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What's the actual best state in the USA? I'm being serious with this one.
Discuss. No meme answers.
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>>61472004
"best" is completely relative in this case
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Obv. California
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Objectively nowhere in the south

Other than that, "best" is largely subjective. Washington is nice, New Hampshire is nice, I love california but a lot of people hate it, but there's just so much to do

Utah is actually extremely beautiful and not as crazy religious as you'd think, it's an outdoorsmans paradise
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OP is just trying to figure out a good state he can send his cousins to and begin shitting it up
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>>61472224
Fuck! I've been discovered! Uhh... Ummm... TACOS TACOS BURRITOS... YOU DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.... TACOS
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Arizona
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>>61472004
Massachussets is the only correct answer.
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>>61472004
It's objectively Maine

>whitest state
>lowest rate of violent crime despite having less law enforcement per capita than any other state
>top tier New England foid, culture, architecture, scenery, seasons, and history
>long association with the arts including Stowe, Whitman, Longfellow, Hawthorne, etc
>long assiciation with sciences including the largest US manufactuerer of semicunductors, and the latgest private mammalian research facility on earth
>top tier educational opportunites like 3 of the "little Ivies," UMaine system, UofNew England, Maine Maritime Academy, and several top ranked secondary academies. Even community colleges that routinely rank high
>best politics, Maine elects more 3rd party and independent canidates than any other state and even their partisan politicians are famously centerist
>most rural state (city folk are a shit)
>top tier recreations like sailing, whale watching, canoeing/kayaking, salt and fresh water fishing, hunting, camping, etc.
>Good, safe, all white, neighbors
>No Mexican nonsense, one of only a few states where Spanish isn't the 2nd most common language, it's Français
>One of only 3 states with less than 50%+ of the population extremely religious
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Georgia is underrated desu
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NorCal, Colorado, Oregon, Washington or New England
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>>61472004
probably MA

I live in TX and it's a hellhole
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>>61472777
This is a big one
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Arizona
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As a New Yorker, I think my state is the best, but looking at it objectively, it's Massachusetts. Not a single thing that they don't blow everybody the fuck out in.
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>>61472777
I can second this as I love Arizona, also it has the best gun laws in the nation, cheap land too, cmon senpai only problem is Mexicans but they're stuck in the south side of Tucson and niggergales
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>>61472004
In my opinion all states in the Deep South (Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Northern Florida) are perfect


>Southern cuisine
>Southern music
>There is no liberals (except in big towns like Austin)
>Very hot climate
>Friendly people
>You can HUNT AND EAT ALLIGATORS JESUS CHRIST THIS IS AMAZING

This is just the opinion of an European redneck who loves the Dukes of Hazzard and Johnny Rebel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTChaucaM0s
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>>61472004
Depends on what you like.

I like mountains, the sea, and rainy weather so Washington is my best state.

But if you like hunting, snow, football, and cheese, Wisconsin is best.
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>>61473208
>Friendly people

really ?
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Alaska, looks comfy as fuck
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>>61472709
I live there it's the best state in the south and better than most flyovers but it's still kind of shit
I like living here for the most part but we have a lot of stupid fucks here
Oddly high hispter population
Oddly high black republican pop too
The racists are pretty tame here no real racial tension.
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>>61474162

in my experience most ameriguns are friendly
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>>61472004
Washington state, top tier nature, top tier people (aside from seattle), fastest internet in USA, very rich, very safe, very white
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>>61474082
no hunting up in washington? I'm sure theres lots of spots
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>>61473208
I live in middle georgia and the "no libs" is wrong my town is uber religous and also pretty liberal
Also places like atlanta,athens, and Savanah are pretty liberal and full of hispters and minoroties
also people here are anti European even though they are white. Super stupid.
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>>61474311
Seattlites are fine desu, you just have to get past the Seattle Freeze.

>>61474358
Not sure. Hunting isn't really my thing but the Washingtonians I know aren't into it. I'm from the Upper Midwest originally and hunting is huge there.
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>>61472004
Florida seems alright. Good weather and def not a flyover state. No state income tax too
>>61474245
>black republican
I am surprised that such a thing exists outside media coverage
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>>61474444
interesting, I really like hunting and the rockies, best thing about the US imo, I like the south, cowboys and all as well, but I wouldn't wanna live there :DD, i have a cousin in indianna but way too close to gary/chicago and he works in chicago too, which is an unsafe shithole
small towns near the rockies in US/british columbia are maximum comfy, like in Rambo first blood
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Oregon
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>>61474509
>The South

>Cowboys

Pick one

Anyway you *can* hunt in Washington but I can't really speak much about the game as I have no idea. If you want to hunt I'd say really anywhere in the Appalachians or somewhere out west depending on what/how you want to hunt
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>>61474509
I'm from the Chicago suburbs which are pretty white, but even the blacks and Mexicans in the suburbs are fine. Most of the people who caused trouble in my high school were eastern european.

