How do Europeans feel about an EU army?
Why would they bother when the US defends them for free?
>>61560529
Why do we even do that anyway? Let them handle their own problems.
>army
why? That day and age is over armies aren't needed.
>>61560529
NATO is a joke.
Have you seen what Russia has been doing lately sending subs into Sweden?
>>61560490
Nobody but G*rmans want G*rm controlled """EU""" army
>>61560602
Trade
It's the same reason we have the most powerful navy in history and only use it to bomb sandniggers
incompetent and useless, just like everything related to the eu ever
>>61560645
t. Muhommad
>>61560647
>lately
>>61560490
Lets not have one.
Each country should have its own army. EU army is not needed.
I dont think it would practically work, due to different lasagnes and shit, but I dont really care realrap
>all these muhamads defending you don't need to have an army only because the US has been covering our asses for the better part of a century.
Thank you based Americans.
I would even defend an obligatory 2-month boot camp for every man and woman aged 18, just to serve as leverage against possible attacks.
Comfort never lasts too long, and Europe is getting weak.
I don't think that's possible for the time being.
It would have to be put to referenda in multiple countries.
>>61560698
EU doesn't have one
>>61560490
I was telling people the Germans were going to try something like this two years ago and they all called me crazy.
FUNNY, ISN'T IT?
>>61560490
>wanting to see Finns or Romanians die in some shithole, because of the whims of Papa Juncker or Mama Merkel
>wanting to see a EU army invading because some country wants to hold a referendum about leaving the EU
>>61560854
I assumed the question was "what would an eu army be like" so I replied with "useless"
Can't wait to start fighting them desu
>>61560852
We can just have our own armies. EU should not even exist anyway. I hope it dies soon.
>>61560784
>lasagnes
lel
What happens when Russia invades Europe? More sanctions?
>>61560941
We let them rape the east, as they have always done.
>>61560852
>300 million people
>thousands of nuclear warheads
>one of the largest economies in the world
>massive military
>still can't beat south-east asian peasants or middle eastern rebels fighting with scraps of stolen technology
i'd rather have an EU army
Ready to enroll and fight the enemies of the union!
Like Britain.
>>61560647
Baltic sea is majority Finnish and Swedish coast, neither is in NATO.
>>61561018
Do want to get bombed again?
>>61560490
I think it's a good idea. We need a strong Europe.
>>61560884
>>wanting to see a EU army invading because some country wants to hold a referendum about leaving the EU
They dont need an army for that.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/665870/eu-military-police-carry-out-extremely-worrying-civil-unrest-crisis-training
>>61560941
>What happens when Russia invades Europe?
We back off because Europe doesn't want a war
>>61561018
>still can't beat south-east asian peasants or middle eastern rebels fighting with scraps of stolen technology
We got tired of bombing them so we pulled out
>>61561031
>>61561065
>>61560852
Everyone note that it is only the shit countries that want an EU army.
There's nothing like giving command over your countries army to people that wouldn't want to defend your country.
Yep.
both usa and russia should fuck off from the north, one is trying to scare us into nato the other is doing fuck i know
build wall across the entire coast
>>61561044
barely noticed it the first time, why not?
the problem with your armies is they made up of 18-year-old kids trying to get college scholarships and survive while keeping their heads low. any slav army would rip you apart, even ours which has two rusty boats and a deficient helicopter
>>61561154
Because the Soviet Union did so well in Afghanistan.
>>61561018
>this meme always from Croatia
>>61561018
That's because their armies rely on numbers instead of strategy and precision. Apart from the SEAL teams and the marines, they are very heh, comparatively.
>>61561134
>France doesn't want to fight
You'd be carrying the ammo for the real men.
>>61561136
Nobody is trying to "scare" you into joining NATO besides Russia.
>>61561193
I would only fight for France. Not for any of your other shit countries.
>>61561135
>Yes, a tactical retreat with a Scorched Earth policy is our best option for saving Germ...uhhh the EU
>Napalm bombing of Poland intensifies
>>61561154
>any slav army would rip you apart
>literally the only success by a slav army in the past 50 years has been in poor ex commie shitholes that couldn't defend themselves
>>61560645
This is the most naive viewpoint I think I've ever seen expressed on this board
>>61561193
>The USA army only relies on numbers
>>61561201
that makes no sense why would russia scare a non nato member into joining nato its counter productive
It's a good idea if done properly.
Current combined EU members spending is probably world record in bang for buck in capabilities sense.
>>61561218
That's funny because that is exactly how it would go.
Festung Warschau to slow down the enemy.
