HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE U.S.
Hi Americans. In this thread, I`m gonna to get straight on how you`re explained why homosexuality is the variation of the norm and why it mustn`t be banned. In addition, how different punishments for hate speech towards gays are justified. For instance, dismissal for hate replica towards gays at work or even fining for hate speech in public.
As far as I understand that is justifed this way. The gays don`t bother or hurt anybody. Plus, homosexuality isn`t a mental desease or illness.
So others should mind their own business. Being a gay is a right and it has to be protected. No one can violate human rights. That`s why everybody who expresses their hate to gays must be blamed, got fired or fined.
Do I catch the logic correctly? I bet I do.
However, the same logic is valid for coprophages and naked people walking in public.
Coprophages don`t bother or hurt anybody too, thereby coprophagy is a private matter of a person. So others should mind their own business. That`s why everybody who expresses their hate to coprophags must be blamed, got fired or fined. The same is valid for naked people in public.
So there`s the question to answer. Do you agree that coprophagy and walking naked in public are ok? I bet, the vast majority of Americans would say "Geez! Of course no!". Moreover, the vast majority of them would agree we have the right to criticize and show disapproval to the mentioned people whatsoever.
Therefore, we have the right to criticize gays at least. No one must be got fired of fined for so-called hate speech.
Try to refute my Coprophagy argument.
man I had a pretty good opinion of Russian posters too
would expect this from a Pole
>>61464830
So you have nothing to say excluding demonsrating you disappointment? You`d better try to disprove my argument.
>>61464788
>for hate replica towards gays at work
I meant a hate remark. Not replica.
BUMP
being gay isn't a choice, nor is it a fetish
feel bad that I even fucking replied to this godawful post, i'm very glad we put your country into a recession
>>61465523
>being gay isn't a choice, nor is it a fetish
Really? Don`t you`re tried to prove that one have the right to choose their sexual orientation in America?
> godawful post
Why so?
>>61465523
Fucking this.
Im bi and I didnt choose to be so.
Im also the host of a local pride event this week so if there is any questions about that kind of stuff I might aswell answer.
>inb4 haha sweden gay
How much do they pay in Ediniaya Rossiya to shitpost on /int/?
What the fuck did I just read...
>>61465969
In Russia the common opinion on homosexuality is that thing may be formed during raising, too. So that`s not a genetic programm in all cases. That`s why the propaganda of homosexuality should be banned.
>>61465969
bi just means you're a fag on the fence
you cannot tell a normal person you like to fuck men and not be seen as a fag
>>61465776
Bexause demigender-fluid-helicopter ,,_genders_'' are not real. Homosexuality isn't a choice, but being a fag or gay is. There is a difference.
>>61466118
>In Russia the common opinion on homosexuality is that thing may be formed during raising, too.
>opinion
That migh be your opinion, but the fact is that you are born gay, straight, bi or whatever.
However, it is possible to raise someone into thinking that what they like is wrong and that they must change or repress their sexual orientation. So in one way you are correct.
They will never be compleatly straight but they may consider a heterosexual relationship if a homosexual one is impossible.
>>61466169
I like to fuck men and women. I currently have a gf but before that I had a bf.
I arrange pride events so I really dont care if people see me as a faggot or whatnot.
Any of the LGBT is a mental illness. Homosexuality is a choice. You don't suddenly be attracted to people of your own gender. You were raised that way albeit in a really discrete manner and the parents would usually not even notice that they are doing it. There really isn't any evolutionary advantage for people to be gay in the past and it will certainly have no advantage in the future.
>>61466448
Everybody here needs to read this and realize they're agreeing with fundamentalist Muslims when they're shitting on gay people
>>61466505
Gay people are degenerates anon. Stop being deluded.
>>61466527
Once again, everybody reading this needs to realize they're saying the exact same shit as fundamentalist Muslims
Maybe that'll get people to realize how fucking dumb they're being
>>61466448
>There really isn't any evolutionary advantage for people to be gay
There isn't any evolutionary advantage for people to be retarded either, yet here you are.
The world is full of weird stuff that isnt evolutionary perfect (mutations if you will) but that dosnt mean that there is anything wrong with it. You are born with these mutations and they will stick with you for the rest of your life.
>>61466169
It means I like to fuck both girls and boys. Yep, it means I'm still a fag.
For your learnings Coprophagy isn't a word anyone uses or really knows in English
>>61466583
This dude likely doesn't believe in evolution either so "mutation" is always a bad thing to him
You're on 4chan, choose your battles, this is literally one of the dumbest, scummiest, socially outcast websites on the Internet
>>61466402
I am the same, but why the pride parades?
>>61466583
So, what you're saying is that being homosexual is the same as being retarded. You mean that we need to avoid being gay like we avoid being retarded. You also mean that gay people should be treated the same way as retarded people. Thank you anon. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
>>61465523
I am attracted to feet, I can't help it.
I'm gay and obnoxious fags disgust me. The moment subhuman trannies managed to infiltrate gay community the whole cause went down the toilet.
>>61466673
not really, people come here to post epic new memes and to take part in le anonymoose armee
>>61465523
Can confirm.
I'm gay as fuck.
I never asked for this.
>>61466192
>genders_'' are not real. Homosexuality isn't a choice
So your point it can`t be formed? I hold the opposite view. I don`t kinda support descrimination. However, I`m still not fully positive about the acceptence of gays. That`s because no one haven`t be able to disprove my Coprophagy argumen so far.
>>61466939
*have been able to disprove
>>61466939
Defiling corpses is a crime.
>>61466527
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>>61466990
Just to prove that all third world countries are utter shit and utterly regressive. Please go back to your caves.
>>61466761
>So, what you're saying is that being homosexual is the same as being retarded.
Im saying that both effects you in the sense that they make you less evolutionary perfect and that in both cases you are born with it.
>You also mean that gay people should be treated the same way as retarded people.
Yes, it still means that those who are born with it should be allowed a decent life and be supported and respected.
>>61467079
Coprophagy is shit eating mate
>>61467079
coprophagy means lover of shit
lend lease was a mistake.
>>61466939
You think eating your own shit should be illegal? I think it's disgusting but I don't care if it's done in private. Also it's not illegal to say homosexuality is disgusting
No public sex act is legal in most places.
>>61467094
Nah, what you really meant was retarded people = homosexual people. Thanks to you now I know that being gay is still a bad thing. Thank you for that wonderful information anon. <3 u.
>>61464788
It should be tolerated but I still recognise it as defect. By logic, if it's not a choice it's a defect.
>>61464788
Eating shit is vulgar and many European countries do have tolerance for public nudity, to an extent
Is it normal to be gay but hate gay porn?
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>>61467146
I dont really see the problem then? Theres records of people eating shit for religious rites since ancient times.
>>61467245
Is it normal to be straight and hate porn?
Yes
>>61467207
>shitposting
> <3 u
Thx my gay friend
HETEROSEXUALITY IN THE U.S.
