Really makes you think...
>>61751198
According to this map,South Gemany is French , East germany is Polish, North-West Germany is Dutch, finally Middle Germany and Northern are Danes.
>>61751474
You have a meme tier knowledge of haplogroups
>>61751533
Germany was always bunch of fucking tribes merged into one country.
>>61751198
(On a phone so can't edit two into one)
really makea you think
>>61751595
This is just disgusting, how on earth did they manage those borders?
>>61751664
>>61751686
There is no German ethnicity.
>>61751533
R1B -312 is Gaullish
While the entire european clade of R1A in Europe is slav
As for I1-I2 they are pre indo europeans which are still existing in the Balkans and in Northern Europe.
it's you who have a meme tier knowledge of haplogroups, not me.
>>61751595
we all are, Germany was just really really late to merge
>>61751198
>East Germany is Slavic
>South Germany is Celtic
>>61751763
Not true
Germans are fake nation
>>61751664
>>61751713
wow, really makes you think...
>>61751804
>Germans are fake nation
wat
>>61751804
>poland was a mistake
>>61751831
ask Bavarian if he feels "german"
>>61751861
kraut - out
>>61751732
>the entire R1a in europe is slav
Absolutely fucking meme tier lad, this is what I was talking about
R1a was in Scandinavia before R1b, the germans were a mix of R1b, R1a and I1 carrying people to begin with. But retards like you discover haplogroups and suddenly start applying them meme tier groups from the roman times when subclades are mostly attributed to groups that existed hundreds of years before them
R1b-312 is not "guallish" it's orignally celto-Italic and has been a german subclade since before the gauls existed
>>61751198
What does it mean?
>>61751866
that's called regionalism which is understandable due to the history of Germany and Bavaria.
>>61751901
>Absolutely fucking meme tier lad, this is what I was talking about
>R1a was in Scandinavia before R1b, the germans were a mix of R1b, R1a and I1 carrying people to begin with. But retards like you discover haplogroups and suddenly start applying them meme tier groups from the roman times when subclades are mostly attributed to groups that existed hundreds of years before them
>R1b-312 is not "guallish" it's orignally celto-Italic and has been a german subclade since before the gauls existed
There he is.
Butthurt american muh heritaj nigger.
I'm sorry we crashed your dreams, burgerboi.
>>61751866
i am from bavaria and i feel german so what of it?
>>61751881
no
>>61751533
Also the other R1B in Europe are either Italic or Celtic, the germanics as a people is a meme, even their know leaders like ariovistus for example wear a gaulish name, same goes for their tribes like the Boii, the Markomans, etc.
Germanics unlike Celto-Italics and Slavs don't have a proper haplogroup.
>>61751909
Rightful clay
Really makes you think ...
>>61751943
lies
now get out
>>61751920
that's called faking nationhood
Why do you think germany is federation? Because every state has it's own real nation
>>61751992
This is actually true.
It's sad, but true. Russians didn't give a shit about anything, even though Warsaw was the richest city in Russian """"""Empire"""""
Look at this gif.
>>61751967
Of France?
>>61752010
>lies
prove me wrong and no
>>61752054
I already did
le eternal slav thread
>>61752034
well russia was fucking huge at this time
>>61752085
no you didn't
>>61751931
I'm not even german, I dont know my ancestry, I just think it's pathetic that you don't understand what you're posting. You just loath germany for no reason and are absolutely buttblasted. Like these map you show here dont prove any kind of point
>>61751948
>R1B in Europe are either Italic or Celtic
Again more memes, you think haplogroups are designated to modern language groups who you attribute to random people from roman times when in fact it's much more complicated than that.Don't let having a modern ethnicity like being french make you blind to science and start excepting pseudo theories
>>61752137
Yes I did
you're just too dumb to figure it out
>>61752137
>well russia was fucking huge at this time
And a total backward shithole as a bonus.
>>61752161
>Like these map you show here dont prove any kind of point
But yours do, right?
kys autist
>>61752163
no you didn't
how many times must i say it again?
prove me wrong or out
>>61751198
it was never up in the air about the fact taht the Eastern half of the German empire was Slavs who were Germanized over 500 years beforehand
>>61752211
I already did
how many times must i say it again?
Now get out
>>61752132
We are one and we mean you no harm
Something to really make you think
>>61752199
Uh yes? They show the movement of haplogroups into germany and other countries thousands of years before meme language groups like "slavs" "germanics" and "celts" existed
>>61752270
>>61752259
We must fix it and repolonize them
>>61752288
>They show the movement of haplogroups into germany and other countries thousands of years before meme language groups like "slavs" "germanics" and "celts" existed
And?
R1a is still dominant in Poland, R1b in France and England and Germany is divided between those two.
So what the fuck are you trying to do here?
>>61752322
He is trying to say that haplogroups do not matter when talking about modern nations.
>>61752297
>>61752351
They're still here though.
And everyone knew that Europeans are bunch of buttfucking each other """"brothers"""" anyway.
>>61752322
Is that the actual logic you are using? I know you are not that simple minded. Why dont you read this, it's about R1a in germany
>>61751198
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>>61752137
We Koreans are racially homogeneous
>>61752322
I2a forms almost 60% of my region and over 70% of my immediate region. That doesn't mean all other I2a eastwards are "X"
Your logic is shit, genetics superimposed by nations. When you lead discussions like these, words like "Polish, German, French" should be banned, in an "ethno" sense, outside of geographic naming and such
>>61752387
What are you even trying to say?
>>61752418
Not sure what this means.
>>61752357
delet yourself!
>>61752300
>We must fix it and repolonize them
for what reasons?
