What is there to see in Eastern Europe? Convince me it isn't an uncultured shithole with nothing but commieblocks and depressed alcoholic people. I want to visit there but I still don't know which country and which locations to go to.
why do you have to be mean Mario?
i bet you arent even from northern italy
go to Slovakia and ask the cab driver to take you to Lunik IX
quintessentialy Slovak experience
don't forget to bring a lot of money, too
>>61461911
St. Petersberg. Winter Palace was really good. I felt it was better than Louvre or British Museum
Prague and Budapest are very beautiful cities (at least the parts that were not buildt by commies). But you will definitely see some depressed alcoholic people.
Never dared to venture further east so I can not tell you what awaits you there.
>>61461911
>commieblocks
They're mostly in the suburbs or replace parts of cities that were levelled during WW2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUvDHDlqNkg
>>61461935
Please keep the gypsy ghetto out of this.
But yes, it is indeed something you will probably never see in western Europe. It's the result of commies giving free housing to gypsies, a palpable and visible truth about how gypsies do not fucking belong to Europe
>>61461911
Come to EE, friend. We have many beautiful Italian cities.
>>61461911
Why would anyone try to convince you if you're already so negative.
>>61461998
it was just a joke m8
I'm also pretty sure such areas are in pretty much every EE country that has enough gypsies
Fuck off i don't want you greasy wops anywhere near my comfy slav zone.
>>61461911
Do not come here nigger
>>61462008
>>61462094
>>61462774
Why so salty? Don't you want my money to help develop your countries? You can't just survive on leeching the EU alone.
>>61462908
>terrone neet cannot contain his butthurt
>>61462908
Get off your high horse arabtaly and eat your shit
>>61461911
Why are Italians so butthurt towards EE?
>>61464087
MUH CLAY
>>61462908
EE welcomes tourists. But not tourists with your attitude.
Well, I don't know about all of EE, but Slovakia and Slovenia seem artificial as fuck.
Croatian Italian cities are fine.
>>61464326
>artificial
What do you mean?
>>61461911
>Convince me it isn't an uncultured shithole with nothing but commieblocks and depressed alcoholic people.
But why would anyone tell lies on the Internet?
>>61464355
insincere, feigned, false, unnatural, contrived, put-on, exaggerated, forced, labored, strained, hollow, pretend, phony, bogus
>>61461911
Nobody cares. Convince me that Italians are not barbarians who just take Romans clay.
>>61464432
I mean what exactly. The streets? The people? Everything? I did not ask you for a definition of the word, I am not retarded.
>>61464488
He is just typing random shit because he is bitter that Portugal is going to be poorer than EE in 5 years.
>>61464561
>In 5 wears
I though it already is.
>>61464326
>Croatian Italian
I sure hope you're not one of those who believes Croats were buttnaked people who had inmorted a number of Italians and these same Italians built everything for the buttnaked Croats
>>61461911
go to Paris instead and get blown up by some jihadi you worthless piece of crap
>>61464488
A bit of everything, except the people The people I felt were really nice and down to earth.
Slovenia, less so. But then again Slovenia has very little to begin with.
>>61464561
That's exactly it, m8.Couldn't be possible anything else. Though I should know better than make criticism of anything EE without some Pole making it personal. Maybe it's the way things are done there.
there si no western europe
Russia and something on the left
>>61464793
>Ivan in charge of not confusing west with east
>>61464734
>That's exactly it, m8.Couldn't be possible anything else. Though I should know better than make criticism of anything EE without some Pole making it personal. Maybe it's the way things are done there.
It's hard to call it a criticism, you haven't stated what you don't like, you just called everything artificial without giving any arguments or explainations.
>>61464326
What the fuck are you even talking about? Artificial cities? Bratislava was capital of Hungarian kingdom for centuries, how is that artificial? Minig towns were built centuries ago and some of them function to this day. Have you ever visited other countries that were part of A-H? Because Slovakia is no different from them regarding cities and architecture
fuck the Russia.
>>61464561
Portugal already is poorer than Slovenia and the Czech Republic
>60 years of communism
>still better of than Portugal
>>61464935
Yes, I lived in Austria for half an year, that's why I say it seemed artificial. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's just the real nature.
