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will you guys consider us human if we do this?
>>61722605
You have a stable goverment now OP?
Turkey should build a wall around lebanon and syria and get ISIS out
>>61722605
Egypt is better country than Libya, Algeria and Morocco together
>>61722605
Only if you achieve being a stable state like you were with Qaddafi
>sorry bout that
>>61722605
No. Egypt and Morrocco are the only two African countries worth visiting due to their history. The rest should all be nuked.
>>61722605
Destroy nigger of arab, africa berberids, safe pure caucasoid arabian blood in arabian peninsula
>>61722631
yes and no
yes there is no more fighting over government
no cuz the people in themselves are still divided as shit on what to do next
the country is far from politically stable but its better than the last 2 years now esp that ISIS is mostly defeated
>>61722631
only if we nuke everything to the left
>>61722605
no, i hate you for ever, because you killed the greatest men in africa. if i ever see a libian i will curse him. may you all libians die of ebola or zika and aids.i curse your whole country! i hate you so much!
>>61722782
meant for
>>61722605
Are you guys even an actual country again? Gaddafi was GOAT, you guys got fucked over.
>>61722694
>Qaddafi
>Stable
Hahaha
>>61722605
Walls wouldn't solve the problem. I don't hate your countries btw, just think we should fix the cause instead of treating the consequences (refugees).
>>61722697
>Egypt is African
WE
on a side note Egyptians are like the Mexicans of MENA
border hopping and shit
Morocco is meh
>>61722605
Aren't you guys undergoing a civil war or some shit?
Are you safe OP?
>>61722840
I didn't mean the refugees i meant that the Maghreb cut themselves off entirely from the middle east and their drama
>>61722797
RIP sweet prince. you dont deserve this filthy arabs surrounding you peacefulll biduin. may allah grant you highest heaven.
>>61722872
yeah i'm safe
yeah we had a civil war for a while but ISIS ironically caused everyone to take an enemy of my enemy mentality and agree on a government of unity
still some legal shit like the constitution being announced that is causing a divide tho
mostly islamists vs liberals
>>61722896
It would still reach you, one way or another. Or you could establish laïcité (actually the whole Arab world could tb'h)
>>61722605
No, North Africans will always be subhuman
>>61722605
Italy approves
Tunisia is the greatest country of north africa , ever heard about hannibal ? About Carthage and our history ? Plus we have better beaches and touristic places so please fuck off
>>61722844
libia is shit since gaddafi died. nobody likes you, nobody respects you, you killed an angel, your country will be never prosper, you will always fight for nothing and are cursed. you cant kill people like gaddafi. hes a hero
gaddafi, saddam. i miss you
>>61723044
>dawlatul islami baqya!
Treating us of subhuman you fat american ... i bet your belly does cover your micro penis ...
yes. the berbers need to separate themselves from the sub-human arabs.
>>61723053
Gaddafi was a shitty, corrupt, violent leader who regularly talked about bombarding the West. From what I've read on "L'Arabe du futur" (story of a Syrian man and his French wife living under Gaddafi), he installed North Korea-lite at our doors.
It would have exploded sooner or later.
>>61722605
algeria looks larger than usual
>>61723112
ISIS recruits more in Tunisia because government is non-religious.
>>61722671
Turkish government and ISIS are allies.
>>61722605
I will never consider north africans as "people" as long as they are mudslims
>>61723200
explain. shouldnt the government being secular mean the people care about religion less? ISIS are literally /r9k/ arabs.
>>61723166
since he died we are flooded with Aperabs and niggers, he was a beast tamer, he kept the arapes in the cage. he was fantastic men, you jew.
>>61722605
Why do you worship these people who consider you subhuman scum, don't you feel like filth?
The wall would protect which side from which?
>>61723044
>Ever heard about that guy that lost
>About that country that was fucked out of history by Rome
You guys sure are great.
>>61723200
Well said , and also because they baught them with money (a lot of )
>>61723201
no, turkey is ISIS. stay created it, and financed it and support it thill dis day. very sneaky guys.
