Britbongs of /int/.
Do you guys learn of the viking raids and the dane era in school?
I remember my danish teacher in something like 1st or 2nd grade told us, that we had to learn to read and write because that's how King Alfred beat us and took back England.
We also had extensive history about King Alfred later on.
Did you guys have the same sort of education in our kings and warlords?
>>61403642
I can pretty much guarantee Brits only learn a bit more about British history than we do, so I can answer for them and say no they don't really learn too much about it
>>61403711
Appreciated, burgerfriend.
I was sort of thinking that since we eventually converted to christianity as well, the history regarding the viking era might have been ignored outside Scandinavia.
Just wanted to check out of curiosity.
Dude, we don't even learn about Vikings, what the fuck do you think?
>>61403860
Where are you from, mate? We had a fuckton about them, both in history and danish. Might've been my teachers had a hard on for them, can't say.
we learn about vikings in primary school yeah, and how they were essentially savages and we were highly advanced and enlightened
We briefly go over the Vikings invasions, history mainly is focused on the 1066 Norman invasion and WW1 /WW2 though.
>>61403642
Briefly yeah
>>61403980
We, or I appearantly, was tought that once the danes settles in Northumbria, they would often send their sons to train with the irish for roughly 5 years. Don't think I've ever heard of any big raids on the irish coasts, though they would ofcourse have happened every now and then.
>>61404106
Yeah, more or less the same here. Except we focus more on Nelson's assault on Copenhagen. And WW2 ofcourse
>>61403642
Everyone knows about it but no one learns about it in school
Modern Danes are Danified Germans. They're not related to Vikings.
Asking yourself this question: Would OP more likely be a bodyguard for a Byzantine emperor or suck dick?
Yes actually.
Though I'm not sure what I learned in school and what I learned from reading books.
>>61404216
>>61404287
Odd. Do you not learn about Alfred?
I was tought he was one of the greatest kings England ever had, and that was due to defending Wessex and reclaiming England.
>>61404304
Yeah I know what you mean, mate. I remember specific things from class, but alot of my knowledge on the subject might be from books and self-research
>>61404297
You know, our country has not been conquered for a 1000 years before 1940
>>61404350
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-curriculum-in-england-history-programmes-of-study/national-curriculum-in-england-history-programmes-of-study
Don't your countries teach you all about your history ?
Or only the highlights ?
>>61404437
I remember learning about the Romans onwards in some manner.
Also some on ancient Greece/Egypt too
>>61404220
the danes founded dublin, they settled the south bank (there was already a small settlement on the north bank) of the river liffey, known as the affluent part of dublin today
then the norwegians came and conquered it from the danes and banished the danes to what is now a suburb to the north of dublin called finglas which is a shithole
an archaic dialect of english called fingallian was spoken there until the 19th century, unrelated to danish though
>>61404437
To be honest, I think I learned a lot about the viking era. But the gap from when we converted, untill say WW1, is pretty much left blank.
They focus on various important danish figures inbetween, like Tycho Brae and such, but not really about society pr say.
>>61404531
That's right, mate, I remember that. They founded Dublin, but it wasn't much more than a village, was it?
>>61404437
We had a shit ton of graphic cartoons showing Britons mowing down Africans with semi automatic weapons, while the Africans only had spear/bow and arrow.
>>61404537
Thats surprising, you were very relevant up until after the 30 years war
>>61404600
no I mean the gap from the conversion to christianity to WW1 is pretty much left out.
Probably 70% of our history in school is from 1910 to [current year]
>>61404669
Yes I know I was just saying that's surprising thay such a gap is thete due to your relevancy ending like 600 years after your conversion, with a breif stint of relevancy in Napolean's time.
>>61404669
All I remember from middle school is WWI, WWII, and Cold War. Only in High School do I remember it spanning out to ancient Egypt and the Romans and all that.
>>61404297
>Would OP more likely be a bodyguard for a Byzantine emperor or suck dick?
But they did both
>>61404777
Hm, maybe my teachers just had a boner for viking history. I thought it was curriculum.
>>61404773
Oh I see, but yeah, I agree. It is odd, but I suppose they somehow reason that only highlights and modern history are relevant.
I can hear my fellow countrymen saying they were never tought as much as I was about specific events and people in the viking era.
>>61404870
What grade? I guess it could have been around 5th grade or earlier. But I can't remember anything that wasn't WWI material, or Danish writers and farmers and all that, from around 6th grade and up.
>>61404937
Well, as I said in the first post, around 1st or 2nd grade my teacher said we should read and write because of King Albert.
Ofcourse we asked who the fuck that was aso., but yeah around 4th or 5th (can't remember when we get history lessons) they started throuroghly teaching viking history.
I've always thought it was curriculum, but the other danes in the thread seem to disagree, so it must just have been personal for my teacher.
