Seriously?
they really think they are special
>expat not immigrant thank you very much
>>61506449
British mentality
suck it continentals
>>61506449
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
"”””””””””””””””british""""""""""""""" """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""gentlemen"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Classic british entitled scum. Give back the gold we stole.
That's cute :3
>>61506449
they took err jerbs
>>61508703
>"Give back the gold we stole"
Isn't that a common argument used for sunken Spanish galleons?
>>61506449
Cherrypickers with double standards. Nigel Farage is fiercely anti-EU and yet sits in the EU parliament and collects EU money.
>>61506449
The UK has the right to tell immigrants to fuck off
>>61506449
We enrich every country we go to.
People want us to come.
It's not for our benefit, it's for yours.
>>61506449
I am really glad these special snowflakes are out of EU
Their sense of entitlement is really unbelievable
It's the same everywhere. The amount of illegal British immigrants and tourists in Australia is staggering - taking many cash-in-hand jobs and pushing Aussies out of unqualified jobs especially in the food service industry. Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
>>61510073
It's not hypocrisy.
>>61510073
they view you as criminal colonial scum
from british point of view, it would make no sense to treat australians as equals
>>61506449
The UK has saved all of Europe on 3 separate occasions. How about you guys show some fucking respect and a little gratitude.
>>61510174
These dickheads essentially Mexican us, working jobs that Australian youth would otherwise take by undercutting them by a few dollars. Their tantrum about EU migrants taking their jobs is hysterical considering they have a large active, technically illegal, working presence here.
>>61510198
I agree. Anecdotally both my mother and father have worked with British businessmen and CEOs who've come to Australia and they swear that there is an element of that.
They definitely treat us as their colony still.
>>61510303
>>61510336
You're a shitty nation that deserves to be cucked because you shit up our site. Go get bitten by a spider or something.
>>61506449
kek
>>61510303
>The UK has saved all of Europe on 3 separate occasions
what on earth did he mean by this?
>>61510374
I'm more likely to get hit by a car than bit by the wildlife and die. Can you show me how to paint a Chevy fender red, Ameribro?
>>61506449
>Taking british people seriously
after this thing, they became the ultimate joke for me
>>61506449
shaking my head to be honest family
>>61510025
Brits are china tier tourists. Drunk animals
>>61509894
Not as cute as you pole.
Now please clean my loo?
Also nothing wrong with that chart at all.>>61509894
>>61510405
Napoleon, WII, WWII
It's only because of them you aren't speaking French, German, or Russian right now.
>>61510342
>>61510405
>>61510426
>>61510429
The UK is the 2nd most important country after the US.
>>61506449
Do you understand now why we didn't want brits to join the EU in the first place ? You all should've trust us, we know them well, very well. I can't even criticize them, they're just being themselves
>>61510452
Much to his chargrin, d'accord
>>61510450
>Now please clean my loo?
Didn't you vote exit to avoid that kind of thing? Go get a chav to do it.
>>61510473
t. Nigel Cockburne
>>61510450
Don't wanna curb your enthusiasm but non-europeans should stay in their non-european threads :3
Fuck off to /mena/ or /desi/ crooked teeth cunt ;3
>>61510303
napoleon removed the inbred royalties
france won ww1
russia won ww2
bongs did nothing for yurop, you bootlicking colonial
>>61510452
Instead we get to speak english
And not because of the UK but because of america
Oh joy
>>61510452
>Napoleon
Russia
>WWI
Russia & France
>WWII
Soviet Union
>>61510486
I voted remain I hate chavs.
Poles are 10/10 funny lads, good sense of humour and are strong to do hands on work unlike little English lads who try and snach my wallet.
>>61510303
You mean ruined Europe on 3 separate occasions.
>>61506449
kek
Though that phrasing is really dodgy and designed to induce that response. If you phrased it as EU citizens should be free to live and work in the UK, or as British people should have the right to live and work in the EU, there would be a different reaction.
You'd still have a hypocritical skew thanks to exceptionalist retards, but everywhere suffers from a layer of idiocy at the bottom.
>>61510503
I could buy all of Poland for £20 and when I do you will be the first to do mandatory work on my loo.
