So we all know there are shitton of mudslimes everywhere in West. We also all know that some of these are causing problems and generally being dirty niggers.
But the main question is: Does the rest integrate? I mean, some nations have tenth of their population muslim, they are literally making western nations. But are muslims also first world citizens now?
>>61959489
NO, ONLY CHRISTIANS AND ATHEISTS CAN BE EUROPEAN. EITHER BRING IN LATINOS OR START BREEDING. EUROPE WILL BE NORTHERN AFRICA IN 20 YEARS
>>61959489
Yes, they integrate their neighbourhoods into the Caliphate.
>>61959489
FOB Muslims are very different from native muslims.
Our muslims are just Bulgars who were forced into Islam by the Ottomans. Russias muslims are kept in their own areas and are well regulated.
None of this happens in western nations. They're cucks with no pride for their nation.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED FRANCE HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
>>61959612
>>61959677
They got tenth of the voting rights in few most favorite countries in Europe, thats a damn lot. And yet those countries seem to be going on same as before.
Terrorist attacks are linked to ISIS not to Islam itself and you all know it so stop memeing
>2012
>>61959489
>tfw 20 million muslims in Europe
This map obviously doesn't count the illegals.
>>61959825
OK, all memes aside, as a person from a mostly mestizo country, I do not believe that the recent changes in demographics for Europe will lead to any form of prosperity. The Americas are an example. The more homogeneous the country, the richer and more successful it is. Europe is no exception. More groups means more arguments. Europe either needs to have more kids, or cut social services. No excuses.
>>61959780
>t. White Minority by 2040
>>61960065
>America
>homogeneous
Also the whole point of this whole progressive sjw movement is that there are no groups, that we learn to live together in harmony. The single most important obstacle to that is currently unironically islamophobia. I'm not saying muslims cause issues, but speaking practically, those issues would touch only like 2% of population if there wouldn't be for the medialization and hatred towards the islam growing from that.
Other than that, the main point of this whole "refugees welcome, suck mudslime cock" movement is to finally settle all that shit that is happening in Middle East. Or at least show muslims that West really isn't fucking them up, its just themselves doing that.
>>61960324
America is still mostly a European diaspora. Uruguay, Canada, and Argentina are homogeneous relative to Guatemala, Mexico and Peru. Europe says the ONLY way to move forward is more immigration. Either have more kids, or cut services. Why do you believe that countries HAVE to be melting pots? Why do you think Austria-Hungary fell?
>>61960551
>Austria-Hungary fell?
Because they lost the war and were balkanized into non dangerous little states?
>>61960551
How is this comparable with A-H?
>>61960324
Also, I am very sorry if I am rambling. I am obviously projecting a lot of insecurities into this issue. I guess I just want to say Multiculturalism will not enrich Europe. It will just make it less European.
>>61960551
grab your masters degree in geopolitics on your way out, we're printing them in bulk
>>61960606
>>61960637
Sorry, I meant it in the sense that "Multi-cultural" doesn't make you stronger. It just means as soon as a strong government falls, balkanization is inevitable along cultural lines.
>>61960719
Austrians back then where to over 90% aganist being divided from Hungary.
>>61960703
Wait, are you insulting me, political science degrees, or both?
>>61960719
A-H had just one culture though, the austrian one. There were many minorities sure, but they all followed Vienna.
Europe imports those people because there is not enough workforce, and native europeans will not have more kids, there is really no other way
>>61959780
>our Hindu population i-is so m-much better, r-rite?
>>61959612
EXACTLY ! 6 TRILLIONS MUDSHITS IN FRANCE ALREADY
#GrandRemplacement
>>61959489
They do. In a few decades they will be portugal-tier, we'll barely ever notice them.
>>61959489
arabs=gypsies
simple as that
they look the same
they smell the same
they act the same
>>61960793
Giving up on individualism is a way.
And no, Muslim culture can't integrate into modern European values already from its base.
You would have to destroy their belonging and their traditional way of life to integrate them into Europe to a degree that makes them the same as other Europeans.
>>61960793
Yes there is. Cut social services.
Europe has to decide, if it is adamant against having children, then the future will look one of two ways: Brown and welfare, or White and no welfare.
It is a tough choice.
