Why do cities so often vote left?
The difference in policies between left and right barely affect them in comparison to farmers. Why should they dictate over land they know nothing about?
>>61502797
More young people, more educated people, and more immigrants.
>>61502888
this, plus the fact that leftist policies benefit cities if they benefit anyone
>>61502888
>more young people
Having children, and more than just one or two, is pretty important for famers.
Last I checked birthrates for leftists was in heavy decline
>more educated people
I'd hardly consider arts degrees an education
Business get huge cuts under our right
and stem, well i guess i could understand their desire to vote left.
>immigrants
That I can also understand.
Urban people are liberal because cities=minorities so you learn to live in peace
Rural people are conservative because every one in your village is the same as you so you never learned to accept differences
>>61502956
>Last I checked birthrates for leftists was in heavy decline
Were* and businesses* rather.
>>61502956
>le arts degree meme
What major corporations are based in bumfuck nowhere? Stemfags live and work in cities.
>>61502888
>more educated
more educated in a marxist system, yes.
>>61502797
City people don't rule country people, Friendo.
Urban elites, in alliance with rural elites, work in tandem to keep the urban poor and rural poor in line.
>>61502956
Children can't vote, silly. Because many suburban and rural youth move to the cities, there are lots of young voters there. Also, I doubt there's a political association with birth-rates. The factors that contribute to fertility are wealth and religion.
>>61502979
>61502979
City people are parasites and don't produce a damn thing of what they consume, simply parasite off the production of the producers, rural people are producers.
>>61503010
Mining industry
Its important here
Mate.
>>61502956
>I'd hardly consider arts degrees an education
>>61503066
>implying this isn't 100% true
>>61503028
We producers should enforce our own currency backed by what we produce, and leave the intellectuals to their fruits, nothing.
>>61502797
>know nothing
That's the reason. They're all naive and dumb, as well as probably associated with foreigners in some way.
>>61503066
The only work you can get is in an arts factors, i.e. McDonalds.
>>61503028
t. subsidy farmer
>>61503179
You get to eat because of people like him.
>>61503066
Easy there, arts student. You don't get to make fun of people. You only get play your shittty instrument on the streets around hobos.
>>61503148
The intellectual currency, the most funniest of things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Ll5-xj8lg
>>61503013
>not realizing that Marxism would save the West from poverty, exploitation, and identity politics
>>61503301
kys
>>61503301
I suggest biting a curb and having someone kick it in.
>Businesses get huge [tax] cuts under our Right
>>61503066
J&B Striaght, and a carona.
No I would not like to hear the specials for today.
>>61503301
I hope you dont actually believe this.
>Cambodian killing fields.png
>It will be different this time!
>>61503430
what do you think they do with the money they save on tax cuts?
>>61503327
Your employer doesn't care about you. The only reason your job has not been given to a machine, an immigrant, or an Indian is because you're currently slightly less expensive than the alternative.
If we don't reverse the economic direction our society is headed in, the vast majority of Westerners will be locked in hopeless poverty and depression.
>>61503301
It will sink the West, like it's doing here and in Venezuela.
>>61503486
kys
>>61503523
Venezuela isn't falling apart because it's socialistic, but because the government is corrupt and not properly democratized. Chavez' feeble economic empire could not be handled by somebody as incompetent and Maduro, but the people cannot vote him out. In addition, declining oil prices deprived the Venezuelan state and Venezuelan businesses of income, which was the backbone of the country's economy.
>>61503632
Marxist /=/ Socialist
Marxist = a religion
Economic Socialism /=/ socioeconomic theory of marxism
Reminder that social conservatism is dying out in the sticks and the Nationals will have to either move to the centre or give way to centrist ex-Nats like Windsor, Oakeshott and McGowan
>>61502797
Website?
>>61503661
How is Marxism a religion? I don't believe in a higher power. You could say that rightists do, with all their "invisible hand" masturbation.
cities are traditionally centres of industry and people working there tend to vote for labour parties reinforcing trade unions of all kinds
the "cities are librul coz people are smartr" meme is invalid
>>61503700
It is faith based.
>>61503748
This is literally the only Marxist thing anyone's said in this thread
>>61503802
take cheeky peek at England then
the north always votes Labour, the south always votes Conservative
>>61503486
>>61503632
>because the government is corrupt and not properly democratized.
That's exactly what happens when you have a huge state, m8. Chavez was just as dumb as Maduro is and Venezuela is sinking for more than a decade now. Also, this stupid mentality against tecnology is the worst thing about marxism. New ways to produce= new specializations and more investment in it.