>>61404417
>The influence of Low Saxon and Dutch on the Scandinavian languages during the late medieval and early modern period has been profound. Some commentators have compared it to the huge influence, both at the lexical and structural levels, that Norman French exerted on late Old English following the Norman Conquest. During the course of the medieval period, Danish for example borrowed more than 1500 new words, some of which were loaned from Latin, but the great majority came in from Middle Low German.
The difference is while Britain was conquered by Normans, Denmark was peacefully settled by waves of German merchants who probably looked like Borat.
Also due to the genetic bottleneck during the Black Death, all modern Danes descended from the merchants and some native peasants. I have a hard time believing Danes are related to Vikings, they have nothing in common. Danes wear hipster glasses and hold signs that say "I need feminism because...." Danes are faggots.
>>61405075
It probably was a personal thing with that guy. My German teacher in 9th grade once spent a whole lesson talking about his own personal experience with the DDR but also general stories. At the exam this was the only thing I could remember from the classes and I ended up getting the highest grade for it, so that was nice.
>>61405143
I'm guessing your (ex)girlfriend or the girl you had a crush on got fucked by a Dane on vacation in the US.
>>61405173
Yeah, Im thinking it was a personal thing now.
But other than that, I can agree on by far the vast majority of history being tought, is regarding 2nd world war and how evil the germans were.
>>61405202
He does seem a little too buttblasted for a common burgerclap, doesn't he?
>>61405268
Shit I just remembered because of
>and how evil the germans were
at one point we had to watch a movie on Auschwitz and the Holocaust in general, and we were in the movie room with our Danish teacher. After a while even our teacher thought it was boring so we only watched an hour of it. I think there were 5 or 6 episodes in total, an hour each.
>>61403860
How the fuck can you NOT learn about vikings as dane?
>>61405344
Mate, the holocaust shilling is fucking unreal in early years of school.
I think I know excactly what you are talking about, as well.
>>61405373
As far as I remember we learnt more about the time when peasants reigned and all that. H.C. Andersen and Kierkegaard.
>>61405385
I can't remember anyone really caring about it. I remember being very interested in the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think I always had an interest in a global nuclear war. Some things never change I guess.
>>61404106
Jesus Christ. We focused primarily on 'muh slavery' and 'muh civil rights'.
>>61405528
>I remember being very interested in the Cuban Missile Crisis
min bror.
The cold war was pretty cool. At least now, from this generation perspective. Also, excactly we learned more about the peasant era as you say.
I've always been into science and I have masters in biochemistry now, so I did alot of research on Niels Bohr on my own. Which is one person that is completely overlooked in danish history, outside of niche science history.
Do you have any information about the Danish and Norwegian settlement patterns in Normandy?
>>61405604
Yeah, what's up with all that "black history month" nonsense? It doesn't even seem like it's about history as much as guilttripping.
It would be like if we had a "Saxon history month" because of the vikings.
>>61405604
How much did you have on based George? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc
>>61405143
But Vikings were merchants and peasants.
>>61405692
To be fair, nobody cared about Black History Month when I was in school. Blacks really have no important or interesting figures that were not involved in the civil rights or abolitionist movement.
>>61405961
Yeah, figured/hoped as much.
On another note, is the American public schoolsystem as bad as the memes?
Most americans I talk to over 4chan don't seem stupid, even when disagreeing.
Can Danes somewhat understand Old Norse (Old Icelandic)? What do you think about Harold Bluetooth?
>>61405635
Peasant era we really dug into in High School. I wasn't into /lit/ at all back then so I didn't care then but now I do.
>and I have masters in biochemistry
I tried getting into STEM but I quickly found out I'm not about that life. Going to try for history next.
I remember Bohr being referenced a lot in science class both in middle and High school, but we never actually learnt about him per say.
>>61406052
>is the American public schoolsystem as bad as the memes?
It's just the mostly black school districts because they're lost causes
>>61405373
Why would he? Danes aren't related to Vikings.
>>61406074
Some few words still sound similiar to us.
But I think Faeroe islanders and Icelandics would stand a way better chance than us.
They use a lot of the same ancient words, albeit mordernised over a thousand years.
And we (or maybe just me) learned a lot about Bluetooth. I think every dane knows him, it's just how much they know about him that varies.
>>61406052
It really depends on the neighborhood. Wealthier suburban neighborhoods have decent schools, whereas poor rural or inner-city school are just terrible. In general, we are geographically challenged, though.
>>61403642
Yes, a little bit.
>>61406139
ebin meme
>>61406132
>>61406144
Yeah, that's just the same all over the world, isn't it? Black/ghetto areas will automatically just be worse. I figured as much, just wanted an actual relevant input.
>>61406139
I think a porn franchise like BLACKED has to be started up but using ethnic Nordics instead. I can call it: NORDIC'D. Hopefully this would both anger and arouse you.