Also, there was a major anti Austrian movement throughout the 19th century. Replace Black Hand with ISIS or whatever.
>>61959780
You can not talk much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcuWqw2tT8
>>61960952
>Cut social services.
Sacrificing a part of our identity in the vague attempt to save another one ? Europe isn't invaded, you Alarmists. All of the Arab League could go here and they would still be a minority.
>>61960952
outside of 4chan people dont give a fuck about the fact that immigrants are brown or black
>>61959489
they don't integrate but it's a good thing because german mentality is cancer
>>61960825
>A group of people who are incredibly under represented in crime and rape. who out perform natives in school performance and have a religion that is naturally kept to itself.
who the fuck would literally argue that hindus arent some the greatest immigrants you can get? have fun with shakira law mbongo
>>61959868
*over 50 million
>>61959489
Shitton of Hindus and Christians immigrants here. Fucking whitey, fuckin tax breaks for the rich white euro immigrants. I know the feeling. ;(
>>61961153
Exclude Russia and the European part of Turkey.
>>61959825
>Terrorist attacks are linked to ISIS not to Islam itself and you all know it so stop memeing
>ISIS
>not connected to Islam
What enables terrorism in Western countries are unironically muslims and their neighbourhoods. If you don't have mudslime ghettos, you don't have terrorism. And the only way to prevent mudslime ghettos is to prevent the number of muslims going critical. You can go ABLOO ABLOO THE GOVERNMENT JUST HAS TO INTEGRATE THEM WELL but that's bullshit.
A. Government is the least efficient body to do anything.
B. The measures necessary for that would be certainly against human rights
not to mention
C. They don't want to integrate, just live like they did in their old country but with a better standard of living
>>61961239
If we would get rich muslims insteed of welfare savages it would be much less of a problem desu.
>>61961257
But what about former Yugoslavia (Albania, Bosnia Herzegovina and so on)
>>61961030
I mean...I guess I have to just ask. Isn't a big part of being European being White? Welfare is roughly 150 years old. Don't you care that your country will not look the same?
Maybe I am just racist...
>>61960793
>A-H had just one culture though, the austrian one.
Suuuure, that's why it was called Austro-HUNGARIAN monarchy, right?
>>61959825
YEAH!? WASSUP BIGOTS?
>>61959489
We have much more now
>>61961030
>Sacrificing a part of our identity
Considering that part of your identity is killing birthrates better than any plague could, you really should.
>>61961372
Actually I meant EU with Europe.
>>61961392
whats your point
>>61961322
Well, it would never happen. Gulfies, and Jordanians/Tunisians generally live better than the average European. So you're stuck with some North Africans and Pakis/Indians/Banglas. I still don't like how these immigrants are stealing our jobs.
>>61961322
rich muslims tend to push their muslim stuff through politics more actively
>>61961402
I hate this image so much, show some respect and stop making a strawman.
>>61961387
France has, unironically, never defined itself by being white. Ethnicity never posed itself as question here.
I think that people are vastly overestimating. Remember that the number of refugees is not infinite and it functions in waves. Even the most hardcore leftists don't want people who won't integrate, by the way. France "endured" Italians, Armenians (1 million+), Portuguese, Spaniards among many other things without too much changing. We can handle a few millions Muslims. At least I think so.
>>61961387
>being European
This is a forced meme. There is nothing universally European.
>>61961569
yeah, cos you're a muslim fuckface
QUESTION: IS WHITENESS PART OF EUROPEAN IDENTITY? IF NOT, WHY?
>>61961469
>Welfare is killing birthrate
We're paying people to have children here.
>>61961502
That you are wrong.
>>61961538
Rich Muslims are also retardely decadent and will spend millions of completly useless stuff.
>bought a villa for 200millions new
>never used it for 10 years
>sold it for 100million old
Shit is retarded but pure steroids for economy.
>>61961387
they dont care, its french nationalism
>>61961603
>IF NOT, WHY?
Because we are different countries that speak different language and are formed by different people of different histories ofter in war with each other?
In what form does white fit in there?
>>61961571
wow...are you like, post-culture? everyone and everything is the same? no memes, i just find the concept terrifying.
if i am straw-manning, please let me know.
>>61961603
It is a part. A big part, even. It should be preserved.
