>""""""""""""""""western"""""""""""" """"""""Poland""""""""""
>>61784892
you are too dumb to even proxy
pretty sad familias for the Germans and Poles
>>61786158
yes
>>61786325
Beck should have allied with the Germans desu.
>>61786426
not even alled, all he had to do is just give Germans guarantee that we won't let Soviets through when Hitler goes to France.
But Beck trusted the Anglo jew instead and everyone paid the price.
GOTT STRAFE ENGLAND
>>61786489
>>61786426
beck who?
>>61786426
Beck was Dutch and all Poles with German, Dutch, Freech etc. roots hated Germans.
>>61787478
Beck was a retard, not Dutch
Should have fucking sided with Adolf
>bu bu but muh jews
I don't see anyone blaming bulgarians romanians or slovaks for death camps. Only this shitheap of a country, the one that actually saved the hook nosed menace.
>>61787366
ayyyy kurwas, answer me
>>61787762
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Beck
traitor, kike, imbecile - Józef Beck
>>61787762
Minister of foreign affairs.
The type of nigga who has brits teling him that royal navy is already unloading troops in Syria to crush Hitler from both sides and believes it.
>>61788008
>The type of nigga who has brits teling him that royal navy is already unloading troops in Syria to crush Hitler from both sides and believes it.
>>61787918
he seems like a clueless idiot.
>>61788067
He was, Got us into not our war, dying for British interests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Lievywdoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDmovEja_f0
wait, western """poles""" are actually ukies and lithuanians and belarusians?
>>61790509
Yes.
>>61790509
>>61790566
No. They are Poles from what is now Lithuania, Belarus and Ukraine.
>>61790912
Aka eastern bydlo pretending to be western
>>61790986
>>61790912
I never thought about where all the easterners went to, are they all bydlo trash?
>>61791050
not all.
>>61791050
You know, when you have to leave your home city and start living 600kms away, it can be hard for you desu.
>>61791050
>are they all bydlo trash?
They are not. Don't listen to that retard.
>>61791207
t. """""western"""" """"pole"""
co usiłujesz osiągnąć zakładając po kilka tredów dziennie
>>61786325
two wrongs dont make a right
>>61791521
swiatową dominacje
>"Poland was almost certainly the most disliked and her Foreign Minister the most distrusted. Poland's pursuit of an independent line left her bereft of any close friends by the end of 1938…. The Western powers saw Poland as a greedy revisionist power, illiberal, anti-Semitic, pro-German; Beck was a 'menace,' 'arrogant and treacherous.'"
I wonder, how comes a country that never did anything wrong was so disliked? Hmmmm....
>>61791718
Propaganda.
First they wanted to sell us to the Bolsheviks right after regaining independence in 1918, then to Soviets, then to Weimar.
>>61791779
>From 1935 to 1939, Beck supported German claims against Czechoslovakia, citing mistreatment of Polish minorities in Czechoslovakia. In 1937 he began a diplomatic offensive in favor of Slovak independence.[16] He supported Hitler's position in the Munich Agreement in 1938. Within days Poland invaded and seized Teschen, an industrial district of Czechoslovakia with 240,000 people, many of them ethnic Poles.
Seems like Beck and Hitler were bros
dat circle
>>61791816
Beck was a faggot.
Hitler admired Pilsudski. I still think 1939 was a mistake. It wasn't even about Poland but Anglo schemes.
>>61791718
>I wonder why a country that regained its independance from its new neighbours was hated by said neighbours after taking their land
>>61791885
>their land
>>61791961
nice meme
it was theirs. they owned it for centuries and main population was german.
>>61791854
Is this really true though?
>After Adolf Hitler came to power in January 1933, Piłsudski is rumored to have proposed to France a preventive war against Germany.
>Hitler repeatedly suggested a German-Polish alliance against the Soviet Union, but Piłsudski declined, instead seeking precious time to prepare for potential war with Germany or with the Soviet Union.
>>61791992
Nobody really believed germany will honour agreement, especially after czechoslovakia
As for preventive strike, that's true
We offered france to remove hitler together in 1933 and 1935
>>61791992
Yeah, Pilsudski literally left Beck testament.
1. Never go to war on Polish territory
2. Don't enter war first.
Guess what happened.
>>61792030
Anglos and French used us.
>>61792042
After they would finish soviet union, under some bullshit reason they would attack us
England/France was our best bet
>>61791885
what about this part? >>61791816
>>61791989
>for centuries
>main population was german
Are u a h*hol btw?