But let me ilustrate an example. When I went to Slovakia, I had a Slovak friend who guided me through Bratislava. I noticed there where a large number of statues everywhere. So I started asking about the statues and some of them people didn't even know the story, others where just "he was a nice guy around this street". In western europe, statues are used to celebrate real important people. In Slovakia they were fucking everywhere, as if they were trying too hard to prove something.
>>61461911
Please don't come..
>>61465119
Ok, now do Slovenia!
>>61465119
you are not western europe lol :D:D:D
Hungary, Czechia
any coastal city of Croatia and Slovenia
>>61464692
oh boy, too many implications
>>61465119
>someone doesn't know all the 600 people represented by statues
>ha ha artificial
>Dumbtugal
>>61464692
That's what all western Europeans think about catholic Slavic countries.
>>61465119
Just because your guide didn't know, it doesn't mean there is no story behind it. I think the problem is more about people being ignorant about their cities' past.
>>61465119
Most of the statues in Bratislava are just art. There are few with important personalities but if your Slovak friend doesn't know about those he is uncultured swine and probably magyar aswell
>>61464692
Actually, that's pretty accurate for the parts the Venetian Republic controlled. The rest was built by Austria.
>>61461911
Enjoy the sights the locals do, here is picturesque Poland
You are rude and thus not welcome in Russia
>>61465186
There's really nothing to say about it... there wasn't really much, I think I know why Slovenians cling so much to their pictures of nature aorund /int/.
I went to Ljubljana twice. The first time was just bad. Bad people, boring places. So I gave it a second change. The second time I went looking for some cultural experience, and to be honest, there wasn't much to go around either. The little things that were actually real important historical places, seemed odd. For example, it's "medieval" castle didn't seem medieval at all and overall the city seemed ill kept and very dirty. except for some very concetrated small tourist hotspots where everything was good looking but sterile. As in nothing "Slovenian" to distance it from everything else.
>>61465376
All I see is pet owners breeding their dogs, probably for a prestigious animal show.
>>61465407
Ljubljana is the cleanest european capital you dumb moor
>>61465407
as someone who was in Ljublana last month you are full of shit lol
Ljublana is like 10x cleaner than your country
oh small capital of small country feels like smal town? shocking
what are you smoking?
>>61465407
I think you're just prejudiced about Eastern Europe if you think Ljubljana castle is a Potemkin's Village and that Ljubljana is dirty.
>>61465278
I'd expect the people that come in daily contact with them to know. I didn't say one person has to know them all, but at least the ones they see looming over them everyday. Even the scumbags of my town know who the statues here represent.
And as it turns out it really is artificial.
>>61465331
So you can suck a dick.
>>61465525
>Pointing out that art around the city streets is a negative thing
>>61465488
He also seems to think that we should have something to reflect our eastern nature in relation to Austria. But since we were a part of Austria for almost 600 years, there is nothing to set us apart except for a less stringent attitude towards local history, as he correctly noticed, which results from a number of factors, most importantly the revocation of noble status, secularization and a late industrialization/proletarization, all fully realized only in communist times.
>>61461911
you are not that special so stay in your shithole pls
or ou are probably looking for job here right?
>>61465654
Northern Italy has only 8% unemployment so no.
>>61465465
Ok, maybe I visited it in the wrong days. Because on the first one the train station had shit literal shit laying around on the platform and no one seemed to be bothered about it.
>>61465488
Ok, maybe it changed in the two years I've been there...
But being small doesn't excuse it. My town has less 200.000 inhabitants than Slovenia and there are more things to do in it, but it is as ill kept as Ljubljana. Maybe it changed.
What I don't understand is why you are so fucking mad? You've never been in Portugal.
>>61465507
And this is why criticising eastern europe is a waste of time.
Everyone just starts being mad. Couldn't be possible that my experiences are justified. No. It can only mean that someone who actually been there is "prejudiced. OK.
>>61465525
Everybody knows who important statues represent. There are lot of small ones without singnifigance that are just used to cheer up overall atmosphere.
You just seem mad as fuck for no reason.
In Bratislava there are statues of people like Milan Rastislav Štefánik or Hviezdoslav, both are one of the most important Slovak people to live. Its not like we put randoms here. Show me any statue that you consider to be ''artificial''
>>61465774
actually I was in Portugal 3x times, 2x times in Porto tho and compare to Slovenia Portugal looks messy af
bcs you are local you idiot and you know where to go
>>61465774
You are prejudiced because both of your statements are factually incorrect, which means that you were negatively predisposed towards the place and wanted to see it as dirty and inauthentic.
