What's the most tragic event to happen in your country in the last 25 years?
Secession of the South and your mom's departure
Voting leave
WC 2014
3.11
refugee crisis
last place at Eurovision 2010
Someone broke a collarbone, in Lublin I think.
Caused by man
>Port Arthur Massacre
Caused by nature
>Black Saturday Fires
>Heatwave that caused the Black Saturday fires.
Independence.
>>61509738
I think you can do better than that sweden. Be honest now.
my birth
>>61509876
NATIONAL SORRY DAY
My parents coming to Germany
>am greek though :^)
>>61510190
idk Sweden is very peaceful we didn't have a mass shooting/terrorist attack in 100 years so yeah
>>61509542
the creation of 4chan
>>61509789
lol no
try the complete economic meltdown of early 90's
>The depression of 1991-1993 had a deep effect on the economy of Finland throughout the 1990s, especially in terms of employment but also in culture, politics and the general sociopolitical atmosphere. During this period the gross national product decreased 13% and the unemployment rose to 18.9% from 3.5%. Since then, despite overall recovery, the unemployment has been persistent, and Finland has never returned to the state of near full employment that existed before the crisis.
moslems
The bush presidency.
Both of them.
>>61510255
idk man, words are cheap and if it makes them feel better I'm fine with it.
1994 world cup final
>>61510309
Be honest now... pls sweden
>>61510621
I give you a pro tip.
Starts with M
>>61509542
Shooting of a sikh temple was the worst desu
>>61510661
Matriarchy
>>61509612
Do you think the Olympics will be a bigger trainwreck?
>>61509542
EVERYTHING
>>61509590
>>61510345
Why is this tragic?
>>61509542
Nothing
Constant progress and development in every field of average Polack's life reporting in
feels good man
>>61510371
>Both of them.
The old man was good you turd. He had to deal with the fallout of Reaganomics economically while still completing a quick low damage military campaign.
>>61510698
close enough
>>61510751
What happened to her?
>>61510213
underage b&
>>61509542
Fukushima.I can't eat fish any more.
>>61510903
Didn't they also grow a lot of vegetables in the region?
>>61509876
>a heatwave causes a fire
thats fucked up, do people live where the fire happened? how hot is it there?
>>61510975
there is a lot of radiation vegetables in super market.
>>61510903
>>61511060
sounds nice.
So what is it... 3 nukes now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Rugby_World_Cup
>>61510346
>Basques
ftfy
>>61511147
yes.
>>61509542
kekxit
the rise of UKIP
>>61511316
ukip was good. but you left at the worst time desu.
Poor cameron lmao, worked his ass off to have killer deals with the EU now it's over.
Thanks, Swedes.
>>61511156
>>61510850
God's finger touched her, she was candidate for president of Bolan
>>61511438
DELET THIS
Our last 4 goverments were the biggest tragedies.
>>61511427
ur country is rightful swedish clay
>>61511610
Come and claim it you little bitch.
reunification
>>61511542
Non
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Rugby_World_Cup
>>61511634
DELET DELET DELET DELET
Obama
>>61511623
u mad ivan?
>>61511668
>Anglo country
>Beat by frogs
>At a sport Anglos invented.
>>61510309
Palme is probably the worst but that was 30 years ago
Fall of USSR
The United States of America gin laws
>>61509542
joining the euro-zone
President, army generals, MPs getting BTFO in plane crash. But it was more embarassing than tragic
>>61511427
>implying it wasn't russian conspiracy
Probably the Parliament shooting.
>>61510999
nice trips
>>61509542
Joining EU
>>61510213
same
>>61513517
>embarrasing
Entertaining
>>61509542
pic related
![hqdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jt87Iue.jpg "hqdefault[1].jpg")
>>61509542
The Good Friday Agreement.
Electing Obama
This guy.
>>61509542
concordat and giving the church "their" fortune back
forced occupation since 1947
there have been plenty of massacres since '89 (dozens of people shot dead every now and then has been routine)
Trump.