>>61406092
>but we never actually learnt about him per say.
I know right, that bothers me.
The man invented the periodic table and helped split the atom. He should at least be on par with H.C. Andersen.
But I'm biased because of my work, though
>>61406141
Yeah, but what's your opinion on him? He converted the Danes to Christianity and lost lots of territory to the Germans. He seems like a terrible konungr to me.
>>61405881
Yes? and Danes aren't related to them. Danes are effeminate losers.
>>61406074
Icelandic and Old Norse are incomprehensible to Danes as Old English is to modern English speakers. Also the Dutch influence on Danish made Danish sound like anal noises which made it distinct from the other Scandinavian languages.
Yeah we went over them in primary school.
Basically ginger and blonde niggers who harassed monasteries for their wealth. the monasticism built round towers to prevent the vikings form taking their stuff.
After that some Viking decided Ireland was not such a bad place so they settled, built Dublin, married Irish women, learned the language and as the saying goes became more Irish than the Irish themselves.
Thats why we have ginger and blonde Irish people.
Something about Viking settling in Normandy as well and becoming the Normans who were called in the British to help take over Ireland.
Richard de clare or strongbow was married to the the king of leinsters daughter.
Same thing eventually happened as the vikings and they integrated.
>>61406380
Indeed. That is generally what splits people.
Some see him as the greatest king we ever had, and others see him as the one who lost everything.
Personally, I don't see him as a great king. Without knowing the details though, I assume he converted out of necessity.
We couldn't have held the danish empire for much longer as it were, without written words or discipline amongst warlords.
I suspect, without knowing at all, that he wasn't christian and thought it would blow over.
The legend goes that a germanic monk came to him and said he would wear a gauntlet of molden steel, and if he could do so without getting scorched, the danes would convert.
>>61406535
>We couldn't have held the danish empire for much longer as it were, without written words or discipline amongst warlords.
>I suspect, without knowing at all, that he wasn't christian and thought it would blow over.
I think there's truth to this. If they hadn't converted they would have been left out, so to say, out of the rest of Europe. It was basically a form of catching up and entering the European "market". A shame it had to happen, but it is what it is. If anything one should go back further to the Romans and be a bit pissed that they didn't crack down much harder on Christians and Jews to end their religions before it overtook the Roman/Greek, and by extension, the Northern European religions.
>>61406503
That's the sort of above basic knowledge I thought were being tought.
Mind you, I wasn't tough a lot about the danish presence in Ireland, other than the irish were teaching the danish boys to fight, then sending them back.
But I suppose a bunch of them would've stayed and gotten married to an irish girl and settled, so forth.
>>61406635
>and be a bit pissed that they didn't crack down much harder on Christians and Jews to end their religions
This was probably the only way that the norse reign would've continued, desu
>>61406638
Don't know about the Danes we were never thought what exact Viking they were, Vikings and Scandinavia were just mentioned.
All our major cities are Viking cities though, Dublin and Kilkenny being the only ones I can name.
>>61406503
>>61406638
>tfw ywn be sent to Ireland to be trained and sent back to Denmark but end up staying because of meeting a qt Irish lass
Hold me, gutter.
>>61406690
>ywn be send to military camp in Ireland only to find qt redhead celtic witch to marry
>>61406503
I'm pretty sure the Cambro-Normans acted independently when they conquered eastern Ireland. The English monarchy didn't really have control over them and I remember one story where some royal envoy bearing words from the king got his tongue cut off and his eyes gouged out by some Cambro-Norman lords.
>>61406687
Danes owned Norway at the time, and Sweden was confined to raiding shitty baltic villages, so the vikings that came to you guys were danish.
>>61406194
Not sure why you're bringing up cuck porn. Must be a modern Danish thing.
>>61406792
I'm bringing it up because apparently Americans, such as yourself, love it, and I figured you would both enjoy and be angered by another kind of cuckolding. Add to the fact that a Dane actually did cuck you in real life and it just makes it that much sweeter.
>>61406762
>I'm pretty sure the Cambro-Normans acted independently when they conquered eastern Ireland
I think this is a big part too. They were age old enemies, and if one part raided the other, it would be very easy to blame viking raids at the time.
>>61403642
Unfortunately no. But we are also not taught about our own old history. We are taught starting with the conquest of America, not before.
The only thing slightly related to this is some mention of the barbarian invasions of Rome, but that's much before the viking era.
>>61406690
>>61406742
Anons I don't mean to kill your fantasy but it was the Vikings who introduced the red and blonde haired genes to Ireland.
Irish women before hand were plain looking with black hair, Vikings probably admired their hardyness.
The Leinster princess I mentioned the norman strongbow married use to tie rocks in her pigtails to beat up boys with by spinning in circled.
