Look at this Japanese castle.
Why can't European castles look this good?
I built one on the /int/ minecraft server that was more impressing.
>>61815725
what the fuck are you talking about
>>61815812
Do people still play on the /int/ minecraft server?
>>61815864
don't know, I played like 5 months ago with a couple of friends.
>>61815725
Are you asking why they build them like that?
>>61815826
Japanese one looks better
wow it looks almost just like that castle map on cod 5
>>61816066
fuck off weeb
>>61815725
Because they had to withstand sieges which included siege weapons. No reason to make the castles all nice and pretty when a trebuchet shot could wreck it all.
That's castles though, palaces and seats of government are a whole different story.
Lol no
>>61815725
Our castles aren't folded often enough
due to climate, earthquakes and resources
>>61815725
>>61816066
t. Davido-kun
>>61816477
t.zhou xing qu
>>61816583
t. kim puk lee
>>61815725
The continent of Europe has torn itself apart many times through many wars
>>61816676
t. Nergui Khan
>>61816920
George.D.Takei
castle rank
Germany>>Japan,France>other
>>61815725
Because we didn't use swords or wooden hammers to break down and attack castles, we invented siege engines and complex machinery for the sole purpose of destroying walls and buildings. Which is why we built fortified walls, several rings of them, added further defensive mechanisms and traps, etc. You can't really make a castle pretty when it's built that way, especially when you expect it ti be at least partially destroyed several times. European castles are function over form.
>>61817367
japanese castles were multilayered and functional with redundent walls too, with overlapping tiered compounds but majority were dismantled or bombed and were not rebuilt to save room
Japanese way of war was pretty dumb. They barely fought sieges and even organized mass-battles with formations and such.
And you see it by their castles. They were dumb as hell as well.
In terms of ingenuity and actual useage of castles and fortifications;
European, Islamic, Chinese >> *shit >> Japanese >>>>> "American"
>>61817532
>"American"
wut
Pre-20th century everything was either built by or copied from European design.
>>61815725
When will you understand Japanese castles are not just those "castle" parts of them but conceptually include the whole city and were built to be a well designed fortress where a palace, a complex labyrinth and the great wall of China are packaged in one city, unlike stupid ass Western castles that are just fucking useless monolithic piles of stones and bricks standing alone in the middle of a field?
>>61815725
thai temples are better than those 2bh desuyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
>>61819419
so it's a normal castle?
>>61819500
Pretty much, though the fortification systems were more elaborate. What you see today is just the keep, and the style used only came about at the end of internal conflict in the country.
>>61819419
you on the left
>>61819419
Plenty of Western castles follow that same design, for example Edinburgh
>chinks and nips think they can compare to the insane amount of castles and fortresses built in Europe, or European war in general
>b-b-b-but muh city-fortress
Pure number of castles and experience in siege warfare puts Europe way ahead. Nothing was as fortified as Europe, conquering it totally would have been impossible at any point in post-roman history, unlike china or japan.
Besides, European star forts are by far the most powerful and well built pre-modern fortifications.
Do you love Japan
>>61820087
sure do mr proxy
>>61819949
This. Star Forts with all the bastions and ramparts were basically the state of the art of fortrification untill the napoleonic wars brought improved artillery. And even afterwards they were pretty usefull untill aircraft were introduced in warfare.
>>61815725
Say what?
>>61815725
art
>>61820640
lego
>>61820700
here's some are for you
>>61820640
The old-time castle is pretty ugly, but a proper comparison would only use things constructed from the late 16th century anyway, so this should really just be a decorative castle thread.
>>61821008
I don't think I understand you
so you're saying that this is an ugly building?
I'm sure European castles just look boring to us because we're so used to them. The Asian ones look exotic to us, but if we were aliens, coming to earth for the first time, I'm sure the European ones would seem pretty exciting, as well.
>>61816304
Mt Saint-Michel isn't a castle
>>61815725
Are the gook castles for religion or defense?