Anyway, the US's best thing is really the outdoors, I just happen to live in the worst part of it for that. I lived in Colorado for 2 and a half years and it was the best, my main hobbies are skiing, climbing, mountaineering, etc.
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>>61474583
mexicans are chill but I don't like american blacks at all, only been to the US once and thats the impression I got any way, rockies are beautiful, my favorite mountain chain, nicer than the alps imo, inhabited by much nicer people as well
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>>61472004
it's Idaho
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>>61474674
Which state did you see the rockies in, btw? It can be pretty different depending on which part you're at.
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>>61472004
Objectively Texas
New York(excluding NYC) might be tied
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>>61474659
>Chicago suburbs
The ones by the lake?
>>61474509
>cowboys
that is Texas or Arizona
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>>61472777
>Any part of California
>Good
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>>61474659
yeah there's lots of balkan/eastern euro criminals in chicago as well, don't like it at all, but like I said those small towns up in the north, you know what I mean, small towns and small town suburbs like the ones in the twilight zone, uuuuuuuuurghhhhhh so comfy, I envy the people who were born there
>>61474728
idaho and wyoming, took a "road trip" with my cousin when I visited, top tier mountain chain but my favorite state at least out of the ones I visited was by far washington state, its a bit expensive but that's probably because of the high min wage compared to other states
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>>61474802
If that map was meant for OP (w/ Mexican flag), the map seems legit
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>>61474763
West suburbs, DuPage County to be exact. The North burbs on the lake are pretty rich, but take a drive on 31st street in Oak Brook, or go through Hinsdale.

Glen Ellyn is pretty loaded too.
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I have cousins in Pennsylvania. How well did they choose?

I really like hinterland Washington, Idaho and Montana. Washington was always my favourite U.S state. Utah looks grand too, but the upper Rockies area is the best
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>>61472670
Glorious Maine
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>>61474906
gtfo ante that's my waifu region reeeeee
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>>61474818
I'm honestly not too thrilled to be from/living in the Chicago area, just not a lot for me to do around here. I'm thinking of taking up ski jumping at this place in the North Suburbs.

Anyway, Washington was expensive even before the $15 min wage, that's part of why they passed it (not saying it was or wasn't a good idea). $15 in Washington doesn't take you as far as it would in a state like Nebraska or Kansas.
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I've only been to California, Nevada, Arizona, Ohio, and Florida.

Out of all of those I prefer California to be honest. I love the ocean and mountains too much.
I'd probably vouch for all of the Pacific Northwest for that reason.
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>>61472004
>>61474082
>>61474311
Washington (and to an extent Oregon) is like America's own personal Scandinavia.

>>61474463
I'm in Florida. By good weather you mean stupidly hot and idiotically humid. It's great if you want (almost) year-round water sports, but other outdoor activities become miserable sweat fests.
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>>61474906
>How well did they choose?
Depends on if they live in one of the cities
Rural Pennsylvania is great
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>>61472777
>suburbia helicopter-gender vegan california
>good
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>>61474753
>t. redneck

New York is the best city on the planet, entire world at your fingertips 2bh

>>61474802
California is objectively the most desirable state

How many songs are written about your flyover
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>>61474998
How different even is Oregon? It just seemed like Washington but without as big of a metro area.
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>>61474980
>Out of all of those I prefer California to be honest.
The nature in NorCal is the only redeeming quality of California


>>61475059
I think he's saying that Mexishits should stay in SoCal

>>61475080
Jew York is full of cunts
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>>61475103
Would prefer Wyoming or Montana
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>>61475103

Because it's irrelevant.
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>>61475129
You've never been, have you? memes hit you hard
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>>61475129
>NorCal
Haven't the filed for partition into Jefferson state? Hope they actually manage to separate
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>>61475103
Because none of us have ever been
I'd love to go though

>>61475161
I have. Cities just aren't for me I guess
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>>61475140
and that's a bad thing how exactly?
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>>61474520

I'd to live there if I could live in a rural area with no hipsters and faggotniggers
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>>61475166
>Haven't the filed for partition into Jefferson state?
I haven't heard about it, but I doubt Congress would let it happen
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>>61475178
>I have. Cities just aren't for me I guess

They're not "for" most people here because for a city to be "for" you you'd actually have to regularly go outside and enjoy everything a city has to offer

Most people here just want to stay inside on the internet, why pay extra to live in a city to do that?

