>Quran 36;40 It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.
>Quran 21;33 And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming.
What did they mean by this?
>>61869743
Back then people thought the sky is literally water
Mohammed was a retard
>>61869795
Correction my western friende but isn't space-time stretchable and most often compared to water?
Debateable, planets swimming around in the universe isn't that much of a crazy idea.
However the claim that the prophet split the moon in half and put it back together is pretty crazy.
>>61869873
How do you stretch water dummy? Its usually compared to sheet of rubber.
>>61869873
Stop looking for excuses sandnigger
>>61869795
>>61869873
>>61869918
Earth is flat and we never left lower earth's orbit. It's impossible. We're all in prison here on earth.
>>61869983
Whiter the you paki shit stain
>>61869743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIjNfZbUYu8
Do Americans really believe in this?
>>61869743
>>61869743
Its a book from a time when people had no idea about space. What else would you expect?
>>61870140
>>61869984
Piotr please go.
>>61870248
Tell me again. Ignore flat earth memes.
Do you really fucking believe in >>61870140
?
>>61870276
Do I believe that there is a space station with Burgers on it orbiting the Earth?
Yes. Why wouldn't I? If you've ever used a GPS navigation program then you would have to be retarded to think it's impossible to put people in orbit around the Earth.
>>61870472
I asked specifically about this video.
It's fake as fuck.
>>61870587
How?
>>61869873
Water isn't compressible/stretchable.
>>61870643
I'm interested as well.
>>61869873
I've taken a class on (special) relativity and I've never heard it compared to water and I can't really see how it makes any sense since one of the defining properties of water is being noncompressible
the rubber sheet analogy is common though
you may be confusing relativity with electricity where a (misleading) water analogy is often given
>>61869743
Maybe the word swimming should be understood as floating.
>>61869795
> back then
That's haaram and you know it. Allah will strike you down for this blasphemous statement.
>>61871270
And the correspending Arabic word means both.
>>61870087
Learn english and memes, pakis are in Britain
Jesus christ how new are you?
>>61871222
he movement of objects on a rubber sheet, pulled by gravity, is not a geodesic, and thus that analogy is also completely false.
It's just used a lot because Einstein used it, but it was a shitty analogy.
>>61870643
>>61871128
Aluminum that they use for space stations would burn. It melts in 2000 degrees.
Sun gives 3000+ degrees temperature.
There is also using water in a fucking spacecraft in the fucking space.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to buy that shit?
USA is just stripping goys form money with their space bs.
>>61871415
correct but it's a nice visualization that's easy to reproduce and give people the general idea
I don't know anyone that claims that rolling marbles on a rubber sheet is exactly the same as planets moving through sapcetime
>>61871705
You are retarded.
>>61871785
And you're American.
What's worse? Keep gulping up NASA memes, burgergoi.
>>61871754
>give people the general idea
A completely incorrect one, sure.
>>61871705
Thank you, I wanted to post pic related as a reaction image for months.
>>61871805
>he thinks LEO is 3000°C
>>61871826
the idea is that masses warp spacetime and shape the very fabric of it making objects move in what appear to be curved paths
this is sufficiently shown by the sheet
>>61871898
>>61871903
>serious discussion
>>61871986
I addressed your retarded point seriously.
LEO is not 3000°C and does not have appreciable atmosphere to result in high heat from drag.
Aluminum will not melt in LEO and wouldn't be used for fucking heat shielding on the spacecraft you fucking retard.
>>61872072
>Aluminum will not melt in LEO and wouldn't be used for fucking heat shielding on the spacecraft you fucking retard.
Then what would be used you fucking imbecile?
It's the lightest of metals.
>>61871914
>sufficiently
We've reached an impasse.
>>61872147
Things that won't melt upon atmospheric re-entry?
Are you fucking dumb? Just because aluminum is light doesn't mean that it is going to be used for purposes it isn't suitable for.
Fuck me you're retarded.
>>61872248
And you clearly know shit.