>>61510303
>implying defeating Napoleon didn't ruin Europe
>>61510530
Like I said, you'd be speaking Russian if not for the British stopping the soviet union at berlin.
>>61510573
and its not like its an official poll anyway
>>61510595
Well you should have gotten that fag out of your mouth and spoken clearer you mangy cunt how the fucks anyone supposed to know you were talking about that perinstance
>>61510553
Your contribution to WWII cannot be overlooked, for sure.
>>61510595
>Soviets did all the heavy lifting
>Britain delayed opening a second front for max Soviet casualties
>show up conveniently after Hitler is kill and Germany is annihilated
>y-y-yeah, we saved you guys, d-d-don't you forget it!!!!
>>61510575
so what stops him from drowning you in the toilet?
>>61510575
That's just stupid. Not even banter, just stupid.
Did brexit destroy the "famous british banter" as well? Are Australians the onlyanglos left that can banter?
>>61510667
Soviet Union would have pushed all the way to the Atlantic if it had its way.
>>61510690
The answer was yes well before Brexit, my friend.
>>61510696
Perhaps, but it was America that stopped that from happening, not the UK. After that the UK fell into irrelevance and economic downturn.
>>61510452
Instead we are speaking english.
>>61510690
yes
>>61510689
I'm working on that part.
>>61510303
In WWI the Axis weren't the bad guys at all.
WWII was a good job but on the other hand the allies were dicks so they've got themselves to blame for an aggressive Germany, plus had they stood by Poland together with the other nations they could have ended it much quicker.
The other one is Napoleon? Well I supposse that's something good.
>>61510690
I'm a broken man.
I've given up trying to make jokes or quality banter just giving into the pure shitposting.
>>61510595
Those were the americans.
>>61510797
Canadian-British Shitposting Union when?
>>61510802
>>61510739
Majority of forces involved in the D-Day landings and fighting on the western front were commonwealth not American. Watch less hollywood movies.
Western front wouldn't even have existed without the UK
>>61510783
Napoleon was defeated by Russia and the Prussians m80
>>61510834
Not in my bloody life time.
I'd rather shoot myself then lower down to a fucking leaf humour.
>>61510852
And Britain wouldn't have existed without the US
>>61510802
I expect this nonsense from Americans, not Europeans though
>>61510834
very very soon
>>61510921
What?
>>61510852
nice meme
>>61510921
WW2 wouldn't have happened without britain
>>61510921
How so?
>>61510956
This
>>61510956
Yeah, nor would Finland exist in all likelihood.
>>61510956
Eventually Germany 2.0 "Now with 1,000% more lebensraum" would have gone to war with the Soviets, but only after they held all of Europe and North Africa.
>>61511017
Funland exists because the russian empire fell apart.
It would have collapsed even without britain.
>>61510783
>Axis good
>Napoleon bad
choose none
>>61510852
units involved in d day were american, british, canadian and french
>>61510473
Come on mate, even Brits don't believe that, Britain and America are practically the same anyway, there's no importance contest because 99.9% of the time we just do the same shit together on the international stage.
>>61506449
If the numbers on both sides both added up to 100% your oy veying would be justified. However, they don't it is in fact the numbers from either side that add up to nearly 100%. You have provided no evidence of hypocritical overlap of respondents in left agree and right disagree.
>>61511061
Soviet Union wouldn't be invested on the Eastern Front and would have just consumed you.
>>61510956
WW2 wouldn't have happened if any of the allied governments listened to literally anyone who had a fucking clue after WW1
>>61510959
>>61510956
>>61510954
The germans would've choked them out with the U boats while no new materials, supplies and personel would've gotten in Britain without the US's massive supply convoys
meanwhile Hitler would've used the manpower stationed in Western Europe to send to the Eastern front, and without the US the commies couldn't have been so effective at the massive relocation of the Industry behind the Urals and many Russian built shit wouldn't have existed without American tools
and even if Hitler didn't totaly choke the UK the massive invasion in from NA and the British isles wouldn't have been possible with burger supplies and support
>>61510527
>>61510744
English is unironically the greatest language in human history ungrateful cunts
>Wanting all your words to have genders
>Wantingtoretardedlycombinewords
>Wanting to use backwards letters
>>61511067
>units involved in d day were american, british, canadian and french
Yeah and the vast majority were British and other commonwealth forces
>>61511141
>Wantingtoretardedlycombinewords
Are you fucking serious right now cunt?
http://www.learningdifferences.com/Main%20Page/Topics/Compound%20Word%20Lists/Compound_Word_%20Lists_complete.htm
>>61511135
>The germans would've choked them out with the U boats
By the half point of the war U Boats had became useless due to more advanced destroyers and larger convoys.
