why are ibberians considered white when majority of them have brown skin?
never understood this one, especially considering most people don't think turks as white even though they look a like
We aren't considered white.
I wasn't aware of any sane individual who considered those Moorish rape babies to be white.
>Bulgaria
Honestly you really shouldn't speak -- I'd say Bulgarians are darker than Iberics on average.
I think they are white, though I doubt many would
Our skin color is whiter than most of europeans but we are considered yellow.
>>61432590
That's cause you're a Mongoloid, shithead.
>>61432435
Because Iberians are and have for centuries been majority Christian and ruled by Christians. Turks, on the other hand, have been Muslim all along. Same as Iberians goes for Greeks (diaspora reporting in) and Italians.
"White" is more of a cultural designation than one based on skin colour 2bh
Most of them on TA consider themselves to be southern Scandinavian lel, there they're getting ass ravaged and triggered by multiple posters. The butthurt Iberians get when you show them how they're not white is one of the funniest sites I've seen.
Anyways, Iberians have the highest negroe admixture amongst all Europeans and the highest North African admixture aswell. They even have loads of Arab admixture, more than Greeks and Italians.
Iberians are the darkest European race according to Carlton Coon.
>>61432435
They are ETHNIC EUROPEANS = WHITE. STFU with your bullshit.
>>61432590
You are not whiter than europeans you fuckwit jap piece of yellow shit. Japanese are racially asian and
>>61432688
>according to Carlton Coon
top fucking kek
>>61432477
>Bulgarians are darker
I disagree. Iberians have more negroe admixture than Bulgarians and even Greeks and Italians.
>>61432590
Even with tanning fashionable everywhere in Europe you're definitely browner than Mediterranean peoples. Maybe you meant geisha or something?
>>61432745
I used one off quote by Carlton Coon who considered you the darkest European. And you are according to genetics. Case closed.
There aren't any whites outside the line through Bayonne-Tolouse-Milan-Vienna-Kiev-Sevastopol.
>>61432540
>>61432695
>>61432623
ok, they have contributed to european culture a lot but they have brown skin.
nothing wrong with that, but if i had a aryan sister i wouldn't let her go there without a male companion
>>61432435
This picture gives me an erection.
>>61432435
only icelanders are considered white desu
>>61432688
Oh look, is the butthurt canadian who got his gf stolen by a southern european
Iberians have that Morrocan look to them.
>>61432871
I am not my sister's keeper
>>61432871
>but if i had a aryan sister i wouldn't let her go there without a male companion
Wot. This place is safer than most of your white europe.
>>61432931
That's exactly what happend cavron. Thank god I'm white.
>if you're dark it means you have you're not European
Too bad Sardinians and Basques prove that theory wrong. They have the purest genes of the continent and they're pretty dark.
>>61433021
Ya but Iberians have the ficki-ficki genes and look like Morrocans and are prone to act like them as well.
>>61433084
>and are prone to act like them as well
No we don't.
As you can see by this pic of my feet, i have the purest angolan genes in me and as such it prooved that Portugal is, without a doubt, a sub-sahaarian country.
Jesus why does this thread even exist?
Comparing Portugal to stinking europe... We shared the spaceships with the egyptians, the greatest black civilization ever
>>61433068
These are whites.
>>61432688
>The butthurt Iberians get when you show them how they're not white is one of the funniest sites I've seen.
What are you fumbling? Iberians couldn't care less. They view themselves as Hispanic and that's about it.
>>61432590
Don't listen to all these sleeping pieces of shit, japs and manchus are eastern aryan tribes and whiter than for example englishmen, french, germans etc.
>>61432965
That's because the spainiards colonised them and the ones that look more southern european are usually the elite
>>61433119
Really quite incredibly gross feet desu
>>61433141
Spanish posters I've seen literally claim to be black which is hilarious desu
>>61433141
We view ourselves as iberians tough.
Hispanics are spainiards mixed with native americans
>>61433084
all poor people are prone to act the same regardless of race
>>61433240
Good. i don't want to attract foot fetishists
>>61432590
japanese men are developmentally stunted... AND yellow
This is the end-all of whiteness measurement
>>61433084
We don't need to rape anyone when we can just seduce them.
>>61432688
Why didn't you read the source where your image is from? That haplogroup was brought to Europe by the farmers from the neolithic era. That's is why Sardinia picks a bit of it too since they're the closest people to those farmers:
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J1_Y-DNA.shtml#J1-P58
>>61432435
op is that ashley jessica?
>>61433119
ZOMBIE !
>>61433445
Germans, french and most danes are not white either
>>61433445
What is that line?