1. 2002 Bali Bombings (not in my country but 88 Australians died so I'm including it)
2. Port Arthur Massacre
3. 2009 bushfires
4. 2010-11 SEQ floods
5. Tony Abbott being elected head of the Liberals over Turnbull and then winning the election
6. John Howard being re-elected in 2004
7. ?
>>61510999
Heatwave caused conditions suitable for fires. There were many and arson certainly played a part. In Victoria it gets very hot. These are the temperatures leading up to the bushfires.
Yeah people live near the affected regions, many dumb fucks were too stubborn to leave their homes and it cost them their lives
>>61514218
also that's Melbourne, it's usually hotter in rural communities
>>61513993
t. Punjab?
>>61511427
But it was 500 swedes dead and it sunk closest to finnish waters, how is this even estonian tragedy apart from having your piss poor crew in it?
>>61510314
din ding ding
we have a winner
thread should have ended here desu
>>61511392
We were about to get special treatment on top of existing special treatment.
We're fucking retarded obviously.
>vote to leave
>no plan, no pm, no opposition no new investments into the country
>>61511853
>England invents football and rugby
>proceeds to suck at both except one time half a century ago
>>61513424
You mean joining the very currency that is more than anything else responsible for your economic prosperity?
>>61514914
>economic prosperity
where?
>>61509542
post-communist privatization
>>61515704
post-communism is pre-communism
>>61515917
post-life is pre-life
>>61515978
>t. hindu
>>61516050
I meant non-existence t b h
>>61516058
tragic != embarrassing
>>61509542
Fall of communism
>>61509542
I can't decide. There is a lot to choose from.
>>61509542
Brexit
>>61516229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joTgD5UJvtA
CAN YOU NOT HEAR THE SCREAMS?!
> 9/11
> tragic
It is kind of sad when an elite of a country decides to kill its own citizens indeed, but i wouldn't call it "tragic", more like embarrasing
>>61511853
>America isn't an Anglo country
>>61509560
You got rid of the half with the most niggers. How is that a bad thing?
11M
>>61513713
Lac Megantic is above that in actual damage caused/loss of life, but you're right in that it's the closest thing Canada has had to a 9/11.
>>61516408
It isn't. It's nigger country.
>>61509542
Americans, muslims, muslim supporting Americans.
It's gotta be the Fort Mac fires, Megantic, or the Parliament Hill attack.
>>61510703
Naah.
It will be ok.
>>61509650
investigate 311
dunno there's been tons of fucked up shit
probably chechen wars
Political correctness.
>>61509542
http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2010053111765609_uu.shtml
>>61516829
And i guess joining the EU in 1995 is also pretty bad.
>>61516555
Oh yea, definitely. Was on the news for almost a month and damage/casualties was huge.
>>61513777
no you
>>61509876
Steve Irwin's death
>>61516633
The Ice Storm of 98 is also up there
>>61509542
90s depression.
Even as a kid I noticed things were fucked up.
And things have to go REALLY wrong before a 9 year old kid notices something is off.
>>61517008
What seemed off to you?
Not that I'm asking because I'm worried about our future.
>>61510747
It isn't
Can't wait for the EU to fail desu
Thanks, Americlaps.
Chernobyl
30 years ago
The burning in Kindergarten "ABC" Sonora, 49 children died and 106 were injured, all aged between five months and five years old.
>>61509650
Windows 10 is way worse than Windows 3.11
>>61517404
no problem, enjoy your freedom!
>>61517195
The amount of people in breadlines and drunks on the streets.
My friends not being able to afford simple things football gear or having to move because they couldn't afford their house anymore.
Schools having to shutdown special clubs (like football, chess and floorball) and limiting language studies (I had to switch from studying German to studying English due to budget cuts).
My parents struggling to pay the bills (due to my mother being laid off) and the general feeling of despair from the adults in my life.
It wasn't very dramatic but there was a constant feeling of worry about the future and coping.