>>61821406
I find European castles much more interesting, they're so much more varied compared to Japanese and Chinese constructions
>>61821350
The restored medieval part of it is, yes. The main bit is considerably nicer.
>>61821495
Well. I like both.
How can you guy compare european castles with japanese ones. Most of the european ones are jewel castles builded to be prety. Check of spanish casttles... Japs closed their country because they feared europ ffs
This is the Osaka Castle now.
It was wider than today's size in the 16th century.
>>61821495
They both have their charm, europeans ones are more practical, asian ones are more detailed
>>61821544
well, the Turks weren't too kind with the castle during their 150 years of occupying it...
>>61821569
Almost all existing Japanese castles are Azuchi-Momoyama type castles, which are also basically status symbols with some military trappings. They took warfare into consideration but weren't really about serious use as defensive positions.
>>61819419
Here we had to actually withstand a lot of grim sieges.
I live in a region with one of the biggest amount of castles per sq km in Europe and despite that I like the Japanese ones(they seem cool) I prefer European and especially my local ones.
pic related, feels good to live in Warmia
>>61822590
The one in my city:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lYFoWSSV3E
Sadly there's a lot of work going on for a few years around hte castle, i nthe center and all over the city so it spoils the views a bit but the video is quite good anyway.
>>61821447
Defense against people who never had cannon.
>>61821573
That's a pretty nice moat.
>>61822447
>>61819419
Same here btw, entire cities were fortified
In fact to this day Paris highways' exits still use the historical words and places like "Gate of Bagnolet" and "Gate of Clichy" to designate routes out of the city
>>61823417
better view
>>61815826
>castles
>posts Neuschwanstein
it was never meant to be a fortress you tool, main inspiration for its construction were Wagner operas
>>61815725
Because European castles had to stand up to siege weaponry.
![RBL_20_pounder_Armstrong_field_gun[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CDM37K7.jpg "RBL_20_pounder_Armstrong_field_gun[1].jpg")
Shogun 2 taught me that fixed fortifications are laughably mediocre when the attacker has a bunch of pic relateds.
And that's not even counting the much, much, MUCH bigger versions actually made for killing buildings.
Last year, I went to Matsumoto Castle.
>>61816385
underrated
>>61823615
While the original castle is medieval, all the pretty details were added to make it more romantic.
step aside plebs, best castle coming through
>>61823704
Thats how it looked before being "restored".
![castle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QdzXzIw.jpg "castle[1].jpg")
Superior American castle.
>>61823845
That picture's old. They added a bunch of shit to it.
>>61823845
It looks like it's made of lego.
More culture, less pop culture, my friend.
Do you hate Japanese castle
>>61823915
Disney World is high culture if you go to Epcot.
>>61823929
Hello dirty japan
>Do you hate Japanese castle
no, i just think,like japan penis, its INFERIOR to BIG european castle. (yes i know pic related is in syria)
>>61823929
No.
They're really fun to burn down.
>>61823979
You're just butthurt they don't have Poolan at Epcot.
>>61823993
BIG
>>61824150
European
>>61824261
(but Polish)
>>61824298
CASTLES
>>61823979
What? You think people got to Epcot for rides?
Fuck no, you only go into Epcot to drink a beer from every continent and leave with blistered feet, mild dehydration, and cheap tchotchkes you could've bought online for half the price.
>>61824559
When I was in US I went for a ride in a old train than I saw some "old buildings" that aren't considered old here, a tiny waterfall and was told that if you put more cheese into a burger it becomes a different dish.
>>61823417
Same here. The "Ring" or Ringstraße is where the old fortification was, it was then turned into a boulevard.
Serveral places are named after the parts of the fortification, like the Schottentor.
>>61825217
Most of the regional capitals that are now, probably, still among the largest cities in their countries were walled, some had keeps as well.
>>61825298
City walls are super comfy.
>>61823738
For real?
