>man
>men
>woman
>women
>human
>humans
>not humen
Explain this anglotards.
Humans sounds a lot better for one.
>>61490822
>sounds a lot better
Pretty much the answer to all and any questions about the mysteries of the English language.
Goose
Geese
Moose
Moose
box
boxes
fox
foxes
ox
oxen
>>61490897
pretty much, its a shit show
>human
>not hue-man
Explain this shit you raciss white motherfuckas
>irregular verbs
>>61490728
I've never heard anyone pronounce "human" with a short "a". Everyone I know already pronounces it "humen".
drink drank drunk
eat ate eaten
????????
> Expecting English to be logical
Lmao, we just made that shit up
plural of mouse is mice
so why isn't the plural of house, hice
>>61490728
i once succesfully convinced a puerto rican the plural of sheep is shoop
English is a weird language. It can be understood through tough thorough thought, though.
>>61491151
Or cows, cice (with a hard c, like car)
I always used to say the house/hice thing. Still do in my head 2bh
>>61490728
They don't tell you in school that Modern English is a clusterfuck?
twa twi twu twe two
ay vondır if ay rayt layk dis ken anglos andırstent mi?
>>61491204
>>61491351
yes
>>61491351
Yes
>>61491026
I can't even name any off the top of my head except to be
I mean I'm sure we have a lot of them I just don't know them
>>61491421
fak :D
>>61491351
pretty qt accent 2bh
>>61491351
yas
Pretty uninformed thread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut_(linguistics)
Happens in the majority of Germanic languages, English is no different. Nouns of this type are termed 'strong' nouns, much like 'strong verbs' which take an umlaut in the preterite (past) tense. Weak verbs take the dental suffix (-ed/t), nouns obviously take -s.
There used to be more strong nouns, eg
> book -> books
> bok -> bek
There are set rules to follow for umlaut; most reasonably intelligent English speakers can guess
Past tense of.. ?
> to shit
>>61491612
nobody cares nerd lmao
>>61491612
>shat
Because shitted sounds weird. Or you use passive language like
>yesterday I took a shit
I'm full on giggling right now because
>shat
>>61491612
fucking nerd lmao
>>61491612
read none of this
>>61491448
>to be
>>61491721
>>61491712
>>61491732
Linguistics are super interesting, anons!
>>61491758
another nerd lmao
>>61491758
get a life lmao fag
>>61491720
Past tense of 'pling'?
It's made up, but see how your natural English ability shows you the right umlaut.
>>61491612
>shit
Stopped reading there.
>>61491758
get in the locker nerd
Am I the only one who feel somewhat embarrassed when I have to say words like "sheet" and "beach" because they sound exactly like "shit" and "bitch"
>>61490728
>humans
seems interesting, is it any good
>>61491874
No, because they sound completely different.
>>61491874
they don't sound the same
sh it. sh eat
bee ch, vs bit ch
unless ofc you are not trying
>woman
>wuh-mahn
>women
>wih-mehn
>>61491874
>sheet
>beach
>shut
>butch
>>61491794
I'd say... plung... like fling/flung.
>>61491797
>>61491785
>>61491772
Pffffff, you're just jealous of our natural aptitude for sciences.
>>61491874
Shit and bitch have very short vowels, sheet and beach have long vowels, especially in the Midwest and West Coast
You don't go to the bitch unless you're some Aussie cunt, you go to the beeeeech.
>>61491874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZs0S7qd64
throwback wednesday
>>61491915
>>61491948
They do sound the same, stop pretending
>>61492018
no, unfortunately you have no ear for this
>>61490728
is it not similar in Portuguese?
In Irish it's
fear
fír
bean
mná
duine
daoine
>>61491987
Exactly. Like 'sing' 'sung'
>>61492018
Not really. I have a native accent, so I can pronounce the words properly.
>>61492018
it's american english but it's more or less the same everywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVJ-kEAx7Pw
>>61491448
>I can't even name any
to swim
to drink
to buy
to begin
to build
In short, all the fundamental ones which express basic activities and actions.
>>61492044
>>61491915
>>61491948
Pronunciation is pretty fluid, honestly. It depends on location and can change quickly.
canadians are the nerds of /int/
>>61492084
'Build' is a regular verb, bro.
The 'ed' is elided to 't'.
>>61492067
Have you ever read Bill Bryson's book The Mother Tongue? Really good read if you enjoy etymology.
>>61492129
>The 'ed' is elided to 't'.
Yep, which makes it irregular.
>>61490728
wtf I hate english now!?
>>61492162
No, I tend go more hardcore. Linguistics is a bit of an obsession.
>>61492172
No, it doesn't. The past tense is made exactly the same way as every other weak verb.
The 'e' of 'ed' is never stressed (except in certain old fashioned words like 'learned' the adjective), and when two 'd's come together, they're always devoiced into 't'.
> builded > built
>>61491795
>.
Stopped reading there
>>61492303
Stopped.
>>61492277
I know you're a native speak and usually it means there should be no discussion but that's not the case with English because you people don't have grammar classes in school.
>>61492162
As a Canadian, what would you say is the past tense of the verb 'told'?