Though this might have been because I'm from a working class background so the problems of the depression manifested themselves more frequently in my neighborhood.
Eschede derailment, 1998
Probably not the most, but still...
>>61509542
Pic 100% related
Might be this. Though good will come out of it, eventually.
>>61517673
like what?
>>61517673
why would someone sleep in a concert hall????
not being communist anymore
>>61517642
OH SHIT
WADDUP
>>61517706
People waking up, voting Nationalist, resisting the Muslim invasion.
>>61517802
explain colours
>>61517547
I'm looking forward to this.
>>61517802
Also, these results are from before the November attacks, and obviously the killing of the two cops in their own home recently.
>>61517802
Think Marine has a chance?
One guy got a container or something on his head and died
>>61517840
Oh, right.
Green is ecologists.
Red is far left
Pink is socialists (darker pink in 2010 was a split in the party)
Blue is conservatives
Dark blue is nationalists
Orange is regionalists
Though that was the first round, in the second round all the other parties allied against the nationalists, destroying their credibilityand proving the nationalists point that they were all the same party anyway in the process.
>>61517889
I don't know. She will definitely at least get to the second round, probably get at least 40%. But all the other parties will again ally against her. But with attacks, she still might win.
>>61517942
R A R E ?
A
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>>61518543
SUMMER ?
U
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M
E
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>>61518638
kek
MH17
Thanks Putin
>>61518543
We only show up when we have enough whale oil to fuel our generators so we can browse these internets
>>61519221
top kek
>>61510257
t. Turk
>>61519221
This sucking lips guy is leading the country for another 4 years
fucking actor he will ruin us with shit populist tactics
not having seceded yet
Probably this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege
This satanic traitor was elected.
>>61517802
I thought France was the empire of 5 continents. Why aren't your other lands shown on this map?
>our most tragic event was a sport
Right, because nothing bad ever happens in GODZONE amirite
>in the last 25 years
We have a tragic event every 25 days more or less
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/30/13-year-old-israeli-girl-stabbed-to-death-in-her-bedroom/
>>61513865
This, though MH17 was pretty tragic too.
>>61523315
They voted socialist.
>>61523328
recognize Palestine and it'll all stop ;)
>>61523730
That's not what they want though
I guess the 7/7 bombings just pipped the Lockerbie Bombings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
>>61524623
start by doing that and not blocking people in the Gaza strip. you've made it like Auschwitz.
The assassination of Pim Fortuyn.
>>61524880
Appeasement to Arabs never worked and never will, we left Gaza and let them have full control over it and they instead of starting to invest in infrastructure and any kind of improvement they just build tunnels and stockpile on weapons.
>>61525523
the tunnels were built to go around your blockade. if you didn't impose your blockade they wouldn't have tunnels to trade weapons with.
>>61525625
The blockade is to prevent them getting any form of advanced weapons which they clearly still try to get
The free movement of workers treaty with the European Union.
>>61516058
>>61513865
>>61519001
>>61523484
>>61525002
all under 18.
most tragic was this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster
>>61525774
so you honestly believe they started building tunnels to get weapons instead of food? don't you think the weapons trade in the tunnels started after that to finance the food trade/building of new tunnels?
>>61510153
>>61510345
>>61510371
>>61510813
>>61511316
>>61511427
>>61511604
>>61511625
>>61512265
>>61513940
>>61515704
>>61516265
>>61515917
>>61517404
>>61517802
Whats with the commie population of this thread?
>>61525933
they are not starving. it's not africa. they don't live in bad conditions. also they recieve a lot of donations
>>61525906
Dank je Tukker, maar nee...
Nice explosion though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_etfXcbguZw
Chicanos and PRI
>>61526066
how? they are subject to a blockade.
>>61526040
the french anon is saying it's a good thing to come from the negative of the muslim attack mate
>>61526147
they produce. There are cities and many people. Also they have their own government. The blockade is for weapons and stuff. If a ship comes with food or raw material Israel doesn't block it, just checks.
