>Russia will respond accordingly if neighboring Finland joins NATO, Russian President Vladimir Putin has said.
>"NATO would gladly fight Russia to the last Finnish soldier. Russia would not want that. But, it is not our decision, it's yours," stated Putin.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/putin_nato_would_gladly_fight_russia_to_the_last_finnish_soldier/8999170
Finland, pls, don't make a mistake that Ukraine did. I don't want more sanctions after Putin defeats you.
>>61563887
Russia is unstoppable.
>>61563887
>Finland wakes Simo
>Russian army collapses due to pants shitting fear
>Finns capture St Petersburg
>rename it Malmograd
Lel
>>61563887
Russia wouldn't do shit except more military exercises in the area.
>>61563887
>after Putin defeats you
Keep dreaming lmoa
o-ok
he is absolutely right
>>61565243
Malmo is Swedish
>>61563887
>>"NATO would gladly fight Russia to the last Finnish soldier. Russia would not want that. But, it is not our decision, it's yours," stated Putin.
He's right, though.
>>61563887
Why are u getting your news from Yle, Pek...Ivan?
>>61565456
o is not the same as ö even though they look similar enough
>>61563887
Putin did make some controversial statements, some of which can be interpreted to our favor. But he did mention about fighting us to the last soldier. That makes me a little bit worried if not scared.
>>61565456
>Malmo is Swedish
So is Binland
>>61565523
I don't have fancyboy keyboard to do such things
>>61565570
>So is Binland
oh boy
Of course he knew what the course of discussion in Finland was regarding the matter.
That's what the anti-NATO wing has been saying since forever.
>>61565540
NATO is picking a fight with Russia. We have nothing they want, but an alliance with a hostile military organization is prettty fucking scary.
>>61563887
>>61565570
>Murican education.
>>61565540
Of course he said that, that's what he always says.
> Finland's the best and friendliest neighbor.
> We want to trade with you, fuck the EU tho
> Russia gave you independence, we'll celebrate it with you
> Don't join NATO or your country turns into killing fields.
Fuck you Vova.
>>61565540
For whatever reason pic reminded me about this https://youtu.be/lztwjgD10Yw
>>61565570
>>61565785
>Russia gave you independence
Don't worry Finland, Pakis have your back.
>>61565833
Well, they actually did, maybe by mistake but still. You would've never given us that.
>>61565907
>You would've never given us that
I think it's likely if there actually was any real demand for it, which there wasn't.
>>61565954
Yeah right. You were the biggest swine of all the imperialist pigs in European history only limited by your small size and location.
>>61565833
They did, plus Finland developed more during that 100 year period, than it did in when it was part of swedistan
>>61565954
Yes, there wasn't at the time you ruled us. But later when there was, I can't see you giving us anything.
Having said this though, I see you as our friends and bigger brothers. And the folks in the east - well I have my guards up.
>>61566113
The victim mentality is real. Ignoring the fact that the "we" and "you" notion as regards to Sweden and Finland is a modern invention. We treated you about the same way other nations and empires treated their provinces and minorities. We were far FAR from the worst. Had the Russians won the war you'd all be speaking Russian today. As you might notice most of you still speak Finnish, even after 600 years of being part of Sweden.
>>61566182
>plus Finland developed more during that 100 year period
So did most European countries, including Sweden. Correlation is not causation.
>>61566309
There wasn't a "we" and "you" in the way we think of it today. Sweden was largely comprised of minority groups, including, but not limited to, the Finns. Trying to make it sound as though you were singled out and was a speshul snowflake is completely disingenuous.
Russia is always cool
Honestly take Finlandization 2: Electric Boogaloo over being part of the dying west.
We will get to mow shitskins together with Putin once the inevitable arab coup happens in Sweden.
>>61566324
You treated the Turku/Åbo region and later maybe Ostrobothnia and Oulu/Uleåborg as the same as they were important port cities and/or settled by Swedes.
Eastern Finns were slaves and soldiers for your sad attempt of and empire.
>>61566324
Alexander I did more to finland than 600 years of swedish imperialism. Swedes would have eventually tried to eliminate finnish culture and language. We were lucky to have been rescued before you could do that.
>>61566511
>Hakkapeliitta
>slaves
Why the fuck is Russia always threatening everyone and everything?
How do they think this is gonna work in their favor?
He meant that if Binland were in NATO and Russia would be in war with NATO, finns would have to fight for the last soldier, which is obviously true. I wouldn't take it as a threat.
THANK YOU BASED PUTIN
FUCK NATO AND ALL ESTONIAN LOBBY NATO SHILLS
WE WILL NEVER DEFEND BALTICS
GO SUCK MORE AMERICAN NATO COCK AND WATCH YOUR WOMEN BEING BLACKED BY NATO SOLDIERS THEN CRY ABOUT IT IN YOUR SLEEP
>>61563887
>>61566611
Why would they voluntarily go and kill people in Poland and Bohemia? For some crazy imperialist dreams of a mad king in Stockholm?