>>61561268
Nobody in the EU but France and the UK can do a serious offensive operation in a country that isnt directly bordering them.
>>61561323
>tfw we will never invade Germany and remove the eternal Merkel
>EU army
>implying I'd be willing to die for slavs
Let's be real it'd only be good against Russia or stupid 3rd world policing but we already have peace keepers and fast response units.
>>61561249
Numbers include number of bombs.
It's not false, mate, you guys have a good army because you are a big country with lots of people willing to fight under the same orders.
Europe would be harder, since most of them wouldn't follow orders from a foreigner.
You have a bunch of good units, I'm not trying to dispute that, but a random sample of 50 men in the american army vs a random sample of any European country wouldn't be tipped your way. Nor the other, really, but you guys aren't that special, pound for pound.
>>61561257
>Sweden
>Expressing political views
KEK. Might as well prep the bull...
>>61561257
So they can continue to play the victim.
>muh evil USA keeps expanding into the Baltic
>scramble more jets, we're being oppressed!
We've already got NATO.
Why would we need NATO Lite ran by homosexuals in Belgium?
>>61561345
The Rhine is France's natural border!
>>61561477
>tfw I will never live in a world with a French Europe
>tfw I have to make due with filthy Germs and Slavshits
>>61561369
If I was in an army I'd be pretty hesitant to backstab a Hungarian army but an EU army I'd sell out in a heartbeat.
>>61561512
spoken like a man who has never been in france.
>>61561323
Yeah, sorry forgot add the poorest bang for buck.
>>61561572
Don't reply to me ever again
>>61560490
We already have our own army, this 4th reich, the UE is a bad idea.
>>61561154
>slav army would rip you apart
Not before commanding officers rip apart the conscript buttholes with their tiny slav dicks
>>61560602
>what is pax americana
US mil isn't even that strong desu
China could probably invade us excluding nukes and other countries
>>61561477
Why do you post our clay (in beige)?
>>61561718
>this meme again
>>61561729
>China could probably invade us excluding nukes and other countrie
"no"
>>61560490
horrible idea
>>61561781
But it's true. We have an entire generation of PC military leadership that has not fought a real war.
Training is also a joke.
>>61561610
yeah, never been to france. the pic might make me seem anti-muslim, but honestly at least these guys aren't french
>>61561853
You are a zerg horde that at the same time has technological advantage. Gay transexual women in uniform wont negate that.
>>61561853
>ignoring that China doesn't have a real command and control structure
>ignoring that they only just started forming a joint command structure
>ignoring that they have to buy their aircraft carriers from Ukraine
OK m8
>>61561409
>>61561442
give me one reason why sweden should join nato other than hurr durr russia is going to conqure us because that isnt happening.
>Might as well prep the bull...
do that you literally want to sell your countrys freedom to anglos, kys traitor cuckboi
>>61562075
>do that you literally want to sell your countrys freedom to anglos, kys traitor cuckboi
Better than selling it to the Russians
>muh 4th reich
What is Said army supposed To protect us from?
Russia? Only a real good goy would fall for that.
I am waiting for NATO To realize it is obsolete and disband.
>>61562113
>american reading comprehension
>>61560490
No, just no
>>61562162
Theres rising instability in the world. And modern armies cant be mustered in a month or two like ye olde feudal shite scented peasants with spears.
But since we have NATO, it would just be redundant and pointless to have a joint EU army.
>>61562162
Nice try Putin.
>>61562187
>Swedish perception of reality
Keep burying your head in the sand, it'll make it easy for Vlad to sodomize you
>>61562075
Your army is a joke, åke
If Funland joins NATO but Sweden doesn't, Russia might want to "secure" their interests on Baltic sea by invading you guys. And they would get nice mines too.
No thank you. Never trust foreigners to defend you.
>>61562295
You know that there's like a 10% chance that he's a real Swede.
>>61562285
>flag
No surprise.
Is the "boogeyman Russia" meme still running in poland?
>>61562340
You're not even in NATO so you literally should just fuck off.
Don't shit your pants because of a solo russian submarine next time though.
>>61562325
>Never trust foreigners to defend you.
What about the Americans on your soil?
>>61562325
Peacekeeper babies
>>61562421
Americans would never fight for us if Russia actually started a war. It is all for show.
>>61562328
americans probably aren't aware of the swede situation. notice he didn't make an allah joke
>>61562340
It's funny how Swedish parliamentarian said while they were in Finland that our president shouldn't meet with Putin because Krim. That we should ignore him and cut out all the connections with russians.
>>61561227
but every slav country is a poor ex commie shithole so what does that prove? at best we're on even terms.
