
Why is Turkey always in shit maps about Europe but never the Caucasus?
>>62028306
>Big dick hill
>>62028306
Big dick hill :D:D
>>62028306
Big benis hill :DDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>62028294
Yep, both Estonian and Finnish also have a lot of loanwords from Indo-Iranian.
E.g Finnish "vasara" and Estonian "vasar" are from Indo-Iranian, a cognate is Persian گرز (gurz), meaning "club, mace" and also Sanskrit वज्र (vajra), meaning "thunderbolt", "weapon of indra" + a whole lot of other meanings.
>>62028112
>gora
>mountain
>>62028372
In Lithuania and Latvian vasara means summer.
t. expert
>>62028383
>gora
>not mountain
>>62027969
Tunturi (fell), tundra and tanner (ground) are all related too. Tundra and tunturi are loanwords from sami while "tanner" and "tundar" are most likely from the same root word.
Pretty neat.
>>62028399
In Finnish and Estonian, it means "hammer"
The Lithuanian and Latvian "vasara" is unrelated. It is (distantly) related to Russian "vesna" and Latin "ver"
>>62028294
We have a surprising amount of iranian loanwords, which give rise to many crack theories about our origins.
>>62028372
I've heard Ilmari could be connected with Indra
In Udmurt it's Inmar IIRC which feels similar to both
>>62028443
What is the Hungarian word for "100"?
In Estonian it is "sada" and in Finnish "sata", both from Indo-Iranian. (if you know about Indo-European languages there is a split between "satem" and "centum" languages, named after the Avestan and Latin words for "100", respectively, and Indo-Iranian is "satem")
>>62024822
>kalu
Muna is more common by far
>>62028534
száz
I guess the word was borrowed before the finno-ugric split.
>>62028372
It would be pretty intuitive to assume the word "vasama" as in lightning bolt/ arrow bolt is also related.
>>62028476
Woah there ancient sumerian lets stick to everyday words for now.
I've noticed that Russian and Swedish (not sure about other Scandinavian languages) have a lot, like really a lot of common root words. Sometimes it's not even connected to a third language where the languages could possibly borrow from (usually German).
Here's the examples(swe-rus):
Kirurg-Hirurg - (Surgeon)
Krok-Kryk - (Hook)
Del-Delit (a part\to divide)
Öga-Oko (an eye)
Dygn-Den' (a 24h-day)
Läkare-Lekar (a doctor)
Advokat-advokat (a lawyer)
Mjuka-mjagki (soft)
It's all i can come up at the moment, will add some more later.
>>62027161
>Mezikämen
That is an old Finnic word, we have "mesikämmen" as a nickname for bears. It should be grouped with us and not Russia.
>>62028624
Proto-Finno-Ugric folks had Indo-Iranian influenced religion because they were living between them and the Balts circa 2000 BC . Whether the influence by neighbouring peoples was strictly one way or not is an open question though but Indra is not thought to be an original Indo-European word.
>>62027703
Note about Kon or whatever: Finnish also has "koni" but it is not common usage
>>62026272
Im pretty sure it means ritual bath like spiritual and bodily cleansing while not exactly disclosing the fact that people cleaned themselves up other days as well. We still retain that part by most people bathing in sauna once a week and oftentimes in saturday.
>>62028688
russians come from ancient vikings
>>62027969
Mäki = hill
>>62028838
Russians were ruled by Vikings
http://www.cracked.com/article_16275_the-9-most-devastating-insults-from-around-world.html
>>62028688
Is oko connected with okna?
>>62028688
Majority of these words have counterparts in other languages.
>>62028688
Some of them can be cleared up
>Kirurg-Hirurg - (Surgeon)
Greek loanword
>Del-Delit (a part\to divide)
We have Teil, teilen
>Öga-Oko (an eye)
Exists in many other IE languages
>Dygn-Den' (a 24h-day)
That too
>Advokat-advokat (a lawyer)
Latin loanword
Overall, Germanic is somewhat inbetween Balto-Slavic and Italo-Celtic, especially lexically closer to Balto-Slavic
>>62028865
It wasn't Russians, it was Slavic tribes which are include all of us.
Anyway Normann theory is just a theory.
>>62018157
>>62018187
>>62026397
>>62026457
>>62026589
>>62026717
>>62027670
>>62027703
>>62027731
>>62027847
>>62027911
>muh macedonia
>they speak same language as bulgarian
>bulgarians in denial
>they speak bulgarian
Top fucking kek Bulgars, they have more words in common with us.
