Around 7 million of adult Poles were spending summer holidays abroad, maily in Greece, Spain, Italy, Egypt, Turkey and soon..
This year is first year when most of them chooses Polish sea because of ISIS, terrorist attacks and refugees.
Islam and media can have massive influence on consumers decisions
>>61502606
Vacations in Poland can be more espensive than Greece, Turkey, or Portugal.
Fucking joke.
>>61502666
Yes, they are similarily expensive, but at least safe
>>61502666
Welcome to our club, Satanowski
>>61502685
>>61502699
reeeeeeeeeeee
foreigners stop making the prices higher than they should be
>>61502606
Isn't that good though as now they're investing in your tourist sector helping growth in your economy?
>>61502606
>Polish sea
LOL
I was in Egypt in the same week that the Egyptair plane crashed. I never felt unsafe, I had the beach completely for myself and the prices were amazing.
>>61502823
Depends on perspective. If you look at it from perspective of a tourist, overcrowded beaches are a bad thing. If you look at it from a perspective of Polish businessman, it is a good thing
>>61502823
No. People started visiting my city en masse about 2 years ago and it's ogre now.
I'm not used to foreigners or even Polish tourists.
For example - I'm in a shop and there's like 4 people standing near me and talking in some strange language. I see one of them, a qt grill, look at me smile and than talk to the other foreigners.
What I feel is chaos, did she say something good? Maybe bad? Should I ask her what's it about, what should I do?
Same thing in a pub, 2 latino girls dancing, they look at me, talk to each other. Normaly I'd know what to do because I'd hear them, but now I can't understand them so I'm confused.
Next those fucking sightseeing cars, they block the road, go slow, people fucking wave, I'm in a hurry(work) should I wave back? I should focus on the road but those people are waving, what the fuck should I do.
Next thing: planes. It used to be quiet now there's a airport and planes fly over the city all the time. It's loud as fuck.
I need to hog more cash and move to the countryside.
>>61502968
Sounds like my life here in Brussels, enjoy it.
>visit Poland for holidays
>it's cold
>it's cloudy
>Jakubslav Nowakslav and his friends beat the crap out of you because you don't look like a cancer patient
>>61503078
>le epic depressing eastern europe meme
>Baltic """"""""""Sea"""""""""""""
It's an ice floe
>>61502968
Sightseeing cars are the biggest tourism-related cancer in existence. Followed by street souvenir vendors and all restaurants and bars morphing into kitschy, overpriced tourist traps.
>>61503030
>>61503030
Well I bet Brussels has much more tourists, anyway here it's going up so fast I'm experiencing a cultural shock, I can't help it it's happening too fast. I'm used to a chill atmosphere and eating pierogi at one of my favourite restaurants serving local dishes by the lakeside, now I need to book a table there, like 2-3 days prior... I hate it.
can't remember the last time I was actually sightseeing
there came a moment in my life when I thought "foreign countries are the same as ours and people living there are the same as we are, looking at their buildings seems stupid"
then I discovered /int/ and dreamed of sightseeing again but never went abroad (only to Belaruse to smuggle cigarettes)
>>61503330
why would you smuggle cigarettes to Belaruse?
>>61503163
No.
Fat, old Germans are.
They walk in huge crowds. Take every possible sitting spot, yell to each other from different ends of a street, make huge crowds in restaurants, talk random shit to you even though you're just standing there and waiting for a tram or smoking, or get lost.
I had a old German come and sit next to me, maybe a week ago, at a lakeside bench, and just say things in German for 10 minnutes.
Turned out the heat got him, he split from the group, left the old down, went down the road to the lake, and went on his quest to talk random jibberish to every person he sees.
>>61503356
it's good money
>>61503416
You must live near the border.
>>61503458
geez how did you guess
>>61503504
I'm smart.