>>61722797
>you
>>61723053
>you
>>61723225
I am north african (atheist) and we are people stop being racist towards muslims the majority of them are actually nice ... stop being racist
>>61723237
Government being non-religious makes it easier for ISIS to spread its propaganda. Also, fanatics realise that Tunisia is the ISIS version of "cucked" so they leave en masse.
>>61723252
Edgy. Gaddafi was a monster and he could have flipped the switch at any time.
So long as there are dictators, we won't have peace in the Middle East.
>>61723418
that and most importantly government attitudes don't permeate past the upper/middle middle class.
>>61723290
Yeah and you just have no history you were discovered in 1500 and you are saying that 3000 years of culture and pride isnt great , you are just ignorant
>>61723201
And also america
>>61723481
Kek. Your history is 45% losing, 45% being a colony, 10% being irrelevant.
But keep going, you guys are the best at being ignored.
>when ISIS controls more 30% of his country
>>61723280
This.
ISIS is already in Libya and the Intelligence services of the west are going a little bit crazy because if they slip into and get a real foothold in Tunisia they will be very close to Italy and that shit can't be tolerated.
I'm confused, are you implying that you're different or better than them? Because last I checked, you're all still a bunch of Mohammedan scum.
>>61723545
Based Italy
>>61723112
>france
>>61723633
Egypt has the oldest organized church in the world, with 10 million adherents you dumb motherfucker
>>61723545
This, tbqh. Saudi Arabia are criminals. We should treat them as equal as ISIS.
>>61723717
Aren't Egyptian Coptics were redneck tier nowadays?
>>61723591
Your history is 1% interesting native shit, 98% being Portugal's bitch and rebelling about it, 1% poverty and corruption
>>61723717
>hey look guys there's a few christians in this sea of filth
there are a few jews there too, i don't care
>>61723545
bp
>>61723816
Actually our natives weren't interesting at all, and we didn't even really rebel from Portugal.
>>61723816
Lobsters crawl on the sea floor you french bastard.
>>61723842
and noone cares about you ameriturd
>>61722605
I'd consider the countries right of the wall more civilized and the countries to the left as bad as sub-saharan africa tbqh
>>61723842
>there are a few jews there too
Literally less than 40 fyi
>>61722605
'no'
>>61722605
Question, how is the civil war against the Islamists going?
Y'all are winning, right?
>>61723943
>that flag
see >>61723925
>>61723894
>>61723875
stop bullying Tunisia
>>61723842
>10 million
>a few
for someone who's entire heritage is based off of joyriding on abrahamic religions you sure have a lot of gall to think your opinion merits anything but pity.
also, great response
>you're all muslims
>there's a lot of christians
y-yeah?! well, I-I d-don't care
>>61723801
they're Egyptians just like anybody else. There's the extremely rich and the extremely poor.
>>61723801
>Aren't Egyptian Coptics were redneck tier nowadays?
I met a few here, the're very polite and well educated
>>61724009
Rare regional.
>>61723894
? What did he mean by this
>>61723252
Because you, an autistic German teenager on the internet, would know absolutely everything about life in Libya under Gaddafi, right?
Never understood that weird strategy of immediately praising literal dictators as soon as they come into conflict with the US. We get it, you don't like the West. That doesn't automatically make the despots into saints.
>Al-Assad
>good boy dindu nuffin
>Gaddafi
>good boy dindu nuffin
>>61723609
>ISIS is already in Libya
They've been there for quite a while, you know. Same thing with the Sinai peninsula. It was all part of a strategy to branch out into Northern Africa while they had a lot of wind under their sails, having just captured large parts of Syria and Iraq, and the resources that came with that.
As I'm sure you know, they're losing ground, though. Especially in Libya.
>>61723237
No, the secular government means religious wackos are more susceptible to radicalization
They feel alienated by their state
>>61724166
Where's yours faggot.
>>61723943
Fucking rude m8
>>61723311
>>61723573
>>61722671
Europe created this shit, To reduce the power of the turkey and stealing oil from the Middle East.
Fuckin Europeans.
>>61724264
Oh sorry i meant to say that you three are the only good things in the ME, well not right now but still
>>61724264
ISIS is a Mossad/CIA asset.
Further destabilize the Middle East, ease access to oil and future land to Israel.