>>61566632
Severe lack of empathy towards everyone and everything, obviously. The whole country is a complete chaos, literally nothing works out there. I wish we could purge and claim it with 2 million Häyhäs or something
I love 2016
>>61566511
Yeah, far away unimportant regions were not as favored as the literal core of the nation, big fucking surprise. And it's not like the eastern Finns were the only ones. Plenty of regions in Sweden proper suffered the same fate. Just like in most other countries.
This victim mentality of yours is really unbecoming.
>>61566545
Because that was politically favorable for him to do. His last wish was for a rebellion. It had nothing to do with kindness or solidarity.
>Swedes would have eventually tried to eliminate finnish culture and language
You are right about the culture part and that had started LONG before the separation of the country, which is also fairly evident.
As regards to the language I frankly doubt that Sweden would've forced Finns to abandon their mother tongue. Around 25% of Sweden spoke Finnish at the time. A very sizable minority. Of course it's not certain but I think it's likelier that Sweden would've been a bilingual nation had Finland remained. It was only in 2009 that Swedish was declared our official language. Because we'd always been a multilingual country before that, even though the nobility and cuckholmers liked to pretend like it wasn't.
>>61563887
>NATO would gladly fight Russia to the last Finnish soldier.
>>61566418
Yes, there of course wasn't a you against us attitude at the time, and we were no special snowflakes among the minorities. But maybe we would have developed a national sense due to our quite a different language, or maybe not. Who knows, I could be a miserable mongol-looking Swede instead of being a miserable mongol-looking Finn if things would've gone different.
However, as things went the way they did, I'm glad that we got our independence from the Russians. I still don't thinh we would've gotten that from you desu.
>>61566804
Empathy is for women, men are ought to be cold hearted masterminds who dominate over others.
You can clearly see the xenestrogenic consumption in that meme map.
>>61565954
>>61566324
>>61566418
Hilarious how swedecucks always start bombarding replies when Russia is mentioned as a more good-natured empire
>>61563887
>Russia ever conquering Finland
>>61566952
>there of course wasn't a you against us attitude at the time, and we were no special snowflakes among the minorities.
But there was. Finns were always seen as the east barbarians by swedes.
>>61566890
I'm from one the cities that wouldn't exist without the Swedish crown. But I still have empathy for those who weren't at the core of your shitty empire.
I'm not the one with victim mentality. Every time when Finnish posters has even a one kind word towards the Russians you guys come and shit all over the thread.
Why are we arguing again what happened hundreds of years ago?
What happens NOW and what WE do NOW is literally everything that matters, we're not responsible for our history hence it doesn't make sense to argue over it. Stop being so autistic.
>>61566324
>Ignoring the fact that the "we" and "you" notion as regards to Sweden and Finland is a modern invention
That is blatant Svecoman propaganda
>>61566309
>I see you as our friends and bigger brothers
Stockholm syndrome
>>61566418
>So did most European countries, including Sweden. Correlation is not causation.
This was thanks to autonomy, which would've been fiction if we still had been part of you at that time
>>61566804
>ukraine
>krym
>>61567183
It's true though. At least in the west coast from Turku all the way to Oulu.
>>61567097
Of course the Swedes have always looked down on us, as they do today. But at those times there was no such attitude here among the eastern barbarians.
>>61566890
We had been way better off had you just stayed the fuck away from us with your Vatican mercenaries. Fuck Sweden.
>>61566324
>We were far FAR from the worst
You just keep telling yourself that. Russians treated us as their equals and gave us autonomy. Swedes propagated theories of us being sub-human Mongoloids and therefore undeserving of ruling ourselves.
>>61566804
>tfw Estonia is exactly the intermediate between Finland and Russia
>>61567183
This! I find it incredible that even today swedes and fenno-swedes are trying to force this propaganda down our throats. Finland was a great kingdom long before the swedes came here and messed everything up with the novgorodians.
>>61566952
Don't get me wrong, I too am happy you got your independence from Russia. What I'm trying to say is that if Finland's national identity never actually developed in the first not getting your independence would've been a non-issue.
Besides, we gave Norway their independence so why not Finland?
>>61567039
Because they weren't and it irritates me when purely political motives are portrayed as being kindness or solidarity. At that point it simply becomes a device to further your own agenda.
>>61567157
>I still have empathy for those who weren't at the core of your shitty empire
So do I, but that's not what we're discussing. I'm simply explaining why it was the case. Every nation and empire care about their core provinces more than the rest, that's simply how nations work.