>>61406762
The Normans were invited and supported by the British. The king of leinster pissed off the high king of Ireland and was going to lose his kingdom so he asked the British monarchy for help who sent the Normans to Ireland.
I don't think it was fully conquered or even at all conquered by some Normans settling but it was the start of the British occupation of Ireland.
>>61406780
Fair enough.
>>61406864
I once had a girlfriend from Fuerte Ventura whom I lived with north of Valencia for a year.
She told me that if you mention national pride in Spain, people will stand up, with their hands on their hearts, and sing the anthem of the region they are from.
As in Spain is severely segregated in regions.In Valencia half the shop signs were in Valenciano.
>>61406864
>>61403642
(you were asking brits but I answered anyway). Fugg :DD
>>61406864
You aren't taught about Reconquista, Castilla y Leon, Asturias ?
What about Inquisition ?
On Mexico we aren't taught on the Colonial period, prehispanic civilizations yes, from Bering strait, Olmecs (1400 BC) to Aztecs.
Then the colonial gap.
Then Mexico, which, at least with my teachers, was pretty in depth.
>>61406503
The funny thing is Danish homosexuals are apologizing for the actions of a people they have no relations to. It's like American Negroes apologizing to Syria for Egyptians raiding Ancient Syria or something.
>>61406928
>Anons I don't mean to kill your fantasy but it was the Vikings who introduced the red and blonde haired genes to Ireland.
I want my qt redhead celtic witch. Don't make me come back there
Scotfag here and they never mentioned the vikings once. We learn;
>Picts and Romans
>Wars of Independence
>World War 1
>Pre-1939 Nazi Germany
>Irish Migration to Glasgow
>Highland Clearances
>American Manifest Destiny
Vikings aren't mentioned at all. Kids aren't even aware that Orkney and Shetland are basically Scandinavians and have Norwegian accents.
>>61406928
>implying I don't like pale Black-haired girls too
And don't forget the freckles! Irish accent can be great too.
>>61406990
Brian Mikkelsen is a jewish mercenary, don't trust him.
On another note, it's a cool fucking tradition; the viking ship museum here, handcrafts a traditional longboat every year, and sails it to Dublin and burn it. Everyone can voulenteer for it
>>61406828
You're projecting and you keep obsessing over cuck porn. Danes make me sick.
>>61407098
>Danes make me sick.
That happens when one of us hurt your feelings. Don't take it too hard(unlike you're grill), friend.
>>61406990
What the fuck, the Vikings and Norman invasions fucked over some people but as a whole it was best for the entire country.
They settled and added to Irish culture and improved things like buildings and farmings.
Anyways the Irish are not innocent either, we spent a lot of time fucking up Britain by raiding it.
We stole shit, killed people and enslaved their people.
Hell there might be a chance Irish invaders raiding and raping the picts is why they are celtic.
>>61407009
Then come over here and get one, Irish women loves foreigners and gingers are common.
>>61407060
Think Freckles is a trait form the vikings too.
>>61407078
Thats pretty baller.
>>61403642
Very briefly just like the Anglo-Saxons
Most of history I was taught in school was "Slavery is bad" and the two world wars
>>61407022
So odd!
See, the eastcoast scot and scouser fishermen can still communicate in naval language with west coast danish fishermen. Basically all the naval terms are identical in danish and english. I think it should be something to be proud of! Few examples:
>Fish = fisk
>Ship = Skip
>Mast = mast
>Rope = reb
>Steer = styr
>>61407150
>Think Freckles is a trait form the vikings too.
Well than lad what on Earth did we come over to you for? Surely it wasn't simply for the potatoes.
>>61407225
Monasteries full of wealth and Gold guarded by pussy monks who just hoarded it.
The ones who stayed were Irishboos.
>>61407078
No, he's a Dane expressing the views shared by all modern Danes.
>>61407128
Are you stupid? Your cuck obsession is disgusting in the same way that some person suddenly smelling a piece of shit is disgusted.
>>61407225
To be honest, I think it literally was.
The Jutland earth was nearly impossible to till with viking tech, and England, Scotland and Ireland had the most beautiful farming soil in Europe
>>61406951
Well, I'm a Catalan myself so I know a few things about that...
The language thing is normal. We've been speaking Catalan here for 1000 years or more (depends on where you want to cut the line with vulgar Latin), and Valencians started speaking their variant a few centuries after that (Even thought there the population was mixed. Not everyone spoke Catalan) Castillian came much later, here. You can't expect us to just abandon our language for a foreign one.
Regardin the political problem. I think that Spain is the remnant of an Empire, ruled from Castille, not from "all of Spain". And as such, ties are rather weak. (Specially in the pre-Reconquest regions. Catalunya, Galicia, Euskadi, Asturias.)