>>62028688
>kirug-hirurg
Probably German, in Estonian there is "kirurg"
>öga-oko
Common Indo-European origin. Latin "oculus" is also related. Ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *h3ekʷ-
>advokat-advokat
Probably German. In Estonian there is "advokaat".
>mjuka-mjagki
Probably a coincidence. The swedish cognate to "mjagki" is actually "mänga", meaning "many" (?)
>Dygn-Den'
Actually a coincidence;even though they look alike.
Similar to how Latin "dies" and English "day" aren't actually related.
English "day" and Swedish "dag" (I actually don't know about "dygn") are from Proto-Indo-European *dʰegʷʰ (to burn).
Russian дeнь is related to Latin "dies", Lithuanian "diena", ultimately from Proto-Indo-European *dyew- (sky, heaven, to be bright)
>>62028443
"Muslim Sources on the Magyars in the Second Half of the 9th Century : The Magyar Chapter of the Jayhānī Tradition" is pretty good read along with any books detailing byzantine writings on the magyars.
>>62028912
There is no norman theory. There is scientific view and bullshit.
And Rurik came to rule note all slaves but certain northern east slavic and finish tribes.
>>62029018
>note
not
>>62027825
here too.
the back is the "Nacken"
>>62028377
He
She
It
Why UK doesn't have genders?
>>62029095
No grammatical gender.
>>62029095
Not that kind of gender system mate.
>>62028874
Not sure. But it has same "meaning" in the languages, like "watch through".
>>62028911
>>62028962
That's interesting. Unfortunally i don't know German that good so i could compare.
What about this:
pengar-denga(i) (money)
karta-karta (map)
Also i assume now that the professions are borrowed from Latin
pedagog (a teacher)
Our suffix SK same in Swedish
Teknisk-TehnicheSKy
Svenska-ShvedSKy
Ryska-Russky
etc.
>>62029229
We have "lauk", but more commonly in the compounds "murulauk" and "porrulauk".
They mean different plants in the genus Allium, one of them is "leek" I think.
Our "sibul" is from Low German sipolla, zipolle.
>>62029303
Can't forgot "küüslauk" - "garlic"
Murulauk is apparently "Allium schoenoprasum"
And porrulauk - "Allium porrum"
>>62028958
>Montenegro
>Kosovo
>Serbian
>>62029387
>Allium
>>62029441
Pardon?
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Allium
>>62029479
Ayyy.
Maybe Aliums brought garlic to whiteys?
>>62029502
Ah.
>>62029389
You forgot
>Bosnia/Republic of Serbs
Though we all do speak the same language, even now every Albozerg on Kosovo knows Serbian.
>>62029526
Well if Bosnia became part of Bulgaria you think they wouldn't start using bulgarian words?
>>62029824
Bosnians can barely learn their own language, let alone change it.
So no.
>>62029229
We also have lauch, its used for leek thouh nowadays.
>>62028372
Aryans were our slaves and yet we borrowed their words
>>62029865
I was talking hypotheticaly. I was saying that if Bulgaria switched some territories with Serbia those territories would gradually change their language to the language of the country that thay are living in.
>>62030074
Even in that case, Bosnians wouldn't be smart enough to do it.
Maybe some western regions near our two borders, where bulgarians are a minority.
>>62029229
>sibul :D
Estonian truly is the spurdo language
>>62027731
>gora is forest in Bulgarian
Why though? It means mountain in here.
>>62030054
>Aryans were our slaves
And Greeks were Roman slaves.
Greek Slave Teachers, Greek Slave Doctors, Greek Slave Architects and Greek Slave Slave Owners.
Slave in the times back then != Cotton Niggas in the US
>>62027767
>krk
We have that one too - kark, but it doesn't mean neck, rather just the back of a neck.
>>62027861
>kopek
Why does it sound so funny?
>>62027767
>gwddf
>>62030054
>finnic fairytales
You were living in mud and dirt like savages you are.
It was Swedes that brought Indo-Europan words to you.
>>62030464
We have a saying
>Nije šija nego vrat
Basically meaning it's not neck it's neck.
>>62030602
He's wrong but you are wrong too tbqh
Is there a map for the word "freedom" in European languages?
>>62030054
Just a lot of contact between our peoples.