If I lived somewhere like NYC, London, Tokyo etc I'd almost never be home, I'd always be out doing something when not at work
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>>61475085
Pretty much this. Other benefits are a larger mountain range and proximity to Canada.

The Seattle Freeze is definitely a thing, I've found Oregonians to be on average a bit friendlier to new people. They also seem to be slightly more outdoorsy.
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>>61475006
Buttfuck nowhere Pennsylvania...
Central(?). But most of that family branch now lives in Ohio

>>61474935
Ceгa e мoј нaјдoбpи peгиoн :^)
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>>61475103
How is the employment and money situation out that way?
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I don't care what anyone says desu Idaho is the best state filled with the best people.
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>>61475129
Is NorCal's nature its only redeeming value because of political reasons? It's not like you'd bring a glock on vacation anyways.
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>>61475393
3.8% unemployment rate so pretty good desu
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>>61472777
Kill yourself
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>>61475161
He's right. We are huge cunts. That's just part of the attitude.
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>>61475486
How about politics? It looks really comfy out there if you love nature. There is some good nature here but most of it is owned by hunters and annoying shit.
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>>61472718
North Cali is shit compared to Southern California but probably best compared to literally any other state
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>>61475328
Less tech boom people? I really really really wanna move to the PNW but I want a career in space physics research/engineering with space stuff so I'm probably gonna end up at JPL or in Houston or something.
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>>61475371
>Buttfuck nowhere Pennsylvania...
Great choice t.bh
Rural Pennsylvania is amazing in the fall and winter

>>61475453
>because of political reasons?
Nah, I just don't like SoCal
They keep moving to my state and fucking up the housing prices
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>>61475620
>space physics research/engineering with space stuff
Mb you might end up going to SpaceX?
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If I were to visit Alabama, would I be forced to squeal leike a pig while getting my anus forcefully violated?
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>>61475544
A lot of ranchers are fine with you going on their land if you have permission. Wyoming and Colorado have really nice public outdoors land that's hardly ever crowded. I lived in Fort Collins and there were some mountains up to 13,000 feet within 2 hours of town that I climbed and didn't see a single person that day. No entry fee, either.
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>>61475620
>I want a career in space physics research/engineering
There's a spaceport in Midland Texas
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>>61475681
Yes
This happens in all Southern states, not just Alabama
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>>61475657
That's in SoCal. Boeing is in Seattle and they do a little bit of space stuff, but with that I might end up doing defense work I'm not too interested in.

What I'd really like doing is planetary science and designing research probes/satellites along with manned spacecraft (long term plan is a PhD in Planetary Science and MS in Aerospace Engineering).

NASA Ames hires people doing both, and that's in the Bay Area which I have mixed feelings on.
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>>61474674
What does a Macedonian know of mexicans and American niggers?
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>>61475620
We will have a technological boom in Like, Croatia now. The Swiss will make a space station and all that jazz. Thr land is beautiful and fertile, 10 people/km2, mountains, fields, rivers, and thr sea is close
Please immigrate, and brig thr following:
Honest middle class American families, doctors/nurses, physicists, bankers and someone political, like Trump
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>>61474162
The south of all has the most friendly people.
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>>61475818
as I said visited northern US тbh got a cousin there and we took a road trip around northern USA
I've always liked the twilight zone, rambo 1, all those things that show those comfy suburban american places, 2comfy honestly, I think I prefer americans to most europeans
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>>61475862
>Like
Lika*
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> Utah and Colorado

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/misty-snow-plowright-transgender-congress-224921

Discuss.
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>>61475620
>>61475732

Portland is huge on tech, not as massive as Seattle of course. Mostly programming jobs and condensed matter physics and engineering (semiconductor industry). But there are huge defense contractors there like Northrup and Boeing (for research and product development).