>>61562452
I didn't make "le Swedes are muslims" joke because it's overdone
>>61560490
Needed
>>61561781
How is it a meme
>>61562571
that's not a joke you make because it's funny or original. it's a joke you make because it must be made. respect european culture when speaking with europeans my man
>The hairy frog is also notable in possessing retractable "claws" (though unlike true claws, they are made of bone, not keratin), which it may project through the skin, apparently by intentionally BREAKING THE BONES of the toe.
wtf lads
>>61562479
Russia isn't a threat because they have no interest in attacking the West directly. They'll continue to attack ex commie shitholes because they can actually win those fights
>>61562685
America fucked with the South Americans and Southeast Asians during the Cold War and beyond and we're fucking up the ME as we speak. We're financing groups that are supposed to be our enemies because we're America and we do what we want
The Pax Americana only really applies to the great powers
>>61561257
Russian political stability is maintained by having an external threat for the population to unite against.
>>61562968
Thats not exceptional to Russia though. And since they are poor, they cant afford to attack faraway countries.
>>61562727
What does an Ottoman shitskin like you know of European culture?
>>61562295
switzerland has been neutral for ages so has sweden.
we do not border russia either, and no they wont attack gotland thats just absurd they attacked crimea cause they had a puppet regime there before the maidan & a military base.
they have nothing to do with gotland, and fact is the country that started most wars in the last 50 years is usa. so no usa are clearly not the good goys they want to be seen as and neither is russia.swedish nato shills or /pol/ack praising putinboos are dumb af and fall for propaganda easier than children do.
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if you love your country vote sd2018 and stop sucking of anglo ruskie dick
>>61562328
t. germanrapebaby
>>61563091
how to maintain composure when people are being meanies on the internet. also come on, at least mine is factually accurate. if you want to insult me go with "serb rape babies".
>>61562914
true enough. but why are you proud of that? i mean without all those billions going to the military maybe illinois could afford to open public schools this year for example
>>61560941
Russian tanks and armored vehicles actually doesn't pass European emission limits and can't operate on European roads and highways, so we are pretty safe.
>>61560490
bad
I'm leaving Europe if the EU doesn't fall apart
>>61560490
Most European countries can't even maintain their minimum commitment to NATO, this will be a disaster.
>>61563528
Our quality """roads""" and """"""""highways"""""""" are our very best defense.
>mfw they use an EU army to annex the UK
>>61563597
Most European countries don't have to because the US bankrolls their military for them
>>61563709
Only if Corbin dismantles your nuclear program lel.
>>61563786
If Corbyn doesn't step down then Labour will split up and the Corbynites will become irrelevant.
>>61560490
10/10 would join
p.s. gibe citizenship plz
>>61563479
>at least mine is factually accurate. if you want to insult me go with "serb rape babies".
Why? One middle eastern tribe is much like another, so why would you be offended if I claimed your specific kind of shitskin had been raped by the shitskins next door?
>>61563819
Yeah, I read something like that on the BBC app.
Lots of changes in your parties after the referendum.
>>61563854
It's fucking great desu, even if our country is doomed the political and economical turmoil is fascinating.
>>61561154
belief in a reconquered constaninople and slavic might won't count for shit when you get roasted alive by napalm my bydlo friend.
>>61563880
Has Boris committed sudoku yet?
>>61560529
Fuck off I don't want to do it for free, the Euros better start fucking paying us or we should shed them from NATO, forcing them to pay for their own army.
Britain and Poland can stay though, they actually don't act like complete asses
>>61561154
Mate, slavs suck at war. A slav army needs to outnumber a western army by at least 2:1 to even stand a chance.
>>61560490
Is financed, organized, equipped and manned by USA? If not, I rather stay in NATO.
>>61560490
France and the UK have been driving the development of the ESDP (EU military) since the end of the Cold War.
France has always been desperate to expand it into an autonomous EU military capability, but the UK has staunchly blocked and prevented this at every turn, making sure that the ESDP remains part of (and compatible with) NATO.
Now that the UK has gone the EU should expect a military capability within the decade.
>>61563839
its funny coming from a scandinavian.
>>61560677
Because you can't afford to fight anyone atleast semi-competent?
>>61563935
No, he's probably left the country desu
>>61563951
You seriously believe you do it out of the goodness of your red white and blue hearts?
>>61563880
>mfw new live episodes of Yes, Minister in every evening news.
>>61564055
Now where did you get that silly idea from
It would be hilarious to make the EU pay for their own defense. Once Lord Trump signs a blood oath with Czar Putin we can watch the EU crumble from a massive increase of defense budget.