Come niggro
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xwNtlYX_iYM
ITT: Dumb moor
When people call Slovenia and Slovakia they refer to the countries, because they are very young compared to their neighbours and former rulers. To actually call towns artificial just means you are retarded
>>61465907
I didn't know anything about the place. I actually had good expecations because I had met a Slovenian is Austria and she told me nice things. That's why I visited Slovenia in the first place.
And you can't say I didn't try because I visited twice because I didn't want to believe that my first time was all there was to Ljubljana.
>>61465774
>Because on the first one the train station had shit literal shit laying around on the platform
yeah you
>>61466168
he was probably in Italy, he i sjust confused
>>61465785
I remember there being a statues of a guy in a motorbike, and when I asked about him (being such a recent individual I was intrigued) my Slovak "guide" just told me "he was a very nice guy who lived here".
Then I remember some statues of some dude getting out a manhole. I asked. No one knew. But they never told me it was "just art" either.
>>61465405
The locals do not want the competition...
>>61466246
Because it doesn't represent anyone important. The man probably never even lived. You honestly think THIS is supposed to represent someone proud and important? Its just for fun
>>61466442
I don't know. After knowing people will make a statue in your honour because "he was nice" I was ready to believen anything.
And you can't blame me when not even Slovaks knew. Maybe I had bad "guides".
>>61461911
Apart from the capitals, you will no see no africans in the east, and you will feel in Europe unlike in the West.
>>61462908
>Why would anyone try to convince you if you're already so negative.
>omg y so salty
Something tells me your problem with Eastern Europe has little to do with their economic situation m8.
You can tell us lad, this is a safe space
>>61461911
>Nordic Estonia
>Eastern Europe
I'm surprised you didn't put Italy in there as well since you always whine about how you aren't Southern Europe.
>>61466509
Cause there is nothing to know. There are legends and stories about the statue but they are made up. Every guide will know about any important statue like Hans Christian Andersen.
![skbr006[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zZiRIR4.jpg "skbr006[1].jpg")
>>61466509
Was it pic related?
http://www.vanderkrogt.net/statues/object.php?webpage=ST&record=skbr006
These were all just a bit of fun. Maybe not the Napoleon one, that one is a reminder of Napoleon's attack.
>>61465407
It's a bait guys, chill. If there is one thing Slovenia is know for, it's for it's cleaness.
>>61466584
So this is the power of Estonia... woah.
>>61461911
Whever you go its gonna be nice. Even shitholes like albania look and feel really nice. You are just prejudiced.
>>61461911
Why are we not Eastern Europe? We reach further east than most "eastern" euro countries :/
>>61466973
Because you weren't gommies.
>>61466973
Because its purely a political division, a bad one at that. Yugoslavia was not part of the Eastern bloc after 1947, if anything we were closer to the west because the Soviets were planning to invade us.
At the time we even got US military aid in the shape of tanks and jet fighters.
>>61466973
because yuo of mongolia :DDD
>>61467050
Slovenians are Friulians in denial. You look the same as them.
>>61467194
These could all easily pass as Slovaks too
>>61467253
Can you tell which group is Slovenian and which one is Friulian?
>>61467316
Nope.
>>61461911
Slovenia and Croatia are just right there, lad
>>61467194
>>61467316
the left group is the friuli.
>>61467194
If anything Friulians are Slovenes in denial, not the other way around seeing as Slovenes do live in Friuli but no Friulians live in Slovenia. On top of that Friulian has a bunch of Slovenian influence in language while Slovene does not, only the dialects close to the border have such influences.
The area was inhabited by a celtic/gaulish tribe (Carni) before the slavs came as well and, for example, they were the ones that founded the settlement that came to be Aquilea.
>>61467403
How do I get EU flag?
>>61467417
>Slovenes do live in Friuli but no Friulians live in Slovenia
I made sure to pick regions that were both distanced from each other to avoid that argument. The Friulians are from Udine and the Slovenes are from Prekmurjet and the Friulians are from Udine. Still can't tell the apart?
>Italian asks for reasons to visit eastern europe
>92 replies later
>none
>>61467744
get a job at an international company and browse /int/ instead of working
com,ehere and see my 10 cm dick
haha
>>61467829
If you are interested in historical landmarks and nice nature, you'll find plenty, just look shit up.