>>61511083
Wow such red pill, it isn't like they could have picked 3 choices yes, don't know/neutral and no. We don't know if the neutral party would sway afterwards, who knows the yes would sway to no and vice versa. Such a redpilled reply anon.
>>61511200
Thatsnothingcomparedtogerman
>>61506449
>>61511205
Larger convoys from who?
Destroyers made with what materials?
Was there any more retarded referdum in human history than brexit?
UK after brexit:
No scotlans
In recession
Paying more to EU
No EU funds
Still free movement
No voting rights
Fucking kek
>>61511253
BUT IT MADE ME FEEL BETTER
>>61511135
You're mixing 2 wars. It's true that according to Admiral Jellicoe, 1st Sealord, that the American convoys in WWI kept the Commobwealrh from being forced to surrender by Oct. of 1917, but by the time WWII came around, Hitler, himself an army strategist, rather than navy, went against the German Naval commands recommendations and didn't even build a fraction of the U-boats that might have won them the war.
Short version
>U.S. Navy convoys kept Commonwealth and France alive to win WWI
>Russia pretty much won WWII and even in the Pacific front did more to end the war just by threatening, entering Manchuria, andcrefusing to negotiate terms of surrender, than all of Americas's island hopping, bombing raids, and atomic drops
>>61511253
>No scotlans
They wish, after the oil crash they would make even the Czech Republic look like not a giant shit hole. They would have the largest deficit in all of Europe by a massive margin.
>>61511291
I was talking about what ifs, not what actualy happened ie. a WW2 without US
>>61511307
Welp brexit shows us that no one cares about economy or about numbers
Its about feeelings ;)
>>61511253
>No scotlans
>In recession
>Paying more to EU
>Still free movement
Won't happen Slav
>>61510852
Umm no dipshit
"The total number of troops landed on D-Day was around 130,000[22]–156,000[23] roughly half American and the other from the Commonwealth Realms."
Also this
>>61511067
>units involved in d day were american, british, canadian and french
You fags weren't even involved in D-day. You're also welcome for our Pacific Campaign and the battle of Coral Sea.
>>61511344
Scotland voted to remain because they were worried about the economy. Socialists won't vote to give away all there social welfare bux.
Fuck these threads make me laugh
Anglos are the MASTERACE
How can you retarded continentals not realize this?
We rule the world, The greatest countries on earth are Anglo and the only things bringing them down are the non Anglo elements inside of them
You are sitting on your computer which was invented by an Englishman conversing in English about how English people have dared to disagree with you
Your shithole countries literally revolve around the anglosphere
Seriously just accept the fact you are and always will be irrelevant or just kill yourself, it's not like it matters either way unless you're anglo
>>61511350
>>61511350
>roughly half American
about 75k US to 85k commonwealth. Where did I say Australia was involved?
>>61511345
Uk numba one
>>61511237
God Save the Queen t.bh
>>61511253
>Still free movement
The UK isn't even in the Schengen area.
Secondly, they HAVE border control
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-33267137
>>61511350
you can go fuck yourselves
>>61509967
I agree on brits being entitled cunts.
But a deputee has the right to be in the eu-parliament even if he''s against the EU.
After all he's representing the people, and it's the people who pay for the EU stuff, not EU politicians
>>61511372
#project fear
SNP just need bus and some stickers
>>61511291
It would have been literally impossible for the USSR to launch an invasion of Japan, Japan didn't give a shit about the USSR.
The Pacific Theater was all the US.
>>61511350
>You fags weren't even involved
Not him - but we positively beat the shit out of the Axis in North Africa and were busy fighting the Japanese quite literally on our doorstep by your sides.
We also... uh, were there.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_contribution_to_the_Battle_of_Normandy#Australians_at_D-Day
>>61511253
MUH SOVEREIGNTY????!?!