>>61475773
Yeah, MS or PhD is probably the best shot at getting hired. SpaceX is sucking up all of the best talent in the country since they are the least evil space contractor. SpaceX does have RnD in Seattle. I just graduated in Phys and Math, looking for programming yobs.
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>>61474966
Same thing is happening in California. It's going up gradually until it hits 15$/hour
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Not louisiana
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>>61475887
>Northern American blacks
Sorry that was your introduction to American blacks
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I met a black man from New Jersey one time and he says it's New Jersey (because New Jersey and NYC are the exact same thing).
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>>61475862
>Trump
Why do people assume all Americans like that guy?

Anyway, I'm a centrist (maybe with a few left sympathies), and have a Portuguese gf who has similar training to me. We're both prepared to live in pretty much anywhere in Europe or the Anglosphere, and honestly Croatia seems cozy as fuck. We'll consider this.
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>>61475085
Oregon is like an entire state of rural northern Californians if they all did meth
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>>61475975
>Why do people assume all Americans like that guy?
Because he's not Shillary
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>>61475962
the ones in chicago are pretty awful, the ones in the south are better I take it?
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>>61475903
>SpaceX

I have mixed feelings on that. They do really cool work but they burn out their engineers like crazy. Elon doesn't seem like the best boss either, maybe a bit of a Steve Jobs type.

A guy who worked with my dad in the nuclear power industry went on to SpaceX, I might get in touch with him.

My long term goal is to become an astronaut so I'll be moving jobs a lot anyways (i.e. a year in antarctica, a few years at SpaceX, a few years at Johnson Space Center, etc)
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>>61472004
There are none.
They all suck.
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>>61476032
>the ones in the south are better I take it?
I think they're less shit
Here they're just poor and lazy for the most part, the only places where they're a problem is in places like Memphis and Atlanta
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>>61476087
DO SHE EAT ASS??
SHE DO
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>>61476192
older black people are way better behaved than the younger ones, idk what the fuck happened, or why their parents allowed their children to become so badly behaved
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>>61476087
>reverse search
>all sources are in Russian
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>>61476380
>idk what the fuck happened
The divorce rate skyrocketed so the children were left with single mothers that weren't present due to work or drugs

Older black people are better behaved because they have enough self respect not to fall for the welfare meme
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>>61476380
Drugs. Once crack hit the streets it was all over.
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>>61476082
You'll need to learn Russian to a semi-fluent level and be super /fit/.

You'll need to pick up a research specialty that would actually be necessary aboard the ISS. They don't really do much space and experimental physics up there, besides for public relations. A lot of it has to with Biological , medicine, and chemistry.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/experiments_hardware.html
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>>61475166
>California getting more senators
It'll never happen.
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>>61472670
I agree.
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Since Maine and Pennsylvania are the only two states that can compete, I'd say they're the best. If you prefer slightly warmer weather, larger right-wing population, and more variety in geography and towns, go to Pennsylvania. If you prefer seafood, quainter towns, and coastlines, go to Maine.
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>>61472004
California
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california anyone who disagrees lives in a flyover state
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i want to have car there sndf ridi from one coast to another
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>>61472004
i love ohio guys
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>>61472004
California, a place you can do anything you can do in any other state
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It's Mississippi
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>>61474998
We have good weather in Florida, it's perfect 3/4's of the year and too hot during the summer, but Summer weather here is perfect for swimming and other aquatic activities so it works out. Especially if you have a pool, warm night swimming is the best. Northern states have perfect weather during the summer and are freezing and overcast 3/4's of the year. Long, sunless winters are deppressing.
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If you said anything except Maine, you're probably a shitskin.
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>>61474162
South rednecks are way more friendly that your typical guy from NYC or San Francisco
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Tennessee niggers.
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>>61488641
Memphis is a shithole though
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>>61472777