>>61724264
>Europe created this shit
>not the islamist party that's in charge of turkey
I know you're aching for your centennial genocide, but the Syrians really didn't do anything to you guys.
>>61724009
Just ignore him ... an unknown country till 1500 they have no history ... and still talks about history , hannibal is known to be one of the best war strategist ever
>>61724311
Because we are not middle eastern really, mena culture is very bad. rape, jihadist islamism immorality. we are secular because we are from eurasian steppe. i hope we can bring up well this shit
>>61723201
Wow guys, Isis is such a nice ally!They totally did not need to bomb our tourist areas and capital, killing countless of woman and children civillians, but they went ahead and did it anyway!
HOW FUCKING NICE OF THEM!ISIS BEST FUCKING ALLY 2016
>>61724228
Extension bugged.
>>61724326
>da jews did this
>>61724441
Well by middle east i mean muslim cunts
>>61722605
I'm sorry Hilary Clinton fucked your country up.
>>61724453
>support Islamist movements in the civil war
>Islamist movements balloon and radicalize
>Erdogan realizes he fucked up
>half-bombs them because they're still fighting Kurds and Assad
>ISIS get mad
>blow up an airport
>think your government is scat-free out of all of this
>>61724264
What if, by chance, ISIS was created just like they say it themselves - and that neither Turkey or Europe had anything to do with it?
>Al-Qaeda in Iraq splits due to disagreements between one terrorist leader and another
>One of the terrorist leaders is smarter than the other
>"We can take over the crack game!"
>Proclaims an Islamic Caliphate, takes over land in Western Iraq
>He enters Syria at the start of the civil war
>Lots of guns, resources
>Free to do whatever the fuck he wants
What if there is no plot? What if they're just power-hungry barbarians? Oh wait.
>>61724569
the fuck is this shit
>>61724569
This is the wrongest map i ever saw anywhere
>>61724681
Algeriexit
>>61724574
You're next.
>>61724586
>scat-free
they're in deep scat now
>>61724764
10/10 genghis, I chuckled hard
>>61724441
>>61724586
>>61724679
hilariously enough, the norweigian, fucking gets it.
''Isis'' was created by just a terrorist group taking advantage of a situation.
Turkey and the west are both to blame for what has happened and why isis just kept growing bigger.They played with fire and got burnt, they tried to make a profit out of a civil war.
I do admit erdoshit did, and still does, bussiness with Isis.But thats only because he is satan incarnate and noone in this country has the power to stop him.
>>61724722
It could have been worse.
>>61724920
so we're on the same page?
>>61725048
yeah pretty much.
Funny, how even on the internet, sensible people can reach a joint conclusion.
Also send help
>>61725091
I'll send cookies and Euros, does that work?
>>61724453
I like Turkey, it causes immense butthurt in middle eastern countries
Turks are bro tier imo
>>61722844
How so? Egypt doesn't look that bad compared to its neighbors.
>>61724569
>alg
>french flag
lel
>>61725803
we're not torn in civil wars, but our economy is in serious shit. We have our problems.
>>61722605
As long as you are in your shithole, I couldn't care less
>>61722605
No, but I might do if you build pic related and stay on the other side
>>61722605
We should build a wall but in Libya borders with our tunisian and algerian brothers.
and please Libya / Mauritania stop being maghreb you are not.
the last thing the Maghreb needs is ISIS.
>>61725978
But how are Egypt's neighbors any better(minus Israel)?
>>61724264
>>61724326
lmao what's the Turkish version of "kurwa"?
>>61722840
Oh yes surely ISIS and Islamist militias were running around installing sharia law in Gaddafi's day!
>>61724264
While Europe did support Wahhabists in WW1 to dismantle the Ottoman Empire, ISIS is directly enabled by Turkey. Your government has the capabilities to destroy ISIS, yet they're at your borders.
>>61726223
They have less problems with sexual violence and corruption. But, he's just memeing. Egypt isn't doing nearly as bad as he makes it seem.
>>61726383
No, they were too busy being accidentally indoctrinated into militant islamism by his oppressive apparatuses.
Don't you guys have the same issue with your prison system, where you go in for something stupid and come out a hardened thug? Now imagine applying that to a political context, as so many prisoners were pre-arab spring. It's not rocket science.