>>61406980
No, we are not. At least I wasn't. And I wasn't taught about the creation of the Spanish March and thus the birth of the Catalan nation, which is more of my interest.
The inquisition. Well, some mentions, because it's more recent. But not much.
I'd love to be back then and marry viking/Irish hybrid women.
Even though my mothers side is Norman.
>>61407150
>Then come over here and get one, Irish women loves foreigners and gingers are common.
>tfw 6'1 blue eyed, blond viking descend
>tfw literally handed qt celtic witch in the airport
Order the pints, friend, be there in a bit.
>>61407189
I think so too, but most Scots aren't actually aware of the amount of Scandinavian influences here. I personally looked into it because my surname is a variant of the name Sveinn.
North England is much more aware though. Last I visited York they had a viking museum and couldn't stop talking about that shit.
>>61407267
Are you telling me vikings came to the UK to inseminate the fertile(see: thicc) soil? They literally came for the purpose of procreation with the Earth.
Potatoes are from the New World, what did the Irish farm back then ?
>>61407334
>6'1 blue eyed, blond viking descend
Unless you are disgusting or austic you will do well. Get hammered and got to a nightclub called copper faced jacks.
>>61407340
Earth and saxon snatch, buddy
>>61407371
Yeah, don't worry lad, I'm not an autismal 4chumps cellar dwellar. But neat, I've actually been considering going to Ireland, specifically Cork because it looks comfy as fuck.
>>61406864
I was taught about the visigoths, the islamic conquests and the history of the counts of Barcelona and the kings of Aragon in 2nd ESO. General ancient history including greeks, egyptians, romans, etc. in 1rst. Everything from the discovery of America to Francoism in 4th (pretty centered around the most modern periods). Then in Bachiller you get more awful modern history even in more detail, universal in 1st and spanish in 2nd.
>>61407414
Have plenty of kids, we could use some more blondes.
>>61407269
>Well, I'm a Catalan myself so I know a few things about that...
Ah yeah, she said specifically in Cataluña it was a big deal. Around Sevilla as well. Valencia wasn't that bad desu. But I was taking nightcourses in spanish and watching castellano tv to improve, so it's not like I had enough experience with spanish to disect the locals.
>>61406928
>it was the Vikings who introduced the red and blonde haired genes to Ireland.
no it wasn't you retard
>>61407470
Sevilla and the area in general doesn't have a different language kek it's just a weird accent and dialect. It's written the same.
>>61403642
Did you guys learn anything about Sweden and Denmarks relationship?
>>61407425
I barely was (about the pre-America period). Bad school then, I guess. In Bachiller I chose sciences so I only did the Spanish one.
>>61407454
You know, that is how we started to really conquer England; by marrying and having babies.
Perhaps I should carry out this timehonored tradition in the beautiful, rolling hills of Ireland.
>>61407494
Enlighten me senapi.
>>61407470
Sevilla? What do they claim? Their moorishness?
Those turds are so fucking ridiculous.
>>61407506
Not so much in school, but my aunt lived a few kilometers away from where a very famous danish warlord knocked back a swedish invasion.
Gongehovdingen, if you know him?
So they told me a fuckton of stories about the bantz we've been having, including how you guys marched an army over the frozen sea to sack Copenhagen and Roskilde in December.
>>61407506
>>61407551
Well, she told me that Cataluña and Sevilla have the biggest regional pride in Spain.
But I mean she was from Las Canarias, so maybe she wasn't that in tune with the mainland
>>61407497
>>61407551
also that thing that Sevillan chicks wear in their hair is cute as fuck, if they didn't look so angry all the time
>>61407568
Really? We had an entire era on Kalmarunionen (Gustav Vasa and Kristian Tyrann) and Swedish "empire" And no never heard about that guy, i'll def look into it. And the good ol' Frozen lake trick eh? Good one ;)
>>61407647
>We had an entire era
Disregard that i don't know what i meant i think i meant to say we focused on this for a fuck long time.
>>61407512
areas in ireland with the highest frequency of the red hair gene are in the west, historically the region with the lowest settlement of any historical ethnic migration to ireland whether that be the vikings all the way up to the plantations
the theory why some scandavian populations have an unusually higher frequency of red hair is due to the vikings enslaving irish people, especially women
>>61407454
The only thing that Dane is knocking up is his hand. Danes have no family value. You should want Eastern European immigrants. They're fairer and won't push for gender neutral bathrooms.
>>61407647
See, that pissed me off a bit, when I found out;
We literally had nothing about Kalmarunionen. It's ridicioulus.
Not surprised you guys didn't learn about Gongehovdingen, I mean he was just a sort of robin hood, that dismantled a swedish offence, but overall nothing more than a guerilla warrior with 15 minutes of fame. But for some reason he's almost a national treasure here.
>>61407687
I don't care who comes to Ireland as long as they are white Catholics.