Hi Americans. In this thread, I`m gonna to get straight on how you`re explained why heterosexuality is the variation of the norm and why it mustn`t be banned. In addition, how different punishments for hate speech towards straights are justified. For instance, dismissal for hate replica towards straights at work or even fining for hate speech in public.
As far as I understand that is justifed this way. The straights don`t bother or hurt anybody. Plus, heterosexuality isn`t a mental desease or illness.
So others should mind their own business. Being a straight is a right and it has to be protected. No one can violate human rights. That`s why everybody who expresses their hate to straights must be blamed, got fired or fined.
Do I catch the logic correctly? I bet I do.
However, the same logic is valid for coprophages and naked people walking in public.
Coprophages don`t bother or hurt anybody too, thereby coprophagy is a private matter of a person. So others should mind their own business. That`s why everybody who expresses their hate to coprophags must be blamed, got fired or fined. The same is valid for naked people in public.
So there`s the question to answer. Do you agree that coprophagy and walking naked in public are ok? I bet, the vast majority of Americans would say "Geez! Of course no!". Moreover, the vast majority of them would agree we have the right to criticize and show disapproval to the mentioned people whatsoever.
Therefore, we have the right to criticize straights at least. No one must be got fired of fined for so-called hate speech.
Try to refute my Coprophagy argument.
>>61467283
Right, it's disgusting but there is no problem, it's just insecure Stone Age retards wanting to impose Stone Age values on everybody else
Like the stupid fucking Muslim in this thread
>>61467285
is it though?
>using logic on leftists
it's clear you don't understand them
this is usually more effective:
>every single homosexual is a pedophile and the vast majority are child rapists
this is how the left argues, and anyone who disagrees with you about the above statement is just trying to keep their child rape and snuff film ring going, they are personally murderers and they enjoy killing for its own sake
this is the appropriate level of dialogue to use in US politics
>>61466505
I am nat soc and see gays as much bigger problem then mussies
Make no mistake you freaks will be the first to see the new moon rising
>>61467179
> it's not illegal to say homosexuality is disgusting
Yes that`s not. However, I would have problems if I said at work that being a gay isn`t the norm and I disapprove gay people or something. The same would be if a person state it in public.
That`s how freedom of speech on the U..S. works.
>>61467371
*in the U.S.
>>61467331
>uses typical right-wing statement and argumentation
>this is how left argues
top kek
>>61467371
Yes thats freedom of speech. You are free to say anything you want but you need to remember that it is you who carries all responsibility of what you say.
>only third world countries disapprove of homosexuality
Feels good that I was born in the Netherlands :^)
>>61467371
> I would have problems if I said at work that being a gay isn`t the norm and I disapprove gay people or something. The same would be if a person state it in public.
>dissaprove gay people
Indeed. Just like saying you dissaprove people of some etnicity or religion and that seems resonable to me.
>>61467370
Hahahahaha holy shit you sound like an absolute fucking loser
>>61464788
Humans can't eat feces without making themselves physically ill, however they can have homosexual intercourse in a safe manner.
therefore coprophagy cannot be compared to homosexuality
>>61467371
It's absolutely legal to say this, but don't get butthurt when everybody hates you for it
Freedom of speech is a double edged sword, your stone aged views wouldnt be tolerated in any developed nation and rightfully so
>>61467512
Same here, why do all third worlders have such a hardon for debating homosexuality
>>61467513
>religion
Why can`t I disapprove any ideology such as religion? I mean to criticize it, to state its ideas are wrong and dangerous in some way. I bet I can. That`s democracy, buddy.
>>61467667
What happens if you protest against Orthodox Christianity in Russia?
>>61467667
>Why can`t I disapprove any ideology such as religion?
You can shit on religion as much as you want. There is nothing wrong with that and I do it to. However you can not criticize or be scream shit at someone just because they are religious.
>>61467611
>debating
There's no debate anon. Homosexuality is a disease that needs to be cured. A couple of months in a correction camp would do just that.
I'm have no problem with you if you are homosexualist, but please do not force it on schoolboy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/12/now-boys-can-wear-skirts-to-school---as-new-gender-neutral-unifo/
Or I might have sexual emergency right in middle of street and then become homosexualist too.
>>61467610
>but don't get butthurt when everybody hates you for it
That`s where you tolerance ends. In the medieval ages criticizing of religion was the terrible thing prohibited both by the law and bublic opinion. Now we have the same story concerning gays. Ony the sacred object has changed. Lol
>>61464788
Your arguments are flawed.
Walking around naked in public has an objective impact on others; it's unsanitary, exposes oneself to greater risk of injury, and is largely impractical when dealing with weather and the need to carry things on your person. Further, since nudity is a simple state of clothed or unclothed and easily changed, unlike sexual orientation, there is no real obstacle to requiring that any given individual comply to a requirement on the matter. Ultimately, it's entirely reasonable and strictly beneficial to prevent people from being naked in public.
The coprophagy argument is also flawed, because if performed in the privacy of their own home, and if steps are taken to ensure cleanliness after, there is indeed no valid reason to take action against the practice. Certainly it's unhealthy, but so is smoking, drinking, eating fast food, and any number of other common practices. One cannot be protected from one's self; provided it doesn't impact others, everyone has the right to harm themselves as they like. (to head off the inevitable retort, suicide is a different matter than generic self-harm due to the inherent finality of the act; as a permanent solution to a temporary problem is almost never warranted, suicide prevention is a sound and logical goal in almost all cases)
Ultimately, I'm of the opinion that homosexuality is not something worth making a big deal over and is not an innately negative trait, and that gays should be treated the same as any other person and held to the same standards.
It's that last point which presents the problem, because a gay person who holds themselves to normal standards of public decency is, in everyday life, indistinguishable from anybody else. The only way you can tell someone's sexuality at a glance is if they advertise it themselves, and it's THIS practice, not homosexuality, that presents a problem.
In short, gay people are just people who are gay. Fags are people who are gay and nothing else.
>>61467889
Being gay and being religious aren't the same thing
Man I do not like Russians anymore
I don't even get the obsession with hating gays. At least the dudes who are hardcore racists have an internally consistent reason why they hate blacks/jews/arabs/whatever because they believe that those groups are actively working against them or trying to inflict harm on their people.
Gays just want to be left alone to suck dick in peace.
>>61466118
>In Russia the common opinion on homosexuality is that thing may be formed during raising
General concensus is that sexual attraction is innate from birth, but social pressures can discourage or emphasize particular inclinations.
Basically, if your innate attraction is bi, but society frowns on homosexuality, then your attraction to the opposite sex will be encouraged and thus will overshadow the potential attraction to the same sex. If society later becomes more permissive, one's attraction towards the same sex will not longer be suppressed.
However, if one's innate attraction is purely straight, no about of upbringing can create an attraction towards the same sex. Social pressure and instruction can only increase or decrease one's desires and inclinations relative to eachother; it cannot create them from nothing.
>>61467960
Same fucking retarded reasons as racists, "they're out to indoctrinate our kids into gaydom and are all AIDS pedophiles!"
>>61467818
>A couple of months in a correction camp would do just that.