>>61503700
It's less of a religion than a secular form of Utopianism for self-described intellectuals
>We just need to seize the means of production for the proleteriat, that will fix everything!
>>61503819
I wasn't saying you were wrong, I'm just saying there's a shitfight over someone's red star cosplay and then someone comes along and says something that actually is consistent with Marxist analysis.
>>61503748
>cities are traditionally centres of industry and people working there tend to vote for labour parties reinforcing trade unions of all kinds
Except the importance of trade unions has declined greatly in most Western nations, yet Western cities are still heavily Left compared to the countryside
>>61503985
the workers did not die out though and they tend to have more children onto which they project their own worldview
educated "elites" are consistently a minority that has no influence over the masses
>>61503301
This desu
>>61502797
guess where the immigrants and housing commission people live
>>61503028
Yes. We only consume farm harvested food. People in cities don't produce any type of products or services. That would be ridiculous.
t. Mesopotamian
>>61504830
What site is this?
>>61504905
4chan
>>61503680
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/newspoll
>>61502797
In France it's the same, big cities tend to vote left, except for southern-east ones:
In Marseille (2nd most populated french city) FN get 35% of the vote at last elections, in Nice (5th french city) they get 34% and in Toulon (15th french city) they get 39% of the voices.
>>61505026
We also have some "red countryside", in regions like Auvergne, Limousin, Brittany, and south-west in general, where small villages used to vote communist and now vote for left parties
>>61502797
Bigger mix of lower class workers with middle class people, leading to a more liberal worldview.
Marxism really gained traction from the Industrial Revolution through the concentration of lower class workers in cities.
Plus rural areas are a lot more homogenous, which leads to less diversity in thinking.
>>61503214
fucking country cunts on their high horses.
>hurr durr where do you think you food comes from
Yeah because people in cities aren't producing any goods or services which benefit you.
>seize the means of production
what did he mean by this
>>61505893
It means I'm coming for your mum.
>>61504830
>the party that advocates rights for the poor and disadvantaged does well in areas filled with poor and disadvantaged people
Wow anon, you're truly a genius
>>61503028
t. farmer relying on a bank loan from the city so he doesn't hang himself
>>61503301
heIIo reddit
>>61502797
Whats that turquoise
>>61506128
>Marxists
>Winning an argument ever
>>61505851
goods and services =/= necessities
Eating is important anon, you die if you cant eat
And you cant eat if farming inst profitable
Cities are more reliant on government services and city infrastructure. In rural towns the biggest government issue is fixing potholes in the road
>>61502797
-More educated
-More immigrants and minorities
-Living in a city you tend to encounter stuff outside your comfort zone way more than in rural life or small towns, which leads to liberalism. This'd go with the immigrants and minorities thing.
-Cities deal with the government a lot more in terms of infrastructure and services, so government expansion doesn't bother that much. FWIW, rural and suburban areas also get various public benefits, but not to the same degree.
>>61503301
Its true
Compare russia and former ussr states to the west
>>61502956
>I'd hardly consider arts degrees an education
There are what, 130 undergraduate courses run by the University of Sydney alone. Ultimately, a lot of our politicians are university educated and choose combined arts degrees.
You need another argument on that front. And the fact that "educated" can include people into their eighties who have actual life experiences.
>>61508298
>Ultimately, a lot of our politicians are university educated and choose combined arts degrees.
A combined degree isn't an arts degree.
Its an arts degree AND a useful one. For example I study commerce/arts (international studies) combined.
obviously the arts portion is just a hobby, something I enjoy and find interesting, its not something important and I wouldn't consider it an education by any means.
>>61509397
Nah I know that, just wondering if he did.
It's also disingenuous to say all arts degrees are useless considering there are so many major options. Granted a majority are vocationally useless, but there still remain some that are impactful and useful to society.
Dismissing someone because they have an education is just absurd. Troglodites tried to do the same with my degree - but then the dumb cunts had their children get whooping cough.
Cities are full of insecure jobs and students on welfare. And city people don't have independence on anything, they can't even go places without public transportation.
As dependents like that, they can't stand the idea of not having a welfare state to be their mom.
Why leftist people have always this arrogance of believing they are more educated and in "the good side"?
>>61502797
>The difference in policies between left and right barely affect them in comparison to farmers.
Not when you take scale into account. A single factory can turn a small city's fortunes around. A single need-based subsidy can change the lives of thousands of people.
>>61512319
Because we generally are. Rightism is the promotion or even creation of inequality, which isn't acceptable