>>62030532
İt is also popularly used here
>>62027731
We also use Woods to describe a smaller forest
>>62030639
it's not perfect, but
http://ukdataexplorer.com/european-translator/?word=freedom
>>62030639
No because they have no word to express true freedom like American does
>>62030393
I did some googling, it turns out it used to mean "mountain" here too. But somewhere in the centuries it shifted to meaning "forest". Have no idea why, but now we use "planina" for mountain.
>>62030829
>>62030393
I can make a sentence only using word Gore (plural of Gora)
Gore gore gore gore.
Up there mountains are burning worse.
>>62030393
It used to mean mountain too, but it switched to forest for whatever reason. We even have a mountain called Sredna Gora.
>>62030616
Same
>Aкo нe e вpaт, щe e шия.
>>62030602
Swedes brought us some Indo-European words but not any Indo-Aryan words. Finnics and Indo-Aryans used to be neighbors in Central and Southern Russia before Indo-Europeans even got in Europe
>>62030602
Can't say anything about Finnish but Swedish is a small loan source.
I can think of a few words of Swedish origin (tasku, plika, kroonu), but that's it.
There are way more loanwords from other Germanic languages, mainly Low German and Proto-Germanic.
Here's a few off the top of my head:
kuningas "king" - from Proto-Germanic *kuningaz, this is a very archaic loan, something similar can be found in Lithuanian (kunigas, kuningas), but all living Germanic languages have gotten rid of the -az at the end.
riik "state" - this actually might be from Swedish but I find a Low German origin more probable myself.
kelder "cellar" - this is from Low German.
köök - "kitchen" - from Low German
pott "pot" - from Low German.
padi "pillow" - from Proto-Germanic. Cogante to English "bed" and German "Bett"
There are also a lot of Baltic loans:
kanep (weed, hemp) - from Latvian
hammas (tooth) - from Latvian I think (I forgot)
mets (forest) - From Baltic
ratas (wheel) - Baltic
A lot of older loans are from Proto Indo-European or Indo-iranian
sool "salt" - Indo-European
sool "intestine", "gut" - Indo-European, cognate to English "colon"
mesi "honey" - Indo-European. Cognate to English "mead"
rebane "fox" - Indo-iranian
vedama "to lead", "to carry" - Indo-European. Cognate to Lithuanian "vesti"
There are few Slavic loans, I can think of:
raamat "book" - from Old East Slavic
aken "window" - from Old East Slavic
kapsas "cabbage" - from Russian
>>62030633
The most probable theory is that Aryans fell as war slaves, which isn't too far-fetched.
>>62027636
Your language is awesome
>>62030993
>Finnics and Indo-Aryans used to be neighbors in Central and Southern Russia before Indo-Europeans even got in Europe
>this bullshit again
Indo-Europeans fucking originated in Europe, modern day Ukraine. Look up Yamnaya culture and no Finnics weren't here first, your shitty fringe theories from 1900's aren't valid now.
>>62031009
Because of Germanic loans, we have quite a number of cognates with English, which I find very interesting.
rikas "rich" - cognate to English "rich"
kipper "skipper" - cognate to English "skipper"
torm "storm" - cognate to English "storm"
paat "boat" - cognate to English "boat"
tuba "room" - cognate to English "stove", although a more similar meaning can be found in German "Stube"
kuld "gold" - cognate to English "gold"
>>62031192
And Finno-Ugrics originate from Volga river, which is in Europe, and were there earlier than the first Indo-Euros existed.
>>62031009
riik is reich in german and riek in low german.
A lot of low german loan words came to baltics(and also to scandinavia) through the Hanse.
I think it is the biggest source of loan words for scandinavian languages and baltics got a lot too.
>>62026717
>pattedyr
>literally tit animal
nice "language" you got there
>>62031259
Those are not "english" those are from lower German.
Examples with High-German:
reich = rich, das Reich = The Empire
Skipper is the same we don't have sea in the south so we use northern (lower) German words
Sturm = strom
boat = Boot
tube = Stube
kuld = Gold
English is not the Origin of those words.
>>62031192
Ukraine was just one part of a vast steppe where violent nomadic savages(your ancestors) lived
>>62031337
>and were there earlier than the first Indo-Euros existed.
Can you provide some evidence or are you gonna parrot the same thing?
For Indo-Europeans we have definite genetic, archaeological proof. Dating from at least 3,500BC that's 5,500 years ago.