You cant fix what isnt wrong. But you seem very upset about the fact that ~4% of the worlds population wants to live with someone of the same sex. Does this affect your life in any substantial way?
>>61467802
>However you can not criticize or be scream shit at someone just because they are religious
I share the same point. I can`t mock or tease religious people. However, I can criticize their ideas and claim their totally wrong.
>>61467889
Nobody is forcing you to be gay as in the case with religion though.
>>61467871
>now-boys-can-wear-skirts-to-school
>can
>The schools have either dropped references to girls and boys in their dress codes or have rewritten their uniform policy to say that pupils as young as five can dress in the uniform in which they feel most comfortable.
OH MY THEY ARE FORCING US
>>61467590
Thats a stupid argument.
Also it is my right to get as much ill as I want.
I can abuse drugs and it doesn't hurt anyone so it's my own buisness.
Etc. There can be given billions of example how much of a bullshit this is.
Fact is: That a society works only if people contribute to it.
>let me tell you how logically and morally superior my shithole country is to you first worlders and ignore all opposing evidence
t. Russian intellectual
>>61468040
What exactly are you criticising in gays?
>>61467889
Criticizing gays isn't against the law in the US. You can do it all you want. You can run up and down street calling people faggots and shout homophobic slurs on the street outside the Stonewall Inn if you want.
People are just going to talk shit back and not wanna have anything to do with you. It has literally nothing to do with free speech and everything to do with you being an asshole who can't handle the fact that there are consequences for your actions.
>>61467245
just be yourself m8
youre still a fag though
>>61467283
Koreans still make feces wine. I would never touch it but if they like it, why not?
Russian OP doesn't like homosexuals and doesn't want to see it in society as acceptable behaviour.
>>61467370
sure m8 come and get me, I'll be sure to buy a bottle of baby oil
>>61468173
>Criticizing gays isn't against the law in the US. You can do it all you want. You can run up and down street calling people faggots and shout homophobic slurs on the street outside the Stonewall Inn if you want.
You exaggerate. I`m about to say that I have the right to express my opinion on gays without any consequences for myself. For instance, I must have the right to say what people shouldn`t be granted by the right to choose they sexual orientation in public and prove it by some rational arguments. It appears in the U.S. there`s no such right.
Getting people fired for their ideas is totally wrong. I heards this`re excercized in the U.S.
>>61466448
>There really isn't any evolutionary advantage for people to be gay in the past and it will certainly have no advantage in the future.
Objectively false.
Homosexuality allows a population whose resource requirements have begun to exceed supply to maintain a large working population without accelerating population growth. Homosexual individuals continue to work and provide for society's resource needs without greeting further demand in the form of offspring, increasing the resources available to the children of heterosexual individuals.
There is a reason why stable and developed civilizations with longer life expectancy/lower mortality rates become more permissive of homosexuality (and see lower birth rates among heterosexuals), while unstable and undeveloped ones with shorter life expectancy/higher mortality rates are intolerant (and see higher birth rates among heterosexuals).
In the former, cost per child to integrate and maintain an advanced society outstrips the means which the parents alone can support. It takes the work of three or four people to make a place for a new citizen. Since turnover/mortality is low and return on labor is high, demand for raw manpower is low and it's best to produce fewer, better offspring.
In the latter, cost per child to integrate and maintain a place in society is low, because there are few institutions and organizations to maintain in the first place, reducing overhead labor needs. However since turnover is high and return for labor is low, demand for raw manpower is high and producing few offspring risks losing your providers entirely.
Exclusive heterosexuality ultimately results in unchecked population growth and crash, as seen frequently in nature.
>>61468614
If you're actively homophobic at your job, you're interfering with the company's ability to recruit and keep any top-tier talent that happens to be LGBT. You may also be hurting the company's image. In that case, you're a liability to keep around and should be dismissed.
>>61464788
good one Yuri, are they 'useful ee-diots' too?
>>61468614
>hateful things I say should have no consequences! This isn't fair!
>>61464788
>However, the same logic is valid for ... and naked people walking in public.
people walking around naked are exposing themselves to the public. No one who doesn't want to see it ever has to look at gay sex or shit eating
>>61468782
>If you're actively homophobic at your job, you're interfering with the company's ability to recruit and keep any top-tier talent that happens to be LGBT. You may also be hurting the company's image. In that case, you're a liability to keep around and should be dismissed.
Two can play. The same logic may be used for gay`s dismissall in Russia. However, you would call it discrimination. However, you find dismissal for one negative remark about gays at work is reasonable. Double standards`re detected.
That`s obvious I didn`t mean shouting about my opinion on gay issue on daily basis. I assume only one negative remark may be used to fire you in the U.S.
>>61468958
>gay parade
>>61468614
Look, I think you have a bit of a misunderstanding about what freedom of speech entails.
Freedom of Speech is a specific right granted by the First Amendment of the Constitution, which states:
>"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
The key point is "Congress shall make no law."
The First Amendment exclusively protects an individual from being punished for their speech or views by the government. Private citizens are completely free to exact their own punishments (within the confines of actions governed by law) based on their own opinions and reactions to such speech or views. This is because one's actions are in themselves a form of self expression, and to restrict an individual's ability to respond to the actions of others is in itself a violation of their right to express their views.
You have the right to say what you like, and individuals have the right to reply in kind. If people don't like what you say, they won't like you, and people have the right to shun or refuse to associate with people they don't like.
Prode parades, gay awareness education in public schools, now trannies in the wrong bathroom, &c.
If it really were just s bedroom activity between otherwise normsl adults, a whole lot less people, mysrlf included, would care at all. It's this constant push yo psint everything, everyehere, rainbow by lispy flaming fags that makes homosexuality seem like something that needs supressed
>>61469073
they should cover up more than they do imo but they don't actively have sex in the parade
>>61469134
It's lots of nudity, lots of gay actions, lots of very non-child-free costums.
And if you critisize this you can get a fine here in germany. (A friend of mine was charged for this and got a fine of 400€ and had to go to a psychologists for a year)
Of course not all countries try that hard to supress public oppinion as Germany but still, we still have those gay parades here.
>>61469094
>You have the right to say what you like, and individuals have the right to reply in kind. If people don't like what you say, they won't like you, and people have the right to shun or refuse to associate with people they don't like
Agreed. I`ve wanted to say all along that you mustn`t be dismissed from work just because you think being a gay isn`t ok. That`s all. You also must be fired for being gay.
>>61468614
>prove it by some rational arguments
For example?
>>61469023
>I assume only one negative remark may be used to fire you in the U.S.
In extreme cases only. Generally speaking the only employees held to that sort of standard are public relations staff and spokespeople, and since their job is to be the face of their employer it's expected that they will reflect what their employer wishes in their actions. When a PR staffer calls someone a fag he's putting words in the CEO's mouth, and the CEO receives as much backlash as the staffer does.
Imagine it's the middle ages, and you're a duke. Would you continue to employ your Herald if, after his duties for the day are complete, he spends his time at the bar talking about what a bunch of shitheels the landed knights are? This guy's supposed to speak with your voice; shouldn't you have a say in what he says?