>>61825506
I agree
>>61825506
Buildings "grew into" the walls with time, which looks kinda cool.
>>61825547
Cosy :3
>>61825735
I feel kinda sorry for people who can't experience this feel of cosiness.
looks like shit but have this one. it used to be glorious before it was destroyed and before the damn commies used modern bricks to restore half of it
this one is smaller and somewhat cute. i think its the best preserved one here
"Castillo de San Felipe"
Closest thing we have to a castle here.
>>61825966
Thank you Spanish conquistadores.
>>61826021
so fucking cute :3
>>61825852
shame, had to be goat
>>61821552
So beautiful
>>61826073
Do you still have a fuckton of those teutonic knight Zwingburgen in red brick?
>>61826218
Yes, part of Pomerania has some, part of Kujavia and every city, town and shithole in Warmia-Masuaria has one.
Although some were build by the Warmian Dutchy.
There's also a lot of Keep-churches/monasteries that are goat as well.
There was no point in making in very pretty, considering that Belgrade was razed nearly 40 times.
>>61817249
Where is Poland?
Hiroshima castle
>>61826480
No one knows about our castles :(
>>61821008
Isn't this castle a replica?
>>61821432
Monastery but close enough though
>>61826434
You can say about them what you want, but they ran a tight ship in administration, policing/slaughtering and road and keep building.
>>61826632
Why, I know the Marienburg.
Thank you very much.
![4050[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qcu8mju.jpg "4050[1].jpg")
Bring it on, pakeha scum
>Maori invented trench warfare
>>61826676
No one says anything here, it's history and when you visit a old Teuton castle you can read about it, what did they do, how, what was used for what purpose, no butthurt. We spend a lot of money on them so it kinda shows we aren't the ones to destroy what was build before.
Asia getting BTFO in this thread
>>61826700
Bought it fair and square for 660kg of gold from the Czechs.
>>61826734
Luckily we neither, aswe have nothing to do with any kind of Nazism or Communism at all.
>No no.
The russians let theirs rot in Königsberg because every castla with a minor chapel...so everything basically.went to the orthodox churchwho do nothing with it.
They dont even sell it to germans who would buy it.
A cute
>>61826795
:^)
>>61826790
Funny fact.
The biggest castle in Asia is Mehrangarh in India.
It's still nearly 2 times smaller than Malbork/Marienburg castle though, which is the biggest in the world.
>>61815725
wew
>>61826864
This is the castle.
Seeing it you can imagine how big Malbork is.
>>61815864
Yes but I wish I didn't.
>>61815725
>castle
This is not a castle you dumbass.
A castle is supposed to be a fortification strong enough to survive siege weapons fire and be easy to defend against ground assault.
This joke you posted will get obliterated in seconds.
>no guard towers
>no tar tunnels
>no areas to funnel your enemy in case a wall falls down
>>61826827
Well everything is basically dead in what was the Koningsberg/Królewiec area, even the cute red brick churches and houses.
They just decimated the place and what survived was left to rot. Kinda shows who russians really are.
>>61819419
Western castles do the same. but in most city these fortification were destroyed after they became useless due to new technology.
>>61826931
Odd though, because it doesn't seem as big in photos. Still though, fucking Teutonic Knights. How can they make such a huge structure dedicated to warfare yet still get their arses handed to them so much?
>>61823995
Easily the most aesthetic one ITT.
How can other cunts even compete with Italy's architectural wonders?
>>61827121
Castel del Monte
>>61827121
>>61827072
Well they relied on mercs a lot and the locals weren't happy with their rule (for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizard_Union_(medieval) ) due to high taxes and very strong rule.
During the siege Teuton traitours opened a window and waved a red flag for Polish cannons to shoot in a huge bearing bar of the castle. It missed 6cm and part of it is still inside the building to show.
Didn't the nips only use siege weaponry (cannons specifically) in one fucking siege during their castle building period? And it was the very last siege/battle of the warring states period.