Doesn't mean we have to stay idle when children are drafted in the Eritrea military, when Syrians die by the thousands.
The obvious optimal solution is to help them on their country. But sometimes it doesn't work, so I think preventing deaths (and possible 3rd world uprising who could seriously cause us trouble) is a moral obligation.
t. muslim fuckface according to this white man (>>61961587)
>>61961701
Well...what does most of Europe look like?
>>61961796
That's for example an Albanian from Kosovo
>>61961928
A greek for example
>>61961604
Which means you have to first take that money from them, run it through the bureaucratic machine that takes about half of it to feed itself and then you give some of it back.
>>61961732
Not in the slightest. I'm saying that there is no European identity. There is Czech, Hungarian, Danish, French, German, etc. identity but if you take all of them together, you won't find anything that would connect them all.
>>61961745
>The obvious optimal solution is to help them on their country.
Exactly what we are not doing. And it's not our problem.
>>61961796
A stereotypical gay German. (he loves cock in Butt and shit)
>>61961928
Extreme example is extreme. I mean French, German, Pole, Scot, Swiss, Czech, Swede, Spain, Croat etc.
Dude, I am not white (or white passing). When I think Europe, I think White. Why do some see this as something to be fixed?
>>61962043
A czech'em person
>>61959489
>mfw my country can't do anything right
>mfw we only got 300 mudslimes
>mfw we put them in a town near this statue
>mfw they've already fucked off to france/germany/UK
>mfw they felt "unwelcome"
>mfw my country can actually do at least ONE thing right.
>>61962092
This man is a pole hahaha na not striptease hahaha
>>61962037
That's what we did in Mali, and international right is against us here.
I'm all for safe zones with food, aids and safety, with maybe visas to mainland for the most educated/motivated, in Syria, but this just can't happen.
>>61962025
Libertarian, I see. Let's just say we completely disagree on that.
>>61962161
This man's Nation won the Eurocup.
>>61962176
Yeah, cos it's none of our fucking business.
Muslims started to chimp the fuck out and shoot shit.
None of our problem. You start a war, you finish it.
but
>muh bitch feelings
QUESTION: IS PERMANENTLY CHANGING THE ETHNIC LANDSCAPE OF EUROPE GOOD, BAD, OR NEITHER? WHY?
>>61962218
This man is Italian do not confront him with mafia and pasta.
>>61961928
>>61961975
>>61962043
>>61962092
>>61962161
>>61962218
>>61962300
Um...these guys are all white, what is your point?
QUESTION: WHY DOESN'T THIRD WORLD UNTERMENSCHEN GET FUCKED AND LEAVE THE WEST ALONE? IS IT ONLY BECAUSE OF THEIR EGO, OR JUST THEIR UNWILLINGNESS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE NOT NEEDED ON THIS PLANET?
>>61962071
>Why do some see this as something to be fixed?
Because it worth then all Latinos being just called Mexicans.
Are you a Mexican?
>>61962345
arabs and africans*
>>61962414
*SUPERFLOUS PEOPLE THAT CAN EASILY BE REPLACED WHERE EVER THEY ARE ON THIS PLANET.
>>61962450
Says the one being replaced :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>61962552
By whom? I don't have a shit level job that can easily be done by the sand people.
>>61962345
>>61962364
I am obviously projecting my own racial insecurities here, and I hope I don't sound like too much of a prick. Its just I am wondering what it feels like to deny race, religion, and birthplace as an aspect of your identity. To such an extent that the face of your country is changing. Race is a huge issue here, and the more common the people, the more peaceful the country tends to be. I guess...well, I guess...
I wish I could be European too...and I am jealous that what I think is European is something Europeans don't like
>>61962597
By your own women :^)
>>61962345
Maybe because we fucked them first. Also because their countries are shit, and I don't blame them seeking a better existence, really.
>>61962283
It can't happen. Europeans are too numerous to get their demographics shifted that easily, there are more "Europeans" (if such an identity exist) than Arabs or North-Africaners and their birth rates aren't drastically different.
Assuming it happen, well nobody can tells.
>>61962270
Sorry to get emotional, but you're willing to let corpses of Syrians run aground on Mediterranean beaches ? Very few people are this edgy.