>>61526292
>There was little or no improvement in food insecurity rates in Gaza which continued to affect 52% of the population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip#Humanitarian_impact_assessment
it doesn't seem as "human" as you say
>>61526147
We give them most of the stuff they need
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpolicy/peace/humanitarian/pages/default.aspx
>>61526100
I was at Bad Bentheim on that day. I remember the mighty black cloud over Enschede. It was frightening.
>>61526468
why should I believe your government when there's plenty of NGOs and even the UN condemning your illegal blockade and its humanitarian consequences?
>>61510734
7-0
>>61526454
Dude, that's not true, even Israel gives them food and enectricity for free
>>61526637
doing something good doesn't cancel their wrong
>>61526562
Because that is true and doesn't contradict condemnation.
http://www.bicom.org.uk/news/israel-increase-electricity-supply-gaza-strip/
>>61526752
if you really believe you are doing them good, you are either a fool or a bad person.
>>61526746
And having a blocked and control over territory doesn't justify murdering a 13 year old girl in her bedroom
>>61526859
it doesn't justify it, but it's what causes it.
by continuing to do what you're doing, nothing good is gonna come out of it
>David Cameron, the UK Prime Minister, during Prime Minister's Questions, stated that "Friends of Israel – and I count myself a friend of Israel – should be saying to the Israelis that the blockade actually strengthens Hamas's grip on the economy and on Gaza, and it's in their own interests to lift it and allow these vital supplies to get through."
>>61509542
WC 2014 and EURO 2016
This whole circus, probably.
Also, losing that match to Portugal.
>>61526746
What's the solution then? The Gaza peolple voted for a terrorist group to govern them, which uses the money for making and buying missiles. Without the blockade it would be 500 times worse, what would you do if you're Israel? Let them kill your citizens?
2009 L'Aquila eartquake, 308 deaths.
If you go back to 1963, Vajont Dam disaster, more than 2000 deaths.
OIF and occupation was arguably even worse than 9/11. Although 9/11 really got the ball rolling.
>>61526941
Nothing justifies such a crime and no cause is great enough, would you feel empathy to a man who murdered the son a banker because his house was taken by the bank due to debt?
>>61526941
They started with these attacks since the beginning. The blockade is to stop them, not the cause.
Well. This, I guess.
>>61527084
I wouldn't feel empathy for him, but I'd question why he did that. If I noticed something was wrong with our laws regarding mortgages, I'd push for a review of said laws.
>>61527034
>implying they don't have the best defense in the whole world
>>61527114
they need to stop the blockade and recognize the Palestinian Territories as an independent state.
>>61526040
We're redpilled
Fuck, didn't see the "last 25 years" part. Siege of Vukovar than, probably, exactly 25 years ago, and the rest of the war.
>>61527255
This pic is so terrible and so awesome at the same time
>>61526040
My feelings are true.
>>61527084
Your country should not exist, period.
>>61527200
Do you think having the best defense is just a coincidence? Israelis had to build it because of the attacks. It didn't stopped them, but at least it reduced some. The blockade also reduces some others.
What can they do? Would you just let them kill your people? If they stopped attacking the blockade woulnd't be neccesary.
I agree that they should be an independent state but with this situation i understand why israel doesn't do it.
>>61509590
edgy
>>61527200
I wouldn't question anything in that case, someone who even considers murdering a child on purpose should end up being shot and if he came from a certain community that encourages this kind of behavior then the entire community should be looked with suspicion on the highest level.
And just because we have great defense doesn't mean we need to allow them to arm and target us, not to mention waste resources on defense because they exist.
>>61509542
beaner onslaught
>>61527411
Why souldn't it?
It hasn't happened yet, but at some point someone will grant amnesty to the Calais illegals.
>>61527430
>>61527448
are you seriously so retarded as not to seeing why the Palestinians turn violent?
I just wanna point out there are 2 italians here now
he's the new one >>61527411
but he makes a good argument as harsh as it sounds
>>61527255
That's quite the kot.