>>61827251
Meme castle desu
>>61827282
They sound like dickheads desu.
>>61825852
It is a miracle we have any castles left if you consider that the Turks destroyed them multiple times.You should see what number they did on Constantinople.There is barely anything left of a city that was once Rome tier.
Turks are like a locus swarm.
And since we were rebelling a lot more than the Greeks we had all out stuff destroyed.
Coca, Segovia.
>>61827365
Polish Prussia and than Dutchy of Prussia was goat though. They had the biggest amount of published manuscripts/books in the Polish language of all PLC and Polish Prussians and Polish Courlanders were faithful and tough citizens of PLC.
This is actually Japanese related.
>>61827232
>>61827251
Based Friedrich.
>>61827072
They were pretty hard cunts, but like the poles said they had to rely on mercs due to small numbers and not being able to rely on the opressed populace.
>>61827764
>Podlasie
>Mazovia
>Subcarpatia
kek
>>61817847
Pretty sure he is talking about White Castle. Couldn't hold 15 minutes against a horde of burger-starved landwhales stampeding towards the counter
>>61828088
nie buduje się zamków w srodku kraju
>>61828207
pałacy też nie :^)
Half of these are fucking palaces.
Step it up your fortification game plebs.
![Lusos-ao-Caminho-Marv%C3%A3o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NY8SpLj.jpg "Lusos-ao-Caminho-Marv%C3%A3o[1].jpg")
NEVER CONQUERED
>>61828390
Ok.
>>61828599
My man.
>>61828390
>"Step it up"
>Posts a ruin
>>61828390
>Step it up your fortification game plebs
>posts an unrecognizable demolished piece of shit which clearly didn't pass that test
lmao.
>>61828747
Just a proof that it has served it's purpose. Besides, a fortress isn't all about the walls, but also it's location.
>>61828788
>Just a proof that it has served it's purpose
Not wrong
>>61828788
>Just a proof that it has served it's purpose
Or failed.
>>61828390
The walls and some turrets aren't fully rebuild
2 x walls + moat + a keep.
>>61829023
I was there, in Carcassonne as well.
I also remember going to some castle/town, in France, on a island that was sometimes unreachable.
>>61815864
They do
>fuck Japan
>>61817532
>American Castles
>Bad
We're following your lead, Hanz.
>>61829092
Well there's the Mont Saint-Michel >>61816304
Actually a fortified abbey
>>61829184
looks like commieblock
>>61829208
France mentionned
That whole town is beautiful
>>61829129
Yeah, that's it.
I really liked it. Had to wait for few hours until the water dissapears so I ate a lot at a restaurant and drank beer.
We have abbey keeps as well, like Frombork. Sea on one side, a small hill and a lot of walls on the other.
not a castle, but still
>>61829278
Noice, looks pretty good
The British too have a Mont Saint-Michel on an island, Saint Micheal's Mount
Less impressive imo but pretty nice
>>61829530
Been there, pic related
>>61829443
I was in Angers as well. They weren't used to tourists there but I stopped while sightseeing in the direction of the sea(literally rented a car, drove it north and stopped at every interesting place or in hotels).
>>61829660
>They weren't used to tourists there
Really ? As far as I know it's quite touristy at least among French people, don't know about foreigners
Sounds like you went in a lot of different places of the country
Never been to Poland myself yet, my sister have and fucking loved it tho
>>61829814
It was nearly empty with just small groups of people wandering around.
Mind you it was saturday during vacation.
Poland is ok, but you need to plan it because some places are overrated and some underrated. Also places like Gdańsk are swarmed at some moments to the point when you barely can move in the old town.
In France I drove down the loire. Was fun.
>>61815725
That castlet looks gay.
>>61830184
She's going again in a few weeks, to Wrocław and Gdańsk and random places in the countryside
The Loire is made for palaces and rich royal towns roadtrips
>>61830377
Both of those cities are fine, and both have some castles and palaces around so they're good spots.
