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So, is Catalan a language or a dialect?
>>61927841
>dialect?
yes
A language has armed forces and a fleet.
>>61927841
>dialect?
Yes.
t. Valencia
>>61927887
>>61927923
pero porqué?
>>61927841
>dialect?
yes, I am greek
Why doesn't Catalonia want to be a Spain land?
>>61928055
rednecks like bullfighting for example and in Catalonia , corridas are banned
>>61928055
Snowflake syndrome.
>>61928055
Language
>>61927841
A dialect, 100%. I'm not even that good with Spanish and I can still understand it.
>>61928230
català detectat
>>61927841
A language. It isn't even that closely related to Spanish as it is to French linguogenetically.
>>61928309
Sounds like Spanish with a slight French accent to me.
>>61928288
>>61927923
>>61927887
>>61927841
Yeah, sure, it's a dialect. An occitan one, though.
>>61927841
Language.
It's called Silesian of South. So it depends of who you ask about it (Catalonian or no-Catalonian)
FREE CATALUNYA
>>61928474
>ANGLATERRA
Hilarious, they then get mad for being called Spain.
>>61928547
true
>>61928547
what are you implying?
>>61928644
anglaterra should say reino unido
>>61928474
>>61928565
>T. butthurt Scotland
Catalan has its own ISO 639-3 Language Code, so yes.
>>61929026
who decides about such stuff? what code do we have?
brb, googlin
langauge
>>61929063
simply pl, unbelivable....
honestly I didn't know that there's a chart that solvers such disputes. Retards here still couldn't agree if Silesian is language or not
>>61928644
That they are referring to the UK as England when Scotland is not England, it's the UK, but they then get mad as being called Spain, instead of Cataluña.
>>61927841
It's a dialect of Occitan.
>>61928350
It has Spanish loanwords, so it sounds a bit like Spanish, but native Catalan vocabulary and grammar are more similar to French (most similar to Occitan) than Spanish)
>>61929236
Nah, Occitan is a dialect of Catalan
>>61927841
By definition a dialect.
Although it will be a language soon. (hopefully)
>>61929334
>By definition a dialect
what the heck are you talking about you dipshit
>>61929160
> Retards here still couldn't agree if Silesian is language or not
Same here with Low German. Some say it's just a dialect of German although it's a seperate langauge for over a thousand years.
>>61929374
so it's separate dialect for over thousand years or I missed something?
>>61929373
Geopolitics defines if something is a "language" or a "dialect".
e.g., Serbian and Croatian are basically exactly the same, but for obvious reasons they're considered separate languages. On the other hand, you have the giant mess of Chinese languages that are all completely different but all considered to be dialects of the same language for political reasons.
>>61929630
how different are the chink languages? Are they mutually intelligible?
>>61929718
>Are they mutually intelligible?
No, but they all use the same writing system so they're mutually intelligible through writing. It's a really bizarre setup, actually.
>>61929563
Low German descends from Old Saxon, High German from Old High German. They are two languages.
>>61929718
>how different are the chink languages? Are they mutually intelligible?
Not in speech, but in writing they are.
They arr sound same to us, but some varieties are completely unintelligible to others.
>>61927892
This.
>>61929563
Low German is a North Sea Germanic language and thus more closely related to English, Frisian and Scots than to High German, which is an Irmionic language.
In other words: There was a time when the ancestors of the English spoke the same language as those of the Low Germans, but the ancestors of High Germans spoke a different one.
Since then, Low German has been in close contact with High German though, while the other Ingvaeonic (North Sea Germanic) languages underwent different development. That means that there is a certain degree of mutual intellegibility between Low and High, while it was mostly lost between Low German and the Anglo-Frisian languages.
>>61929942
So you personaly think it should be called language. Why doest it even matter? Is there any profit if you have language instead of dialect? Seems so, as you ppl don't really go apeshit over meaningles stuff (that's our job)
>>61929244
Lel, it has Spanish loanwords in the same way English has Germanic loanwords.
>>61929630
Catalan is considered a language even by the spanish government and Occitan has been considered a distinct language from French and Spanish since the times of Dante, geopolitics has a little role in this case.
>>61930276
Stop this meme right now
>>61930276
What are you implying?
>>61927841
It's a dialect of aragonese
>>61930969
I see hudge neon standing "dialect of not even proper Spanish:
Honestly I shouldn't eat this much drugs in my youth
>>61927841
dialect like galician.
It is a dialect but not of spanish (castillan)
They're all dialects of Latin
>>61927841
There's literally no discussion to this. It is a language, that's it.
One could argue it's one of the dialects of the Occitan macro-language. But after all, every romance language is a dialect or variant of vulgar Latin, so it's a little bit arbitrary. I don't feel offended or anything for linking Catalan to Occitan. It's rather the opposite, it probably means that you actually know things about Catalan.
Anti-Catalan haters have said both things. They just say whatever fits their whiny spouts that particular day.
FREE CATALONIA !
Best of wishes fellow Catalonians! Soon you'll get rid of the spanish occupation :)
>>61927841
a dialect of occitan.
Occitano-Catalan union when?
>>61928055
Why would anyone?