>>61503416
Smuggle gasoline from Kaliningrad instead. You can earn up to 3000 euro / month on it if you will be driving 10 hours / day in both directions. Poles in Northern Poland use old Volkswagens for it because they have the biggest fuel tanks ;)
>>61502606
We're pretty safe Jakub, pls come
>>61503415
they all look exactly like this (socks and sandals are missing from this picture though)
Also what I've noticed is that when they're in restaurants or having """"fun"""" they're fucking animals,laughing like mad,shouting,whatnot, you don't see that shit here and we're all gypsies
Putin will lift the ban on travelling to turkey soon. Enjoy our natashas my turkish brothers.
>>61503577
I'm from Olsztyn and I heard about it. People from the small towns on the border do it and than sell it at their garages or some shit.
>muh polish holidaycamps
>>61503772
Every
Fucking
Time
>>61503772
Poland is visited by 16 mln of foreign tourists every year, and barely 1,5 mln visit Auschwitz-Birkenau, so it is a myth that it is one of biggest "tourist attractions" in Poland
>>61503612
Good that you managed to deescalate situation.
>>61503579
As soon as refugee crisis is solved, we will come back to you. In fact Greece was number one amongst Polish tourists before refugee crisis
Greece comes in first place on a list of top destinations for Polish tourists in 2015 with a market share of 27.5 percent, according to data of the Polish Tour Operators Association (PZOT).
Speaking at the event, the Commercial Attaché of Poland to Greece Miroslaw Gojdz said that he expects the number of Polish visitors to Greece this year to reach some 900,000, compared to 600,000 in 2014 and 400,000 in 2013.
http://news.gtp.gr/2015/10/26/greece-top-destination-polish-travellers-scandinavians-favorite/
>>61502968
>I see one of them, a qt grill, look at me smile
reeee
>>61503579
I was in Greece 10 years ago.
When some random tourists(no idea what nationality they were, swarthy skin though) robbed the hotel bar from alcohol the owner accused me of it andwanted to take away my passport even though I was a top tier, calm, guest :(
Until this day I feel sad.
>>61504047
phew, you're right about the refugees, shit, but still, as long as you avoid the inner cities you'll be fine.
>>61504081
was it the concierge or the hotel owner? If it's any consolation, lowlife scum like this don't stay around in business long. im really sorry for this.
>>61504263
No idea, it ended with him not even saying sorry. He was an angry person so I always blamed the guys character not the place. I really liked Greece and advertised it to my parents who go to Zakynthos quite often. I was at a city near Skiathos and went to Skiathos few times.
I visited quite a lot of places, Athenes was the worst probably with Meteora and Skiathos being the best. I was also suprised that olympus is not just 1 mountain but a whole range, I remember(dunno how it is now) the road leading up the mountain with those wooded old barriers that protect tourists from falling down the cliff.
Why don't Poles just go to Croatia instead of going all the way to Greece and Malta? R u retarded?
>>61504081
it's pretty common in greece
>>61504493
In 2013 almost 700k tourists from Poland visited Croatia. I can't find newest data unfortunately
http://www.wirtualnemedia.pl/artykul/w-2013-r-chorwacje-odwiedzilo-12-mln-turystow-trzykrotnie-wiecej-niz-liczba-mieszkancow-tego-kraju
>>61504493
What's the difference where you drown or fall off a cliff while drunk.
Also I think Croatia is getting more and more popular but the "Italy and Greece have so much history we love" meme is super strong in Poles. We learn to love Greece and Italy because we learn about the Roman Empire and anceint Greece for quite some time in schools and we idealize it.
>>61502606
pretty sad, we love polish qts and polish people
How does it feel to find out that you're seen on the same level as pakis in the UK? To the extent that they'd rather import indians than you lot?
Must be kinda weird considering you'd probably bash them in your own country
>>61502968
>tfw live in San Francisco
>literally can't take 5 steps from my house without loud tourists.
>>61504636
we get used to it. in europe russians are on the same level as gypsies
>>61504673
Do they play Scott McKenzies San Francisco in every tourist location?