While Finno-Ugric language group is dated 4000 years old.
>(The Finno-Ugric group is usually dated to approximately 4000 years of age, the Samoyedic a little over 2000.)
>>62018187
Nobody uses ol. The colloquial term would be pir.
>>62024822
The Slovene form is kurec, actually.
>>62026358
>Imperator
It should be cesar. Nobody has ever said imperator.
>>62027911
It's rakun, not rakuna. That would be the dual form or the second declension form of the noun.
>>62031443
Are you retarded?
>>62031358
Through the Hansa, yes.
But Estonia and Latvia were ruled by Germans (speaking a Low-German dialect) for almost 800 years, which certainly left a mark on the language.
Proto-Germanic loans are much older and can be found in Finnish aswell.
Finnish has some Germanic loans that are missing in Estonian aswell; e.g "ruhtinas" - "sovereign prince" (we use the Low German "vürst"). The English cognate to "ruhtinas" is "dright", although it is an archaic word.
Related to princes, almost every word related to nobility in Estonian is of (Low) German origin: keiser, herstog, vürst, krahv, rüütel (knight) etc
>>62031455
>nomadic savages
>uses alphabet invented by them
>uses computer invented by them among other things
ror
>>62031443
Yes, that's not what I meant.
"Cognate" means the words are related; they come from a common source
Proto Germanic -> Low German -> Estonian
Proto Germanic -> Old English -> English
That is called "cognates"
>>62031455
>fenni
>calling anyone savage
KEK
>>62031443
Is das Reich ever used to refer to Germany nowadays? Like in law text or formal stuff
>>62031550
>we wuz phoenicians n turing n shit
>>62031571
Finns aren't Fenni of Tacitus.
>>62031587
>we wuz here since 10000BC yet there's no evidence to support but better believe it
>>62031630
Yeah I know. Finns are Summerians.
>>62031568
Actually with Low German and Old English you can go back to a commoner root than Proto-Germanic since they're more closely related and in the same group sub group of Ingvaeonic
>>62031577
No, Germany is no Reich anymore. Bundesrepublik is used today.
>>62031658
You're too retarded to understand what the topic is about.
Uralic people originate in the Volga-Perm area where their ancestors most likely lived prior to Indo-European nomadic people of the steppes south of Volga spreading west and east.
>>62028958
Tbh, I don't want those pricks, they're in severe denail with all the mixing that happened down there, God knows what they are.
As for the country, it's too big of a fuckup, and we don't have the will nor the funds to fix it.
Best case scenario, we and Bulgarians split it.
We get the West (although it got infested with Albozergs), they get the East. Greece could get the part that's bordering them. Tbh, I just want Ohrid.
>>62031739
No you are fucking retarded, look what you've said.
>Finnics and Indo-Aryans used to be neighbors in Central and Southern Russia before Indo-Europeans even got in Europe
Who the fuck do you think Indo-Aryans are? Not Indo-Europeans?
>>62031733
Ah okay. We unironically still refer to ourselves as such (riket) in some circumstances, even though our sad excuse of an empire is long gone.
>>62031830
>sad excuse of an empire
>>62031733
Do you know if Low German "riek" also has that meaning? Or do they use it more similar to Estonian? (e.g "republic" is "vabariik" - lit. "free state", so Germany is "Saksamaa Liitvabariik" - "German united free state" or something like that)
>>62031830
Rike means kingdom. We have a monarch. Not that hard to understand.
>>62026380
>batero
What the fuck Sardinia
>>62031826
I didn't say that but technically he's both right and wrong. Western Russia is a part of Europe but otherwise he's more or less on point although I'd say that the earliest IE neighbours of Uralics spoke something extinct that we don't know much about it.
>>62031830
>>62031855
Just as a side note, “Reich“ and the likes are originally from Celtic
>>62031378
Your word for it has literally the same etymology as ours, you fucking idiot.
>>62029387
kuuslauk like our kynsilaukku ("nail bag")?
>>62031904
>Rike means kingdom
That's one of the things it means, yes. It also mean empire, nation and realm. It originates from the same word that became the German "Reich" and can, as above mentioned, be used as such.
>>62018157
>Turku comes from Mongolian word for silk, Torga
>Turku is the first city of Finland
Can't make this up.