>>61567217
>This was thanks to autonomy
That's pure conjecture and not in line with what happened with other European nations. Finland would've experienced an economic upswing whether it was part of Sweden or not.
>>61567348
Because it was in their best interest to do so, as I've said now 3 times.
>ourselves
Stop viewing history through your modern glasses. The nation state is a modern invention and so the "we" and "us" in regards to Sweden and Finland.
>>61567180
This desu. These threads never cease to amaze me with the amount of autism they manage to encase.
>>61567039
Why wonder? Swedes killed our nobles and leaders and replaced them with swede ones. While destroying our history, for try making us one of thems.
I actually understand Russians wiew, Finland is now currently holding longest border with Russian, if i were them and nato would maybe expanding on my these areas i would probably getting prepare too.
Finns and Russians also got really close and nice relationship for years, why just risk it all?
>>61567502
>Because it was in their best interest to do so
Even so, they at least considered us their equals and treated us like human beings. Swedes went on to become the main propagators of the claim that Finns are Mongoloid. Because of that we faced discrimination in the United States and elsewhere. Fuck you and your hypocrisy.
>>61567633
mm keep sucking that big russian cock even harder
>>61563887
So they invite this cunt faced bydlo and he threathens them instead of being a polite guest. And know Finns here are defending him again. Beyond disgusting.
>>61567502
>Finland would've experienced an economic upswing whether it was part of Sweden or not.
Actually it was mostly thanks alexander II
>>61567502
>The nation state is a modern invention and so the "we" and "us" in regards to Sweden and Finland
Your lies won't sway me, Svecoman.
>>61567697
Im not sucking anything, i just see both wiews you piece of fag.
Why dont you go suck some abdi cock?
-> Based Alexander.
>>61567697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajtW-DrV-ps#t=4m20s
Watch from 4:20
>>61563887
Lmao, he said the same shit when the baltics joined
>>61567715
It's fairly evident that 90% of the "Finns" posting here are Putler shills.
That has always been the case, I really don't know why.
The fact is though that our geopolitical location is extremely unfortunate and we shouldn't fuck with Russia, knowing what they are.
>>61567696
>Fuck you and your hypocrisy
I'm not role playing my country. Sweden did a lot of bad things and I'm not defending that. But so did virtually every other fucking country in history as well. I understand why you'd paint us as being the devil, but it's simply not true and there have been plenty of empire throughout history that would've treated you far worse.
>>61567737
Go home Ivan pekkovish, you're drunk.
>>61567891
So fucking what? Watch from 2:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNKe82lHOF8
It's called "bants" you overly sensitive faggot
Lmao
>>61567945
>Go home Ivan pekkovish, you're drunk.
Good argument, really proved me wrong Kaj cuckström
You guys who defend Russians should read about Isoviha. They were imperialist shits waaay before Stalin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland_during_the_Great_Northern_War#Russian_occupation_of_Finland
>>61567945
Still, objectively you've treated us way worse than Russians ever did.
>>61568084
Same goes for Swedes, the only reason they stopped is because they got BTFO
Don't infight Finland, you are all autistic!
>>61568096
Well, "we" did have a lot more time to.
>>61567891
>>61567987
>this fucking guy
Just leave the internet and never come back.
>>61567987
You're not serious, are you? How fucking sensitive can you be?
>>61568084
>>61568204
Get out, Cuckström
>>61568129
Why would they start slaughtering us as they had already established major ports in cities like Åbo, Viborg, Uleåborg and Borgå?
>>61568024
just bantz fäm
Why do Finns troll each other so much
>>61568359
give burger
I think Finland should be neutral in this one.
If they Join NATO they're fucked, otherwise they're fucked too.
Just stay where you are finnbros.
>>61567935
>"Finns"
Fuck off with the NATO shilling Cai-Göran, I'm not going to die for the interests of your Jewish overlords
>>61568492
give banana
>>61565570
underrated bant
>thread discussing the implications of Finland joining NATO and how this would affect Russia
>suddenly a shitposting war between Sweden and Finland
>>61568542
Why?
>>61568602
give viru valge
>>61568615
give banana
I hope China tries to take over Mongolia so the Russians defend them and then we just go dogpile China together, we could get best Korea out of the way too
>>61568644
osta parem kaks, saad alet ;)
>>61567502
>What I'm trying to say is that if Finland's national identity never actually developed in the first not getting your independence would've been a non-issue.
I get that point, but I think that our national identity would have developed. Just look at Norway for fucks sake, they speak practically the same language as you and have a more similar culture all round. And please Norwegians don't get angry, I don't thin you're Swedes.
But what I do think, is that the Finnish national awareness would have risen even under Swedish control. And I feel, that I would be a minority language speaking Swede had we stayed under the guld&blå control.
>>61568530
The main point is you let Putin threaten and blackmail you and your supposed allies in your own country. How that reflects your perceived neutrality I don't know.