>>61564069
Political sudoku is almost as good.
>>61560529
>>61560602
But that has some plus sides for USA
yes, US is defending people for "free", but also ensuring that no one has an army large enough to oppose US if need be
>>61563839
christ Ahmed, i know you want a global islamic caliphate and all, but you're going off the rails. do you not understand how insults work? they sting when they're either true or half-true, you can't just mumble nonsense and expect people to be offended. would you be so mad if sweden wasn't under an islamic invasion? no. but if i had said "lol sweden you're basically slovenia" you'd scratch your head in confusion. anyway, stay salty bro. gotta go, it's 22:30 here. that means jap tourists coming to Bačvice
>>61561018
in their defense, its a tough war
they are not fighting a nation, they are against terrorist groups, they merge with the population (that US doesnt like to kill that much) of weak countries
>>61561077
>We got tired of bombing them so we pulled out
You couldn't break them even with the best military in the world you fat fuck. Literal villagers with shitty guns and you still have to pretend like America hasbtbbeen on the decline for decades.
And you didnt get tired, your country (both times) got sick of the fact that you weren't winning indecisively so you pulled out. The American people for all thief bravado are pathetically weak.
>>61564332
Pulling out was the smart thing to be honest. They shouldnt have went in in the first place.
There was nothing to be gained.
>>61564332
shitposting is all fun and games aussie but when the australians went to war alone, they lost to a bunch of flightless birds.
>>61561018
>this b8
We're not fighting a nation but zealous groups of terrorists who are like cockroaches and know how to blend into the civilian population (who we don't want to kill). We "lose" when we decide that we're tired of trying to find all the cockroaches to kill. You don't win in a war of ideology you only win when one side gives up.
>>61561867
What did he mean by this?
>>61564231
I know that you think your tribe is very different from the other shitskin tribes of the area, but for outsiders it's pretty hard to tell you apart. Yugos, turks, arabs, berbers and other sand niggers are all known colloquially as "turks" over here.
>>61564555
Pro-tip: Don't start fights you can't finish.
>>61564674
Should have learned from their parents' mistakes.
>>61564718
>2nd and 3rd anglo afghan wars pacify the warlords for the most part
>Muh afghans were badass meme
its an ultimate cop out for losing to barbarous tribemonkeys. The brits should just have let ranjit singh slowly use his C&C strat of turtling along the border to subjugate the afghans.
>>61564165
>Lord Trump
>Czar Putin
*cringe*
>>61560490
It's illegal.
>>61564718
or the Soviet's, more like
>>61564555
>who we don't want to kill
>>61560490
>EU army
>Italians included
welp, you don't mind losing, do you?
>>61564847
Ive read a soviet memoir or two of their war with the Afghans. They were fairly impressed with the insurgents. The Afghan gov forces on the other hand were complete retards, so its just like nowadays.
>>61560490
>>61560647
>NATO is a joke.
This
Every EU country should send 1k of soldiers per every 1 milion of population of this country.
Or spending 2-3% of PKB for eu army.
Also we need EU border defend group with stuff like on pic.
>>61563528
Because emission limits did a real nice job of keeping Volkswagens off the roads.
>>61560490
>EU army
Why would we want an army that invades Poland, switches sides and then promptly surrenders?
Am I actually European?
>>61565085
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36112333
>VW more than doubles emissions bill to €16.2bn
Thats some serious dosh.
>>61565095
yes
>>61560490
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>61565095
>>61565147
>European identity
>>61565091
>Why would we want an army that invades Poland, switches sides and then promptly surrenders?
Fucking kek
pointless seeing as we're leaving
>>61565060
paranoid poles.
>>61560529
It's a new meme?
>>61565006
>welp, you don't mind losing, do you?
We are used to it by now.
>>61565095
>Am I actually European?
Yes?
>>61560490
I for one support the creation of an EU army. The sooner shit like this is done the sooner we can form a new HRE.
>>61560490
Retarded shit that will be absused by the butthurt belt for Anti-Russian activities and the French for their African colonies. Other than them no one gains anything.
>>61561477
Excuse me but this is wrong
I don't think Europeans even need an army.
They should instead use their economic might to threaten the shit out of others.
But they can't even agree to that. The US basically had to force them to put sanctions on Russia.
The EU sanctions then crushed Russia's economy in a matter of weeks/months.
I don't want a single British man to ever die for the EU. The only reason for war now is justified defense of British peoples and land or all out WW3, in which case we're all dead anyway.
>>61561134
For someone who is leaving Euro 2016 this sunday, you talk allot of shit.