>>61752161
Nope there is no meme, this a fact that celts and italics descendants : French, Spanish, British, Italians, Irish, etc are all predominantly R1B and speak either a celtic or an italics.
While slavic descendants Poles, Ukrainians, Russians, Belarussians, etc have all a few subclades in common which predominant among them.
>>61752416
more like gaymanic lmao
>>61752418
>>61752462
no
for historical justice
>>61752464
>Update
Just as ancient celts and italics mainly had R1b and ancient slavs had mostly R1a, Ancient Germanic people had both. You are thinking in very basic and simple thoughts in terms of haplogroups and expressing the most common misconceptions by kids who just discover these things. All haplogroups are thousands of years older than you realize with hundreds of unique subclades found across a wide arrange of people
>>61751198
They are one of the tribes that are suspected as the ancestors of some or all of today's Slavs.
/.../
The most exhaustive Roman treatment of the Veneti comes in Germania by Tacitus, who, writing in AD 98, locates the Veneti among the peoples on the eastern fringe of Germania. He was uncertain of their ethnic identity, classifying them as Germans based on their way of life but not based on their language (in comparison to, for example, the Peucini):
>Here Suebia ends. I do not know whether to class the tribes of the Peucini, Venedi, and Fenni with the Germans or with the Sarmatians. The Peucini, however, who are sometimes called Bastarnae, are like Germans in their language, manner of life, and mode of settlement and habitation. Squalor is universal among them and their nobles are indolent. Mixed marriages are giving them something of the repulsive appearance of the Sarmatians... The Veneti have borrowed largely from Sarmatian ways; their plundering forays take them all over the wooded and mountainous country that rises between the Peucini and the Fenni. Nevertheless, they are to be classed as Germani, for they have settled houses, carry shields and are fond of travelling fast on foot; in all these respects they differ from the Sarmatians, who live in wagons or on horseback.[4]
Despite this rather "functional" accounting of the Veneti as belonging amongst the Germanic tribes, slavists such as Pavel Josef Šafařík have criticized Tacitus for identifying the Venethi as Germanic,[5] due to the similar appearance of Slavs and Germans.
BUT WE WUZ VANDALS, VANDALS WERE GERMANS XD
>yet another polack thread
>>61752418
But you are a swede
>>61752418
>We Koreans are racially homogeneous
>A Swede
>>61752642
>its the WE WUZ KANGZ pole
>>61752812
I think he posted a pic of himself on /int/. He looks like a finn.
You autist.
>>61752585
>All haplogroups are thousands of years older than you realize
You realize these people existed before written history r-right ?
>with hundreds of unique subclades found across a wide arrange of people
You realize these subclades are people's DNA Identity, and not some sign with written with "Romans where there" but DNA transmitted from father to son r-rigtht ?
>>61752743
>>61752812
Just nickname
>>61752886
i didn't post my pic
>>61753293
You realize that haplogroups are a miniscule part of your "dna identity"? Someone whose ancestors have all been Swedes for example, for thousands of years, will be completely Swedish, even if he has R1a or R1b or any other haplogroup.
>>61753468
>You realize that haplogroups are a miniscule part of your "dna identity"?
A miniscule part who allow us to know who is a descendant of who.
>someone whose ancestors have all been Swedes for example, for thousands of years, will be completely Swedish, even if he has R1a or R1b
Because the swedish system is cucked and they don't follow the ius sanguinis but the ius soli,
Also Swede is a cultural identity, but Pre Indo-European Scandinavian I1 is a genetic identity, like Celto-Italic or Slavs.
> or any other haplogroup.
Place an A haplogroup ( pure bred african) in sweden and you'll still obtain a brown manlet mutt, and not a blond haired swedes.
>>61751474
>South Gemany is French
No, its german
>East germany is Polish
Baltic
>North-West Germany is Dutch
As it is
>Middle Germany and Northern are Danes
Anglo-Danish
>>61754139
>implying a guy who has A -haplogroup wouldn't be indistinguishable from other Swedes if his ancestors were all Swedes for thousands of years
just delete this entire thread
>>61754622
We have mutt in France who race mixed 200 years ago, and they don't like french m8
>>61754686
delete yourself
>>61754622
>implying last names aren't meaningful
>implying an entire chromosome isn't meaningful
>t. (((Goldbergstein)))
>>61754698
We're talking thousands of years, not hundreds. You're basically arguing that you're a nigger.
>>61753468
>>61754792
Haplotype distribution of an entire population is definitely meaningful.
>>61754759
>implying either of those are meaningful
>especially a thing you can change whenever you like
>>61754854
Yes for figuring out ancient movements of peoples. Doesn't mean that haplogroups mean you're suddenly another nationality.
>>61754910
>Doesn't mean that haplogroups mean you're suddenly another nationality.
Yes, I would say they are much more meaningful for entire populations. As I said, on an individual level they are around as meaningful as last names, even more-so since they only change with mutations.
>>61754792
>You're basically arguing that you're a nigger.
What are you talking about i'm a R1B m8
>We're talking thousands of years, not hundreds.
We cannot ascertain what you said because there is no factual evidence of such transformation, but the mutt in my country are reals and they don't look like french even after 200 years of race mixing with french, as the saying goes : once you go black you'll never go back
>>61755027
I'm talking about the fact that you're claiming that people don't change through generations, ie. you're basically saying that you're the same semi-human nigger that your ancestors were tens of thousands of years ago. Also
>We cannot ascertain what you said because there is no factual evidence of such transformation
lolwut, there are a shit ton. All of Europe for example.
>It's another 'genetics have to match ethnolinguistic groups' thread