>>61511205
>By the half point of the war U Boats had became useless due to more advanced destroyers and larger convoys.
That was done with ships from the U.S. or operated by the Brits from lend lease.
Per capita our Merchant Marines had the highest death toll of any U.S. forces.
>>61511422
>Secondly, they HAVE border control
No they don't, under EU law they can't deny entry to any EU citizen without good reason, they can only ask to see passport.
>>61511209
You're welcome
t. /pol/
>>61511422
You know what I mean
Free labour movement
>>61510852
>>61510927
It wasn't the western allied army which stopped the Russians from invading the rest of Europe, but it was the American nukes
>>61511422
no one has full access without allowing free movement
schengen =/= free movement,
>>61511343
A WWII without the US just requires the Commonwealth do wirk harder. Australia and Canada together are almost twice the size of the contiguous USA, both extremely resource rich, so Britain isn't hurting for materials, as for manpower, more sacrifice and effort on non-European Commonwealth nations and bringing Indias massive population to bear, still win the war for the allies. America wasn't the only country to do lend lease to bith Britain and Russia by the way. Without America it's a harder fight, but still winnable, in much the same way, and close to the same timeline.
>>61511474
Since when are Europeans the problem? Wasn't it all about the refugees?
>>61511253
>No scotlans
Oh No! How will England survive without a massive leech draining it dry??
>Euros desperate to accept Greece 2.0 debnt boogaloo
>>61511565
>Euros desperate to accept Greece 2.0 debnt boogaloo
That is absolutely not the case, it's the opposite.
>>61511462
The whole article details your pilots or Navy personnel as part of British units and a handful of troops on the beaches with the horrible toll of,
"The total number of Australians killed on 6 June was 14, of whom 12 were RAAF airmen and two were members of the RAN.[1]"
Its not the same as landing on beaches and stalling cliffs. Also, yeah the Brits fucked you by insisting you be in North Africa and Burma instead of fighting closer to home.
>>61511444
Holy shit, your education system really is atrocious.
1.) Not only was a Russian invasion possible, the Japanese knew it was imminent, especially considering the Soviet invasion of Japanese Manchuria.
2.) Japan was not much deterred by Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in fact, afterwards they were using diplomacy with Moscow, not D.C., to try and sue for favourable terms of surrender that would protect their Imperial family and their high command from a war crimes trial like the Germans received.
3.) It was only after Mosciw refused to treat with them that Japan capitulated unconditionally
4.) Basically Japan hated America but feared the Soviets
>>61510452
>Implying I would mind speaking German or French
>>61511253
But we Took Back Control™
>>61511677
Not him but you do realize why the Japanese were fucked so hard then and why there Navy and Air force were in no position to ward off the Soviets? Or that the Soviets used U.S. supplies including planes. They also had already lost 20 million fighting the Krauts.
>>61510452
Thank god no one is speaking French, German or Russian anymore.
>>61511504
>American nukes
According to U.S. President Truman, 3 countries "held the keys," them being Canada, America, and Britain. All 3 knew how to manufacture atomic bombs, as the tech and materials for all was built in and by various labs in these 3 countries while sharing the findings among themselves. (Germany was closer than they knew too and there are still reports that German materials liberated from Norway were used in the first 2 bombs)
Basically, had America never been in the war, Britain would have had the bombs and tge ability to go cold war with the Soviets anyway.
>>61511677
>1.) Not only was a Russian invasion possible, the Japanese knew it was imminent, especially considering the Soviet invasion of Japanese Manchuria.
With what fucking navy?
You can't build a bridge with bodies.
An invasion of Japan would have been even more impossible than operation Sea lion.
>>61509967
>collects EU money.
>>61506449
I met a British couple here. Bought a nice patch of land in the hinterland for literal peanuts. I hope not all Brits re like that. They chimp out every time someone tells them that they're immigrants and not "expats"
>>61511800
sure sure.
You just waited until 1952 to actually build them why ?
>>61511763
I do realise the importance of America in the Pacific, you don't seem to realise the Japanese resolve to fight and fear they had for the Soviets.
Like I said earlier, all of WWII is a longer, harder, and bloodier war without America, but still winnable in much the same way.
The Soviets used lend-lease supplies, not all of which were from America, but virtually all of which were shipped via Canada's eastern ports.