>>62031964
It's stupid to conflate linguistic groups and genetics anyway, that's a 19th century thing. Key example Hungary, they genetically cluster exactly with their neighbours, and not some Mongolian Khanty/Mansi as linguistics might make one think
>>62032049
Then what the hell did you mean by
>We unironically still refer to ourselves as such (riket) in some circumstances, even though our sad excuse of an empire is long gone.
It has nothing to do with empires.
>>62032035
>same etymology
So what? We still don't call it tit animal.
>>62031855
Reich used to have a broader meaning than it has today, and even more than english speakers get, because of the bad translation.
Reich is not meant in the sense of empire but more like land of someone. So France for example is Frankreich, the Reich of the Franken.
Or Austria is Österreich the eastern Reich and so on.
So it kinda fits somewhere between your use and the translation today.(I hope you understand what i mean)
>>62032043
"küüs", is "nail", yes.
But we use "lauk" only for the name of the genus "Allium" (that includes onions, leeks, chives etc)
>>62032098
Interesting.
Our meaning has definitely broadened though.
>>62032098
How about "realm"?
>>62032108
Kynsilaukku is an old fringeword here, everyone says valkosipuli (white onion)
>>62032094
Neither do we. "Patte" is a verb referring to animal kids sucking milk from their mother, not the actual tit itself.
>>62031964
Still claiming we wuz here first is fucking idiotic and retarded, Indo-Europeans pretty much originated in parallel, except Uralic were to north and Indo-Europeans to the south. We also have definite evidence of their existence as attested trough genetics, archeology, language and yada yada. (Majority non south Europeans today autosomal derive from Indo-Europeans)
While datings for Uralic are ranging from 9000BP ( old theories disregarded today) to 2000BC today according to your own Finnish scholars(Häkkinen) today.
>At the same time new linguistic results appeared contradicting the continuity theories: both the datings of Proto-Saami [19][20] and Proto-Finnic[21] as well as Proto-Uralic (Kallio 2006; Häkkinen 2009)[22][3] were argued to be clearly younger than were thought in the framework of the continuity theories.
>After the rejection of the continuity theories, the recent linguistic arguments have placed the Proto-Uralic homeland around the Kama River, or more generally close to the Great Volga Bend and the Ural Mountains. The expansion of Proto-Uralic has been dated to about 2000 BC (4000 years ago), whereas its earlier stages go back at least one or two millennia further. Either way, this is considerably later than the earlier views of the continuity theories, which would place Proto-Uralic deep into Europe.[22][3]
>>62032098
The word same word from which reich originates from can also mean ruler.
Some names, like Eric and Ulric have that word in them.
>>62032155
That is also in there. It is realm, but also kingdom, empire and so on.
While we have also words for those things Reich is more of a term of a category they all fall under.
But today the word Reich has a rather bad connotation so it is only used historically.
>>62032246
Yep.
Latin "rex" (king) is related.
>>62032252
I think "reign" is the best translation for our Reich.
>>62032246
But this word got lost (if it even existed) in german. Ruler is Herrscher and I can't think of aword for ruler that comes from Reich or something like that (or I am just stupid right now).
>>62032079
Because the word can refer to multiple things, empire among other. Which is what it was referred to initially, as our basic laws were codified in 1734. While we still had an empire, that is. Which is also why Finnish law also use that same word, even though Finland isn't even a monarchy. The meaning has simply shifted with time to better suit current conditions.
>>62030911
It would be
W górze góry goreją gorzej.
In polish. So all of these have common roots.
>>62018195
>most European languages uses a JEWISH term for Saturday.
>>62032387
i know right? makes you think..
>>62032356
Using the word riket to refer to Sweden is way older than that. It has nothing to do with we wuz empire.
>>62032331
Regent
But this one is clearly not german and not germanic.
>>62028052
What does harju mean in Estonian?
>>62024822
>greek
>circumcision
>>62032205
I've read Häkkinens posts on a Finnish forum and he claimed 2000BC for Finno-Ugric with an additional millenium before that for Uralic(Finno-Ugric+Samoyedic).
The early offshoots of (pre)Uralic are extinct so the age itself doesn't exactly matter. Comb Ceramic culture could have been a Para-Uralic zone and we couldn't tell because Comb Ceramic languages are extinct(except for Uralic itself).