>>61469385
*mustn`t be fired for being gay
>men kissing and holding hands in public is now equivalent to literally fucking shit and streaking in russia
wew lad
>>61464788
I don't think putting your dick in another man's mouth is on even remotely the same level as eating shit.
And public nudity would be fine if 99% of people didn't look like Lord of The Rings monsters.
>>61469397
>In extreme cases only.
"Being a gay isn`t the norm. Men must have love affairs only with women. That`s because being a gay is against the nature. In my opinion you can`t decide your sexual orientaton", I said to my colleague hypothetically during the conversation. Is it rather extreme?
By the way, what consequences would be if I said something like that at hight school in the U.S.? I bet my parents would be summoned to the principal office for the surmon about "you must force you son not to think this way".
Correct?
>>61469903
Incorrect
>ids le normal
No, no it's not. Go put your dick in a man's ass if you want to, have fun, but don't pretend or make everyone else pretend its normal. By definition its abnormal.
It's particularly baffling because we don't even know what causes homosexually and what it correlates with. Why try and understand something and potentially cure innit. Let's just pretend its normal and go along with it or even encourage it. Fuck, I'm almost convinced that if such a cure was to be found (hypothethically speaking) that it would probably be branded homophobic or some bullshit.
That being said I have a jolly good laugh when parents of gays say they're proud and shit. Proud of what? Your son eating dick or taking it up the ass? What are you being proud of? Seriously, since when is being gay a point of pride? These people are delusional.
As a homosexual myself I cringe at all the stupid 'pride' shit. How is prancing around half naked in the street remotely proomoting your cause?
Imagine if Martin Luther King Jr. had held parades where he and his followers went through the streets raping and stealing. That's the same thing, a parade supposedly yo raise awareness instead doing the opposite by showcasing and reinforcing all the negative stereotypes.
Nobody can argue that fucking another man is in any way a bad thing, but on the other hand nobody can argue that prancing around in the street dressed as a giant rainbow cock is a good thing.
>>61469903
What you said could be considered offencive and I really dont see why you would feel the need to say that at work. But I agree that it shouldnt be considered extreme.
Perhaps one of your colleague is gay and is just tired of always hearing "Men must have love affairs only with women"
>>61469903
>>61470046
define normal
>it's an i'm a flaming faggot deep in the closet episode
>>61470128
Normal: Something that occurs in the majority.
Normal and abnormal are neutral terms. People who think calling something "abnormal" is an insult are retards. All it means is that it's a minor occurrence, outside the norm. Like a lion being found in the jungles of Peru. There's nothing bad about that, though maybe the lion is a bit lonely.
Dont debate faggots, just use your weapons on them, first bats and if they still showing "pride", ue knives and guns.
>>61470261
Feel free to try and remove me.
>>61470128
Using your organs the way they are supposed to be used.
Penis goes in the vagina m8. Of course you can put your dick up the ass of a girl, but that's just a hedonistic fetish and nothing more.
Puting your dick in someone's ass (regardless of gender) does not automatically bestow you special rights. You can put a fucking eel up your ass for all I care. Just do it in the comfort and privacy of your own home, and don't ever tell me about it - let alone create some kind of obscene and ridiculous special rights movement demanding my respect.
Here's a suggestion:
Try eating from your ass, then try taking a shit from your ears.
When you achieve that, and more importantly, when you achieve making that the proper (healthy and beneficial) way to feed and defecate, then and only then faggotry will become normal - first and foremost in a physiological sense, and then is a moral and social sense.
>>61469903
I wasn't clear, sorry. By "extreme cases" I meant only in very rare cases will a single comment result in any substantial sort of reprisal; I wasn't talking about whether the comment itself is extreme.
Most people aren't in positions where they're expected to be a representative of their employer, so there's much more leeway for those sorts of comments, and still less concern for comments made off the clock.
The cases where someone makes a single off-color joke away from work and ends up fired for it are not at all common, and almost always involve someone in a representative position or who's otherwise expected to set an example through their actions. It's just that when they do happen, they get media coverage to fit the political narrative.
>By the way, what consequences would be if I said something like that at hight school in the U.S.?
That varies wildly depending on what school it is and where you are in the country. At a public school in the South the teacher might just agree with you and move on with the lesson, a high-end private school might consider expulsion if you might damage their image as an institution.
Broadly speaking, though, you're mostly right. They'd probably send you to the principal for a lecture, and your parents would probably be called. They would never say "you need to stop thinking this", however, because that's a fundamental violation of federal school charter and if the parents brought allegations against them they risk losing federal funding.
The most they'll do is ask you to reconsider, but at a minimum that you cease to express such views unprompted in the future. (Which is the other thing. Schools are much more forgiving of any sort of action if it's a response to something else. So if the topic of gays had come up in class and you expressed your views as part of the discussion, they would have far less objection than to if you started the conversation yourself, because that looks like you're trying to start a fight)
>>61467089
Calling other countries third world while yours is more of a shithole compared to them
>>61470071
The problem is that a sizable chunk of the gay rights movement is convinced that when people say "normal" it always means "straight."
So when people tell them to act like a normal person, they hear "act straight".
They've forgotten that normal is contextual, and since they assume normal social behavior means normal (straight) sexual orientation, then therefore abnormal sexual orientations mean abnormal social behavior.
>>61470218
Well, not a bad definition, but maybe more in the meaning of "regular" and not really about a "social norm".
>>61470422
Using vaginal sex for pleasure and not for procreation is also a hedonistic fetish m8.
>>61470718
A behavior becomes SOCIAL when you express it publicly. No one cares if you masturbate in your bedroom. But people will notice -and possibly become agitated- if you masturbate in a bank, a restaurant, or a hospital.
>>61470770
>Using vaginal sex for pleasure and not for procreation is also a hedonistic fetish
It's not a fetish.
"Sexual fetishism or erotic fetishism is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or NONgenital body part.
American Psychiatric Association, ed. (2013). "Fetishistic Disorder, 302.81 (F65.0)". Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition. American Psychiatric Publishing. p. 700.
>>61470422
Special rights like what? The ones other people have?
>>61470515
>I wasn't clear, sorry. By "extreme cases" I meant only in very rare cases will a single comment result in any substantial sort of reprisal; I wasn't talking about whether the comment itself is extreme.
Most people aren't in positions where they're expected to be a representative of their employer, so there's much more leeway for those sorts of comments, and still less concern for comments made off the clock.
The cases where someone makes a single off-color joke away from work and ends up fired for it are not at all common, and almost always involve someone in a representative position or who's otherwise expected to set an example through their actions. It's just that when they do happen, they get media coverage to fit the political narrative.
Got you.
>in the South
Why so? In the south people are the most conservative in the U.S.?
>>61470905
Doesn't even matter if it's officially called fetish or not, it's still the same hedonism with no purpose outside of sexual pleasure.
>>61471020
The south is the most conservative, most uneducated, and poorest, yes
>>61465523
why do people act like being gay is a choice at all? who fucking wants to commit social suicide and become a minority lol
>>61470943
That's a good one.
fags are not looking for equality. They are looking for dominance.