Now that I see your map I can tell I visited Chaumont, Le Mans as well, and some disney-tier castle.
>>61816066
Thank you, senpai.
but ... we are behind you.
Where's Transylvania? Where's Van Helsing?
>>61830331
Kumamoto castle is less gay.
>>61831200
Basically a walled residence?
>>61831200
RIP ;_;
heavily damaged by earthquake in April
Actually my country does not have much left the castle.
>>61832428
neat
It's not particually grand, but it was in use as a castle for almost 500 years non stop.
Wasn't until the mid 50's it was shut down.
>a weeb makes a dumb threaed
>Mr. westerners begin circle jerking insisting how superior they are to us
as always on /int/
cringe as fuck, just leave us alone pls
my island does not really have castles
peace, yo
>>61815725
I always felt like it would be piss-easy to invade one of those compared to a european castle. Isn't like 1/4 of it made out of wood?
>>61832801
We literally are superior. Without our contributions to science, technology, engineering and math you'd still be getting your water from the local well and crying when raijin summons "loud-clappers".
>>61831855
It's an old-fashioned, Culverin era fortress.
>>61815725
Japanese "castles" don't look like they'd stand up to European siege equipment.
>>61832867
Don't worry :-( We can build one for you...
>>61832801
Let us masturbate over our architecture as we please, this reaction is natural to the european psyche. It distracts from our actual problems.
>>61834342
>castle
>making a little fire
>no castle left
Good defence.
>>61833174
>"We", which means whole Western populations over one billion as of today
>And if only one-tenth of them cannot overwhelm them, it sucks
It's extremely unfair to compare a tiny island country with whole people of a race.
Also, your idea that Japan has not contributed to any science nor technology obviously shows that you are a fucking dumb who knows nothing about modern science and technology.
Well, at least I have to admit that if it weren't for your PRETTY MUCH contribution to the gun technology you couldn't enjoy the splendid getting-shot culture in your superior country :*)
>>61834342
Yeah, it's okay unless you irrationally insult us.
Actually I find European castles really cool.
>pick random anime
>all the castles in a fictional fantasy kingdom have European architecture
Point made.
>>61816066
>Wish me luck in Japan!
>t. Ken-sama
>>61834473
Dirty excuse yellow monkey, the dutch only have 17 million people to your 127 million """people"""" yet our contributions to arts and sciences are at worst equal. stop coming up with excuses inferior monkey.
>>61834578
> irrationally
all insults to yellow dog is rational
>>61834342
>>61834426
btw the """castle""" in the pic rel is NOT a castle, but a fucking huge TEMPLE.
>>61819419
You should get back from Japan Kenny, your mum misses you.
>His city doesn't have a castle
Truly a shame
>>61822590
>>61821350
>>61820798
It appears that European tend to confuse castle with court or palace.
the former one is fully equipped to guard loyals and his clan from the firearm and intrusion of warriors into there in the battle.
on the other hand, the later one, which are mostly seen in Europa and most of you treat as "castle", is just the luxurious nest for the lazy aristocrats having lived there as white pig.
>>61834738
still mad at the ""betrayal"" in WW2?
how cringy, your persistent usage of those old slurs apparently indicates who actually has a monkey-tier rotten brain.
>>61834844
Post castle pics, you proxybutthurt.
>>61835139
I think there are hardcore castle-fags all over the world. They would be literally autists.
>>61826850
didn't I defend this in Stronghold?
>>61817532
>Shitting on American Civil War fortresses
Are you retarded?
>>61834606
The pineapple has a good point there
Best one
>>61834952
Stop taking the bait. Obvious troll is obvious. I've never heard anyone here refer to Japanese people as monkeys. And both countries have contributed to science. Now post some more castles and temples.
>>61834738
>>this looser pig lol
>>61834844
Sorry Japanese friend but there's a keep with an additional moat. behind the walls and palace.