>>61510452
>Napoleon
Spain btfos him, the Russia, the Brits saw it and took advantage of it.
>WII
Russia and France, mate.
>WWII
Russia and the self-destructing attitude Hitler had.
Holy shit, m8, stop sucking so much dick!
>>61506449
Haha Brits still think they're important when they are becoming less relevant everyday. Britannia will never rule the waves again.
>>61512077
>Spain btfos him
You mean Wellesley kicked Spanish boot-licker ass while a bunch of gorillas chimped out in the mountains.
>>61510473
... in the UK.
>>61511938
Know idea why Britain did what they did, but Canada didn't build them for a few reasons biggest if which was cost vs effectiveness as well as not seeing the need for putting an international target on ourselved
Canada is protected by American bombs, 90% of Canadians live within the fallout radius of America, we're basically untouchable so long as America remains a superpower. Later, Diefenbaker refused to allow nukes to be placed in Canada during the cold war, scrapped the Bomarcs we did have, and "lended" mist of our top scientists in things like nuclear physics and roxket tech to the USA where they became the core of what is now called NASA's Johnson Space Centre
Basically because we're pussies and America didn't trust our ability to keep the scecret (although it was them that eventually leaked it to the Soviets)
>>61512147
Nice one, angloscum.
I'm not even going to bother posting screencaps of the Guerra Peninsular so that you yourself do it and realize that 90% of the fights were won by Spaniards and not angloscum.
>>61506449
Fucking lol
>>61512336
why does the war ends in 1814?
>>61510452
>saved us from Napoleon
That is a favor nobody needed (except for aristocrats).
>>61512336
>France Promises to help invade portugal
>Moves troops in
>Instead decides to takeover Spain
>Surrenders without a fight
>Napoleon installs brother as king
>Invade Portugal
>UK intervenes
>Based Wellesley crushes spanish opposition
>Drives frogs out of Iberia
>Pro-British government installed in Spain
>WE DID IT!
>>61512336
>I'm not even going to bother posting screencaps of the Guerra Peninsular so that you yourself do it and realize that 90% of the fights were won by Spaniards and not angloscum.
Please do post them
>>61506449
>mfw Brits are now the most hated european country on this board
Thanks a lot, lads.
>>61512470
Because it did take until 1814 to completely safeguard Spain.
>>61512491
>Spain get betrayed by France
>The civilians decide to fight against the vassal state without an army
>kick them out of Spain
>The brits take part on it because they are scum who want to join an already won battle
>WE DID IT GUYS! WE SAVED EUROPE AND SPAIN!
Sorry to break it to you, it was the Spanish the ones that kicked the french out.
>>61512505
No way I'm going to screencap that amount of battles.
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerra_de_la_Independencia_Espa%C3%B1ola
Go under the main image on the right to the list of battles and see how many were Spanish and how many were Brits.
>>61510452
>Napoleon
>bad
>>61512641
Spanish forces didn't even participate in the most important battle of the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salamanca#Outcome
A bunch of peasants fighting amongst themselves while the big boys did the important work.
No number of spanish guerillas would have stood a chance against an actual French army.
>>61512641
you never kicked anybody out.
you won the peninsula war because napoleon lost elsewhere and thus it ended the peninsula war.
>>61512734
>Spanish forces didn't even participate in the most important battle of the war.
No amount of a single battle could have changed the tides of the War being won by Spain.
>A bunch of peasants fighting amongst themselves while the big boys did the important work.
Exactly, a bunch of important Spaniards beaten the french EVERY WHERE in Spain while the coward Brits needed the Portuguese to get a successful and decisive victory.
>No number of spanish guerillas would have stood a chance against an actual French army.
That's EXACTLY what happened, with Brits being cowards who only fought an already won war.
>i-it doesn't matter that you fucked France up! I-i-it was a 2 battles that won everything!
Fucking pathetic.
>>61512771
>you never kicked anybody out.
Yes, we kicked Napoleon out.
>you won the peninsula war because napoleon lost elsewhere and thus it ended the peninsula war.
Wow, you do know that Spain was the first country to beat Napoleon, right? It was after Spain that Napoleon started to lose everywhere.