>>61433688
danube
>>61433021
for a man sure but southern euros and arabs are known for praying on blonde germanic and slavic women non-stop at their beaches
>>61433803
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling.
>>61433476
It's sourced already. J1-P58 is most dominant amongst Gulf Arabs ie pure Arabs. Therefore you've been cucked by them and you share blood with them. You are them.
>>61432435
light-brown women are GOAT tho
>>61433884
it ain't easy being aryan everyone hates you, can't even let your mother and sister go anywhere besides neighboring countries cuz brown people get hard just for seeing yellow hair and blue eyes, constantly groping them and trying to trade them for sheep and goats
>>61433885
Read the "Is J1-P58 the main Arabic paternal lineage?" section. There's no way it was brought to Europe by recent migrations because Sardinians have a lot of it and they're quite shifted from modern Middle Easterners genetically.
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>>61432435
Who is this boner toner?
4chan's obsession with race has gone so far that some Europeans aren't even considered white anymore. This is getting ridiculous
>>61434192
european=/=white
look at spanish footballers like xavi,busquetes,pedro,silva and tell me they naturally brown skinned people are white
>>61433119
disgusting mate ahahhahaa
>>61434429
So does that mean that western civilization was founded by nonwhites and Aryanism is just a meme?
>>61434512
It's funny how this bulgarian is so eager to call us non-whites yet he is bascially a turk
Because we were the ones who invented race wars to begin with you fucktard.
We where the ones who started the whole white > shitskin.
During the reconquista, christian knights would pull their sleeves up and show their blue veins to troll the shitskins, and so the first concept of "white people" was born.
We drew the line. Then some butthurt anglos were angry at the Spanish or Irish or something so they decided that white only applies to Anglos (and Germans since they made up most of America in those times) and now here we are.
>>61434429
Canarians aren't even full Spaniards, and Silva is also half-jap.
But keep cherrypicking anyways.
>>61433037
>cavron
Did you mean cabron?
>>61433037
chupame la pinga CAVRON AJJAJAJA
>>61434621
Didn't knew about the blue veins trolling
Nice
>>61434429
dude, Roman empire and Spanish empire were the angular stones of european civilization and if not the creators atleast the bigest promotors of "muh superior race and civilization" before uncle adolf get all edgy about it of course
>>61434512
its we wuz tier to call people with brown skin white just to claim their accomplishments imho
>>61434567
nothing wrong with being non-white but you guys should be more calm around blonde women. its just a hair color don't be so creepy about it
>>61434775
>nothing wrong with being non-white but you guys should be more calm around blonde women. its just a hair color don't be so creepy about it
I'm starting to sense personal reasons.
Go away before i show you my blue veins
>>61434643
silva said in interview that he isn't asian i trust him more on that then you m8
>>61434512
>tfw the only real whites are barbarians who raped and pillaged their way into pretending to be civilized
>>61434853
kinda. my cousin was raped in malaga for just being blonde
>>61434775
>we wuz
Says the steppe nomad
You literally have no accomplishments and were better off as a turkish region.
>>61435007
steady
>>61434512
Etruscans and Minoans were pretty dark judging by their frescos and they were one the earlier civilized people of Europe.
>>61434966
So she got raped, she was blonde, and you assume Iberians automatically rape everyone who is blonde?
Do you realise that millions of blonde people exist in Spain and they aren't being raped right now?
You're just butthurt and it is clouding your judgement.
>>61435062
>steady
>tfw slavic speaking turks do the "we wuz romans"
I find it funny that the Iberians started all this
>white
thing because of the reconquista.
Like >>61434621 said people would roll their sleeves to show the blue veins and prove you're an old christian.
We applied that same thing to the Empires because of the races around the world.
Now if we're to discuss if other people look whiter than us or if some non-whites stayed here after the reconquista that's another thing.
Plus some areas in the peninsula are much more whiter than others.
Hence the North South banter.
I'm a cumskin myself and can't tan I find it funny when this is discussed, specially by Eastern Euros or new worlders because they have zero (0) history (US and Russia get a pass).
Iberians invented the term "White" during the empire. What is this bullshit.
>>61435596
>Spaniards start stupid memes
>memes turn themselves against them
Well deserved desu.
>>61433119
Those are a good pair of proto-european feet.
I keked.
>>61434966
>>61435139
Kek I'm dirty blonde and my sister is blonde and she never got raped.
What the fuck are you talking about.
Do you realize blondes exist here right?
>>61435596
This.
Those stereotypical looks you speak from the Southern Areas of the peninsula aren't even dominant for some reason so nothing to worry.
My friend's parents , his father is blonde blue eyed cumskin and his mother is a more Southern Iberian with Olive skin brown hair. All 5 kids came out looking like the father with different eye colors.