Read the fag manifesto:
library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2015/
zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/
Can straight people fuck each other in the middle of street and NOT get arrested?
Fags can defecate and urinate on each other in public and suffer no consequences.
>>61471039
>Doesn't even matter if it's officially called fetish
>the meaning and definitions of words doesn't matter
Well in that case, banana coffee automobile in auditorium above the mountain and a bit sideways after the lake on left in the drawer of the shipwreck.
There. I just won the argument.
>>61464788
People like you are the main reason I'm ashamed of my identity as a Russian.
You're everything that's wrong with our society, you're the ultimate hypocrite, you're literally worse than Hitler.
>>61471251
Are you autistic or what?
What's the difference if it's called a fetish or not?
>>61471251
>nah you're wrong see look at page 18 right here in the gay agenda!
Hahahahaha you actually believe this shit, literally kill yourself you mentally stunted slavshit
>>61471112
>Be me
>Have son
>He struggles in Canadian school
>Can't read ir write at all
>lots of disiplinary problems
>teacher thinks he needs meds
>Canada has extremely highly ranked educatiinal system
>move to poor, uneducated, U.S. South for 7 months
>Within 4 m9nths don can read advanced chapter books extremely well
>makes honour roll
>recieve awards and praise for excellent behavior
>Come home to Canada for summer
>son can read better as a 2nd grader, and kbows more about maths and sciences than cousins in 3rd and even 4th grade here
>Also pais $1,200 to watch him suck at community league hockey here
>paid half that to watch him play an undefeated season all star tournament baseball league in TN
>Vive le Dixie pêh
I will never call the south stupid again. I don't care if their history education is highly propagandised.
>>61471307
Sexual fetishism or erotic fetishism is a sexual focus on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.
American Psychiatric Association, ed. (2013). "Fetishistic Disorder, 302.81 (F65.0)". Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition. American Psychiatric Publishing. p. 700.
It follows then that heterosexual sex is by definition NOT a fetish.
(gay) People cannot demand special rights on the grounds of their fetishes.
>>61471319
meh
>>61471475
Wow your retarded son was comparatively smart in the south? I believe it
>>61471499
So what if it's a fetish?
What fetishes have to do with special rights?
>>61471515
Dem fighting words yankee puto
There's nothing wrong with being gay tbẖ.
It shouldn't be the government's decision on how someone should live their life unless their actions carry significant externalities.
>>61471169
it's a christian thing i think
they believe it's a sin and that no one is born a sinner
What would you do to me If you saw me walking across the street holding hands with my boyfriend?
>>61471319
>there's NO gay agenda guys - I SWEARS IT!
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
To make gays seem less mysterious, present a series of short spots featuring the boy-or girl-next-door, fresh and appealing, or warm and lovable grandma grandpa types. Seated in homey surroundings, they respond to an off camera interviewer with assurance, good nature, and charm. Their comments bring out three social facts:
1. There is someone special in their life, a long-term relationship (to stress gay stability, monogamy, commitment);
2. Their families are very important to them, and are supportive of them (to stress that gays are not "anti-family," and that families need not be anti-gay.)
3. As far as they can remember they have always been gay, and were probably born gay; they certainly never decided on a preference one way or the other (stressing that gays are doing what is natural for them, and are not being willfully contrary). The subjects should be interviewed alone, not with their lovers or children, for to include others in the picture would unwisely raise disturbing questions about the complexities of gay social relations, which these commercials could not explain. It is best instead to take one thing at a time.
While we're storming the battlements with salvos of ink, we should also warm the mainstream up a bit with a subtle national campaign on highway billboards. In simple bold print on dark backgrounds, a series of unobjectionable messages should be introduced:
IN RUSSIA, THEY TELL YOU
WHAT TO BE. IN AMERICA
WE HAVE THE FREEDOM
TO BE OURSELVES...
AND TO BE THE BEST.
Or
PEOPLE HELPING INSTEAD
OF HATING--THAT 'S
WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT.
>>61471713
>What fetishes have to do with special rights?
Nothing. That's the point.
gays are the same a foot fetishists, or S&M fetishists.
gays just have a fetish for assholes instead of feet or torture.
>>61471820
Nothing, like I would to any other couple.
God created gay people. Go call god a degenerate you pasty beet-eating fuck.
>Giving a fuck about someones life
Holy shit i'm a muslim and can't give less of a fuck if some one is gay or not.It's their life not mine.
>>61464788
http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2016/3/11/less-50-teens-identify-straight-says-new-study
It's not a variation from the norm in America, Being a lgbtq something is the norm in the current crop of Americans.
>>61471515
Thought it might be that too, but like I said, he is now more advanced than even older, supposedly successful kids here (at least one of which attends school in New England).
The difference I noticed is that the Canadian primary schools here are organised like daycares, kids sit together a colourful round tables, etc. Also, they try "cutting edge" practises here like deciding that someone might be a tactile learner and getting them to work in clay and table-top sand squares. In TN they sit at school desks individually, have actual textbooks, and if the struggle to read they just make them practise reading, rather than have them write the alphabet in fucking sand for an hour.
>>61471820
Be jelous and hide it behind disgust.
>>61471894
The south literally has the worst education system in the US so your son would be smarter had you gone anywhere else
Then again southern schools do cater to retards
>>61471877
what of your son is gay?
>>61471825
>HE UNIRONICALLY BELIEVES THERE IS A LITERAL GAY AGENDA
>>61471877
>>61471777
This
You're good people anon, shame how that's actually rare here
>>61471955
if he's under my roof then beat the shit out him.Later if he gets his own life i wouldn't give a shit if was on hard drugs
>>61471955
I wouldn't give a single fuck. It's his dick/ass not mine
>>61470671
That I don't deny. Everyone and everything here needs to burn to the ground.
>>61471924
I think overall the south probably has a poor education sysyem, but that thete are many food schools on larger urban areas. I can guarantee Knoxville or Atlanta, or Houston will have many public schools with a higher level of education than rural Maine or Rhode Island or Montana
>>61465523
Perhaps being of homosexual orientation is not a choice, but to lead a homosexual life and whether to commit acts of sodomy or not is certainly within your means of control and thus a choice.
Unless of course you are willing to reduce yourself to the standing of an animal and succumb to your perversions like a dog
>>61472105
>>61472120
>you worked that hard to achieve a waifu and children just that your only son throws everything away to become a cock hunter.
>You will never have grandchildren
>Even your did your best, your family will die
How does this make you feel?
>>61472131
Well yeah, cities in general will have better educational opportunities than rural areas, fact remains though the south is the dumbest part of the country
Also sorry for calling your son retarded I feel kinda bad about that 2bh
>>61472193
Have another son
>>61472105
Ah fuck, spoke too soon >>61472043
>>61472231
Your "ONLY" son is gay.
Or both of your sons are gay because the older son is gay and is always also the idol for the younger son.
>>61472158
Hope you don't have sex with women or else you're succumbing to your perversions like a dog
Haha who am I kidding this is 4chan you don't know what boobs feel like
>>61471820
Nothing.