More coldly, do you want ISIS or Saudi Arabia to have a stronghold so close to us, and ready to unleash literal human waves ? Better stay in control of the situation.
It's a globalised world, we are never alone.
>>61962606
>le what leftist shout in the media is what the majority thinks meme.
Pls guatamala. Btw, I don't really care. I am an aryan but with jewish tendencies so I only care about my own wellbeing and those most dear to me. The rest can fuck off for all I care.
>>61962606
blame these apologizing cuck shits like germany, france, sweden, UK etc
>>61962689
>Maybe because we fucked them first. Also because their countries are shit, and I don't blame them seeking a better existence, really.
>Doesn't know history.
> the "I should care" meme about their better existence.
>>61962689
>Sorry to get emotional, but you're willing to let corpses of Syrians run aground on Mediterranean beaches ? Very few people are this edgy.
There would be no floating corpses if you cucks stopped the boats, killed the smugglers and nuked the shit out of isis. Instead you invited them in and rest is just damagecontrol and shitty decisions like the first one.
>>61960065
>>61962606
>Europe either needs to have more kids
I got a well paid job even by Western standards.
Believe me, I don't feel like ruining my life raising a fucking kid because of demography. Especially not because some nationalist retards tell me to.
Do I want having muslims in my neighbourhood or my country to be poor? No.
But is it worth ruining my life? Definitely not.
>>61961609
but im not lol. hungary didnt have own culture
>>61962700
I mean, Guatemala is a post-colonial banana republic, half the country is native, half mixed, and 5% is Euro. There are race issues aplenty. I even feel guilty calling myself Guatemalan when half the country does not look like me. Costa Rica is racially homogeneous and is better off than any country in CA. Surely there is some relation?
>The rest can fuck off for all I care.
You feel no patriotism at all?
>>61962606
We don't deny them. We're saying that being French is both a state of mind and an ethnicity.
Did you know, that for a while, Algeria was considered France proper ? Not even a colony, not a territory but France proper. Same thing with La Réunion, La Martinique or Les Antilles. All of them are France proper.
> the more common the people, the more peaceful the country tends to be
Most of the problems are here because blacks and Arabs are poor rather than ethnically different. France not a peaceful heaven before dem blacks and Arabs "invaded".
>I wish I could be European too.
You can.
>>61962949
>You can.
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHH HOLY FUCK EUROPE IS DOMMED
>>61962640
>The "I only fuck black guys" meme
>Don't know these are either insane leftist women or bottom of the barrel ones
>Also, Brazil. Having an opinion about being white.
Kek.
>>61962949
For blacks and Arabs it's not a matter of being poor, it's a matter of lack of any morals and love to show infidel pigs that "we brothers aren't going to respect their laws and rules"
>>61962979
Thats french ppl for you.
>>61962689
>Very few people are this edgy
Almost everyone east of Germany is.
>>61962871
Hm...Do you think most people in your position feel the same? This is a big issue. I was raised catholic and in a large family, so I have a big bias. What does it say when an entire generation with the means to have children, chooses to not do it, and to hell with the consequences?
>>61962606
Here Guatemala: >>61962700 >>61962871
This is a cultural Problem. Individualism is simply the cancer. With a different upbringing and values these people would care about more responsible thinks then just blatant selfishness.
Individualism = I am the center of my world and my well being is above everything else. Also above my nature.
>>61959612
>EITHER BRING IN LATINOS OR START BREEDING. EUROPE WILL BE NORTHERN AFRICA IN 20 YEARS
So bring in people that are brown/black and have African DNA to prevent North Africans from populating a white country?
>>61962922
I am a nativist classic liberal. I only care for things that work. My country does not, thus I do not care.
However, when I would live in a country space station or island like the movie Elysium for example, I would feel proud and would protect it, because it is in my best interest. Why? Because it benefits my loved ones and me and it would be the end of the line. The Netherlands is not the end of the line for me. I almost got my masters in Finance from a high ranking business school, got my own internet company set up and speak four languages. So, I am going to better places.
>>61959745
At least 25 years ago all those blacks were proud to be part of France and wanted to be French, they adopted it's cultre. Modern immigrants dont want to be French, they only want their rights, their race.. Applies for every W. European country.