We have a strange word here in my part of England.
>>61492403
>a native speak
Oh I fucked up
burn
burnt
burned
burning
>>61490728
>Human
>Hu-MAN
>>61492410
Told is already the past tense of tell.
>>61492403
Except I'm actually educated.
Some call 'build' an irregular verb, but it really isn't. It's made in the same way as every other regular verb - by adding 'ed'. But since 'build' ends with a 'd' already, that would cause an awkward 'builded' (which was actually the old fashioned way to pronounce it)
With time, it has become 'built'. Trust me.
>>61492467
I think hes trying to say its 'telled' where he lives
>>61492467
Ha. I fucked up. I meant 'tell'.
In northern England, we say 'telt'. We seem to have kept the strong verb here.
> I telt him to go there.
>>61492277
>Linguistics is a bit of an obsession.
Literal and unironic autist.
>>61492531
We say that too in sussex
>>61492486
>mould
>moulded
>>61492064
What?
Homem
Homens
Mulher
Mulheres
Humano
Humanos
>>61492531
>>61492583
Oh, that's interesting. Any other weird conjugations?
>>61491998
Never gets old
>>61492531
i think it's really cool how many different accents you have on that one little island
in america we only have like 5-6 different accents and we're many times your size
really makes me think
>>61492586
That's different, the diphthong means the stress comes on the 'ou'
> MOWlded
The short 'i' sound in 'bild' is awkward when next to 'ded'.
Also, English really doesn't follow rules that well.
>>61492638
Its hard to think of them unless you realise them as you say them because theres kind of a barrier between what you write and what you say. Like if I was talking I might say n'alf for not half instead of just 'very' or 'really'
>verb-some-radom-thing
>verb-ons
>verb-ez
>verb-ent
Explain this Frenchies.
>>61492458
I know, it's disrespectuful for jewish reptilians
>>61492760
all latins do this
>>61492760
Blame latin, portuguese, spanish and italian also have something similar
>>61492684
There may be 5-6 general classifications of accents, but there is way more than 6 literal accents in America. Pennsylvania alone probably has at least 4 or 5
>>61492760
Doesn't it depend on the pronoun?
>>61493303
yes. Je, tu, il, vous,...
>>61493303
subject verb agreement
>>61490728
Because generally speaking an s at the end of a word indicates it is plural.
>>61493303
>>61493356
It depends on the person and number, and the pronoun also depends on the person number.
>>61491874
know that feel, bruh
In British English, there's also can't and cunt. Thx god murcans pronounce the first one just like kent
>>61493704
what? I don't pronounce it that way at all
>>61493704
few people says it kent
most say it k-ant
>>61493797
>>61493768
No, he meant "cahnt" (/kɑnt/)
>never listened in English classes
>never learned single one of the "rules" they shove down your throat
>all my English skills were from browsing 4chun and playing multiplayer games
>always went "by ear" in English tests
>top 10% of country in matriculation examination
>>61493879
yes the brits say it like the german philosopher
>>61494047
> there's no British accent
There are about a hundred thousand ways to say this in England.
I say kannit, but karnt is probably more widely said.
>>61494025
Same, desu
Which makes me horribly fail at grammar exams.
>>61493797
kent ent kant saund ze seim desu :)
>>61494143
Why would you slip an R in there? I prefer to use the scots word Cannie though
>>61494170
> ze
I truly feel sorry for foreigners and the complete inability to pronounce the two 'th' sounds.
>>61494193
'karnt' is the southern way to pronounce it, and southerners can't pronounce pure vowels.
That's why the foreigners (above) are confused by can't and cunt - to northerners they sound utterly and completely different.
änglous känt anderstän tis :DDDDDDD
>>61490728
Because "human" is from Middle French "humain" (ultimately from Latin "humanus", "homo"), and isn't related to "man" at all.
something similar to man-men also exists in some Germanic languages (mostly North-Germanic). This process is called the (Germanic) umlaut - foot/feet, mouse/mice are the same thing.
Swedish: man-män
Norwegian: mann-menn
Icelandic: maður-menn
Danish: mand-mænd
German: Mann-Männer
But e.g Gothic has manna-manns/mannans.
>>61494373
Wish I knew what that said
>>61494373
tei ar veri rtards :DDDDDDDD
you can take out all they vowels out
lk ths nd t cn stll b ndstd, mgc
>>61493704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHzDxi73v8
south african accent btw
Why do some people who can't pronounce /ð/, replace it with /z/? /d/ is the only logical choice, since it sounds better.
>>61494553
f is how children do it, it is the most proper
>>61494429
jees tei aar :DDDD
>>61491170
that's impossible, we're so Americanized we know English better than you
>>61494553
Because ѳ/ð are just s/z pronounced with a little bit different tongue position. I don't understand how people can hear them like t and d.
>>61494606
This. 'f' is probably more beneficial, as 'þ' and 'ð' are only a short tongue flick away.
>>61494553
I feel bad for non-natives trying to learn the "th" sounds. It seems like nobody except a couple of anons on voccaroo can get it right
>>61490728
>humen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULWgEnnmcv4
>>61494732
I can't think of any English dialects having /s/ and /z/ for "th".