Summarizes most of the EU desu
>I want all the good parts of EU
>I don't want to pay for it, or do anything for it, I want everything for free
no solidarity, nothing.
>>61506449
Brits being Brits, what else is new?
>>61512856
>>61512881
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsular_War
>The years of fighting in Spain was a heavy burden on France's Grande Armée. While the French were victorious in battle, their communications and supplies were severely tested and their units were frequently isolated, harassed or overwhelmed by partisans fighting an intense guerrilla war of raids and ambushes. The Spanish armies were repeatedly beaten and driven to the peripheries, but they would regroup and relentlessly hound the French. This drain on French resources led Napoleon, who had unwittingly provoked a total war, to call the conflict the "Spanish Ulcer".[3][4]
The guerillas were literally nothing more then a pain in the ass, repeatedly getting crushed in battle by the french forces. They barely won a single battle they fought
>>61506449
Would he fair. Net migration has gone one direction (to UK), now it should be possible that it goes into the other direction.
>>61512967
>The guerillas were literally nothing more then a pain in the ass, repeatedly getting crushed in battle by the french forces. They barely won a single battle they fought
You literally posted a quote clearly stating the the French army was incapable of defeat the Spanish guerilla, which is exactly why Spain won.
>guerrilla constantly kicking France's ass
>the "most powerful army" is losing territories to "shitty guerrillas"
>Spain is clearly winning
>"b-b-ut that doesn't count!"
Nice arguments, mate.
>>61513008
-he+be +into
>>61513045
>guerrilla constantly kicking France's ass
>Lose every battle they fight
Pick one. They annoyed the french while the Anglo-Portugese actually beat them in decisive battles.
>>61513095
>>guerrilla constantly kicking France's ass
>>Lose every battle they fight
Killing an entire army against losing civil population is "losing", yeah, right, that's precisely why they were losing territories to Spain.
>They annoyed the french while the Anglo-Portugese actually beat them in decisive battles.
"Annoyed" is a weird way of saying "killed the French soldiers and retook the territories".
>>61513095
Also, I counted the battles:
>14 Spanish victories
>5 of them decisive, with Spaniards being the only/biggest part of the fight
"I-it was the Brits that saved y-you!"
>>61512856
Delusional
>>61510303
Poland saved Europe from Mongols and Turks and Germans
Can you beat that?
>>61511889
MEPs literally get money from the budget.
>>61510303
>three times
>anglos unironically think Napoleon was bad
>>61513401
Poles got crushed by Mongols though
>>61513095
>brithis infantry save you
lmao
probably the worst infantry in europe.
>spain infantry do nothing
literally the best infantry of europa in all times
go to fuck a kangaroo,retard
>>61513577
>>61513321
>>61513143
>>61513045
WTF man?
>>61513617
Nice counterargument.
>>61513376
>14 Spanish victories
>5 of them decisive
Yeah, pretty delusional from the Brits to think you beat Napoleon in Spain.
>>61513617
>brithis infantry
KEK
come man, brithis infantry always was a shit.they only won us in a naval battles.
post a victory of the brithis infantry against spaniards.
you cant.
>>61510530
>>61512077
Russia lost ww1 you fucking idiots
Meanwhile Brits spearheaded the hundred days campaign defeating the Germans and occupied Constantinople then dismantling the Ottoman empire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_I)
>>61514643
>Russia backed out of ww1 for national reasons you fucking idiots
>Meanwhile the British Commonwealth spearheaded the hundred days campaign defeating the Germans and occupied Constantinople then dismantling the Ottoman empire
*ftfy
>>61513672
Wellington's British/Portuguese army did more than the Spanish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vitoria
>>61514723
Fair enough
>>61514771
>1 battle
Well, turns out that 1 is bigger than 5 for the Brits.
>>61510336
How come you guys don't deport them?
>>61514771
this was the most decisible battle in the war.
not a single drop of brithis or poortuguese blood .:)
>>61514880
That battle wasn't some skirmish, it was literally the battle that kicked the French out and I'm not going to post tons of British battles from wiki like an autist
>>61513486
Napoleon is seen in the UK as yet another European manlet dictator who got BTFO. That;'s what Britain does, blows manlet dictators the fuck out.