>>61962803
Stop the boats ? To get them where ? At least when Australia did this New Zealand or other safe countries took the place.
> killed the smugglers
We should at least arrest them, true.
> nuked the shit out of isis.
A literal nuke would have been a crime against humanity and the start of a civil war in here. I could be the most cucked guy ever, even I will get angry if Poland is nuked because it was racist and refused multiculturalism. (example is shit and I know it.)
>>61962798
>doesn't know history
Colonisation was exploitation anon. And even after that, we still played the strings a lot.
>>61963084
>I am the center of my world and my well being is above everything else. Also above my nature.
Well, primitive german, we dutch people never cared anyway and we ruled the world for 150 years and are still rich. Now that the tide is slowly turning against the muslims, this time will come back.
>>61963101
OK, that one was a joke>>61962606
I was mostly upset at the laissez faire attitude towards race that I found in the thread. As someone from a country fiercely divided by racial issues, hearing people say it does not bother them, or in fact, enriches them, somewhat telling. Consider it group therapy.
>>61963221
>giving himself to the lowest of all morals
>calling me primitive
Yeah you sure will show me. Your 0 children will rule for good.
>>61963029
Oversimplification and applying memes to living beings. There are humans behind Islam.
>>61962979
I'm saying the truth. I prefer an hard-working, kind and prone to integration Guatemalan to antifa shit or white criminals.
>>61961603
We have many different ethnic identities which implie whiteness by themselves as noone ever questioned how a pole could not be pale and thats it a matter of fact that sardinians are often brownhaired.
Le black italian is only a recent idea.
Only brits activly adapted the white thing due to its utility in colonialism I think.
>>61963229
Dont believe those retards Europe is truning to shit
its not even fun
>>61963171
>Colonisation was exploitation anon
Sure, in some parts by some countries. But the overfixation of lefitst meme history on this makes it look like we raped, enslaved and sucked dry the whole of africa for thousands of years, while it was in fact just 120 approximately.
Also:
>Insert empireofdust.webm
>>61963056
It's because they are not touched by it. Same thing with the Poles who never had any connection with Africa whatsover after all, while Italy and France share an intimate history with it, after all.
>>61963288
>dont believe them believe me
>>61963318
Ive been there and the areas with le great multicult are pretty shit
>>61963229
>>61963288
Aw yes, because you obviously know it much better than us !
And we're richer and live better by almost any index, even though we're in crisis.
Lmao nationalists
>>61963171
Islam is a crime against humanity.
We wouldn't even need a nuke, just mobilize the military and fuck up the durkas.
But like i said. ITS NONE OF OUR PROBLEM m8
>Stop the boats ? To get them where ?
trolley them back to africa.
>>61963268
>Primitives projecting
Only a fool or a moron would need le rules or le Heimat meme to throw themselves on the swords of yet another cynical tyrant. You germans are so easily played. You country is not real and never has been. Please give back the Ruhr area and an hero.
>>61959489
It doesn't matter if they integrate or not.
>>61963367
they have always been shit
>>61962905
>hungary didnt have own culture
I kinda doubt that considering they even rebelled against Austrians.
>>61963370
>even though we're in crisis.
What could have made this crisis
And its not gettting better ever again
>>61963390
I doubt 10 years ago it would have thousands od africans in the streets looking for people to rob or scam
>>61963383
>projecting
I've never mentioned anything of what you tell there.
Isn't it you basically projecting?
>>61960868
We clearly do not have the same type of gypsies my dear baguette. The majority of arabs here in Barcelona are saints compared to those things.
>>61963367
You're that Brazilian who went to Paris, saw one nigger and then become as deluded as this stupid Japanese girl ?
Paris has less nigger than all of Brazil, mate. Mathemically proven by a dutch bro in another thread. Multiculti gave us Kébabs and Thaï restaurants, by the way.
>>61963291
Colonisation is almost always about exploitation and alienation of people, but I admit I look at it from a leftist point of view.
In my experience integration generally doesn't work.
Even many ex-yu people, who are culturally not too far away from us, have never really integrated into our society. I'd say half of them still live in Yugoslavia mentally. But the rest are integrating well.
With turks it's worse. I'd say less than 20% of them integrate. You will meet many 3rd generation turks who barely speak a word of German and can't tell you the names of 3 Austrian cities. No kidding.