The problem is that faggots can legally piss on each other and fuck each other in public.
>>61471839
>God created gay people.
Did God also create people with a latex fetish?
>>61471877
>Giving a fuck about someones life
I do, when that someone uses his/fetish to attack my dignity, my religion, my morals, wages a war of deception, and on top of that demands I respect him and treat him as my equal.
gays were officially considered mentally sick from pretty much the 12th century until 1973.
Why until 1973?
Can you name the study that managed to change the views of the doctors and institutions that considered faggotry an illness?
Fuck no, you can't because there isn't one.
>>61471978
post more meme pics
The American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality from its official Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) in 1974. This decision occurred in the context of momentous cultural changes brought on by the social protest movements of the 1950s to the 1970s: beginning with the African-American civil rights movement, then evolving on to the women's and gay rights movements.
So, it wasn't a scientific study that made doctors change the DSM definition of faggotry. It was blackmail, deception, and intimidation by faggot right groups.
more reading / sources
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2015/
zombietime.com/up_your_alley_2008/part_1_full/
>>61472193
>You will never have grandchildren
>Even your did your best, your family will die
sure this is how your parents feel considering you're talking about gay rights on a taiwanese comic board
>>61466448
did you even graduate high school?
I suppose any schooling in a muslim country is essentially a meme anyway
>>61472336
>The problem is that faggots can legally piss on each other and fuck each other in public.
I don't think that's actually legal. Also, would you be okay with straight people pissing on eachother? Why is that gay problem?
>So, it wasn't a scientific study that made doctors change the DSM definition of faggotry.
True, but it wasn't any scientific studies that made homosexuality a mental illness in the first place.
>>61472336
>The problem is that faggots can legally piss on each other and fuck each other in public.
Can they? Damn it must be fun being gay, count me it.
>>61472158
>succumb to your perversions like a dog
I wish.
>>61472193
t. Mehmet
Don't you have some kurds to be blown up by?
>>61472378
You dodge the question.
You have a son with your 25 years old wife.
When he is 20 it turns out he is gay.
Your wife is 45 now and can't get a child anymore.
You did your best and you did everything right, yet still your family dies away.
How does this make you feel?
>>61472471
So you like losing the game of life even you seem to win it?
>>61472336
>I do, when that someone uses his/fetish to attack my dignity, my religion, my morals, wages a war of deception, and on top of that demands I respect him and treat him as my equal.
I bet you're the tipe of guy to get offended if some on is a diferent religion then him.Honest to god if you can't take the fact that some one likes dick and you can't change that then end your life m8.
>>61472268
fuck it then what can i do
>>61472488
Mehmet my son
>>61472105
lol 16 year old detected
>>61472336
Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974.
What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss. They gained a voice and began to make themselves heard. And the APA reacted with truly astonishing speed. And with good reason. They realized intuitively that a protracted battle would have drawn increasing attention to the spurious nature of their entire taxonomy. So they quickly “cut loose” the gay community and forestalled any radical scrutiny of the DSM system generally.
Also noteworthy is the fact that the vote of the membership was by no means unanimous. Only about 55% of the members who voted favored the change.
Of course, the APA put the best spin they could on these events. The fact is that they altered their taxonomy because of intense pressure from the gay community, but they claimed that the change was prompted by research findings.
http://behaviorismandmentalhealth.com/2011/10/08/homosexuality-the-mental-illness-that-went-away/
>>61472516
read my previus posts ameritard
>>61472286
Having sex with women is the sole purpose of my existence if we disregard all but biological imperative, I'll assume you're an atheist by virtue of being a homosexual. Homosexuality is a twisted distortion of that imperative, driven by abnormal and often hyperactive sexuality.
It is not compareable in any sense, neither functionally, biologically or spirtually, thus rendering it a non-argument.
>>61472415
Not him but being against gay rights is seen as very normal here.
In a country where 60% of people are muslims, I doubt gay rights will ever be recognised. It's just a sad truth.
>>61472488
Gay people can have kids Hanz, and if he doesn't have any, oh well. I have brothers and sisters who's children will carry on the family. It's not like even if I was mad I could do anything about it.
>>61472509
>fuck it then what can i do
Maybe you could have prevented this by not normalizing gays and promoting them in gay parades and media all over the country.
>>61472553
>why yes, I never have sex for pleasure, only to procreate. I also never jack off.
Yeah I actually believe it
how can one be a faggot lmao nigga stop sucking dicks ez
>>61472542
>What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough.
Again. Declaring homosexuality as a mental illness had no scientific backing in the first place. You don't need scientific data to disprove a claim that was never scientific to begin with.
>>61472268
>Or both of your sons are gay because the older son is gay and is always also the idol for the younger son.
That's not how sexuality works you sauerkunt
>>61464788
Plz send Putin here help us Russian bro plz kill all this gays and pedos Americans plz I will send you my sister and you can rape her anytime you want :)
Send help kill all this fags
>>61472592
That is the sole biological purpose, yes. I believe there is more to it than that personally, but deep down in any man the reason he enjoys sex is as a reward for reproduction.
I also do in fact not jack off, you assuming that that would be impossible says more about you than me.
>>61472646
Holy shit if there ever was a Muslim immigrant post this is it
>>61472640
The younger son just wants to be like his older brother because his older brother is sooooo cool.
>>61464830
Wow racist
>>61472553
>Having sex with women is the sole purpose of my existence if we disregard all but biological imperative
EVOLUTION HAS NO FUCKING PURPOSE.
Seriously. The whole idea of a "purpose" in our existence is our invention and our invention only. There's no biological purpose, imperatives or whatever.
We are good at making children because being good at making children means there are more children who are good at making children. That's it. Any further value of "we came about this way, therefore it's what we have to do" is just us trying to justify our own existence.
>>61472542
I hope you realize that the source you use is from a psychiatric who does not believe in mental disorders.
>>61472567
Look at my fuckign flag mate being gay here is far from normal but why would I give a fuck about SOMEONE ELSE'S life.It's their chose (or they were born with it on how you look at it).Like seriously why would you burden your self by giving a fuck about stuff like this?
>>61472712
Muslims don't know the concept of self-irony and also have a higher IQ than americans.
So I guess that he is some average halfniggermullato like all of you.
Cure for homosexuality is discovered tomorrow.
What happens?
>>61472706
>but deep down in any man the reason he enjoys sex is as a reward for reproduction.
Last time I checked it was because it felt good.
>>61472774
Because I want to have grandchildren.
And I want that my Grandchildren have children.
I want that there is something of me in this world for much longer than just my own life.
>>61467512
>>61467611
please help
>>61472793
>Cure for homosexuality
k e k
e
k
>>61472793
Gays hide in slovenian mountanins, then take over your government and institute first homocracy
>>61472706
It's the other way around
Reproduction is a reward for enjoying sex.
>>61472816
You will have no grandchildren anyway
Remember why you're here?
>>61472861
I'm married tho.
>>61472816
Gay people aren't sterile, m8.
Artificial procreation or even just finding someone of the opposite sex just to have a child is always a possibility.