If genes from the North of Iberia are that dominant just imagine what a northern euro would do.
Figo's daughters are that example.
Another thread trying to point to those who are "less white" and with presence of the butthurt Canadian, nothing new under the sun.
>>61433021
>This place is safer than most of your white europe.
It's safer from rape. It certainly isn't safer from them wanting to try mediterranean cock of their own volition. From that point of view, you're (and us for that matter) riskier than India for untouchable women.
>>61436259
Well of course, but can you blame their women? Most of them haven't seen a real man in their entire lives until they come here.
>>61435596
>Iberians invented the term "White" during the empire. What is this bullshit.
Shit backfired on you.
Which by the way should have been obvious, given that at that point you had already been socially segregating hidalgos and moriscos for centuries, and that the rest of Europe already called you moor-bloods back then and would continue to do so until like the 17th century.
>>61432590
Can someone explain this? I've seen a few Asians claim it. But all of the skin color charts based on samples I've seen put Japan and Korea on par or below Mediterraneans. Why are Caucasians called bright/light/white people in Japan? I've seen two types of white girls in Japanese porno, quite dark tanned blondes sometimes, but mostly white girls where the difference in skin tone is just day and night compared to the natives. All the half white 'idols' I've seen the tone is again day and night.
I think most non-white people have a bit thicker skin and mongols and eskimos have the thickest skin so there may be a more even skin tone and white people could appear red sometimes or have their veins or tissue blast through, because the skin isn't literally white but translucent. From photos many women from Turkey, North India, China, ASEAN, appear whiter than white women. I know skin whitening (or brightening as some insist) is popular throughout Asia and Africa too.
I've never seen mongols in real life though I was just once shocked when I visited Turkey how white most women were when I expected them to be brown. Still I feel absolutely ridiculous typing this and responding to a bait.
Thoughts anyone?
>>61436428
>can you blame their women?
Well yes actually. I'd like my women to stay loyal to their blood rather than their instincts.
Of course that's impossible, so in fact I can't blame them. That however only makes the "aryan"' fear more justified tho, them being naturally attacted by med dick only makes their vaginal integrity even more threatened.
>all this discussion about skin colour
oh the insecurity
>>61436559
>compared to the natives
And i mean compared to native girls, not men, Japanese men are pretty often very brown.
>>61436559
>Can someone explain this?
Japan is a sunny country and unless you're genetically defective, you're gonna tan under the sun.
Paleness however is considered attractive by japs, so some girls make an effort to stay as white as possible.
Their natural skin tone for the most part wouldn't look amiss on the average european.
>>61436559
The only thing I know is Jap tourist here do whatever they can to try and stay out of the sun.
While we here either tan or not (some can, other can't) we use sunscreen. So at the very least you get that "golden" look because the sun bleaches hair everywhere or you get that super olive tan. This applies to other Euros as well.
Japs and Koreans (and even Chinese) wear full body kit to prevent the sun. While we use t-shirts and sunglasses they walk around fully covered with sunglasses PLUS a umbrella.
Somebody told me they tan real fast and they don't like to be confused with other Asians.
Not sure if true though.
>>61436732
Lots of sunlight but USA, Italy still have more, and cities you aren't gonna tan in no matter your defections.
>>61436809
>Somebody told me they tan real fast
This is somewhat true too but the scale is still from what I gather from light brown-yellowish tint at its whitest (That appears quite white when in well lit conditions) to brown from what I've seen in pornos. Even the fairest girls have a slight brown tint indoors.
Mongolians though in Mongolia and its China border are decisively whiter than any other Asian and I'd say as white in skin tone as Europeans. Arctic mongols though aren't at all because they got all the d vitamin from fish and seal
>>61432435
Spain not white old meme
>Sure, I'll play along.
Yes, you're right Bulgaria and we shamefully hide it because we are all moors who look like South Americans.
>>61433068
pure inbred sheep-shagging subhuman genes
>>61433445
>the creators of the roman empire and therefore of european identity are not white
>mudhut-dwelling irrelevant cheese-cutters are
I'd rather be brown 2bh
>>61432931
>>61433037
>cavron
I'm fucking dying lmao
>bulgaria
>literally the most scum subhuman race of europa
>calling other non whites.
top kek
>>61439649
But all Greek philosophers were Nordic and all roman emperors and patricians were Nordic.
>>61434756
top kek
Most people who call Iberians non-white are Arabs. I can tell the difference most times, it's not even hard if you know a bit about facial features.
I think they are just jelly t b h
>this whole thread
let me tell you about your country
tfw 15 generations of pure dutch genes in my blood. Tfw tanned af. Life is unfair 3:
>>61439885
They want people to believe that Spain belongs to them or something.