>>61872392
>The Polish Space Program
>>61871311
>Learn english and memes
Dear god do i feel sorry for your parents.Ow and btw could you please tell me what's wrong with my english you paki shit?
>>61872671
>could you please tell me what's wrong with my english you paki shit?
>>61870087
>Whiter the you paki shit stain
>wither the you
>the you
>>61872671
look here >>61872720
Also, why do you act so superior you second world loser? You don't even know basic board culture
The bantz were not handled well by you
>>61869743
If a muslim stubs his toe, the whole religion is bunk.
>>61872752
>board culture
shut up man
>>61872720
Still it wasn't was major grammatical error to validate that response
>>61872798
>russian
>culture
You are out of your element, Ivan
>>61872826
>Still it wasn't was major grammatical error to validate that response
>Still it wasn't was
>it wasn't was
and yes, it was. You misspellt then. BUT not even "then" was correct in the sentence, it was "than", thus making it one of the most stupid grammatical errors out there everyone hates
>>61872919
bullying second worlders together is fun
>>61872637
Aluminum siding and screen doors to conveniently keep space bugs away.
>>61869743
>people more than a thousand years ago didn't know how the world works
what a shocker!
>>61872919
>misspellt
Shut up.
>>61873094
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/misspelt
>>61871128
>Water isn't compressible/stretchable.
Wrong.
>>61873094
it's an acceptable americanism
I never thought a german would be my ally
>>61873148
>hurrrrr almost perfectly and perfectly are two VERY different things
Turn off your proxy, Hans.
>>61873148
Please explain
>>61869873
It was for a short period in the 19th century.
Until real astronomers and physicists finally appeared and showed everyone how stupid the ether idea was.
>>61873146
>misspellt
>misspelt
>misspellt
>misspelt
>>61873155
>it's an acceptable americanism
It's not. The American version is spelled with a D as in this sentence.
>>61873189
How about a fellow white man instead?
>>61869743
>orbit
Sounds to me more like in a space/way in Arabic then orbit.
Also Sun and the Moon are actually "swimming" and not orbiting. They are going in space on a spiral way.
The verse looks pretty logical to me. What you don't like on it?
>>61873620
They are orbiting, retard.
They are also moving.
>>61873620
>are actually "swimming" and not orbiting
>going in space on a spiral way.
Swimming has nothing to do with doing shit in spirals and you can't swim without water
so no
>mudslimes trying to defend their insane prophet's ramblings
>"b-b-b-but I can interpret this into that one line!"
>>61873590
>german
>white
lmao no, let's keep it to French/german
>>61873768
>french
>white
I have bad news for you, m8
>>61873827
nice try turk, I knew our alliance would never last
you backstabbing sandnigger
>>61873942
>I knew our alliance would never last
>backstabbing sandnigger
>lmao no
This is why france has no friends
Y'all could get laid right now but instead you chose to debate nerd shit like space exploration on a chinese image board dedicated to mongoloid throat singing. Shame on you all.
>>61873760
>you can't swim without water
>what apply to my language apply to others
Also what you translated as "orbit" means is in Arabic "folk" means space, and "falik" is astronomy is Arabic.
So if I said
>>61873661
>They are orbiting, retard.
Orbit is what you go on over and over. We forgot about the "orbiting" thing the moment we know the universe is expending. But we keep teaching the kids and Americans that since it's simpler.
You can say "it's orbiting for me since I'm moving on a spiral way too", but the universe isn't about you.
>>61874057
fuck off tira
>>61873760
>"b-b-b-but I can interpret this into that one line!"
isnt what all abrahamic religions do? noah's arc, the plagues of egypt many other bits are batshit insane and anti-science, the whole creationism thing is silly, why is it suddenly such an issue when arabs are doing it?
he who lives in glass houses etc. etc.
>>61874081
>b-b-but
no buts, sandnigger, your religion is silly and so are you
>>61874099
>he who lives in glass houses etc. etc.
>he
Did you see me doing it with the bible?
Do you see it as a widespread thing among christians?