>>61472816
It's not your choice to have grandchildren but the choice of your children to have children.
They should be able to live their lives however they want without having to fulfill your insecurities.
>>61472897
how?
>>61472816
ok look man would you like your son to start killing and bashing gay people just because they aren't straight?
>>61472823
What's so funny about that? Clearly there's something that's causing homosexuality, no? Be it hormonal, genetic, nurture, whatever. So, using common sense, there is a possibility to fix that something, no?
So the question is; What happens if we find a cure for homosexuality tomorrow?
>>61472947
Arranged marriages are still pretty common among Muslims.
>>61472464
>Can they? Damn it must be fun being gay, count me it.
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
Your type of "lighthearted" humor is perfectly outlined and explained in the link.
It's like dan savage joking about inseminating his man's ass.
Quirky and disgusting at the same time. Enough to make clinton supporters laugh with excitement.
>>61472438
>would you be okay with straight people pissing on eachother?
Of course not.
>Why is that gay problem?
Because faggot degeneracy is slowly yet steadily becoming acceptable, and fags use the "oppression" card to force others to accept what they do.
If a cop arrested two fags for pissing on each other in the middle of the street, then he will be labeled as a gay hater, and that shit will be all over the news.
If a cop arrested a couple (man/woman) for having sex in a public place, then no one would speak ill of the cop.
>>61472625
So, me saying that a fag is mentally ill, is as valid as you saying that he isn't.
>>61472766
Sweet.
I don't believe in them either.
See Szasz and Farber.
The fags DO believe in them though.
>>61472947
It's done in the registry here.
You bring some papers and pay an adminitration fee then you choose a date and marry.
Later we did a marriage by church by asking a priest to do so and he proves if you're catholic and then does it on a date possible what isn't even that expensive.
>>61473001
Homosexuality is nurture I'm sure, not even identical twins are always both gay
I'm sure if someone were to create a device that would wipe the brain to an earlier state (maybe 2 years old), he would assuredly not be a homosexual
>>61473001
Well, the self-haters would take the pill because it would be the easiest thing for them, but lots of gay people (maybe even most?) wouldn't, claiming that they are happy with how they are and don't need to conform to society to life fullfilling lives.
A trend of slight homophobia would probably come off, since the general public would start thinking that they are egoistical and should just take the fucking cure to make things easier for society as a whole. And as a result, LGBT rights activists would change their focus from the whole "born this way" thing to more of a "look, it really doesn't fucking matter, people should be able to fuck whoever they want anyway if it's consenting and between adults".
Plus, if a cure for homosexuality is discovered, then you probably would also be able to invent something that *causes* homosexuality or bisexuality - in which case I could see a shitload of people taking the bisexual pill because holy shit everyone is hot all of a sudden.
>>61472938
Do you really think that this is what a gay person cares about?
Taking responsibility?
Gays are not known for this stuff but known for pure hedonistic fuck arounds or how many examples can you call for the opposite?
I think if I raise my children properly with a sense for responsibilty I do much more to this than all the degenerate fuckeits itt who think everyone should just be as he wants.
The individualism meme is pure hypocracy and a way to end every working society and population.
>>61473068
Holy shit somebody calm debtopoulous down
>>61472706
>I also do in fact not jack off
hahahaha holy fuck it's like pottery with you nerds
>>61473139
>invent something that *causes* homosexuality or bisexuality
This.
It obviously be used by jews to make everyone gay using chemtrails. And then humanity will die and only jews remain. And they will take all our gold and take it to their home planet.
>>61472785
mehmet...
>>61473182
I like guys, but want kids in the future
>>61473130
>Homosexuality is nurture I'm sure, not even identical twins are always both gay
That doesn't mean much. It's likely a combination of both but that's beside the point and we don't know either way.
>>61473139
Why would they be self haters for wanting to get rid of homosexuality? Are you a self hater for wanting to get rid of allergies or autism or whatever? You really think people would willingly take a pill that would make them like dick?
>>61473261
Please make it known you're being sarcastic because debtopoulous here might start believing this
>>61473190
>keeps getting BTFO!
>keeps posting quirky shit
Lovely stuff Nigel.
>>61473139
There will never be a cure for the gay, because the gay are simply people who like to fuck other people of the same gender.
It's a conscious CHOICE, and a fetish.
Some people CHOOSE to fuck animals, others CHOOSE to fuck rubber dolls.
gays CHOOSE to fuck other gays.
That's all there is to it.
>>61465523
The biggest shame is that homosexuality isn't thought of as a chemical imbalance and treated as such.
>>61473182
>The individualism meme is pure hypocracy and a way to end every working society and population.
Hear hear.
>>61473355
Do gays want to be treated?
>>61473347
>literally believes in a gay agenda
>expects me to take him seriously
hahahaha NOOOO hahahahaha
when did you choose to be straight? why aren't you attracted to other men?
>>61473310
>You really think people would willingly take a pill that would make them like dick?
Why not?
dicks>vaginas
>>61473402
Schizophrenics don't want to be treated, either, because they don't think there's a problem. But they're still being treated.
>>61473347
If humans were born with no sex drive then you could complain all you like about people choosing to be gay. This is not the case, however.
>>61473296
And how do you want to achieve this?
What women will bare you a child and leave it then to you?
>>61473513
Actually, schizophrenics don't get treated unless they want to or if they're a danger to themselves or others.
>>61473513
Technically, I believe they can't be forced to be treated unless they present a danger to others.
>>61473459
>literally believes people are born child molesters, rubber doll fuckers, and animal fuckers
Why in the flying everloving fuck would you believe people are born with an inate desire to fuck rubber dolls, animals, or toddlers?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>61473542
>What is a surrogate mother?
>What is IVF?
Mehmet please.
>>61473559
>>61473590
Shame that gays present a danger to others.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bug%20Catcher
>it's an "amateur fascists attempt to debate morality" episode
>>61473513
t. knows nothing about schizophrenia and has never met a schizophrenic person
Seriously though, people with mental diseases can't be treated unless they are a danger to others, like the other anon said. Nobody can be forced to be cured, in medicine.
>>61473625
Is this legal in your country?
>>61473602
Are you going to try to refute this >>61468630 or just keep spewing strawmen like an angry child?
>>61473542
>t women will bare you a child and leave it th
surrogate mothers, plenty of straight couples do it too, it's not uncommon.
But having kids is something i'm a little split on. I want the experiance of being a father and see my child grow up, but i dont want him/her to get too much influenced by having 2 fathers, etc.
Who knows, maybe i'll end up with a women anyway. I'll see how things go.
My point is just that gay people often want kids just as much as straight couples do. There's much more to being a father than "just having a kid"
>>61473720
It's legal in most first world countries, yeah.
>>61473720
Yes. It's not in Mother Turkey? :(
>>61473640
To other gays according to this, so why would you give a fuck
>>61473853
>>61473862
It's not legal here and children made like this are not acknowledged here as your by law.
>>61473539
People can and do try out different sexual shit, and stick to what they enjoy. ALL people are by definition born men and women. Boys are by definition attracted to girls, and vise versa. That's biology 101.