what criteria puts both texas and socal as "good" and pretty much everything else bad?
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Vermont
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>>61472777
"Latinx" detected. Did you include Utah to keep the INS from definitely kicking down your door to just maybe kicking it down Jésus?
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>>61484736
Stay away from any town beginning with C and you'll do okay anon.
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>>61490505
Vermont is exactly like Maine or New Hampshire except it's landlicked and lacks the based seafood and maritime culture.
If you like Vermont best, you will like Maine even better (it's also slightly safer and whiter)
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>>61472004
Kentucky is amazing, grew up there. Schools are great. People are nice. The cost of loving is dirt low and the housing is big but cheap. Only problem is not many jobs. The tristate area is literally a utopia
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>>61488478
Yeah they are nice but its because they are fucking stupid. They are really mean most of the time but they just act fake as shit. At least new yorkers are honest! I just moved to the south and its horrible
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Montana, outside of Little California (Bozeman).
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>>61474082
i like wisconsin for the absurd amount of drinking culture
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>>61472004
all you're gonna get is meme answers because no one here has lived in every state.
Anyway, Florida is objectively the best.
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>>61472004
Heh Nice try beaner
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>>61488689
Its alright if you avoid the bad parts of town.
Eastern TN is objectively superior in every way though.
Probably going to try an move to Chattanooga sometime.
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I like Tennessee, its like the south but they can actually speak English.
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>>61491376
Hello Yankee carpetbagger scum.
Please return to that degenerate kike hole you call a city if you hate it here so much.
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>>61491792
The only issue I have encountered so far in Montana is that used cars are ridiculously overpriced. Every retard with 2000 Ford Ranger for sale wants $7500. I am not sure if it is a weird cultural thing, or if there is a shortage of cars here due to the fact that winter rot ruins cars.
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>>61492033
I haven't lived in every state but I have lived in California, Colorado, Tennessee, and Maine, and I've spent significant time in (as in several months at least) North Dakota and Utah, plus many vists to New York, Massachusetts, Oregon, and Washington, and been through all 48 contiguous states, most of them many times. (Also lived in a Canadian province, visited 3 others, and been to 8 countries)
I can easily and objectively say that Maine is far and away the very best state in America and among the best places on earth.
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>>61472004
any state in new england is pretty good except for a couple shitty areas. Washington/oregon seem pretty good, minnesota, colorado, maybe north carolina and virginia too. almost every state has shitty weather though
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>>61492532
maine has way too many mosquitoes. It's completely unbearable. its also pretty run down in a lot of places
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>>61472004
Bigger is better, therefore Alaska is the best state
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>>61472777
>non-white shit: good
>white states: shithole

Really Juanito? And I'm saing this despite the fact I live in Arizona. California in particular needs to be flushed down the shitter.
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>>61491059
And then you're left with Youngstown, Toledo, Dayton, Athens or Akron. Might as well move to the south.
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Alaska but no one lives there.
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>>61492855
The flies and mosquitoes are pretty bad in warmer months, but not at all along the coast, and I like that "run down" old style fishing village or inland town look and vibe.

If you like clean and modern then stick to like California, I like the rugged little seaside communities that have been weathered by Nor'easters for over a century.
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>>61472670
>ywn live in maine
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>>61472670
>old population
>poor
>tough job market
>Southern Maine is a Boston satellite state
>rapidly growing influx of African migrants
>ticks everywhere
>40 million tourists every year

Don't get me wrong, I like maine. Just bothers me when non-Americans jerk it off as the most perfect state.
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>>61494673
>georgia
>red
if it's so undesirable then why do all these yankee fucks keep moving here
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>>61494890
>old population
That's not really a good or bad thing as far as quality of life is concerned
>poor
Some areas are very poor but quaint and old fashioned, and some are very wealthy like OOB or Bar Harbor
>tough job market
This can be true
>Southern Maine is a Boston satellite state
Exactly, just like based Massachusetts except whiter and safer
>rapidly growing influx of African migrants
Still the whitest state in America
>ticks everywhere
That's anyplace with woods, and no state is more heavily forested than Maine. It's an outdoor enthusiats paradise. Get one of those little tick pullers from like L.L. Bean
>40 million tourists every year
Lots of them young, hit, and all if them helping to create jobs for the "tough job" problem.

>Don't get me wrong, I like maine. Just bothers me when non-Americans jerk it off as the most perfect state.
I'm this guy
>>61492532
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>>61495157
haha, guess I can't crack your enthusiasm! t b h I don't even care much for the problems I listed... except maybe ticks and the older population. More younger Maine natives like pic related would be nice. Portland is a city I'm considering, because the Portland out west seems to be getting flooded with homeless and meth-heads
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>>61472004

Been to all 50, I'll rank them in tiers.

