China and Taiwan. Discuss which is the REAL China, and who has better culture and nature.
>>61403830
Taiwanese food>>>Chinese food, T B H
>Taiwan China
based
>Mainland China
What the fuck is wrong with you
I admire China more than Taiwan simply because Chinese people can be crude, sophisticated, or pretty normal but they all share a diligence to make their country great again after their "century of humiliation." If Americans had the spirit and work ethic of the Chinese, we would crush China in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, liberals hate it when you take pride in your people and nation so that isn't happening.
But for us young first worlders, Taiwan is way better in almost every regard. Sorry Chinabros.
>>61403915
You mean Fujianese food.
Taiwanese food isn't a fucking thing.
>>61403958
>based
Is that why no one recognizes them and they got cucked off the mainland?
same blood. same culture. different politics. one's an island the others a polluted shithole. don't really care enough about either to make a distinction. heard taiwanese people are taller than chinese people though?
>>61403830
If I had to listen to one or the other, I would prefer listening to mainland Mandarin over island Cantonese.
one is china and one is taiwan
what do you mean which is the real china, only one is china
>inb4 the republic of china meme
>>61404762
Taiwanese have more aborigine/Austronesian blood
>>61404210
>Unfortunately, liberals hate it when you take pride in your people and nation so that isn't happening.
>>61405210
They speak Hoklo on the island not Canto
China is the real China because its China but Taiwan has the better culture because it is true chinese culture without the commipurge.
To create ultimate true china have Taiwan impose its culture upon the Mainland.
>>61403830
How does taiwan feel about copyright laws?
>>61403830
This is real China.
>>61403830
>Be me
>On a Skype interview with a commitee for a job in a Taiwanese company
>Mention "Mainland" China
>We'll call you back Anon
>"Unfortunately,...despite...we regret..."
>>61403830
>Discuss which is the REAL China, and who has better culture and nature.
Both ROC
>>61404210
That's a straw man, but it isn't your fault. When libs say that they hate whites, they're referring to the people on /pol/. White nationalists, gun enthusiasts, anti-semitics, fascists, the stereotypical white American. They love Swedes and take pride in their own culture. The reason I say it isn't your fault is because it can easily be taken out of context when a white lib says "I hate whites." How do I know this? Because I am a lib.
>>61405480
Why would you purposely push the one button every Taiwanese person carries?
>>61405527
>they're referring to the people on /pol/... gun enthusiasts
End yourself, don't group me with /pol/
>>61405463
rightful korean clay.
There would be no PRC if not for Japan carving the way up for them during the Pacific War.
>>61405577
>Ironic process theory or the white bear problem refers to the psychological process whereby deliberate attempts to suppress certain thoughts make them more likely to surface. An example is how when someone is actively trying not to think of a white bear they may actually be more likely to imagine one :(
>>61405480
Eh, that'll happen sometimes. But if you were to mention Taiwan when doing a job interview on Mainlandia they would kill you instead of all that.
>>61405659
It wasn't a the pacific war until 1941, japan had been fighting in china since manchuria in 1931 and an all out open conflict in 1937
just because the ccp won doesn't mean japan didn't kill indiscriminately
>>61404762
>Taiwan
>not a polluted shithole
It's essentially the same as Jiangsu.
>>61405363
That's simply not true. 90%+ of Taiwan's Chinese are Hokkien. That means they are from the Mainland within the last 3 generations.
>>61405367
It's a /pol/tier post but he has a point. Chinese try hard to improve their nation.
>>61405400
What? Taiwan's Chinese is Mandarin.
>>61405416
Agreed
>>61405418
They were our "China" in 1950-1980.
So they don't respect them much, but more than Mainland companies.
>>61405463
What?
>>61405480
The majority of Taiwan's Chinese are perfectly fine with the Mainland.
KMT got elected for 8 years in a row 2007-2015.
>>61405515
>better nature
>ROC
Nope.
>>61405527
You don't know some liberals then.
>>61405591
I meant radical gun enthusiasts. I love guns myself.
>>61405660
Bummer
You could have just apologized and said ARR ROOK SAME and they would have forgiven you.
post taiwan girls
>>61405749
>It wasn't a the pacific war until 1941
Sino-japanese war then.
>just because the ccp won doesn't mean japan didn't kill indiscriminately
Never implied that.
>>61405771
t. Zhou Yongkang
>>61403830
Why do we never had a /ch/ thread?
>>61405771
>>better nature
>>ROC
>Nope.
Forgot to omit that part
The non polluted parts of the PRC can be butiful
>>61405771
All of the libs that literally hate all of the white race are actually just leftists trying to hide it by calling themselves liberals.
>>61403830
PRC is the real China simply because it controls most of the land. ROC is the better government by far though, China could have already taken over America in GDP if they implemented sensible economic policies sooner rather than later.
>>61405738
What?
Taiwanese companies make the majority of their revenues and profit on the mainland.
Stop these fucking memes.
>>61405577
>all Taiwan Chinese
DPP != all Taiwan's people
>>61405833
t. No argument
>>61405835
Chinese don't post here despite the
>OMG HE DISAGREED MUST BE 50 CENT
meme
>>61405851
Okay.
>>61405913
but what about muh exports
>>61405832
the commie dedicated their whole standing army in a unified front against japan under the nationalist command
the civil war has been going on in china since the warlords era the invasion of japan just happened to be more urgent
>>61405935
>it's another pro-Chinese shill episode
>>61406006
Bullshit. They stood back and let the nationalists bleed while contributing token forces to fight the Japanese. If Chiang hadn't been so weakened by the war, they would have lost.
>>61406006
Yet the CCP would not win if the ROC was not devastated, even if they did lose many of their own manpower fighting united against Japan.