With the arabs that are coming right now it will be hopeless to begin with. I'm willing to bet no more than 5% of them will integrate in the long run.
The decision to open the borders will have very bad consequences on our society in the long run. Maybe I should start learning Czech in case they decide to start their jihad here or something.
>>61963084
>>61963068
Yeah, most of us do.
Like the German Anon says, it's cultural and culture is barely controllable.
Is it selfish? Definitely. If it short-sighted? One could argue.
Cultures and countries permute and take each others' place since the day one. Is the future worth securing? Nobody knows. It's just a ride.
>>61963472
>Tries to argue.
>Does not know how greentexting works.
>Does not know what implicit statements are.
Jesus Abdul, stop trying and drink a good glass of bleach.
>>61963528
So you lost and repeat 5 years old memes to achieve what?
>>61963370
Again, I hope I am not too off putting. It is just in my part of the world Europe=White is not even part of the discussion. Speaking to Europeans, it sounds almost controversial. Seriously, I started this discussion with a meme, and it became me dealing with my own racial issues. Namely, that I believe race is a central part of identity, and that not every country HAS to be multicultural.
>>61963460
nah, it would be thousands of eastern europeans+arabs and gypsies
>>61963405
but it means nothing, lifestyle, architecture and everything was same across both kingdoms
>>61963379
>Islam is a crime against humanity.
Lol, I bet you also unironically believe they are fucking goats and are all paedophiles
What you're advocating for however is a crime against humanity.
>>61963594
>So you lost and repeat 5 years old memes to achieve what?
>Once again projecting.
>Still thinks he has a point.
>>61963639
I dont give a shit what they are, outside europe.
>>61963639
T.Mohammedthechildraper
Also you know that sand islamites (semites) are untermensch tier people right?
>>61963639
And theres the pedo part in quran... I bet we can find some zoofilia too.
>>61963610
Race is a central part of identity in the Americas not in Europe.
Insteed of Race people identify themselves mainly with their Nation and in this especially the language does an important part. But also the typical ethnicity plays it's role.
You don't believe but people in Europe can actually tell people from different European Nations apart.
>>61963460
>What could have made this crisis
Americans and their banks.
>>61963610
>Europe=White is not even part of the discussion
People and demographics change. A century from now, it looked like Africa was going to be a white-majority continent by the 2000's.
Europe is still very white, no need to worry about that. And you're not the first to talk about it, we've had people bitching about it since decades.
I'm a leftist and I believe the French identity is linked to whiteness, but not to the point of being an edgy "lel kill Arabs race war now xD" kid. I simply let things happen and remember that I don't have to be angry when I see an Arab in the street.
>>61963510
Mind that Europe is now becoming like USA in the terms of rich whites and poor shitskins. It'll be a show when the shitskins start to fight one another in ethnic gangs.
>>61963828
>I'm a leftist
>>61963711
>>61963770
>Interpreting the Quran litteraly
If you counted as Muslims people who have a strict interpretation of it, the number in France goes from 7,5% to less than 2%. All of them drink bear, as a simple example.
>>61963876
Nice rebuttal faglord
>>61963828
>I simply let things happen and remember that I don't have to be angry when I see an Arab in the street.
Can there be any better example of a Cuck? This is reaching meme tier levels.
>>61963933
t. leftist
>>61963901
>>61963933
t.Dilma
>>61963791
People identify with nation only in Europe, everyone says im Slovak or French or whatever nobody says im white. That said, Europeans are historically white
>>61963901
My bear drinking french dude. You underestimate those not so extreme Muslims highly.
There world of values is even in moderate and secular muslims still not in harmony with the typical western ways.
>>61963791
>>61963828
>>61963511
>>61963510
>>61963149
Just want you to know I really do appreciate the discussion, and the time it took to respond. I will be honest, I just started this conversation with a demographics meme, but it has given me food for thought as far as how people choose to identify themselves. I guess I only have one question left, and that is this: Why is the population in Europe shrinking so rapidly? Not in general, I mean personally speaking. To you. Besides that, my only issue is jealousy that Arabs were asked to immigrate before Latinos, but that is just me :)
I hope you all have a wonderful day, and please excuse my racist ass
>>61961134
this
>>61964185
Because having kids is expensive and takes lot of free time, people have ambitions and dreams, kids give big STOP to this, in poor countries family is important cause you dont have much else but when you live in ''''rich'''' country there is more to life
>>61962151
lmao portugal
>>61963901
>>61964185
Arabs are simply next to us and nobody asked them except for the French. They came by themselves.