Otherwise, there isn't really anything you can't find in western Europe too (in terms of services) which shouldn't be suprising to you. So what are you expecting to hear from us?
>>61466442
>poortugal though this was an important bloke
>>61467809
My notion about Prekmurians was that they all have black straight hair, no neck and are short because they are mixed with Magyars. Guess this proves me wrong.
>>61467809
Yeah, but in purely historical terms, Slavs were settled in Friuli in the high middle ages and may have even founded Udine.
>>61467417
The words punca and fant are of Friulian origin and they are very common words.
>>61467829
>Moortugal
>Poortugal
>Pootugal
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>61467829
It's funny how only the persons from the biggest shitholes in Western Europe reply ITT.
>>61461911
There are nice still mostly untouched wilderness in Romania like the Carpathians and the Danube Delta. Cheap lodgings and ver y comfy. Danube is starting to get expensive but there;s top tier fishing and deserted wild beaches nessled between canals.
you should try to visit Albania.
The beaches are as beautiful as Greece's, but without being overrun by tourists. an at a much lower price.
>>61467809
Yeah, so you've got Slovenes that look like Friulians in an area that has nothing to fo with Friuli and had no overlap with it.
Friulians had influx of Slovenes, Prekmurje, as was your example, had no influx of Friulians yet they still look like them (according to you). See where I'm going with this?
Thus the only logical conclusion is that Friulians are Slovenes in denial and not the other way around. That is if I take your premise of "in denial" seriusly to begin with.
>>61469654
Both of them don't really look like typical Slavs to me. More like an intermediate between Austrians and Mediterraneans. Anyway, the left group is Slovenian and the right one is Friulian. There was a small giveaway for the Slovenian side which was the guy with slanty eyes (probably has something to do with being close to Hungary, he looks close to the average Hungarian man). The rest seem to share the Alpine and Mediterranean phenotypes.
>>61467194
>Random people you can find all over Europe.png
>>61470255
What are "typical slavs" to you? The Russians that mixed with finno-ugrics for 1000 years?
Austrians are the ones that are overlaping between germanics and slavs, most of modern day Austria was Slavic before the Germanics migrated south, can be clearly seen by placenames and surnames. It's ridicioulus that you use them as some sort of baseline and say we're the intermediates lel.
Hungarians are also heavily overlapping with Slavs as can be seen, again, by both surnames and placenames but they never ventured out of the pannonian plain much. The average Hungarian doesn't look "slant eyed" if that's what you think.
>>61466523
so beautiful and progressive. The 1789 Revolution was worth it.
>>61461911
Slovenia, Croatia, Czechia
Nothing else is worth visiting.
>>61470607
>what is Poland
>what is Hungary
>what is Albania
>what is Romania
>>61461911
protect yourself with strong condoms.
Remember: they are not under communism anymore so no women will have sex with you for a pair of pantyhose or lipsticks.
>>61470644
did they do this during communism?
>>61470643
>shithole
>shithole
>bunkerhole
>gypsyhole
Although, Budapest is nice, but that is about it.
>>61470676
it was very easy for western citizens to have sex with eastern Europe women because they wanted western shit and flee from communism.
Fucking traitorous whores. Long live to communism (and cheap whores).
>>61470723
Czech Republic and Slovenia are fine.
Croatia is a must for italian students.
Serbia for italian fascists and communists.
>>61470740
you speak the truth comrade
>>61470644
why ?
Unless you go to countries still stuck in soviet shithole times, you have less chances to be infected than in western europe.
>>61470842
I always protect myself dude. Always.
>>61470886
It was just the way you said it, like you have more chances of getting something here.
While in fact it's less.
>>61470781
What ?
fascists AND communists ?
>>61471001
I know it's crazy but both like Serbia. I think because you were an enemy of USA and EU. Well, the anti establishment Serbia, before they bent you.
Kraków, Prague, B-bratislava, Budapest, Balaton, Slovenian mountains, coastal Croatia
Somebody from a country here that actually is civilized, cultured and isn't a shithole like Italy.
Poles, Romanians, Czechs and Slovakians are ok. Balkan Slavs are shit though.
>>61471197
what about hungols :(
>>61471197
Germany is anything but cultured. You're just work drones with no soul.
Concince me Italy didn't see its greatest days 2000 years ago.