I personally think you kind of fucked up letting him in to play tsar in Finland. Niinistö doesn't look too happy either.
>>61568530
Stop spouting the same shit day after day 24/7 and become more flexible with our opinions and ideas. Consider once the fact you might not be right at certain things and embrace the objective standpoint instead of one-sided bigotry. You're way too emotive, like a woman. It's impossible to argue with you.
>>61568644
>give banana
Here, you can save this pic I really like.
Honest question. Why not imitate Switzerland, give everyone a rifle and declare neutrality? If I had power I would do this here.
>>61568890
forgot pic
300 years of russification bs and this is the outcome
I thought Finns and Russia always got along in the past?
>"NATO would gladly fight Russia to the last Finnish soldier.
heh-hoh
>>61568890
We are neutral. It's just this one guy who perceives Russia as a "friend" or something.
>>61569012
He just doesn't like the west is all
I can see why, a lot of us are faggots
Most people wish it wasn't that way
Almost nobody here hates or even dislikes Russia or Russians, but our military would gladly fight for Finland/NATO, our people I'm not sure really
Daily reminder - russian awerage salary is 200 bucks
>>61568793
>way too emotive, like a woman
That's something Scandicucks like you must know a lot about
>>61568780
>allies
What are these allies you speak of? When were they the last time we got invaded?
>>61568780
We've been playing this game with them for almost a decade now. Chill out.
>>61565570
Delet this
>>61569178
*century
>>61569159
didn't they get their shit kicked in while you were being invaded or some shit?
>>61569092
It's sad that you don't recognize me as one of your own since I hold different opinions. Tells something about your IQ and thought flexibility.
2 - 0
>>61568677
You do realize what you fantasize about has a 0% chance of happening, right? Russia and China are pretty close right now. They can flatten us in a heartbeat.
>>61569159
You had our men fighting for your freedom. The least you could do is not let this manlet threaten us from your country.
Neutrality doesn't mean you get to switch sides when it's convenient for you. Or maybe it does. But don't expect anyone, especially Putin, to respect you for it. He addressed your nation as a province.
>>61569239
>you don't recognize me as one of your own
Because you obviously aren't.
>>61569276
4 - 2
>>61569087
kek
I hope you don't fall for this bait. Finland, arm yourself, have a good army and fight for the interest of your people and no one else. The USA (or NATO, Russia or other country) will gladly sell you for the highest bid.
If you had any idea what the Americans did here during WW2 and in the 1950's...
>>61569002
Thread about Russia & Finland.
Fucking Swedes everywhere.
Go away, you gayplague spreader.
>>61569276
Please no bully kind leaf, please. Let us distract ourselves for a while at least.
>>61569159
uhh... didn't you declare for the nazis, you cunt?
>>61569662
Yes, in the 40's. We're talking modern times here, former EU-bro.
>>61569474
>be Switzerland it's so easy blah blah blah
The whole Switzerland is located in the Alps. They could play hide and seek with the enemy in the mountains for decades. Blowing up bridges, using the valleys to saturate and cut off the enemy, using the mountains for guerilla attacks and a billion other options give them massive tactical leverage.
Finland on the other hand is flat and has a massive land and sea border. It's a gigantic pain in the ass to defend it. Swiss are Swiss for a reason. You can't become them just because you think they are pretty cool.
>Threats again
I guess someone from eu has to try talking. Otherwise it's cold war 2.0: electric boogaloo.
I still like the Russian people very much
>>61563887
I'm going to grad school in Finland this Fall. Should I be worried?
>>61569981
Depends where you go. If you settle anywhere east of Turku you're mostly get run over by Russkies.
>>61569811
Finland is a flat land by the sea, I never thought such thing was possible.
Well, get them all armed anyway. It won't hurt.
>>61569981
Don't be worried. If Finland is the country where you want to live you should be ready to protect it when necessary. They have plenty of guns for everybody. Should you die protecting Finland, then so be it. Just know that the moment when your body embraces its cold, harsh soil and your soul drifts into eternity will be a beautiful one.
>>61570238
Baltic Sea will be a lake in few hundreds of years.
Shit, I mean my parents have a summer cottage at the shore and you can see every spring how the sea has gone another 10m.
>>61570238
They are one of the most armed countries in Europe. They even get their own homespun mass shootings sometimes.
>getting cucked by Russia after winning a war against them
Come on, guys.
>>61570428
>winning a war
We didn't get occupied, but we didn't win the war.
>>61570428
> Welcome Adolf, glad to have you
> Welcome Josef, glad to have you
>>61570595
Welcome Josef?
>>61570620
Kekkonen and Stalin were butt buddies, Tommi
>>61570752
and Mannerheim and Hitler were butt buddies.
What's your point?