>>61723418
>So long as there are dictators, we won't have peace
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Winter
So explain today.
>>61723290
>>About that country that was fucked out of history by Rome
>>61724177
>>Al-Assad
>>good boy dindu nuffin
>>Gaddafi
>>good boy dindu nuffin
Who said this?
>As I'm sure you know, they're losing ground, though. Especially in Libya.
I wonder why they gained it in the first place?
>>61726234
Anan / Eben :DDDdd xd
>>61726430
we are uncapable of beating a bunch of illiterate uncultured commie goatfuckers tucked up in some mountains, what gives you the idea that we can take an organization that an entire coalition couldnt deal with?
>>61724679
>ignore the fact ISIS is in power everywhere that the West invaded/fucked up in the Middle East
>>61726482
>No, they were too busy being accidentally indoctrinated into militant islamism by his oppressive apparatuses.
(Citation needed)
Explain Tunisia which is the biggest source of ISIS recruits.
>>61723598
>when ISIS controls ANY of his country
You know what guys?
we don't want to reunite with nobody. leave us alone.
we don't want ISISLIBYA
we don't want a people governed by a literally handicapped president and who was drown (just in 90's) into the Jihad shitsorm
Tunisia have QT girls desu why not?
>>61726519
>hasn't lived in the middle east
>doesn't understand what life was like there
>doesn't understand the complex nature of politics there and the appeal of a simplified ideology that draws legitimacy based on religion after disillusionment with the establishment occurs
>posts wikipedia articles written by people who, as is usual with the middle east, misconstrue and misinterpret everything because their pride is too big to listen to actual middle easteners explain why things are the way they are
>insist on their own interpretation for the fuck of it
>come to erroneous conclusions
>make stupid statements such as the advocation of dictatorships
why man
just why
>explain today
Post-revolutionary turmoil is neither a new concept nor is it out of the ordinary. Maybe if you looked through history books instead of chinese fish gutting forums who's ideology is based on memes and the conclusions reached by edgy teenagers then you'd get somewhere. Are you aware of the terror in france?
>>61726731
Just look at the relationship between the people of egypt, the government of Egypt, and the muslim brotherhood and the influence they played.
>explain why tunisia is the biggest source of ISIS recruits
for the same reason that Tunisia was the first country to experience the revolutions of the Arab spring, and for the same reason that it only took a fruit seller self-immolating after being slapped by a police officer to spark a revolution that toppled a system that had been there for two decades: disillusionment with the system. The establishment in place before the revolution was nationalistic (that in itself a follower to the movements of pan-arabism) which advocated cultural conservatism but with a marketedly secular outlook, like a lot of conservatives in the US(which is why they get along so well with El-Sisi nowadays, who is like that.) When the revolution came about and the system was toppled, people split up into different groups (cont.)
>>61726946
who each looked for a force that he/she felt representative of him/her. Since religion is such a big thing in the middle east, a lot of people gravitated towards that. Add feelings of resentment to old systems and mix in sentiments of a new-found identity based on religion that one is inclined to defend, and you get someone who is well on their way to becoming a zealot. Islamist groups prey on them.
In fact, after the government was toppled (tunisia) the first government to be elected was an Islamist one because they were the opposite (i.e. were the ones always kept down by older systems because of the threat they posed on the workings of the system) that was an offshoot of the Muslim brotherhood. As the months went by, more and more people became discontent with the state of the islamist government, and not just in Tunisia, in Egypt as well (where the same thing had occured.) Islamist governments had become more and more aggressive in post-revolutionary times, assassinating people, sending in their own supporters to deal with protests, etc. Egypt removed the islamist government in place and the Tunisian islamist government realized the shit they were in, and then adopted a much more reconciliatory tone.Since then, the government has been trying to stay in power and so has dumbed down the rhetoric a little. However, people who already formed their identity on the basis of religion thanks to these groups didn't buy that, and became increasingly disillusioned with that as well, and sought more and more radical validation for their newly found identity. Hence, people went down the road of ISIS and whatnot. They've found something new to hold on to that addresses their "grievances". ISIS is literally muslim/trump-pol/.