It's the same "we are all the same" discourse we hear everyday for justifying immigration and multiculturalism.
>>61440262
Most of us aren't born brown either m8. But the Sun is a whore.
>>61440262
Now the undoxxable version
>>61440364
I know, but people aks me constantly if I have non-dutch ancestory, or start speaking to me in english :/
funny how a country that is 50% gypsy dares to talk shit about others
>>61432435
Who is this dick spic?
>>61440372
>a tan in european standards
>>61440547
carmen de mairena
google for nude pics
>>61440424
Oh, I understand your frustration then...
Why are you tanned? Do you spend a lot of time in sunny places?
>>61440647
>>61440647
pic related
>>61440707
Nah I just tan easily. This tan is due to being outside for 4-5 hours a week in cloudy dutch weather. Which is quite a lot for modern times.
How tanned are you yourself?
>>61439885
We look like árabs, if you have never visited Spain is your problem.
>>61440834
not that anon, but when I tan I get just as dark as pic related
I'm primarily Iberian
>>61432435
Oh look, another thread about "muh racial purity".
monaco is iberia
prove me wrong
>>61440970
That is a noice tan.
Weird question:
What colour is your body hair/pubes?
Mine are lighter than the hair on my head/ are boderline blonde. Genes are weird af.
>>61440834
My face and forearms are mid-tanned. Most of my body is pale.
I do not get out more than necessary. (I don't like the beach).
Overall, I'm probably paler than you. But as I have dark body hair, my tan easily "magnifies"
>>61440970
Lol, shitskin, kill yourself
>>61441179
kek pretty similar,
my hair is black, with some blonde highlights
my beard is fully blonde,
>>61441097
It's Italy.
>>61432435
portugal is white,spain,not so much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD3tzVQmeGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HGjfENrOKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBfzyN32yjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVk3Iuo3Hk0
>>61442057
t. Alberto Barbosa
Sure.
>>61442214
Would make more sense if it was Portugal instead.
>Europeantugal
Do they really have that few non-Euro immigrants? I thought they had a lot of them from their African colonies and Brazil.
>>61442466
>Would make more sense if it was Portugal instead.
No because they are Afrcans.
>>61442466
we have like 1,6% africans counting with the returning whites portuguese that were in the colonies before the 1974 revolution
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luso-africanos
the other 2% are ukrainians and brazilians
>>61442833
jesus fucking christ what the fuck is the problem with spaniards,they are passive agaisn't other european countries but when it comes to us they chimp the fuck out...
>>61442466
Mulattos are counted as full euro like in Br
>>61442466
>I thought they had a lot of them from their African colonies and Brazil.
they're all stuffed in Lisbon and the surrounding area, making them very visible
but they practically don't exist outside the capital
>>61443397
Stop bullying the portuguese.
>>61443397
top kek
>>61443397
>Spain attempts to form a government.gif
just gonna go ahead and post my monkey feet
>>61432435
Because their women are hot as fuck and you can actually sleep with them without being honour killed and the men act like normal people and are cool to hang around so we treat them as the same people as they basically are
>>61444806
jesus
go back to the Shire, Frodo
>>61444950
if by Shire you mean Algarve, then heck yea, I'm going back tomorrow
Enjoy sunshine brother
>>61444855
>Iberian women
>hot
>>61445122
Doesn't Iberian just mean Spanish or Portugalese
>>61444855
Thanks m8. That's nice.
>>61439753
Who just happened to be born in Italy and Serbia.
Because 17 roman emperors come from territory of Serbia, second only to italy itself.
>>61432590
My skin is really pale and "white" looking, but it has this weird yellowish tinge to it, while real whiteys have a pinkish, reddish tinge to it
Also it can get brownish bronze if I decide to tan
Not true
>>61432688
why there is a peak in switzerland?
>>61442697
>proto italian
That doesn't exist mate, current italian is the language of florence's nobles
>>61445255
not it includes like catalans and basques or something. wait maybe not basques because they're preeuropean
>>61434621
wait, so what are christian iberians then? celts?
>>61447777
christians from asutrias and like galicia
>>61447240
It's the portuguese diaspora
>>61447777
suebians too.
>>61434621
>>61434749
>>61435464
that thing with the blue veins was actually done by the (spanish i think) patricians to the plebians to show that they did not tan because they did not need to work under the sun
>>61432688
delete
>>61439555
el italiANO...
>>61432688
>Europeans
>white
Hot meme son
>>61447240
They don't call them Mountain Jews for nothing
>peak
.5% isn't much of a peak senpai
>>61448755
Me on the left
>>61432590
But do you have pink nipples?