The first thing I heard when I arrived in NYC was the song New York by Jay Z and Byonce. It was funny and kinda surreal.
>>61502868
>>61503162
why would anyone want to spent his 2 weeks off, frying his ass on a dull overcrowded beach or swimming in poluted sea that will make your balls glow instead of exploring masurian lakes or bieszczady is beyond me
>>61504457
my dude, these are all great places you mentioned. As a personal rule, while traveling I generally avoid people and enjoy the landscape instead, even my countrymen tbη. sorry again
>>61504505
I doubt it's that common but i'm aware of some incidents here and there in my hometown(Karpenisi). It's really funny how some people shit where they eat. We've only got a tourism industry and shit like this happens.
I won't argue against it, it's horrible.
>>61504713
Never heard it played before, if they did it would probably be somewhere in Fisherman's Wharf which is the biggest tourist gimmick in the city.
>>61504691
Not true. Russian shopping tourists are always welcome in Northern Poland. Polish shop workers even learn Russian language to serve them better. We were afraid that they will stop coming here after crash of ruble, but they still come because there is big inflation in Kaliningrad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUJyctyAqsI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AhQ1BMkxk
>>61504691
desu Russians are kinda seen as cool, at least in anglo countries.
I think it's because we associate you with Putin, Bears, Vodka and Stalingrad, whereas Poles are kinda seen as plumbers and Potatoes
>>61504745
>>61504745
I've got a local song here that they play often and it makes me loose it. It's a song made by this kinda folk/country type of band.
They converted the song to all types of music or even sign language.
It's this if you're interested, it's nothing good but I guess things like this make you see other cultures and/or people/places:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iigYSPGMrV0
>>61504636
We don't care what foreigners think about us. We are a member of EU and have a right to work in millions for Western salaries wherever we want, as long as EU exists. We don't care how it hurts local Western societies at all, the only thing we care about is easy money.
>>61504773
>plumbers and Potatoes
It's because of both education and ignorance. And to be exact the lack of the first thing and the plenty of the second thing.
>>61504773
Russians can't work in the West, or even Poland, without visas and special system of permissions. We give visas only to highly skilled professionals from Russia, f.e. IT experts who have rare skills that it is hard to find in Poland. An average Russian cleaner or plumber can't work in the West, but i bet that he would want to do it, because salaries in Russia are 2x-3x lower than in Poland.
>>61504863
>salaries in Russia are 2x-3x lower than in Poland.
they are a bit lower but not 2x times lower
I've been hearing tourism in Greece will be lower than last year this summer.
Same deal in Turkey becasue of terrorism.
Who will these extra tourists go to?
Italy? Croatia?
>>61504938
Broatia
>>61504911
An average Russian wage is around 30k rubles, which is like 1700 zł. It is a very low salary of shop-worker in Poland. And it is average. 60% of Russians earn less than this. Moreover their average is also faked by Moscow where salaries are on Polish level (average 60k rubles) more or less, while in province people earn 8k-12k rubles.
>grew up as a teenager in NYC in the early-mid 90's on the upper-east side.
>Due to it reputation in the 70's and 80's as a dangerous city we never really got a lot of foreign tourism (it was still significant though)
>Used to be able to walk in Manhattan without having to fight through crowds of tourists.
>The subway wasn't packed at all times of the day.
>You could actually walk through GCT without shoving chinks taking pictures of the main concourse.
>Midtown still retained it's turn of the century neo-classical and gothic buildings instead of a bunch of ugly glass dildos.
>Now I can't go anywhere without smelling stinky sudacas, getting spit on by chinks, or getting into barfights with Australians
Someone make it stop
>>61504963
You can divide 228k by 16 to find out what I earn in PLN.
polishs are cancer.