Maybe in russia, but the vatican agrees that the theory of evolution is probably right and that you shouldn't take the bible literally
>>61873974
hihihihi plot twist I was not the one you were talking to hahahahaha I got you !
>>61874159
perhaps, I wasn't really defending anything, I just have nothing better to do
>>61874117
>I have no argument, take my "hur durr"
>>61874197
Your flag is shitty.
>itt: smug idiots who can't read anything poetically and need everything spelled out for them
>>61874172
>>61874161
Your lives sound incredibly depressing
>>61874197
>arguing with shitskins
Why the fuck would I?
You always go back to
>those aren't real muslims
>that's not the right interpretation
>blablabla
You're mindless fucktards from shit-countries with shitty cultures
>>61874161
>>61874226
further plot twist, I am the one the german was talking to, and I'm not actually a frenchman, thus his statement about France having no friends because of their attitude stands correct
>>61874081
Orbiting does not preclude something from any other movement. It doesn't have to be sitting still.
Learn what words mean before you use them.
all abrhamic religions are retarded.
I'm all for bashing islam but when it's another deus vult nigger behind the post it really makes you think
>>61874312
Nobody cares
that has never been the topic here
Look Ivan, I know you're bored, just play some dota
You guys are all wrong. The quran is always right. Google for more proof from the quran.
>>61871705
>Aluminum
End yourself
>>61874226
This is a no bully board, if you still want to bully i will have to ask you to leave.
>>61874226
>Your lives sound incredibly depressing
I am posting on an imageboard on saturday, of course my life is depressing
>>61874290
Google is your friend my burger...
>(of a celestial object or spacecraft) move in orbit **around** (a star, planet, or moon).
>fly or **move around** in a circle.
>>61869795
>implying christfags were better
t. Gallileo
>>61874277
HAHA !
my plot twist countered your plot twist, for I am actually a Greek !
thus I agree with both of you
>>61874416
Lol me too. But that doesnt mean our lives are depressing because i am about to buy ice cream with my mom and then i will play witcher 3 :)
>>61874447
Did christians build a religion around the tenet that whatever is in some book will always be valid?
I don't fucking think so, morrocan french-anon
>>61869918
Mohammed did that? Are you sure youre not thinking of the Akira manga?
>>61873267
Water can infact be "compressed" (it transforms into vapour due to heat caused by energy), it's just that it does the job very poorly. Oil and other composite are much better.
>>61874492
Of course Muhammad did that. The americans even found the lines of the split on the moon but hid it from everyone else.
>>61874426
Where in that definition does say that an object MUST be stationary EXCEPT for its angular movement?
It doesn't. An object can be moving as well as orbiting something.
>>61874483
Yes
They killed Cathars, Gallilée and other countless poor beings just for that
Religion applied to politics always end up badly
The problem is that christianity is now apolitical and progressive/open to reform (after bloody wars of religions), while Islam follows the inverse trends in many Muslims countries (though reformators exists, look at sweet Tunisia)
Ps : French Moroccans are very rare, Algie works usually better
>>61869918
Yes, almost like a certain guy walking on water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J7O5BGqPDk
>>61874599
>Yes
No
No line says that whatever the bible says is to be taken literally and always valid you retard
Learn to read, sandnigger
>>61874540
I'm crazy to try to debate a burger... yeah orbiting is a Chinese conspiracy you are right.
>>61874447
europeans have known the earth was round for millenia, flat earth is a meme
muslims also knew it because they had loads of greek texts
>>61874447
It wasn't so much Christfags but rather the science that Christfags supported. For example the Catholic church was highly supportive of the theory of the "primordial atom" an early Big Bang concept because it was in line with the idea of there being a beginning, thus "creation". t. Monseigneur Georges Lemaître
The idea that the cosmos didn't revolve around the Earth was a hard concept to take as it implied that the creation that humans inhibit was "lesser".
>>61874683
I'm literally just telling you that objects can orbit as well as move in a straight line.