Goat Tier

Washington, Utah, North Dakota, Minnesota, Iowa, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island

Based Tier

Hawaii, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Kentucky, West Virginia, Connecticut

OK Tier

Alaska, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, Indiana, Ohio, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virginia

Shit Tier

California, Arizona, New Mexico, Missouri, Illinois, Michigan, Mississippi, Georgia, North Carolina, Delaware

Worse Than Shit Tier

Nevada, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, Maryland
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>>61472004
montana. it's beautiful, depopulated, and comfy af
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>>61495426
The PacNW is very nice, especially the scenery, but yeah, the drug, homeless, and minority problems are an issue, as are hipsters. Portland, ME has all these of course, but not nearly as bad. And instead of Asians and potheads as your Canadian neighbors, you get the based and culture-rich Canadian Maritimes.
I really am sold on Maine's "The Way Life Should Be," slogan. Basically like living in America's postwar golden era except with modern cars and the internet.
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>>61472004
Its completely relative although its almost assuredly not Mississippi
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>>61495613
This is suprisingly good. I would move Tennessee and Louisiana a bit higher. TN for nothing other than the gorgeous Smoky Montains and Louisiana because it has a very unique and vibrant culture (something America gets criticized for a lack of) even if that culture mostly stems from blacks, dirt poor folk, and the French, it's still unique in all the world.

9.9/10 list altogether, probably the best I've seen.
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>>61495613
I love Mass, and I guess its ultra-liberal policies didn't turn you off to it?

Also, what's with the difference between Utah and Nevada? Aren't they both just western desert states?
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>>61495860
I haven't exactly been to Eastern Tennessee but everywhere else has been pretty much the stereotypical South. And I've only been to New Orleans in Louisiana, that is a pure dindu-infested shit hole. I probably should go to those places you mentioned though.

Thanks though, I'm expecting a ton of butthurt Southerners to piss on this. Only Appalachia is the best thing the South has imo. Great hiking. That being said, I should try the Smokies.
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>>61495979
Massachusetts has a wonderful nature of both mountains and sea the Berkshires and the Atlantic coast are wonderful, it might be the best in that combination. Boston's also not that shit of a city compared to other American ones.

Utah has wonderful mountains and nature, if you like outdoorsy stuff, I highly recommend traveling there. People are extremely friendly in Utah as well.

Nevada has absolutely nothing in it.
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>>61495980
Smokies are part of the Appalachian range, my favorite part until you get up to Acadia National Park in Maine. The Great Smoky Mountain National Park (most visited Ntnl Prk in USA) about half an hour from Knoxville is one of the most scenic places I have seen in North America, Autumn colors there rival even New England's. Definitely worth seeing
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Blue: God tier
Green: Good tier
Yellow: Mediocre tier
Red: Shit tier
Light purple: Who gives a shit tier

Best is probably Massachusetts
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>>61476610
>this
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>>61496128
>California
>God Tier

"No"
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>>61496128
>California
>god tier
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>>61496128
I've seen worse maps
Cali should be yellow, New York green
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Living in Montana has been my dream for a decade, I just don't think there's that many job opportunities there. Maybe if I got a degree in something agriculture related but that isn't really my thing even tho I have been living next to fields my entire life.
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>>61495743
Then it looks like I'm paying a visit to Nova Scotia and New Brunswick for my next Canada visit.
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>>61496202
Pretty much this and I won't have a problem desu.

NY State's nice outside NYC. Southern California alone is what puts California behind. Northern is OK but it's not great.
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>>61496252
Texas and Utah, maybe Arizona as well should also be green
Minnesota yellow
Ohio and NJ red
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>>61473208
You're either highly misinformed or ignorant of how the American South really is.
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>>61496305
>>61496252
>>61496128
to sum it up, the map is better this
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>>61496404
wait made one mistake, an unforgivable one
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Massachussets obvs
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>>61496245
You'll enjoy it
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>>61491059
>Stay away from any town beginning with C
As a person living in a C town, I can confirm this.
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>>61472777
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK
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>>61473105
Are you saying Phoenix is free from Mexicans lmao
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>>61474802
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>>61496321
This. It's not even about the politics. People are just uneducated as hell here and there isn't much to do there at all. It's just boring and empty once you see it for what it is.

Foreigners won't get it. I'm Republican as hell, I support Trump, the South is a mess.
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>>61496827
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Washington is best state

>t. Kentuckian
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>>61472102
ahahahahaha
There are better states to live in if all you really want to be is surrounded by liberals.
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>>61497312
Washingtonian here. Kentucky's bretty cool. One of the few nicer parts of the South desu. Glad you like our state.
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>>61497239
I see very few problems with this
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>>61497404
Because you're from Mexico.
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>>61497420
I was born here.
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>>61497404
>earthquakes, drought, pollution, high taxes, spics, crime, poverty, illiteracy and low IQ

What a paradise
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>>61497404
The problem is your shitty people move to other states and promote that the degeneracy that comes from California there.
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>>61497437
doesn't make you american CHI
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>>61497458
The law says otherwise Cletus.
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>>61497451
That it is.
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>>61497404
>>61497437
Your state has unironically a lower IQ than fucking Alabama.
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>>61497521
When was the last time it was updated?
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>>61497451
>Stop doing things that I don't like.
Is this why you're angry?
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>>61497571
Not even mad, Chico.