Shame about the whole Milosevic thing.
The death of Pim Fortuyn
>>61527034
>What's the solution then?
kill em all
>>61525906
Who cares about Enschede. Fortuyn was the saviour we needed, but didn't deserve.
>>61527448
>and if he came from a certain community that encourages this kind of behavior then the entire community should be looked with suspicion on the highest level
the same argument that Hitler made against the Jews.
I hope you do realize that.
>>61527739
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uashk15pDnI
RIP
>>61527535
But he's making argentina great again!
>>61527616
They didn't "turn" violent with the blockade.
The violence started from them with the plan of partition of the british palestina territory. Before that, jews and arabs from palestina were fine there, but arab palestinians couldn't tolerate the idea of a jewish state there. That's why they didn't accept in 1948 the half-half partition and the jews did.
>>61527616
Nothing justifies and reasonably explains violence against civilians, thought you would understand this by now with all the attacks in Europe.
>>61527753
Hitler used this against half of Europe when Germany faced zero kind of danger
>>61527816
he will destroy the country
>>61527898
Fair to say he's not dirt-free, but he's an upgrade over what you had previously.
>>61527616
Are you seriously that retarded to understand that the blockade exists because the Palestinians are violent and not the other way around? It wasn't always there
>>61527975
To me they are equally shitty. Of course in totally different ways, but i don't like one more than the other.
>>61527848
>That's why they didn't accept in 1948 the half-half partition and the jews did.
no wonder the jews accepted it, free land stolen from somebody else! hurrah!
>>61527883
>the attacks in Europe.
the attacks in Europe are partly caused by the extreme right parties. and the attacks fuel the extreme right parties in turn. it's a never-ending losing cycle for everybody.
>>61528007
great. what has it done to ease or remove the conflict? nothing! it increased it! what an amazing idea to continue in the same way
>>61527975
>an upgrade to what you had previously
Do you have any fucking idea how much the Kirchner helped the country in contrast to Macri?
Everything Macri did until now is being a liberal faggot and letting businesses go apeshit with prices. The only good outcome of this is Argentina realizing how much they need socialism and considering a PCA presidency.
>>61527753
>the same argument that Hitler made against the Jews.
It is the same argument Hitler made against the Jews, and the reason it worked so well to sway the public opinion in Germany is because there were grains of truth in it. The argument logically makes sense, just not as directed at the Jews living in Europe at the time.
Palestinians, on the other hand, are literally a militant society with no goal aside from the eradication of Jews from that geographic region.
Pretending that Palestinians are generally a peaceful people is lying to yourself and other:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJkxOF9QqEk
>>61528094
> the attacks in Europe are partly caused by the extreme right parties
Literally how? And what makes them "far right"? Wanting stronger birder control?
>>61528217
>stronger birder control
I too think that ornithologists have had free reign for far too long.
>>61528094
Stolen from whom? They were from the UK and with the partition plan they were going to be half from arabs and half from jews.
What makes the arab palestinians deserve it more than the jews?
If you think that the jews don't come from there, i remind you that they were from there before the palestinians even existed, then were expelled and some had to go to europe (ashkenazim) and the rest though middle east and north africa. What's wrong going back home?
>>61528346
>What's wrong going back home?
if 1000+ years go by, it's not your home anymore.
how would you feel if tomorrow all of spain claimed your country back?
>>61528256
>>61528217
I'd argue that this is one of the reasons why the current left/right political axis doesnt really work anymore. It's based on the ideological split of bigger vs smaller government, but that doesn't really describe the political cleavage of most democracies anymore.
>>61528462
Spain origin isn't here. A comparison would be if all the spanish people were now expelled from their country by France (for example) and had to go to russia for hundreds of yeras but preserving their spanish identity. They would have the right to come back.
>>61528462
You should probably read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_conquest
The residents may not be happy about it, but the conquerors are not wrong.
>>61528700
>[..] saw the progressive dismantling of this principle.