>>61792066
>England/France was our best bet
No it wasn't.
UK didn't have an army and French were fucked after WW1.
>>61792030
its not like Poland didnt participate in the partition of czechoslovakia
>>61792079
stop
>>61792137
Not like they didn't attack us while we were busy fending off bolsheviks. Just reclaiming the same clay.
>>61792137
Poland did not promise anything
>>61792083
France had strongest army at beginning
>>61792137
>>61792229
Fuck czechs
who cares
>>61792247
They did. I know. But at the same time they literally told Beck that they won't send an army outside of Maginot line in case of war.
Beck brought the war upon us, for Anglo interests.
>>61792273
War was inevitable
If not now, germans would come for our land later
Alliances and promises meant nothing to them
>>61792363
>Alliances and promises meant nothing to them
Same can be said about UK that fucked us in the ass during war and after it, more than Germans.
>>61792148
thats how poland should look nowadays
>>61792363
nah, Hitler genuinly wanted to ally with Poland
If only you guys werent so stubborn
>>61792415
Lies
He allied with japan, and yet he already planned war against them
>>61792415
Wasn't even about allying from what I know
Just about not letting Soviets through Poland, when Hitler invades France.
Not muh Danzig, not corridor, but a fucking GUARANTEE
>>61792450
And there were no orders for attacking Poland before we signed with UK lol.
Hitler was emotional and unstable, he felt betrayed that we signed with UK. That was death sentence for Poland and Poles.
>>61792148
What are you trying to prove with that map, fucktard?
It is clearly visible that Western Poland, Upper Silesia, Pomerania and Southern East Prussia had Polish majority.
Eastern Poland was populated almost exclusively by Poles as well, the thing is that they were russified and brainwashed during partitions to not think they are Poles.
>>61792502
>betrayed
Germans always hated Poland
They had precise plans for lebensraum, for genocide and/or germanization of even their baltic allies and wars against their japanese allies
It's like signing pact with Gaunter O'Dimm - it's always a bad idea
>>61792558
I thought you meant "Sczecin" and "Wrocław".
No need to be hostile.
>>61792564
Well obviously.
I never said we should be bffs with germans. We could just Italy'd our way out of this war and even gain some territory.
>>61792598
Next war would be against us, and we would have literary 0 allies then
>>61792633
But we would have fully mobilised army.
And we didn't have allies in 1939-1945 anyway.
Any scenario would be better than real 1939/
>>61792386
GTFO from my country h*hol subhuman scum. Your artificial country and identity will be finished soon.
>>61792671
Even if we fully mobilized, 1vs1 would end in our defeat
Our only hope is alliance, which would at least tie some of hostile forces
>>61792697
No one knows if Hitler would win in France in 1939.
Keep in mind that no one knows if he would go through Ardenes, he could lose in 1v1 on Maginot line.
>Poles STILL butthurt that the Anglosphere """"allowed"""" Russia to have them after WWII
You cannot negotiate with Russia when their army is occupying the country. You have nothing to bargain with. We would have had to go to war to free you, a war we would have lost.
>>61792737
No one expected hitler to win in france
>>61792598
>I thought you meant "Sczecin" and "Wrocław".
>No need to be hostile.
Ok, sorry, I thought you were talking about lands Poland gained after WWI
>>61792681
wniosek wysnułes trafny, chociaż ze złych przesłanek
>>61792785
Yeah, just a small misunderstanding.
No worries.
>>61792843
t.
>>61792598
>We could just Italy'd our way out of this war
lol what a moron, we aren't a remote peninsula fended off with mountain ranges from the rest so we can change sides at a whim, we would get our shit rekt
>>61793318
Change the sides, faggot.
American would enter anyway
>>61793732
I don't think you could have pulled a Croatia and make best buddies with Hitler while being Slavs yourselves because Poland was core Lebensraum (especially Danzig/Gdansk)
And the 3 millions polish jews would have died anyway
>>61793876
muh lebensraum meme is outdated
Danzig wasn't Polish anyway. It was French propaganda.
>>61793913
He still conquered Poland to get space. He installed a civil government (like in Ukraine or Belarus) instead of a military administration like in France precisely for that reason.
>>61793971
He did that because of Anglo-Franco-Polish deal.
>>61790509
Western Ukies are actually Poles in denial.
>>61794689
Nah. No matter how hard you try to civilize Ukrainains, you will fail.