>>61514965
>That battle wasn't some skirmish, it was literally the battle that kicked the French out and I'm not going to post tons of British battles from wiki like an autist
Because there are actually AREN'T as many as there are Spanish battles.
I've already counted and linked to the Spanish victories in Spain, but it's like speaking to a wall, you are stuck in believing your country's version of "the Brits saved Spain!" because you are too dense to understand how much of an already won war the Guerra Peninsular was at that point.
>>61510303
It's funny because it's true.
How comes people give a shit about the UK and brexit. UK is literally irrelevant in the 21th century and will remain for some time.
>nearly no influence in the EU parliament
>weak economics
>weak military considered their budged
>british tourists are a menace everywhere on the world
>>61515025
Spanish probably won tons of skirmishes but Wellington commanded the battles that drove the French out.
>>61515151
Good job a perfect 4/4 incorrect.
>>61515156
>Spanish probably won tons of skirmishes but Wellington commanded the battles that drove the French out.
The Spanish army completely rekt the French army, no matter how much you want to think otherwise.
>Spain has already shown it's fucking France up several times without having a proper army
>The Brits see this as an opportunity to take advantage of the situation
>Get into the war for the price when you are not needed
>Claim you won
And I repeat:
Spanish victories -14
Of which were decisive - 5
First country to defeat Napoelón on war - Spain
Fisrt country to defeat Napoleón on regular battles - Spain (already been posted by the other anon, "Batalla Bailen")
You remind me of the Americans who think they are the reason WWII was won. "Hey, guys, let's enter the now that it's clear the allies are winning so we can claim WE won it!".
>>61515156
>this is actually brithis think
kek.
>>61515254
>>61515301
Wellington commanded the advance into Northern Spain and even into southern France. Without Wellington Portugal wouldn't have been liberated and the Spanish would just be fighting a continuous guerrilla war
>>61511205
and sonar and the cracking of the enigma code
Fetch those horses.
>>61511253
BUT WE HAVE OUR FREEDUMS NOW M8!!!
>>61512147
Kek aussies are master rusemen
>>61515390
>Wellington commanded the advance into Northern Spain and even into southern France.
Wellington commanded the advance towards a French army that had already lost. You are just delusional to believe Spain hadn't already won.
>Without Wellington Portugal wouldn't have been liberated and the Spanish would just be fighting a continuous guerrilla war
Without Wllinton Spain had 3 decisive victories against France that caused the beginning of the Crisis of the French Empire. Hilariously enough, once the Brits entered the war, the % of Spanish victories took a hit.
For as much as you Brits love giving links to articles pointing out how "good" you are, you really have a hard time reading how Spain had already beaten the French.
>>61515459
>>61511398
>Division led by U.S. only one not succeeding
They can't keep getting away with it
>>61515220
t. sir nigel de jong
>>61515220
hes right tho
>>61510452
>"saved" from Napoleon
>>61515521
>Spain hadn't already won
Spanish victories only partially liberated southern Spain which helped the allies a lot but the French started to lose when Wellington took Madrid and advanced into northern Spain and winning battles like Vitoria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salamanca
>The French were forced to abandon Andalusia permanently while the loss of Madrid irreparably damaged King Joseph's pro-French government.
>>61515151
pretty numbers.
>>61515220
>>61515724
>it's a british tourist
Enjoying that free wifi in aamstuurdaem?
>>61515689
>Spanish victories only partially liberated southern Spain
The Spanish victories, again, cause the beginning of the Crisis of the Empire. Without Britain Spain would have won.
I'm dumbfounded that you are linking me shit but are failing to understand that Spain had already defeated the French army in every situation and the fall of the Empire had started well before you even entered the war.
Just like the Americans with WWI, mate, just like the Americans.
>Nah, those decisive victories you have linked aren't true and don't count
>The ones I am post ARE true and the only ones that count, therefore we saved Spain
This is some hilarious stuff.
The Batalla Bailen was to France what the Batlle of Rocoi was to Spain.
>Wellington didn't do anything in Iberia
>he's got portuguese titles and statues and streets named after him all over the fucking place
>there's none for any spics
Sorry for those french autists sperging out itt
>>61515808
Yes the Spanish uprising gave the British a massive chance to damage the French but the "Batalla Bailen" was only an initial victory which helped cause more rebellions. Only until Wellington invaded was when the French were drove back after being damaged by Spanish rebellions.