>>61528797
>Proponents state that this right acknowledges the status quo, and that denial of the right is meaningless unless one is able and willing to use military force to deny it.
It exists whether you want it to or not.
>>61528902
the fact that it exists doesn't make it right or moral
![55e461e9948d1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kRXv9lG.jpg "55e461e9948d1[1].jpg")
literally me I was an accident
Electing another Trudeau
The earthquake of april 16
>>61529171
If the Native Americans wanted to do away with the US, and were even willing to use violent means to establish their own country here, and even went so far as to favor deportation of any people of non-Native descent, would you support them?
>>61529809
of course not. they long lost their claim to your territories. now they live in their reservoirs and whatnot, which also happen to be largely independent from the US laws.
>>61527789
Damn
>>61525906
I remember my brother and I drawing when the news got in
>>61519001
>>61523484
But this was probably the most tragic one. Fuck I felt pretty depressed for the whole week and the people around me too
>>61529944
In the beginning, though, they did resist. There was much friction for a long time between the US and the native populations.
For how long must the conquered people succumb to their conquerors for in order that they lose "their claim to your territories"?
Also,
>they live in their reservoirs and whatnot
>largely independent from the US laws
Wow just like the West Bank and Gaza, how weird.
>>61530361
>Wow just like the West Bank and Gaza, how weird.
that's not like it. they set their own rules and laws, the US doesn't force anything major on them.
>how long
I can tell you that in Italy if you occupy a house for 20 years, you are legally the owner, and the original owner loses its claim to that house. 20 years is a generation, more or less.
>>61510999
>thats fucked up, do people live where the fire happened?
Yeah, burnt down a lot of my town.. Was about 1km from my house
joining the EU
>>61530519
>I can tell you that in Italy if you occupy a house for 20 years, you are legally the owner, and the original owner loses its claim to that house. 20 years is a generation, more or less.
So, how long must Israel exist as a sovereign nation until they are the official owners of that land? Because they're going on 70 years.
>>61509542
Panda, planes, current admin
>>61531311
I didn't say Israel should give them back the proper Israelian territories.
I said Israel should renounce its claim to the Gaza Strip and the other Palestinian territories, recognize its sovereignty, and gradually decrease the blockade. For example, only allow commercial trade with some states, and initially only Israel perhaps.
Erdogan's and Muslims' coming to power
>>61531494
>I didn't say Israel should give them back the proper Israelian territories
The way Israel sees it, all of that land is theirs. The West Bank was Jordan's turf from 1948 until 1967, when Israel annexed it.
>Israel should renounce its claim to the Gaza Strip and the other Palestinian territories
Again, as they see it, there are no "Palestinian Territories." And in terms of "renouncing its claim to the Gaza Strip," been there, done that. After the Israeli withdrawal in 2005 the Oslo Accords give the Palestinian Authority administrative authority in the Gaza Strip. The Rafah Border Crossing has been supervised by EU Border Assistance Mission Rafah under an agreement finalized in November 2005. The Oslo Accord permits Israel to control the airspace and sea space.
>recognize its sovereignty
Israel recognizes Gaza, since they officially gave that land away to the Palestinians, but there is not other state or country there for them to acknowledge. No other exists, and they have no interest in a two-state-solution.
>only allow commercial trade with some states, and initially only Israel perhaps
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip#Economy
>The economy of the Gaza Strip improved in 2011, with a drop in unemployment and an increase in GDP. New malls opened and local industry began to develop. This economic upswing has led to the construction of hotels and a rise in the import of cars. Wide-scale development has been made possible by the unhindered movement of goods into Gaza through the Kerem Shalom Crossing and tunnels between the Gaza Strip and Egypt. The current rate of trucks entering Gaza through Kerem Shalom is 250 trucks per day. The increase in building activity has led to a shortage of construction workers.
>In 2012, Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar said that Gaza's economic situation has improved and Gaza has become self-reliant "in several aspects except petroleum and electricity" despite Israel's blockade.