>>61791854
>It wasn't even about Poland but Anglo schemes.
It was. The eternal Anglo tricked Poland (Beck) into not siding with Germany and committing suicide by becoming the primary target instead of them...
>>61791992
Yes, Pilsudski was ahead of his time and actually understood geopolitics and what will happen. He would surely ally himself with Hitler later if the didn't die in 1935 tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeO9QbR2cSA
>>61794921
I wonder if English aren't Khazars in some way.
They're the worst scum of this earth.
>>61794734
They were civilised catholic Poles until they got under the influence of russian barbaric asiatic "culture" when Poland was partitioned.
>>61792068
>>61792137
Czechoslovakia stole Zaolzie in 1919 when Poland was fighting off the Bolshevik invasion of Europe in the east. It had a Polish majority and Poland took it back in 1938.
>>61792451
This. Beck fucked up.
>>61792633
>Next war would be against us, and we would have literary 0 allies then
Poland literally had 0 allies in 1939, except Hungary...
>>61794964
You know what family has the London banks in their pockets and reserved seats in the House of Lords?
>>61795436
>Rothschild
>London banks
You mean all national banks in the world except for Cuban and North Korean.
>>61795561
I was referring mostly to Britain. It's their new nest since Frankfurt.
>>61792148
This should be the current map. Poland does not deserve the northeast, Pomerania and Danzig.
They all went to shit under Polish incompetence and brud.
>>61796821
>This should be the current map. Poland does not deserve the northeast, Pomerania and Danzig.
>They all went to shit under Polish incompetence and brud.
They got rebuild by us you fucking imbecile.
>>61796862
Infrastructure works only really started after 2004 and Poland becoming EU member, and therefore most of the rebuilding was done by German money.
Poland cannot into economic activity, Asiatic culture of chaos and dysfunction plagues your people.
>>61797296
Get the fuck out already hohol subhuman.
>>61790509
Yes. I live in the west and have Ukrainian roots lol.
>>61796821
Stfu you fuckin uneducated ignorant leaf faggot. Your shitty artificial country should be annexed by the USA.
>>61797296
You know shit about the EU and how it works and how Poland more lost than profited from being part of it, fucktard. Not to mention those cities were rebuilt long before year 2004.
>>61786489
Er strafe es.
>>61797445
Nice cherry-picked images of the German-build old town.
Here is the actual Polish contribution to rebuilding Danzig. Such an improvement.
>>61797754
Germans have commieblocks as well you retard
>>61797754
>Gdańsk old town
>German-built
great meme
>commieblocks
>Polish contribution
even better meme
Drown yourself, turd.
>>61797754
Looks comfy
>>61797811
Skurwieslaw, pls, your deflections are not helping.
To help stop Polski brud, you must accept it first. Like an alcoholic must admit to the problem first, before any self-improvement is to be made.
>>61797754
Gdansk was influenced by Flemish architects you dolt.
In all fairness, while Poles were obviously first in Silesia and Pomerania, you have to admit that those influences were influenced by Germans as much as by Poles. It is Polisj clay in my opinion, but Germans left their mark and Pooland was unnecessarily aggressive when polonizing those areas after WW2
>>61798747
>german alternative history
you are influenced by Turks atm
>>61798747
>influences were influenced
meant areas were influenced ofc
>>61798747
The early Slavs who settled in Western Poland were genetically closer to Germans than the Iranic-Armenian Asiatics that arrived with the rest of the Slav-wagon later.
i.e. Wends.
>>61798779
What are you talking about? Do you honestly mean to say that Prussians did not contribute to places like Breslau or Danzig.
Keep in mind that a good number of architects in said cities were German/Prussian and more or less "guest workers", when those areas were still very Polish
>>61798747
I agree and I blame it all on your actions during WW2, people had to take it out on someone.
>>61798747
Nobody is denying that there were German influences there in the past, but tody they are gone.
> Pooland was unnecessarily aggressive when polonizing those areas after WW2
You must be mentally handicapped.
>>61796862
Poles literally founded and built Gdańsk you stupid leaf nigger.
>>61797754
>>61798747
I almost agree with what you're saying, except the last part.
>>61798857
>The early Slavs who settled in Western Poland
Were proto-Poles you dumbfuck.
>>61803573
>>61786325
>Japan killed 20 mil chinese
>USA killed x mil iraques
>Sovietunions gulags
...
>>61803622
No one is denying that. We're only saying that you've been terrible neighbors, that's all.