Stop looking at revolutions as a one-time event. That's what nobody understands. A country's political environment swings like the pendulum of a grandfather clock from left to right constantly- revolutions set that pendulum into overdrive.
>>61727335
and when I say on the basis of religion, I mean it's edgiest interpretations, not the mainstream. This is because Arab teenagers are much like American teenagers in listening to the loudest rather than the most logical voice.
(and I say that as an agnostic)
did I kill the thread? I'm sorry guys. Please resume your normal memes and frogposting
>>61722605
If you do this, you will be considered as human.
>>61726004
No one wants to go to your shitty country, mongol.
>>61731039
>t. fled P*kistan
Fuck, how I hate excessively nationalistic d*asp*ra shits, if your home country is so great why don't you move back there FFS
>>61724461
israel just attacked SAA targets yesterday apparently.
what most of the retards itt don't realize is that gaddafi himself WAS A FUCKING ISLAMIST also in 2011 he released all the criminals to destabilize Libya
this included terrorists
sorry for not responding i had to go out since today is the last day of ramadan and im not 100% a loser yet
>>61725310
Krieg, I...
>>61731629
I'm not Krieg
i have a suggestion
Fixed the wall OP
>>61732127
wait how did you skip sudan and get into ethiopia again?
also Libyans were ready to accept Italians over Ottomans but you went full Facist on us and sent our jews to Germany and killed our Muslims and took the Christians to Italy
you were aiming to exterminate us you little shits
>>61732152
Fuck you the sahara is Moroccan
>>61723545
This.
>>61727966
Different American, but thanks for posting all of that. In truth I'm rather fascinated by the fuckery of African/ME politics. Granted that fuckery goes on wherever politics is, but still its rather interesting. Is Egypt safe enough to visit these days?
>>61723053
You niggers really, really need to stop sucking Qaddafi dick. Yes, he kept the crazies in line. He was also constantly warring with his neighbors
>Attacked Egypt and got BTFO
>Attacked Chad and got BTFO by Africans in Toyota technicals (look the shit up, its hilarious)
>Backed Idi Amin with military units, which got BTFO by Tanzania
>backed various movements around the world that mainly got BTFO
>Intentionally kept most of his military under-trained and under-equipped to prevent mutinies, except for a handful of units under his sons
>Started many large grandiose projects that fell through
>Regularly wore a mandress
>Unealthily addicted to Nasser, may have been gay for him. Nasser himself thought Qaddafi was nice but rather naive
>Constantly tried to start shit with the west (granted he toned it down later)
In a perfect world his son would've taken over and started reforming the country and Qaddafi would've just become a footnote, instead we got the shitstorm that was the Libyan revolution and the ensuing clusterfuck afterwards.
>>61732201
well no, we didn't try to exterminate you, also, ships.
>>61732223
proofs?
>>61732334
his son was a bullshitter btw he was no liberal he was doing that to get the west to like him and his father more
if he really was planning to change libya to liberty he wouldve defected when the bullets started flying
btw in reallife if gaddafi died of old age his sons would have fought among st them for years
each of his sons owned a military unit
>>61732351
>we didn't try to exterminate you
mate Tunisia now has more people than we do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_concentration_camps_in_Libya
>>61732430
I see. Also what do you think of Matthew Vandyke? When will it be safe enough to visit as an American? Sorry if I sound retarded asking these questions, I don't normally have the chance to converse (even if it is online) with people from ME
>>61732700
we weren't trying to exterminate you
we were trying to finish the job
>>61732805
>what do you think of Matthew Vandyke
a really nice person, filled us all with determination and inspiration by fighting with us
>when will it be safe to visit
i estimate by 2017 it would be safe to visit
its okay to visit tripoli now but you gotta be careful still
and no problem i like it when people are interested in my country
>>61732904
rude 2bh i thought we were one country and shit
>>61732951
were is the correct word, and by job i mean restoration
>>61723801
My neighbors were Egyptian Christians... but jesus christ they were the biggest faggots around. They were obsessed with Jesus but at the same time didn't act Christian at all
>>61726234
amina koyim, amk
>>61733025
oh bugger off
>>61732951
So he was well known? Also did you personally fight?