>In November, Napoleon directed the bulk of the Grande Armée across the Pyrenees and dealt a series of devastating blows to the vacillating Spanish forces, receiving the surrender of Madrid in scarcely a month's time. Fate was particularly cruel to the victors of Bailén: Castaños was himself routed by Marshal Lannes at the Battle of Tudela in November 1808, while Reding was ridden down and trampled by the French cavalry at the Battle of Valls in 1809, dying of his wounds. Marshal Soult overran much of Andalusia the following year
>>61515808
Lol man you don't know what are you talking about.
You know that after Bailen the french army sent a counterattack in which they rekt the spanish forces?
>>61515591
>>61515631
>>61515802
Alright then...
They're the 3rd biggest party in the EU parliament, were projected to overtake the German economy at one point, have one of the strongest militaries (4/5th biggest spending in the world) especially when it comes to their navy and the tourist are just decent people overal apart from a few exceptions.
>>61515924
>Yes the Spanish uprising gave the British a massive chance to damage the French but the "Batalla Bailen" was only an initial victory which helped cause more rebellions.
The Batallan Bailen was literally the exact same thing that Rocroi was, the realization that France could not keep it's military supremacy and that the opposing force -in this case, Spain- was going to inevitably win the war. For Christ sake, just look at the battles, one ONCE were the Brits more numerous than the Spanish in a allied battle, every other time it was Spaniards doing the war.
>but it doesn't count because guerrillas don't count because I say so!
they only thing that would have changed had Britain not entered the war would have been that it would have taken a couple years more.
I'm surprised that you cannot comprehend this.
>but it was us who made France lose Madird!
But It was US the ones that had the French by the balls for you to even have that chance to begin with.
Jesus Christ, just look at the battle in wikipedia, hell, you don't need to be an astronaut to realize who actually fought that war.
>>61515959
And Spain defeated France after the battle of Rocroi too, that doesn't mean that battle didn't set the start of the fall of the Spanish military supremacy.
Neve rdid I say Spain didn't lose battle, because we did, but claiming that it wasn't Spain the one that kick France out of the country is stupid.
>>61516138
Basically the Spanish damaged the French army which allowed Wellington to kick them out. Without the Spanish rebellions Wellington would have only been able to defend Portugal, without the British the Spanish would be stuck trying to take all of southern Spain.
>>61516306
This
>>61516093
>They're the 3rd biggest party in the EU parliament
>were projected to overtake the German economy at one point
>and the tourist are just decent people overal
Fuck off Nigel, you're not welcome.
>>61516306
>without the British the Spanish would be stuck trying to take all of southern Spain.
No, it would have just taken longer, no matter how much you want to think otherwise.
Even the Napoleonic Spanish army was starting to betray Napoleón, the defeat of France was set to happen, with or without Britain.
I don't know anything about the situation of Portugal, but that's not actually what I'm discussing.
>>61510303
Good post
>>61516384
Very uncouth attitude.
>>61516406
>No, it would have just taken longer
It would have taken too long for the Spanish on their own, by the time even Wellington was occupying parts of Southern France Russia had already reached Paris.
I'm Britboo since the referendum.
>>61516540
>It would have taken too long for the Spanish on their own
No, because then, as you later say, Russia was on their ass. France would been out of Spain even without Britain.
Spain was giving nothing but failures to Napoleon. Had Britain not too part in the conflict the rebellion would have extended to the gross of the Spanish Napoleonic Army, as it started to do before the Brits got into it.
By the time France realized the problems of the Russian front, the army in Spain would have massively started to desert, as it started to in several regions of Spain.
Y si quieren venir que vengan, les presentaremos batasha.
>>61506449
alright this is it, I am now a #cruzmissle
>>61516699
Either way Spain would have been liberated with the help of wellington or had to wait out 5 years until Russia had invaded France, assuming the French didn't wipe out the Spanish rebellions in that time which was close to happening if Wellington didn't invade after defeating the French in Portugal.
>>61510452
Napoleon did nothing wrong.
>>61517056
>Napoleon did nothing wrong.
This. Also Cortés neither.
>>61510452
Napoleon shouldve won