Brownos, Protestants and Muslims need not apply.
>>61407685
I actually googled a little, it seems likely we spread the red head gene to the vikings.
>>61407512
somehow I have to agree with this guy >>61407685
Redheads aren't super common in Scandinavia in general. Sure, we have most than some, but I honestly think they might be latent irish genes.
Also I want to get my token redhead celtic witch. West Ireland, ey?
>>61406742
>find qt redhead celtic witch to marry
iktf.
>>61407705
>No Kalmarunionen
Wtf man..it's like if the US would skip their civil war.
The end of the Union would be decisive on how Northern europe would look like form that day on. It's a bit weird you guys don't learn about it really. And however i do think the Danes fought very well in all those wars since you were a smaller country across the "sea" so when we took Scania from you it was a lot harder to try and re take it since you had to transport forces via boat and not like the swedes who just sent horses and marched there.
We learn about them but not in huge detail, it's mostly to build our knowledge of the situation Britain was in before the Normans invaded, and that the Anglo-Saxons fought off an invading Scandinavian army before having to leg it down the country to face the Normans which contributed a lot to the Norman victory.
>>61407593
>>61407507
Well, I went to public school, but it was for pijos and indepes. May be important.
>>61407637
>angry
They're actually pretty chill, just loud. Loud means good in spain, specially the further south you go.
>>61407593
Sevillans and andalusians in general are very prideful, yeah, but it's a completely different story from the catalans. In general most regions are prideful to be honest, even in La Rioja and it's an invented region t.b.h.
I've never met a canarian.
>>61407818
I completely agree, I think its a disgrace.
It may just have been in my school, since the other danes in the thread haven't been tought the same things as me.
And yeah, landapproach is a massive advantage in warfare. I think the only reason the danes ever claimed england, was because of the vast riversystem within, and the longboats accostumed to it
>>61407854
Pijos are rich kids, right ?
Do they teach about the Stockholm massacre ?
What a lovely thread.
>>61407854
>I've never met a canarian.
From the spanish I learned, which was a decent amount, if I can say so myself, the canarians sounded a lot more "soft" in their speech, almost like Argentinians, where as I found people from the Bilbao area sounded very harsh.
But that was just my perspective as a foreigner.
Also
>In general most regions are prideful to be honest
That was her point exactly, that nearly all regions of Spain have more local than national pride.
>>61407938
Yeah, no worries. It's been years since I've used /int/ so forgot how comfy it could be.
>>61407938
No memes or shitposting, it is pretty good.
>>61407998
(I'm not the anon you quote)
>I can say so myself, the canarians sounded a lot more "soft" in their speech, almost like Argentinians, where as I found people from the Bilbao area sounded very harsh.
You are right, Canarian Spanish sounds more like latin-american Spanish.
But to me it sounds horrible. Northern accents (including ours here in Catalonia), sound civilized to me. It sounds slightly "more European" (Althought to me it will never sound as good as Catalan which is objectively more European and pure).
When I hear Spanish from Andalusia, Canarias, Latin-America... I can only think of misery, poor people, treachearous lazy idiots, third world, mixed people... That's the things that come to my mind.
I really can't stand them.
>>61405690
Nobody? Also, what percentage of Rollo's host was Danish? I've heard that the majority were Danes, but estimates weren't given.
>>61407269
How related to the Visigothic language is Catalan? Because i know that by the time of the muslim invasions the Visigoths spoke a very latinized language.
>>61408288
It's pretty close to Spanish.
Basque is the odd one out, it's not indo-european
>>61408288
Somewhat related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkYJYrYFVz8
The Gospel of Luke in Gothic.
>>61408165
Yeah, I can't relate to that. I only lived in Spain for a year, so I didn't really have the time or skill to form an opinion of my own, only like what I objectively heard.
I imagine you are right thought, that the northern dialects are more "european" than the southern and colonial dialects.
>>61408344
It depends what era the language is from as to how it sounds though.
Before the Visigoths converted to Catholicism, they were Arian and used Gothic instead of Latin as their church language. After they converted their language got heaps more latinized due to many factors like 99% of their populace speaking a latin vulgate, much like how frankish became french.
>>61408401
Indeed. I think the video is based on the Wulfila bible, so 4th century when the Goths were still in the Balkans.
>>61408288
Catalan developed with the Goths that created the Catalan counties for the Frankish Empire. (We did not have to be reconquered).
Not the same Visigoths that ruled Spain before the moors and later reconquered it.
What our Goths spoke is unclear, because the traces they left in Catalan are abnormally high (it does not make sense that they were already highly latinized)
We have a lot of words of Germanic origin. A few ones:
Ganivet (Knife)
Blau (blue). This one is rather common. It's in Italian too I think.
Fang (mud). Like in Dutch veen (peat)
Arran or Ran. (Next to, bordering). Like in German "rand".