It is the combination of these two things that produces your "spirals."
>>61874658
>No line says that whatever the bible says is to be taken literally
Filthy heretic. A few centuries ago, you would have burn for that.
And no verses says the Quran is to be taken literally either, both are "divinely inspired". The Bible is the Saint Spirit (basically God lmao) dictating the Gospels, the Quran is Allah (basically God in Arabic) dictating the verses.
>>61870087
brate <3333
Critise the Quran all you like, I don't care if its violent or not, it's better than Semitic budism also known as christianity
if everyone turned the cheek, world would need no cheeks to turn
>>61874801
>Filthy heretic. A few centuries ago, you would have burn for that.
Incorrect, there were plenty of guys who've been saying that for hundreds of years
> both are "divinely inspired". T
The quran is directly dictated by god, no book in the bible is directly dictated by any angel or god
Seriously educate yourself you retard, you're one of those guys who thinks that burned witches were common and always a thing, aren't you?
>>61874727
Flat Earth is indeed a meme.
The Earth not being the centre of the Universe, the Earth rotating on itself and around the sun was a proof that God didn't place us at the very centre. That was what heretic.
>>61874778
Exactly. Plus Gallilee was trying to take a bit of liberty with the Scriptures, trying to interpret things rather than taking them literally. Like Buffoon, he was a devout Catholic ostracised by its own faith.
I find it hilarious how people criticise the Quran (rightfully so) for its absurdity while forgetting that Christian autism (among other things) caused a war that took in relative value more people than WW1.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War
>>61874883
The Bible is literally the Word of God, the apostoples who wrote it were told by God what to write
>>61874883
>Incorrect, there were plenty of guys who've been saying that for hundreds of years
Like Galilee (burned), Protestants (burned and warred), Buffoon (menaced of excommunication)...
Autodafés weren't a meme, you know.
>The quran is directly dictated by god, no book in the bible is directly dictated by any angel or god
Know what you're talking about. The Gospel are written by Apostles literally "possessed" by the Saint Spirit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_inspiration
The "word of God", Protestants clinging like fools to KJ Bible, all of this is proof that you don't know your subject. At all.
>>61874934
30 years war was more about sovereignty and representation of the people. It could've broken out because some royal disagreed with wearing a hat and someone being like I want to wear a hat and then a bunch of hat wearers come in because they're up for kicking some non-hat wearing ass.
I mean the fugging Ottomans sided with the Catholics in that war and the only reason is because it was beneficial to them just like everyone else who popped in.
>>61875166
it might have been more a war of sovereignty but it still was a pretext to burn heretics&the bunch
>>61874980
>The Bible is literally the Word of God, the apostoples who wrote it were told by God what to write
Incorrect, retard.
>>61875067
Yep, there are also people who weren't burned, that shit usually happened due to politics, especially since many of the most important scientists were part of the clergy
> The Gospel are written by Apostles literally "possessed" by the Saint Spirit.
And yet they aren't to be taken literally, as that would be quite impossible because they contradict each other.
The bible was written by humans, not by god and it is never stated otherwise.
>>61870174
>columbus discovered the earth was round
stopped reading right there
>>61875067
>Biblical inspiration is the doctrine in Christian theology that the authors and editors of the Bible were led or influenced by God with the result that their writings may be designated in some sense the word of God.[1]
>led or influenced
>dictated
Learn to read, nigger
>ultra-Protestants believe the Bible to be perfectly written, and maintained in its perfection, by God
Hmmm I wonder who gave them this idea.
>>61875559
>>61875440
>Muslims believe the Quran was verbally revealed by God to Muhammad through the angel Gabriel
>The Second Epistle of Peter claims that "no prophecy of Scripture ... was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit"
>Many Christians cite 2 Timothy 3:16-17 as evidence that "all scripture is breathed out by God and profitable ..."
The Quran is also a big contradictory mess in itself, notably about the "people of the book".
Nothing else than geopolitics makes Islam "different."