What people DECIDE to do in the course of their lives has absolutely no relevance to their biological state at the time they were born.
No one is born a faggot. Being a faggot is a conscious decision.
You could try fucking your father up the ass if you want, and then if you both enjoy it you can both DECIDE and agree to keep going at it.
It ain't fucking natural, but it is a choice made between two consenting adults.
You fags should also not be allowed to get married or adopt children, just because you think your fetish grants you special rights.
Notmycuppatea govna, but you go ahead and try it.
It's a CHOICE.
>>61473776
Didn't see it.
HIV/AIDS.
Refuted.
>>61468630
This.
This is retarded when we have so many ophranages with shitty conditions and at the same time limiting the number of potential families to adopt them.
>>61473602
No really answer my question, when did you choose to be straight? Why aren't you attracted to men?
>>61474030
>tl;dr
amazing
>>61473020
Based frog.
>>61468630
>There is a reason why stable and developed civilizations with longer life expectancy/lower mortality rates become more permissive of homosexuality
It's called media combined with fag propaganda.
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
>>61474091
I was born straight, just like everyone else.
>>61474173
>can't read 10 lines of text
Wipe the cum from your eyes ffs.
>>61474030
I've always liked men more as far back as i can remember, even when i was in full denial about it. I didn't "try" my way with everything until i found something i liked.
>No one is born a faggot. Being a faggot is a conscious decision.
Just like nobody is born a Turkish fuckktoy, you Greeks just consciously decided it?
>>61468630
Possibly the most retarded theory I've heard as of yet.
Especially this part
>Exclusive heterosexuality ultimately results in unchecked population growth and crash, as seen frequently in nature.
Yeah man, those 2% sure make a difference. You'll make a more convincing argument by saying that desesases spread mainly or in high part by homosexuals keep the population in check.
Meanwhile 11% of reproductive-aged population are infertile. So much for your theory.
>>61474225
The tl;dr was meant to quote you. You can't be bothered to try and have a reasoned discussion about the point in the mentioned post and can only spout the hatred you've learned on the internet. This is why everyone hates natsocs, you're a bunch of angry mongoloids who just want to feel superior to others without having to improve yourself in any way.
>>61464788
Gay is the same as Russian
Do you think it's a normal thing when Ukrainians beat Russians for speakinfg Russian in public?
>>61474225
>I was born straight, just like everyone else.
So then why are people gay? Did they choose to be attracted to the same sex?
>>61474336
>Just like nobody is born a Turkish fuckktoy, you Greeks just consciously decided it?
umad?
>I've always liked men more as far back as i can remember
So? What's your point?
I've always liked broccoli.
I tried it, and I decided it was great.
Now replace broccoli with dick and that's you.
>>61474397
Once again you fit the description of a typical fag using typical terms to fight off the unreasonable anti-fag "bully":
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm
>>61474512
Yes.
All people are born straight, some people decide to become fags - because that's what they like.
Now YOU answer me this:
If you think people are born gay, then do you also think that people are born child molesters, animal fuckers, and rubber doll fuckers?
If not, WHY?
What's the difference between a faggot and a guy who fucks donkeys or dogs?
What if someone came up to you and said
"I've always liked dogs more as far back as i can remember, even when i was in full denial about it. I was born a dog fucker."
What would you say to that person?
>>be me
>be a tourist in New York
>buy heroin from a nigga pusher
>put it into your vein
>all of a sudden a muscle 6 ft cop stops you in the street
>boy you look weird, let's go to the police station
>come on, confess you're on drugs
>the cop arrests you for being on heroin
>boy, you'll be punished, but you can avoid it
>how?
>pound my bitch cop muscle ass hard with you twink cock!!!
>Sir, how dare you to offer me such an awful thing? It's haram in my country!
>he sits down on the table, takes a huge police baton and starts tapping it on his other's hand
>boy, do you fucking think I'm playing games with you? don't fucking make me angry!
>Sir, please...
>Well, choose one thing, boy. You pound my hole with your twink cock or I pound yours with this stick. So what?
>tears start falling from my eyes
>ok, sir, I agree...
>well, that's it, boy!
>he sits down on the chair
>come to me, boy
>he undoes my jeans and it turns out I have a boner
>very very bad boy ah!
>he starts jerking off my wet and erected penis
>you're so wet, boy, haha, even wetter than me
>he also has a huge erection which can be seen by the hump on his pants
>I hope you don't cum before the ACTION, right? It's better for you that you don't, otherwise I'll get very angry
>he licks my cock on the whole length and dandles the glans with his tongue
>mmm your juice is so delicious, like ambrosia!
>my cock starts trembling with arousal, I close my eyes and moan
>oh yeah, baby, your moaning is so hot, moan as loud as possible
>then he puts my D into his mouth and starts sucking, he closes his eyes and slurps my cock in his mouth
>when I almost cum, he stops it
>now you do the work, babe, I'll be your little submissive bitch
>my cock is trembling, I'm horny like hell, my heart beats like 180-200 bpm
>I take him by his police cap, violently rush my penis into his mouth and start deepthroating him
>>61474902
>I think you're being unreasonable
>YEAH WELL YOU'RE A FAG
I see, enjoy your recession.
>several frictions and my cock erupts right into his mouth, his fucking cap already on the floor
>it is a huge fucking eruption like a volcano in Iceland
>never had such a wonderful orgasm before
>he almost suffocates on my cum
>he came too, I see the wet spot on his pants
>his handsome manly face looks now like a cheap Spic whore used by 10 drunk white bottom class men
>when I take my cock out of his mouth, my D still intensively trembles, I keep on handling him by the head, he breathes hard, an expression of being very satisfied on his face
>then he starts licking sperm off my nuts and penis, from below to above and finally sticks to the glans
>baby, that was gorgeous
>best blowjob in my life
>but did you forget you promised to do my boipussy?? I might get angry and punish you... I want to rape your cock with my ass! Now! I want to feel this loverboy inside me... please... You see I'm at your feet begging for heavy pounding,,, I'm cock addicted... I love twinks like you... It's the best thing on the planet...
>his whispering and moaning is so hot I get horny again
>he pats my cock with his hand, it starts to grow in size, with huge blue veins on it
>but first I'd like you lick your twink ass, babe...
>>61474902
Nah, just asking stupid questions like you.
My point is that i've always liked them, far before i ever had ay sexual or romantic contact with one
>>61474999
>>61475051
>being on heroine
>getting that horny
Must be fake for sure.
>>61475046
>>61475055
I guess when fags get cornered they would rather drop their pants than answer any questions.
>>61465969
You're right, you didn't choose to be bi, but you DID choose to be the host of a pride event, which is unforgivable.
>>61474902
>because that's what they like.
Why do they like it?
>>61475113
You didn't ask me a question though.
>>61466334
>That migh be your opinion, but the fact is that you are born gay, straight, bi or whatever.
>fact
Really now. You believe a person is born with a pre-determined sexual orientation?
Fine, let me see this fact.
>>61475113
Do you honestly think calling gay people fags is an insult still?