Turks where brought here because after WW II the was a too big lack of workers in Germany and European countries alone weren't able or didn't want to give us the population boost (we got 1 million Italians, 500k Portuguese for example) so turks were taken because of US pressure mainly.
Like I said, people do not aim for families and offspring anymore because the self is more important as a value in the majority of the population. Remove Individualism and we will breed like rabbits because now my resources aren't wasted on myself but on my offspring.
>>61964185
>my only issue is jealousy that Arabs were asked to immigrate before Latinos.
This is a meme, they were never asked. They just came and fucked shit up. The only ones who made that possible are leftist land verraders.
>>61963901
It's ingrained into their culture you fucknut.
It literally is their culture.
>>61964433
Yeah well, thanks for attacking Egypt, Syria, Eastern-Rome and Visigoth Spain. Surely nice to see how Islam doesn't need violence to spread.
>>61963901
>moderate muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3e4hmxmITE
>>61964513
Are you really this stupid? The picture is sarcastic.
>>61964433
>thousands of years ago
>>61959489
I feel like I've integrated tbqh
I'm generally a pacifist agnostic who cycles a lot and enjoys the pleasures of life. I see religious zeal as idiotic and detrimental to the general well-being of any society. I've no criminal record and have no intention of starting one.
>>61963901
all of them drink beer? no
all of them smoke weed? yes
>>61964590 --- >>61964574
>>61964126
As someone who was raised by them, I call bullshit. My parents honestly don't give a shit about the world around them; live and let live is their general outlook on life.
>>61964752
Finally the angry dutch boy outed himself as a Achmed I see.
>>61964592
but do you deny that your immigrated brothers and sisters have not integrated so well?
>>61964752
t. Abdul Jafar Al-Holandi
Islam is a fucking cancer and every country that got KEBAB'D is worse now
>>61964185
>Why is the population in Europe shrinking so rapidly?
Eastern Europeans countries and poor people in general have little faith in their future and don't do children as a result, that plus an even poorer society.
>Arabs were asked to immigrate before Latinos
tbf they were never asked, it's just that the main "importers" countries (Britain and France) have a special relationship thorough colonial past.
Turks went into Germany a few decades back and the transition was also ugly but now things are seamless. I might be the only one here, but I have faith in the future.
>>61959489
>Christiantugal
>>61965030
The poorer the country, the more kids the people have you retard
>>61964875
nah, I'm a different one.
Übrigens bin ich nicht mal Muslim, ich bin Agnost.
>>61964951
Some have, some haven't, some are just edgy teens, some truly believe in all of that, etc.
>>61965005
for real man, you find it ridiculous to believe that people irl aren't the memes you thought they were and can't cope with the fact?
>>61965102
>Übrigens bin ich nicht mal Muslim, ich bin Agnost.
Das ist völlig belanglos.
Komm wieder wenn du mental voll entwickelt bist.
>>61965102
>3rd generation muslims are joining ISIS
>TOTALLY integrated islam 100% european religion bois
fuck off, muslims are literally worse than gypsies
>>61963901
>READ THE QUARAN YOU XENOPHOBE
>well yeah okay maybe it IS written in there but don't interpretate it!
>>61965087
Wrong in 1st and 2nd world. Poland has like 1,30 child per woman, same for the baltics, while France still have a strong 2 - and that's not the still minority 7,5% Muzzies pushing it forwards.
Germany is an exception with 1,3 but that might be due to small space.
>>61965203
You don't interpret holy books litteraly, and Muslims don't anyway. Most of them don't even go to the Mosquee.
>>61965191
>Alle Muslime sind Mistgeburten
>Ich bin kein Muslim
>Du bist trotzdem 'ne Mistgeburt weil einfach so
????
>>61965199
>doesn't know how to read or lacks basic comprehension skills
>thinks his opinion is unironically relevant or fails to see the irony in his own statement
lmao, is all of slovenia like this?