Estona (a while). Like in Norwegian (and other scandi languages) "Stund".
There are a fuckton more. Could spend the day.
>>61408318
Please do not do that. It's closer to Italian, if we are gonna do weak comparisons.
Threads about Danish shit are always some of the most interesting in /int/ desu.
>>61408491
Thats the answer i was looking for thanks, because I've heard that Occitan dialects and Catalan are direct decendants of what the Latin-goths spoke while Castilian, Leonese and so forth are descendants of the Romano-Hispanian languages.
Just wondered if there was any merit to it, thanks :)
>>61407930
>Pijos are rich kids, right ?
Kinda, it's like snob or posh but a bit more generic. You can and will be called pijo by some for just for being from the middle class acceptable centric neighbourhood where people don't stab each other, you don't need to be rich.
>>61407998
Canarian is indeed sounds closer to latin american than peninsular dialects. Also a bit moorish imho (and I'm not memeing). Like >>61408165 said those southern accents are associated with poverty and vulgarity, but I disagree with him and I think there's a lot of poetry in the andalusian dialects. The accents are hot on girls too. But maybe I say this because I grew without contact with them (not so common in Catalonia) so they're pretty exotic to me.
>>61408288
Catalan is just a middle step in the ladder that separates spanish and french. In both countries there were more languages that formed that ladder creating a romance continuum, but occitan and aragonese are almost extinct.
It's indeed closer to spanish but spaniards from other regions more often than not are unable to follow and understand a conversation in catalan. Reading it is easier.
>>61408492
this ngl
Denmark seems pretty boring on the surface but it has a top notch history
>>61408492
Cheers leafbro.
You know, when I was about 12 one of my biggest dreams was to become a truckdriver in Canada, for some reason. The mountains and solitude appealed, I suppose
>>61408491
Sorry, forgot that triggers you guys, should have said that it's a romance language.
>>61408576
I saw a video about them and they sterotyped them as rich
>>61408576
Yeah, I found her (Fuerte Ventura) dialect incredibly appealing, but then again I knew no spanish when I met her, and there was a charm to the feminine voice speaking a more "soft" spanish, if you will.
I'm considering taking classes here again, since I never get to use spanish, and it's faded a bit. Maybe then I can form a proper, unbaised opinion on the dialects.
>>61408576
also, remind me, is this still right;
>tuca mi polla, perra
Something like "touch my dick", not sure if im spelling it right.
The first night I had in Madrid, my spanish friends made me say it to the bartender
>>61408612
t b h used to work on a truck here, its pretty neat.
>tfw you know what its like to drive 8 hours east/west and not even be 1/8th across Canada
its a wierd but also neat feel
>>61408651
Yeah, richer than the one using the word pijo. I may use the word for stereotypical posh boys but then be called pijo myself by someone from some poor peripherical neighbourhood.
I've even been called pijo for having a catalan accent, something uncommon in those neighbourhoods (it's still a stupid association of ideas).
Terms are relative.
>>61408612
My dad was a trucker. Think about trying to do it every now and then. I think being a European trucker might be more interesting though, with all the different countries and cultures.
>>61408606
Agreed.
>>61408737
Classic spanish banter.
Anyway, you got it mostly right, but it's toca. Tocame la polla would sound more natural and it's probably what they told you to say, but toca mi polla is technically correct.
I'm from Scotland, and I cannot recall learning much about the vikings in school, which seems strange given their historic influence on much of what is now Scotland.
>>61408743
yeah, that's what I mean.
People call Denmark "the country 2 hours from the sea", because no matter where you are here, you will never be less than to hours away from the ocean.
I want to experience vastness. I've made it my lifegoal to either drive from one end to the other of either Canada, Murica or Australia.
>>61408545
You're welcome m8 :)
Two more:
Brou (broth)
Guaitar (to watch)
There's a lot of work to do with Catalan. Most Catalans don't know about their origins, and they ignore the characteristics of their language (they tend to assume it's all from Latin).
We've also had some mediocre etymologists that slowed this research.
>>61408835
Ah, cheers mate.
The bartender looked fierce as first and responded with something in spanish, but when she found out I was foreign and being rused, she just laughed it off
>>61408918
East/West I'd do Canada
North/South I'd do USA
Not particularly interested in Australia for that sort of thing as it's hellishly hot inland, and there probably wouldn't be as much variety if you went around the coastline.
>>61408799
I think that's the difference, you know. I used to get a lot of american exchange students at my old place, and they were so fucking stoked that you could drive for a full day and pass through X amount of countries.