You move to places and complain about how shitty it is, then set the tone for how other people view it in return. The Californian exceptionalism is disgusting. Keep it only in the shithole of a state where you belong.
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>>61497631
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>>61497539
Probably before you got another truckload of beaners so it's likely even lower now.
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>>61497631
This. If Cali is so great then why do they constantly move elsewhere and pollute other states with their faggotry? Already did it with Colorado, Washington and Oregon, right now they're doing it to Arizona and Texas. It's like they want the entire west to be one gigantic sissy cuckold empire.
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>>61497705
Says the guy who was stupid enough to not list any of his sources in how own image.
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It depends on what you're looking for. For natural beauty, you can't go wrong with Northern California's forests. For tourism, Washington DC (TONS of museums). Best place to raise a family? Minnesota.
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>>61497751
You are stupid enough to live in Cali, I don't think I could top that.
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>>61497812
What state do you live in?
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>>61497751
>in how own

You're not exactly helping yourself.
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>>61497836
I and O are next to each other.
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>>61497830
Texas.
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>>61497858
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>>61497739
I'm from Washington, the one thing that bothers me the most about Californians is that they complain that people are passive aggressive and not friendly. I think it's a myth. I'm generally nice to people unless you act like a total self-important baboon.

These are also the same people who complain about how expensive it is to live here, yet they were the ones who made it so. Jesus Christ they're this loathsome.
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>>61497869
Laugh at your own double digit IQ Calicuck.
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>>61497882
I've never heard anyone say anything bad about Washington before.
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>>61497882
Isn't Washington expensive af too? Or is that just Seattle?
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>>61497900
The first time I saw someone say anything bad was on the Internet.

I was shocked at first. Then again, every place has its flaws and benefits. I probably dislike the politics here, but I don't let it control how else I think of the state. I have too much else in my life to worry about.
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Alaska.
If you fucked up your life, start over in Alaska.
They have more jobs than people, so wages are super high and requirements are low.
Everyone's from somewhere else, even the native's families have only been there ~150-100 years so they accept everyone from everywhere, unlike in the south or New England where they don't like outsiders

Low taxes, minimal govt interference.

Yes it's cold, but it's warmer than Scandinavia.
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IT'S MISSISSIPPI FOLKS. DEAL WITH IT.
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>>61497941
Jackson and Hattiesburg are alright if you have money. Biloxi is like a scummier Vegas tho.
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>>61497914
Prices are rising up, but they really drove up Seattle's COL since the 90s.

I still can afford things here for the most part. I'd say WA is worth your money anyways, everyone's different though. The problem with Seattle is that literally the wrong people move here and that's what gives it a bad name on 4chan desu. Born and raised here and I can assure you it's not anything like San Francisco.
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>>61475080
>How many songs are written about your flyover

Exactly. Songs, movies, TV shows, that's all Cali has, a media presence, which is more or less a lie. A random girl from places like Nebraska or Iowa gets duped by the media into thinking she can be a Hollywood actress, moves to LA and then spends the rest of her life flipping burgers, sucking off hairy Armenians and live in anal poverty just like the rest of Californians.

Flyover states have more affordable living, higher IQs, less crime, higher percentage of white people, more educated people, lower poverty levels. California just has that media presence.
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>>61497972

Nah they're shit. It's all pure shit. We based doe.
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>>61497981
Have you been overrun with hippies since legalizing weed

I just imagined white kids in bob marley shirts would be driving there like migrating geese
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>>61497972
I'd LOVE Biloxi if it wasn't for the hurricanes.
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Canda
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>>61497981
Rural Washington and Oregon are GOAT, but Seattle and Portland are full of Californians thus they should be avoided at all costs.
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>>61498029
Not really. Only one neighborhood tends to have an infestation of those types. I don't even go there anyways. It's not safe imo.
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montana is literally the best state in the union
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>>61498055

It's alright, everyone on the coast is actually quite nice. Tupelo, Oxford, Starkville also. Everywhere else is ass. We strange tho, we definitely are the strangest state. You have to consider that American music, cuisine and much of its literature was birthed rightchea. Not only that, but we were the literal most racist state in the country. Not a good thing by any means, but it has created quite a tract of land.
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>>61498158
>we were the literal most racist state in the country