>>61961104
>german mentality is cancer
How so?
>>61959489
>everywhere
lmao
>>61965215
France is an exception because you have so much immigrants that fuck like rabbits.
>South Korea: 1.2
>Spain: 1.3
>Portugal: 1.2
>Austria: 1.5
>Canada :1.6
>Lichtenstein: 1.5
>Finland: 1.7
>Denmark: 1.7
>>61965215
>and that's not the still minority 7,5% Muzzies pushing it forwards.
Can you support that claim?
>>61965415
Nice (not)arguments, any place which has significant muslim population got worse directly because of those '''''''''''''people''''''''''''
>>61965415
Muslims are worse than gypsies. Their dual citizenship should be taken away and they should be deported unless they can prove they have fully assimilated and swear an oath to the nation.
t. ex-muslim
>>61960703
Are you here mate? I've been looking for you all week.
>>61959489
italy is muslim nao
>>61965215
We have no wealth, we are like Americans.
>>61965597
7.5% can't be that much significant in the total.
>>61965268
My point was that people like you say shit like "GO READ A QUARAN YOU RACIST, IT IS WRITTEN THERE THAT MUSLIMS ARE PEACFUL" and when people do read the quaran and show lines about child raping, killing non believers typical liberal response is "don't interpretate it!". It's the same with gun control, people say "why do you need a gun for self defence! Even the guy's that killed your wife and is raping your daughter! Don't you think he deserves to live! Every life is percious!" And just like with those anti gunners untill one of your loved ones or your close friends will be harmed you will not understand why people don't like and want islam in Europe.
>>61965603
>malaysia
>singapore
you do realize muslims aren't confined to the immediate middle east right?
>>61965658
meh, I think as long as there isn't a fundamental contradiction in the way they identify themselves there shouldn't be a problem. Not saying that is the case, but for a lot of people they really have no interest in any intricacies of muslim politics and religion, in my experience at least.
>>61965813
>tfw he doesn't know about Mamadou's fifteen children
>tfw he doesn't know about Djamila's thirteen kids
>tfw he only knows about Juliette and Erwan's two kids.
lamo we all now france is just 0.1% muslim stop posting made up nazi statistics, there is no islamization of france
>>61961569
Italians/Spaniards/Portuguese>European
Armenians even though asian are culturally european-like.
Muslims=/=European culture>far more difficult to integrate than those mentioned above.
You think wrong, at least I think so :)
>>61965929
You mean 66 gorillion m8
>>61966389
It will just take a little longer. People forget that Rital used to be the equivalent of shitskin, and that there were a lot of aggression and they were accused of every possible misdeed.
>>61966196
This tb'h
>>61961569
>I think that people are vastly overestimating. Remember that the number of refugees is not infinite and it functions in waves. Even the most hardcore leftists don't want people who won't integrate, by the way. France "endured" Italians, Armenians (1 million+), Portuguese, Spaniards among many other things without too much changing. We can handle a few millions Muslims. At least I think so.
I am an arab. If you think that extra-european migration and european migration are the same, especially in an era that does not require migrants to assimilate or aims to celebrate and preserve the migrant's culture, then you are a fool. Plain and simple.
>France has, unironically, never defined itself by being white. Ethnicity never posed itself as question here.
That does not mean it wasn't. Just because there is not a lot of racial awareness in France, does not mean one of its defining features isn't being white. See De Gaulle's words.
I love this country and I think immigration can be good as long as it is done in very small numbers and with serious means put to assimilate the mirgants i.e not like the past decades. I am glad to be a citizen of this country and I am a proud french. And that's why I think you are delusional. I am literally the only one in my extended family to feel one bit french and care about this country.
Wake up idiot, it isn't France if there aren't any french left.
>>61966572
it was sarcasm nigger
>>61966743
I know, I replied with a sarcasitic image nazi
>>61968061
Dont call Muhammed Nazi. Call him Mujahideen.
>>61970391
Don't tell Serkan what to do infidel!
>>61970571
Tell your white friends of German origin and christian values that they are welcome to resettle Sudetenland, shit has gone only downhill since they left and they can escape the ficki ficki hordes at the same time. Win-Win scenario.