>>61505072
I talk about average Russians, not you. Code monkeys earn decent money everywhere. Your society is poor like motherfucker and you shouldn't be ashamed of it. People in glubinka live literally in third world conditions,
>>61505027
>global metropolis
>no foreigners or tourists
pick one
Visit Austria, it's 100% safe
We pay them so much welfare they believe they are already in paradise and thus have no more reason to blow themselves up :3
>>61505108
It didn't have to be this way
>>61505099
>two nukes + one failed nuclear power plant
>>61505150
>occupied by the Soviet.
>>61505186
fair point, but at least most soviets are not radioactive
>>61505207
>>61505100
But im not code monkey. Im just a juriscounsult in Moscow.
In reality, people in Moscow earn around 100k roubles, which is 6 229.98 PLN a month.
Other sities are shit though.
>>61505186
For once I envy you Nippon, you don't have to use flashlights in the night.
>>61505207
>Chernobyl
but Fukushima's power plant made by General Electronic, USA.
thats a first nuclear power plant in japan
>>61505267
>juriscounsul
Average salary of experienced lawyers in Poland is12460 zł / month
http://www.polskiprawnik.pl/raport-antal-wzrosly-zarobki-prawnikow-biznesowych-z-kancelarii-i-firm/
>>61505108
>>global metropolis
>>no foreigners or tourists
any major chinese city
>>61505311
tbf Shanghai has a decent amount of expats but nowhere near any other big western city or even Hong Kong.
>>61505311
>global
>>61505311
Yeah they keep the evil gaijin out with cancerous smog.
>>61505270
yes, but thats a too too bright, desu.
>>61505388
Who cares. It's savings and savings are something I can get behind.
>>61505308
>experienced
Kek. I finished uni 2 years ago.
You shouldnt compare Poland and Moscow. Moscow is simply better, even economicaly.
Its a country inside a country.
>>61505448
Moscow is not better than Poland economically because its boom is based entirely on oil price. It is like oil arab state but with much lower level of investments. Moreover prices in Moscow are crazy in comparison with Poland, especially rent prices. And quality of everything is incomparably lower, beginning from public services, through public transporations and quality of apartments - and huge corruption on all level. My friend lived in Moscow 2 years on contract with university and she told me a lot about this city
>>61505448
Not him, but;
I've been to Moscow and I have no fucking idea where do you come from with this economically better thing. Moscow is a fucking shithole outside the center and the rich peoples housing, when I walked into a block in which a PROFESSOR was living I nearly vomited because it was stinking of piss and trash(and trash were all around).
Stop the fucking bullshit saszka.
What is there to do here fellow Masuriens and Kaliningraders?
I imagine the beaches are nice quiet. Towns littered with flea markets advertising cheap smokes in run downed pre ww2 buildings. Heavy military presence on both sides.
Is it comfy to live here?
>>61505514
>public transporations
/n/ fag here, I won't argue with any of the other points, I'll leave that up to the Russian but Moscow has a world class metro system, far superior to anything in Polan m8.
>>61505577
>a world class metro
Have you ever used this soviet metro? It smells with urine and is constantly overcrowded to the limit of usage.
>>61505531
I'm from Olsztyn and there's fuckloads to do. I made this post >>61502968 .
>Towns littered with flea markets
Not really, there's a few but not many.
>cheap smokes
Smokes in Poland cost like 4 euro, they're already cheap.
>run downed pre ww2 buildings
Some, some are fixed and look great.
>Heavy military presence on both sides.
Yes.
The region where I live in, Warmia is known from castles, lakes, palaces, Copernicus, Teutons and overall history. It's super comfy and getting better and better with each year.
The Russian side is dead. I shit you not they destroyed everything there was or left it to rot.
>>61505699
>Smokes in Poland cost like 4 euro, they're already cheap.
Cigarettes would cost 1 euro if they weren't heavily taxed.
>>61505724
I know, it's sad but what can we do. I smoke the cancerjew and it hurts me as well.