>>61875739
Note how the shit you quote rings very differently in latin and that nobody, ever, believed that
On the other hand, muslims always and will always believe in their literal interpretation of the bullshit they have in their book
You're saying
>"hurr durr but look here"
But
reality
does
not
reflect
that
>>61874312
>deus vult
>nigger
choose one and only one
>>61875440
>that shit usually happened due to politics
Politics are the reason behind terrorism. ISIS wants to create an "Oumma", nation of Islam on the world. It is as much religion as it is politics.
One could argue that religion and politics are not separable in Islam, however. Yet the same was true of Catholicism, where Kings were here by the will of God.
>>61874934
>autism
Nope, they were neurotypicals
>>61871705
Polish intellectual
>>61875845
deus vult nigger spotted
>>61875912
>Politics are the reason behind terrorism. ISIS wants to create an "Oumma", nation of Islam on the world. It is as much religion as it is politics.
If that were the case there'd be islamic countries where that shit isn't the case
But there are none
Whenever there's a majority of muslims in a country that country goes to shit
>>61875844
>muslims always and will always believe in their literal interpretation of the bullshit they have in their book
Looks like we have a medium who knows the intime conviction of every Muslim of the planet :)
>Note how the shit you quote rings very differently in latin and that nobody, ever, believed that
>latin
The Bible was written in Greek/Hebrew you quintuple nigger
>nobody, ever, believed that
What are exegeses ? If it's written in wikipedia, sourced, someone influent believed that. And as a gift :
>A 2011 Gallup survey reports, "A 49% plurality of Americans say the Bible is the inspired word of God but that it should not be taken literally, consistently the most common view in Gallup's nearly 40-year history of this question."[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_inspiration#Views
Even in the current year, people take the Bible litteraly.
You have no idea what you're talking about, mate. Or you're baiting.
>>61875845
Blacks are much more Christians than Whites.
>>61876026
>russian
>nigger
>implying
You're not even white
>>61876077
>What is Tunisia
>What is Albania (where they drink wine while being Muzzies btw)
>What is Bosnia
Please, stop posting.
>>61876102
>Looks like we have a medium who knows the intime conviction of every Muslim of the planet :)
Of the large majority in every muslim country, yes
The silent minority doesn't count and has never achieved anything
>The Bible was written in Greek/Hebrew you quintuple nigger
That doesn't change what I wrote, does it?
It was translated from Greek and Hebrew (and some other languages actually) to latin and then from latin into other languages
>Even in the current year, people take the Bible litteraly.
They don't you retard, they say that, sure, but they really do not fucking care
On the other hand in islamic states people DO care and kill people for it
That does not happen in america, especially not widespread
>>61876191
>Please, stop posting.
All of those countries suck ass you retard
>>61876191
>let me show you some great islamic countries like tunisia, albania or bosnia
kek
>>61873055
Are you saying GOD didn't know how the world worked? Don't you realize you're blaspheming the entire religion of Islam, anon?
>Bedouins crossing the desert saw the sky above them as being a big ocean
that is romantic and qt
means this god is selfish and do not deserve worship
>>61876217
Tunisia doesn't suck ass, by far.
>They don't you retard, they say that, sure, but they really do not fucking care
Is this real life ? I can say that many Muzzies say they support terrorists/Sharia/etc, sure, but they really do not fucking care
How stupid do I sound ?
>That doesn't change what I wrote, does it?
It shows you don't know the subject very well. Also, these translations are validated by various experts and linguists. If you want to disprove them, then allow the same benefit of doubt of the Quran, unless you speak fluent Arabic.
Which might be the case, since you know all the thoughts of all Muslims of the world.
>>61876272
Still very liveable, human rights, countries with a great potential.
>>61876401
>Tunisia doesn't suck ass, by far.
Hello tunisian anon
>How stupid do I sound ?
You sound very stupid, because you think americans saying "yeah sure take the bible serious" is the same as an entire culture which agrees with stoning people to death for adultery
>It shows you don't know the subject very well.