Also by far the most black state.
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>>61498158
I think Mississippi is better than Alabama and Arkansas by far. I like some of the history there even though I'm not much of someone who likes the South as it is. Got to see Faulkner's birthplace, it was fun.
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>>61475103
That's gorgeous. I didn't know Coeur d'Alene was a town. I'd only heard of the Indians because of that movie with the guy who plays every single Indian in America
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>>61487385
Uhhh... no. I've been there, and I couldn't wait to get out.
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>>61498158
What's in Oxford other than hammered Ole Miss sluts?

>>61498203
Imagine Louisiana minus New Orleans, that's MS basically. Arkansas might be the most boring and shitty state in America.
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>>61491262
>The cost of loving is dirt low
Is prostitution legal there?
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>>61498188

Yeah, that too. I didn't realize that most people weren't black until I went to college.

>>61498203

Actually never been to Arkansas but yeah Alabama is just shitty whites people where at least MS is shitty white and black people.
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What about Hawaii?
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>>61498231
New Orleans is a shithole. I think it's aesthetically more pleasing than Louisiana too.

Arkansas is literally where the redneck stereotype thrives the most. It is indeed nothing special.
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>>61498231

I lived in Oxford a couple years. First of all, the food. Duh. Second of all, lots of good live music. And if there were a "gay" ( not homosexual but.. hipster ), Oxford is it. Lots of coffee shops, poetry slams, shit like that.
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>>61498267
>New Orleans is a shithole.

I'm not contesting that, but it's a culturally and historically very unique shithole.
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Just come to terms with it. The answer is Florida
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>>61498258
Alabama is just boring and backasswards. At least Mississippi is somewhat interesting. I think along with Georgia it's one of the few Deep South states that actually has a personality and nice enough stuff to do in it. The rest are just white trash and black trash with nothing else more.
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>>61498325
I've been there and it's a shithole with a poisonous water supply
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>>61498264
ridiculously expensive, over double the cost of living in the mainland
Polynesian and Chinese gangs shove pineapples up white people's asses
Everyone smokes meth too

Just imagine an expensive gook shithole where everyone eats shark meat, pineapple big macs and smokes meth and lives in a tent

that's hawaii
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>>61498325
>cubans and old jews
lol
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>>61498325
No.

South Florida is a 3rd world country
Central Florida is flat out soulless
North Florida is boring and backasswards
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>>61498399
Not to mention it's infested with alligators
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>>61498341

Yeah Georgia is great. I'm leaving the south tho. Can't stand the heat. Lived in Colorado a while, probably gonna move back there or maybe Kentucky. I want some snow and less humidity. Lived in Granby, CO and absolutely fell in love with the atmosphere and really enjoyed the long winter.
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>>61498399
South Florida = Caribbean nigger / beaner shit hole

Central Florida = boring burbs and misplaced midwesterners

Northern Florida = basically Alabama
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>>61498264
Not the best place to live, one of the best places to travel.
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>>61498442
I don't think it's heat you really hate, it's the humidity. I've lived in Arizona and Georgia and Georgia was fucking unbearable even though it's less hot than AZ.
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>>61498250
Nevada's the only state that has legalized prostitution.
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>>61472159
Utah is the best desu

t. Ohioan who recently drove across the country and back
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>>61498264
Cool for a vacation, but living there is flat out stupid. They're literally more expensive than New York City with none of NYC's positives.
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>>61498471

Yeah. And I've lived here most of my life, I know this place. Time for change.
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>>61498442
Wow, I didn't know where Granby was, and it looks wonderful. Hope you can go there. I also can't stand Southern heat. I'm so used to Pacific Northwest weather at this point. I have family in Georgia though.
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>>61474162

Compared to the Northeast people in the south are very kind.
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>>61498375
You forgot their love of Spam.
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>>61472777
Outside of parts of alberquerque new Mexico is literally worse than old Mexico
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>>61498545
It's a shit state in general. Basically Texas hillbilly country with more Mexicans.
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>>61498079
What about the areas just outside of the cities? I like nature but I can't be totally cut off from a city
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>>61472004
Washington
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>>61498545
Albuwhatever is the most unimpressive city I've ever visited, it really feels like a glorified truckstop. The only place in NM I like is Santa Fe and even that's only because of its architecture, I wouldn't actually live there.
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