Some front it to /f/ and /v/, and some pronounce it as /t/ and /d/ (not sure on the last one, but I think some american dialects do it)
>>61495049
>I can't think of any English dialects having /s/ and /z/ for "th".
None do but some foreign accents do it. Most famously, the French and Germans
>>61494553
>/d/ is the only logical choice
Good taste my friendo, futa is the patrician choice.
>>61490728
the "s" for pluralization was introduced by the danish -- before that, dutch "en" pluralization ruled. words like "men," "oxen," etc were too popular to change, but "humen" wasn't very common and was changed to "humans"
>>61494152
adverbs come after nouns -- you failed horribly
>>61491874
wut
>>61490728
Namastee, kare lektisha!
Pa dey 12 mes 4 yar 1961 eventi unney kosmoflaisa
de jen. Toy jen es Yuri Gagarin. Walaa taney
saje worda.
Kom sempre, oli yur leta e makala gei swaagati.
Also skribi ba kwo yu yao e sendi it a nu to
redaktitim de “Jiva” via FasKitaba o via Lideplasait.
Grohao lekting!
>>61490728
>BRs can't even grasp English, by far one of the simplest languages
We invented a language that even retarded pooloo colonies can understand and you STILL can't?
>>61491026
The you would hate romance languages and especially french. French is nothing but irregular verbs.
>>61492567
Linguists are the most autistic scientists. Not even physicists are as bad.
>>61496191
Huh, I know a guy who studied linguistics who also happen to be genuinely autistic
really makes you think
>>61495049
>/t/ and /d/
>I think some american dialects do it
not that i'm aware of, but i know that irish people do it
>>61496115
Lidepla kom basa fo nove jengunlingwas
2
Sikom exista de lidepla es yo janney pyumeno chaurem,
oni zai begin kreati nove proyekta de jengunlingwa basen on
lidepla. Nu koni pluri tal proyekta, bat nu sal mensioni sol
dwa la, bikos pluri otre (pa exampla, la de nuy amiga Robert
Winter) es yo kwiten, tanto ke nu jan.
>>61496125
>we
>>61490728
human comes from latin
man and woman come from Old English
>>61496319
>human
>woman
We should make... "moman" for male humans.
Anyone here ever just make up past tense or past participle forms of verbs when they can't think of the actual past tense off the top of their head? I literally will say it before I think it.
I've said the made up words so many times that in my head they've become ingrained as the real word sometimes
>Aten (like Ate + eaten) instead of Eaten
>Moven instead of moved, I've moven away
>Tooken instead of taken
>Tilt instead of told sometimes
>Kilt instead of killed
>>61496845
>tilt
It's TOLT.
As in, I TOLT you I'd smack the shit out of you if you didn't take your Ritalin and behave, Wesley!
>>61492084
I swim
You swim
He/she/it swims
We swim
They swim
That's normal right?
>>61490897
Just blame William the Conqueror. That's what I do.
>>61496973
I swam
You Swam
He/she/it swam
We swam
They swam
it's an irregular verb
>>61497017
I've swum
You've swum
He she it swum
We swum
They swum
>>61497082
>>61497017
>>61496973
I wumbo
You wumbo
He/She/it wumbo
Wumbo
Wumboing
The study of Wumbology
>>61497082
What the fuck is going on
>>61497082
they're both correct, what's your point? they're both still irregular verbs
>>61497082
>>61497017
>swim, swam, swum
>dim, dam, dum
>flip, flap, flup
>ding, dang, dung
>>61491109
do did done
go went gone
>>61490728
Explain why your language has feminine and masculine nouns
why is a fork masculine?
>>61491204
thoroughly thought through, though
>>61497230
Because um garfo flows better than uma garfo.
believe/believed
I want it to be
believe/beleft
>>61497230
So we can laugh at foreigners trying to speak it.
>>61497230
I just realized this was obsolete after learning English.
>>61497322
Ükʰu attál în-n uhednaláň
>>61497230
this is the biggest hurdle for me learning any foreign language. It's something so fundamental to almost every other language that we just completely dont have
>>61496845
>>61496907
Where I live people say "tode" for told.
>tfw english is retarded
>>61497731
lay
>>61491874
I know this feel because I never get it right
>>61497759
you're lying
>>61497417
Just try to imagine cocks, cunts and assholes for each noun...
Der Baum (m, tree) -> its trunk is big -> like my cock -> masculine
Die Katze (f, cat) -> cats are for fat feminists -> cunt -> feminine
Das Leben (n, life) -> your life is shit -> asshole -> neuter
>>61498075
der Rock
das Mädchen
>>61497811
But they don't sound the same. Especially if you're Brazilian you should be able to tell the different vowels in those words. Also Bitch has that full unaspirated "t" in the middle that makes it sound more rough than beach.
>>61491271
>Why isn't the plural of cows, cice
>>61497230
because he sexually identifies himself as a male, you cis scum
>>61498787
der Rock (m, skirt) -> manly scots with skirts -> masculine
das Mädchen (n, girl) -> diminutive -> neuter