Fucking CroRATS stealing our tourismbux RRRRREEEEEE
>>61502606
>polish tourists
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/08/11/polish-couple-fall-off-cliff-and-die-while-taking-selfies/
>>61505928
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3397580/Forestry-scientist-getting-lost-two-days-forest-Polish-expert-companion-discovered-search-rescue-teams-Thailand.html
>>61506046
http://forums.vr-zone.com/chit-chatting/3226792-thai-ladyboy-bludgeons-tourist-high-heels.html
>L-LEAVE MY HUSBAND ALONE OR I KILL YOU
>K-KURWA
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>61506274
http://www.chiangraitimes.com/drunken-polish-tourist-assaulted-with-steel-hook-by-pattaya-bar-bouncer.html
>>61506299
http://georgiatoday.ge/news/2853/Rescuers-Save-Two-Polish-Tourists-in-Gudauri
There's so much of this shit.
>>61506372
http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/77576275/Polish-tourist-rescued-after-mountain-search-on-Mt-Taranaki
>Smith said they located the man at 6pm on Carrington Ridge, about half way between North Egmont and Holly Hut, "quite a way off the main track".
>>61506408
http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/12977464.VIDEO__Two_Polish_tourists_rescued_by_lifeboat_crew_after_rising_Thames_tide_cuts_them_off/
>Two Polish tourists had a more dramatic day out in London than expected when they were rescued by a lifeboat crew after being trapped by the tide on the Thames.
>>61506468
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/colombia/12068243/Watch-Colombian-Air-Force-rescues-two-Polish-citizens-from-Amazon.html
>Tominik Szzepanski and Masiej Tarasin were lost in the Colombian Amazon and had called for help.
>One of the men had been bitten by a snake and needed urgent medical attention.
>>61506516
http://www.islandconnections.eu/1000003/1000043/0/43847/daily-news-article.html
>A Polish tourist had to be airlifted from the Masca hills after suffering a fall while hiking at the week-end.
>>61506274
>>61506299
>>61506372
>>61506468
This one is turbo-bydło story
>>61506570
Kek I know that one.
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http://www.thelocal.it/20140829/polish-tourist-dies-by-romes-spanish-steps
>The Polish woman died after falling 15 metres from the terrace of the Casa madre della Congregazione della Resurrezione convent
>polish sea
>>61502606
>Polish sea
Top kek
even the freaking Channel sea is better
>>61506627
>>61506646
D-don't laugh at us. We lost access to the Black Sea and that's what we got now.
>>61505132
Austria is cool but too much expensive for us. Popular skiing destiny though
>>61506708
yes we lost it ;-D
>>61506627
>>61506646
It's no Croatia but it is still pretty nice.
>>61506800
It's all because of your vetos and ukrainian bitching.
Way to ruin one of the best countries in history.
>>61506952
To be completly honest, it was never gonna work in the end. Even if we had to been together till ww1 we would probably still seperate cuz of rising nationalism and shit.
>>61507013
Few hundred years of being "strong" is considered working out in my book.
>>61507078
Well we did become victims of being under polish influence, in alternative history if you were the one being under Lithuanian influence i dont think you wouldnt vetto and shit.
>>61507114
Who knows. Besides "victims" is a harsh wors and you know it. At that moment there was no better place in the world, than PLC, for national minorities..
>>61502606
>map of terrorist attacks in europe and vicinity
>>61506626
>cultural appropriation
Falling from balconies is a Canadian pastime.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/10/18/canadian_woman_on_honeymoon_in_mexico_dies_in_balcony_plunge.html
>>61510434
>ETA, IRA and corsicans still going strong
nice
>>61510434
fake map
>>61510434
I'd prefer Europe to be a clean of those red dots, but well I guess Poland is safe, so that's something.
>>61510434
>be retarded
>trying to make a point on the internet
>use fake map
the case in northern sweden bacame a scandal after the media claimed that an innocent guy was guilty of having terroristic plans.