The communist party, after 200 years of misrule, war, foreign invasion, famine and social chaos made China great again.
And they know a thing or 2 about building walls
>>61404660
nah, i mean taiwanese food.
I had been doing business with china for 8 years
我也可以写汉语一点儿
chinks are just scammers
and guanxi is just plain shit
chinks will not miss a single oportunity to cheat you
all the free meal and meeting are just to study your personality and check the best way to scam you
never ever ever trust on a chink
fuck their women its ok
but never let your decisions be influenced by them
the whole alibaba is just a massive scam
>>61406058
don't lie
just because you don't like the sound of it doesn't mean it didn't happen
>>61406067
the nationalists got a lot of help from america, more material than before the war, they squandered it, there are plenty of evidence that the us government got fed with chiang in his wastage
>>61406151
Fuck off peru
>>61406078
>China great again.
don't worry it's still shit
>>61406289
after you chinaman
>>61406351
Not talking to you, Marco.
>>61406384
fuck off chink
>>61406024
>pro-Chinese shill
Where?
>>61406058
Nice bait you got there. Historical fact is that nearly a million Communist fighters died against Japan 1937-1945. The Communists were also the first ones to fight the Japanese when they invaded Beijing, not the Nationalists who were trying to not "provoke" them.
>>61406095
Is there such a thing?
Because all Taiwanese food is literally Chinese food. Specifically from Fujian.
>>61406151
t. I suck at business
>>61406303
A lot less than it was just a few decades ago.
>>61406445
>anecdotes from 4chan are fact
>>61406938
The most notable battle between the chinese communist and the Japanese imperialist, was a battle in a desert, everything other battle was fought by the nationalist. Taiwanese food however, is independent from the mainland, have you ever been there? If you have, you would realize that the food there is a combination of cuisines from Japan, aboriginals, and from different periods of China.
>>61403830
All those stories you hear about China? They are true, don't ever move there. Any Chinese who lives there who says that China is good is lying or insane, that is why they try to move to other places such as Hong kong and Taiwan. It is going to get worse too, once the bubble pops, they are going to get into deeper shit. For the love of God, don't go to China, even India is a better choice. There is nothing better you can get in China than anywhere else in the world. Maoism made sure of that.
>>61408238
>once the bubble pops
>Said everyone for the last 20 years.
>>61408238
>even India is a better choice.
Your bait was going so smoothly until here.
>>61408472
It amuses me when people say something is never going to happen, but when it does, they shit themselves and throw themselves off a building. Americans are quick to forget about the bubble that popped back in 2008, and how shitty things have been since then. Or the 1997 financial crisis, when a bunch of governments were freaking out about one south eastern nation infamous for ladyboys and the contagion effects. Read a goddamn history book.
>>61408540
Unlike India, you could get detained and never be let go. So it actually is better because you can leave.
>>61408600
How is this an argument? We've heard
>le China bubble
since 1989 with Tian.
Meanwhile their economy is 30x larger now.
Even a broken clock can be right of course, but I and $4 trillion in foreign investment is betting the clock is still wrong.
>>61408646
>Unlike India you can be detained and never be let go
You have never been to India. India's civil liberties are horrible and barely enforced.
Mainland of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9wk5lgGFo&index=36&list=WL
If you are looking from a History perspective, ROC is the true China.
But if are like the most of the moronic masses/UN/business man and money whore than it is the commie.
>>61405480
One thing you should never do is mention any political stuff in front of us unless you have the intention of start a conversation about it or you all are drinking.
>>61403830
my motherboard was made by taiwan and my psu from china whichever poops out first will tell me which country is shit
>>61409338
>ROC is the true China.
>Overthrow Qing dynasty
>Erase 1000s of years of Chinese culture
>No trust us we're the real China.
>>61409489
By this argument I would argue that PORC is even less of a true China, perhaps you forgot about the culture revolution?
We never "erase" Chinese culture, we only overthrown the ruler, go read more books and stop chucking burger down your throat.
im a black software engineer who wants to move to taiwan for 1-2 years, how will i be treated? What technologies and programming languages are lucrative there? i speak very basic mando, still studying it; dont know any hokkien
>>61409826
You should be fine, we usually treat people who have a different skin color a lot more nicer than treat people who have the same skin color. Our police will never shot you if that's what you want to know.
As for technologies and programming languages, as far as I know they are pretty standard stuff(JAVA,C++...etc.)
>>61409984
Do you guys like Trump or Hillary more?
>>61410200
None, no matter who got elected we still have to buy shit from your junk yard. But Hillary for the lols and Trump for the uta-lols.
>>61403830
I remember reading somewhere that because of the vague wording in several treaties after World War 2, Taiwan is technically American territory. So I'll go ahead and say that Los Formosas son Americanas
>>61408934
Kek, their economy is 30x bigger, while their debt is 60x bigger. Try harder commie scum.And no offence, but India has better civil liberties than the PRC does. They actually have rule of law, unlike some countries.
>>61409489
>Implying Manchus were real chinese. Implying that the ROC did not avenge the Ming dynasty by overthrowing braid hairs.
>>61410904
>Taiwan is technically American territory
>mfw a former Taiwanese president Chen literally said Taiwanese court cannot put him into prison because Taiwan is an American territory when he was charged for receiving bribe
>>61405913
Better government? You better be fucking joking
>>61409599
Why don't you suck japanese cock more? Your "culture" is a sickening blend of...well, shit.
>>61409984
That's a load of shit. I bet you're an english teacher or a second gen asian American. Taiwan is full of retards.
>>61411090
Have you been to India? Like for real, go there. Then tell me how much better it is than the PRC with a straight face.
Republic of China is true China and is our greatest ally.