>>62032331
Reich is from Proto-Germanic *rīkiją (rulership, government, authority, kingdom, realm), which is derived from *rīks (king, ruler), and it has no attested forms in living languages, but as anon previously said, it survives in names ending with -ric, -rich, -riks, -reiks
>>62032387
Where I live Sonnabend is also used very frequently. It translates to Sun evening because it is the day before Sunday.
>>62032387
Don't be suprised Muhammad. Jesus will also reach you.
>>62032428
Regent comes directly from latin regere.
So it does not come from Reich.
>>62032461
That's good, that's good...
>>62024822
čurák is not from chicken, but from "čurat" which means "to pee"
>>62032387
gee, it's almost as if these languages have roots older than 2000 years old.
>>62024822
top lul
>>62032434
Nothing.
Similar roots can be found in "harjuma" (to get used to), "harjutama" (to practise), "harilik" (usual), "hari" (brush, top)
The genitive of the last one is "harja".
>>62031471
>The Slovene form is kurec, actually.
Still better: klinec, because it isn't obsolete.
Knew some chap from Romania, I could pick up a lot of Romani words he spoke because they have a shared Sanskrit root, the number system was VERY similar, does Punjabi or Proto-Indo Aryan/European language share words with other European languages? wouldn't be surprised if Greek shares words since Pakistan was ruled by the Greeks and an empire flourished by the name of Taxila.
>>62024146
"otoñu" is wrong. It is "seronda" from "sero" (late) meaning "late season"
>>62032593
Imaš prav, ja.
>>62032594
They are both Indo-European, so yes, they share some basic roots (like numbers) and grammatical concepts.
>>62032043
Like our kynsilaukka. Look it up.
>>62032455
Pretty sure ri is the modern Irish word for king.
>>62032205
At least in Häkkinen's Finnish texts that 2000 BC means the time Finnish language (and some people) arrived in Finland.
>>62032533
But you have places ending or starting "harju" or am I wrong?
Harju means a glacier ridge in Finnish.
>>62032704
Which texts?
>>62030911
Reminds me of
>Kosil kosoj-kosoj kosoj kosoj-kosoj kosoj
>>62032786
Do I remember it wrong?
Too lazy to look it up but I think Häkkinen puts Finnish language arriving in Finland to about that time.
But the current consensus on how late Finnish language arrived to Finland is probably a surprise for many Finns.
>>62032753
Yes we do, "Harjumaa" is the biggest one.
Our word for that is "oos", from Swedish "ås",
>>62032787
whats it mean?
>>62030911
>>62032368
Gori na gori gori.
>>62027314
>>bandoeido
cute
>>62032841
Finnish language arriving in Finland by 2000BC is absurd.
Estonian and Finnish would be way different if that was the case.
>>62032881
What's the time then?
>>62032787
What does that mean?
We have something similar, but it doesn't really form a sentence:
Kosa (hair)
Kosa (scythe)
Kosa (some kind of an angled hill, really steep, can't explain it properly)
>>62030829
>planina
That means plain in Czech
>>62032704
>At least in Häkkinen's Finnish texts that 2000 BC means the time Finnish language
I don't know how you came to that conclusion or maybe you're cross eyed.
http://www.sgr.fi/sust/sust264/sust264_hakkinenj.pdf
Page 96-97
>As the new dating for Late Proto-Uralic suggests a time around 2000 BC (Kallio
2006; Häkkinen 2009), even Early Proto-Uralic seems to be later than Late
Proto-Indo-European. Consequently we have no reason to assume the beginning
of contacts between Uralic and Indo-European before 3000 BC, and even the
oldest Indo-European loanwords would be later than Late Proto-Indo-European.
>>62027430
And what's funny about that word? In Chechen "Siysar" means "yesterday"
>>62024146
We also say Güz instead of Sonbahar bc Sonbahar literally means last spring.
>>62027703
Yılkı/Jılkı means wild horse. Turkic people used to tame wild horses for a season and free them again when they don't need the horses anymore. Those horses called Yılkı. It's a Turkic word from Orkhun scripts. It literally means "untamed"
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yılkı
>>62027861
the word "It" also means dog in Turkish. Actually the word Köpek started to use in Anatolian Turkish about 1300. "Köp"ürmek literally means Foaming which is used for to get bigger. Köpek means big thing. Anatolian Turkics used "Köpek İt" words together to tell about the size of a dog. Somehow people widely say Köpek instead of İt today.
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/İt
>>62026457
It seems we're the only ones proud of our Frankish heritage