I could say the same about you for only mentioning greek and hebrew, but contrary to you I'm not a nitpicky cunt who tries to establish some kind of bullshit about the other guy to feel like he's right
>Also, these translations are validated by various experts and linguists. If you want to disprove them, then allow the same benefit of doubt of the Quran, unless you speak fluent Arabic.
Once again
Do people take that serious in the real world?
No.
>>61876462
Fuck off back to tunisia then
>>61876520
Hello, Mr out of arguments.
>stoning people to death for adultery
Which is why it's illegal in many Muslims countries ???
I literally applied your argument (Na, Americunts lie to stats collectors) to mine (Na, Muzzies lie to stats collectors) and you said it was bad. So your own argument was bad.
>Do people take that serious in the real world?
Americans do.
http://www.chick.com/
And Christians used to not so long ago.
>>61876692
>Hello, Mr out of arguments.
>out of arguments
Your entire argumentation is
>hurr durr christianity is just as bad
when reality alone proves you wrong
>Which is why it's illegal in many Muslims countries ???
Yes thanks to the retarded religion, great
>I literally applied your argument (Na, Americunts lie to stats collectors) to mine (Na, Muzzies lie to stats collectors) and you said it was bad. So your own argument was bad.
That was not my argument you illiterate piece of shit
What I said was that even if americans take that shit serious, the kind of retarded bullshit that happens due to islam doesn't happen in america due to christianity
Of course you and I both know that they do not take it seriously since they would live very differently then, like the retarded muslims in their shitholes, but even if I give you the benefit of the doubt and say they do then all it shows is that christianity is so much superior compared to islam that even the fundamentalists are way more civilized than the best muslims
>Americans do.
none of the americans live that way, so no they don't, meanwhile muslims do live that way so yes they do
>And Christians used to not so long ago.
Wrong.
Even during medieval times most christian countries were not even nearly as fundamentalist as islamic countries are now
>>61876840
Ok, so you decided you were right and not even listen to my arguments (or basic history) any more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
Those fine fellows were killed by the hundred due to religion. Burning peope is a Christian practise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft#Hebrew_Bible). Christianity is used widely to justify homophobia, anti-birth control, and other shit, in America and everywhere in the world.
Christianity now is not as bad, but mainly because our countries are richer and more developed.
Once again, nothing makes Islam "different" in essence from Christianity or other shit. It's simply that history makes Christianity undergo reforms earlier than Islam.
>>61877179
>Ok, so you decided you were right and not even listen to my arguments (or basic history) any more.
Well, if you say so you probably didn't read what I wrote properly yet again, so I'll just not read the rest of your post and say
Yes, islam sucks, it's cancer, islamic countries are shitholes and the religion is infinitely inferior to pretty much any other religion
Have a nice day
>>61870174
The Earth isn't egg shaped. It's very slightly elliptic.
>>61874081
>You can say "it's orbiting for me since I'm moving on a spiral way too", but the universe isn't about you.
There is no universal reference frame. It is as accurate to say the Earth is the center of the universe as it is to claim any other point. All motion is relative.
>>61874447
The Church's problem with Galileo wasn't heliocentrism.
It was how they'd hired him to write a book fully explaining BOTH heliocentrism and geocentrism as they were understood in the day, since there was at the time an ongoing debate on the subject, but instead he wrote a book where a smug heliocentrist showed up a retard geocentrist with no real comeback, then talked shit about the Pope for expecting him to give his opponent's position even the slightest consideration.
If you call your boss a dipshit in a book he hired you to write, you're fucking asking for it.
oh boy can we get back to international culture?
isn't there a board to contain this religious cancer?
>>61875067
Holy fuck, Galileo wasn't burned, he died from old age. Where do people find this sort of bullshit info?
misunderstanding of the hebrew word raqia (or the word commonly though to be raqia) which was then latinified, transmitted to mohammed through his 'companion' sent by the pope. case closed
see hebrew scholarship for more
Is it true that Muhammed rode on a flying donkey?