>>61471197
dude it's full of german tourists here even your chancellor came here for her vacations
>>61471338
Shh. They're upset that all their cool historical shit was destroyed in WW2 and now there's nothing to see there.
>>61471381
yeah they were full of it. Literally.
>>61471285
Sure, Itaker. Take your "culture" and go back to Arabia, moor scum.
>>61471338
Your country is still a shithole. The symbols of your actual former glory crumble and are nothing more than ruins and you didn't manage to build anything new that would be worth a visit and you know it.
>>61471259
Never was in Hungary, don't know anything about that. Sorry
>>61470644
We have less diseases than any of you western pigs
Wroclaw Is the cultural capital european city of 2016.
I heard that the more generally the east is great for medieval landmarks, cities still intact from the WW2, very affordable prices and a hate for gypsies.
Never been there but I surely planning to go.
>>61471426
ah okay, thought you might know something about it, because it used to be full of germans at lake balaton
>>61471434
why are you replying to me? You are not Czech, you are not white.
>>61471454
Unless you go too far east and end up in Russia
>>61471426
lad the only thing that crumbled was the 1000 years third reich after 12 years.
>>61471426
Damn, snownigger barbarian is getting upset. How does it feel knowing you were of zero relevance to European history until the 1800s and your "glorious masterrace HRE" relied on Tuscany and Northern Italy to do everything for them?
>>61471602
>How does it feel knowing you were of zero relevance to European history until the 1800s and your "glorious masterrace HRE" relied on Tuscany and Northern Italy to do everything for them?
Is this what Italians actually think?
>>61471318
I don't want to side with the italians but forgeting the fucking european renaissance isn't good advertising for american education.
>>61471602
they were full of awesome things until the anglos bombed it all. Poor fellow.
>>61471197
>tfw someone calls me Balkan
hurts errytime
>>61471663
Yeah, probably more important than whole Roman era
>>61471562
I'm white, resistant to alcohol and not gay, I could enjoy Russia !
>>61471318
your fucking continent is named after Amerigo Vespucci and Cristoforo Colombo led the spanish funded caravels into the New World. Destroying the relevance of the Venice Republic.
>>61471730
Russia is not a bad place, but it's still the worst country I've ever been in. The only remarkably positive thing is the cheapness, other than that it's pretty meh.
>>61471652
I can't think of many relevant German figures before the 1800s. They only started to get on the same level as France, Britain and Italy during the Age of Enlightenment. And let's not forget they always had a much bigger population than those countries.
>>61471812
nope, France had a huge population, way more than "Germany"
>>61471773
Where in Russia have you been ?
>>61471773
>cheapness
u wot? everything is overpriced in here. Any country in EE is cheaper than Russia.
>>61471847
whatever Germany is. They've changed their borders too many times
>>61471586
Mad banter, lad. Should tell your wife-sister about that one.
>>61471812
That's because you're uneducated
>>61471812
France always had the biggest pop in west europe.
Thread is full of some uneducated Italians. Really makes you think.
>>61471873
The good side about living in Switzerland is that wherever you can go, it's cheaper.
>>61471851
North West Russia (Karelia, SPb)
>>61471873
It's cheap compared to us, at least when I visited (2010), and I think places like Czech, Poland etc. are more expensive than Russia.
>>61471847
>>61472003
Those medieval census only account the modern geographic area of those countries. Germany/HRE was bigger at the time.
>>61471951
I'm not. It's true. Look at all that lack of scientific achievement during 1600-1800. Shameful. That's why the HRE was trying so hard to not lose control of northern Italy.
>>61472346
Are you retarded?
Italy is behind Germany on that graph.
>typical italian
>>61472446
And what is the size of your population compared to ours I might ask? You're ignoring that you were irrelevant before 1800 and a big percentage of your figures are Jewish.
>>61472074
czechia and poland are actually cheaper(groceries, restaurants, cloathes, electronics,services like gym, hair dresser etc), russsia have cheaper gas, cigarets and ulities
t. dad is working in russia and been there several times
And some "exclusive" brands are sooooo overpriced in russia...like 200-300%
>>61461911
As for Czech Republic: Prague is a pretty picturesque city. Aslo they're quite happy people :) (video related) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH_sioW4Qy8
In Poland you can see the lovely lakes. And then this is happening in the lake district this weekend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiaRPQLQ7Kc
>>61461911
do you like URANIUM
HOW ABOUT URANIUM????