I want to do the opposite and drive for 2 weeks in the same country
>>61403642
from what i remember
>ah yes we had great monasteries n shiet with loads of gold and books
>vikings founded dublin
>longboats let them come inland
>those big towers i cant remember the name of
pretty much it
>>61409004
Yeah I reckon I want to do the East/West Canada thing. I've always had a hard on for Canada due to mountains and redwoods
>>61404106
>1066 Norman invasion
I wasn't taught anything about this in school. All I really learned about in history was:
- evil nazis
- congo civil war (all whitey's fault)
I'm not even joking. I also learned a little bit about Roman Britain and the Vikings, but not much.
>>61406144
the problem is america is half a continent, and just knowing the states is a challenge.
then again i know all the states and all the european countries so i dunno
guess its just that europeans dont have any reason to learn american states and therefore dont need to feel bad about it, while european countries are more important than states but americans dont learn more than that so they feel inadequate sometimes
who gives a shit tho i bet everyone on /int/ can name every yurocunt and every burger state
>>61408918
if you're in it for the nature, id say go Canada, if anything we got beautiful nature
>east coast is lots of rocky shores but green as fuck with north atlantic looking towns and cities
>quebec has dense forests and large rivers and marshes
>ontario is a nice mixture generally, with a fair few natural beauties you can find with some google searches
>manitobe/saskatchewans gonna be a tad boring, very midwesty with flatlands/plains
>alberta is similar in the west but then you hit the rockies
>BC is rockies plus probably the closest to tropical weather/flora you can get in canada
>>61409077
Oh, and the slave trade. Obviouly there was no mention of black slave traders. We just were told that evil whitey tricked random black people into kidnapping other black people for them.
>>61408947
>Barcelona
of course. Mad at madrid m8 xD
>>61409152
?
I'm talking about my language. When did I say anything about Madrid?
>>61409115
Muh dick.
Once in 10th grade, don't know your equivelant, but about age 15, I told my danish teacher that Denmark had boring nature.
She proceeded to march us all out on a muddy field with scarce forrest and a slight view of the ocean, and proclaimed it the best nature in the world. It was a fucking disgrace.
I don't hate my country, by any means at all, but to deny that we have boring nature is just plain stupid.
I want to see yours.
>>61409115
BC is fucking gorgeous, I love it here.
I can't believe english people don't learn about alfred. he alone held back a country wide invasion of england, and took it all back through force and mercy and bargain
he beat us fair and square. you should have statues of him
>>61409285
It does look nice, but I would be scared, even though it's unlikely, of getting attacked by a bear.
>>61409318
GIANT SNAILS
2-1
>>61403980
Norwegians built your capital city.
>>61409318
I have been camping and trecking in places like northern Norway and inner Transylvania, and I've had my camp ransacked by bears 3 times.
It IS fucking scary, mate, I can tell you that much.
They aren't as big as you would think, least not in Europe, but fuck me I nearly pissed my pants every time.
>>61409318
Never seen a bear in Tynehead, but I wouldn't be surprised if I did since there's a fish hatchery in the park. Lots of nice places to go for a hike through nature here, though.
>>61406780
No we weren't in a union yet. Why do Danes try to erase Norway from history? Do you get thaught this shit at school?
>>61409236
ya know what, imma bump with qt Canadian nature
a tabular iceberg passing close to the coast of Newfoundland, a common occurrence due to them being part of "iceberg alley," look it up
actually, check this link out, theres literally hundreds of these lmao
http://icebergfinder.com/
>>61409522
a fjord in Gros Morne National park, western Newfoundland
>>61409554
Moraine Lake, in the rockies
>>61409595
an example of how midwest Saskatchewan/Manitoba really is.
>>61409522
Everything about that looks like Greenland in the summer. even Architecture
>>61409595
gibsmedat
>>61409651
yeah lol, like i said, Atlantic Canada shares a lot in common with other North Atlantic nations, Greenland, Iceland, etc
pic related is St. John's, Newfoundland
>>61409692
Astonishing. I would not mind settling in a town like that. Absolutely beautiful.
How hard would it be to get a job in a place like that?
Not that I expect you to know every jobmarket in Canada, but you get my meaning.
>>61409734
Probably pretty difficult.
AFAIK the two major jobs in Newfoundland are fishing and oil. Not sure how well or in demand either are.
>>61407725
danes are protestants, fedoras or pagans you retard
>>61409734
honestly times are pretty tough in Atlantic Canada due to oil times, but it will bounce back to an extent
most of their economy comes from either fishing or offshore oil rigs
also did i tell you Newfoundland was 95% white, 4% native and 1% Asian? pretty homogenous, which works for them because they have like 1 or 2 homicides in the whole province per year, very peaceful
also pic related is a random Newfoundland baytown
>>61409800
I never said they weren't, there may be catholics too.
>>61409777
>>61409831
Yeah I figured it would be trade and oil.
Oh well, next live I suppose. But I will most certainly visit New Foundland before I die, and spend more than a few weeks there.
>>61410157
Paddy...
