Does anyone else feel bad for British youth after Brexit?
no, it's their own fault for not voting
>>61364413
Many voted. The problem is that young people don't expect anybody to suddenly fuck them over for empty slogans like sovereignty.
>>61364413
Voter turnout was about 70%.
>>61364413
gib rightful spanish clay
>>61364349
Brexit is good thing for them though
>>61364522
>good for them
>ok here is your freedom of not being able to move freely throughout Europe or to study in England only
>no foreigners or dirty cheap exchanges with other countries
>>61364349
>british youth
>>61364557
>or to study in England only
Nation states, as long as they're on friendly terms, have never stopped the flow of students and researchers. Most of the graduate students and postdocs in north america are foreigners.
>>61364557
Americans romanticize freedumb moves.
>>61364504
It was around 30% for 18-24 yo.
They are retarded.
>>61364504
Overall
18-25 was sub 40%
>It was dem old racists?
>Day tv said remain sure thing
>>61364557
You seem to forget that Britain's economy doesn't require leeching money off of the EU like your own.
>>61364349
overall brexit is a good thing but the youth will definitely be hurt most due to the uncertainty period and slow economy growth while UK businesses look for better ties in their new trade partners (probably anglosphere and commonwealth) which all happens as they graduate and look for their first job which is always the hardest to get
but really it would have been worse for the youth of tomorrow if the UK backed out when EU is federalising, that youth will now be graduating when UK is back on its feet with stronger long term partners and a much brighter future
>>61364492
>>61364504
like 30% of them voted
>>61364596
>>61364602
sauce?
>>61364349
Nope
Those Brit youths are complaining because the vote didn't turn out the way they wanted.
Tough shit
>>61364591
While it's true, we are talking about different scales here. Schengen was a blessing along with everything else EU provided. You could study almost as easily as natives. Turning your back on EU is pretty shitty for students.
>>61364615
Woah I haven't even said anything about economy that will lose out but price of freedom etc.
Even optimistic prognosis involving really good diplomacy and stable UK involve cutting down on useless things EU forced like worker rights or environmental protection just to lose only a bit of GDP for freedoms of not being able to blame foreigners for everything.
>>61364692
what about the ones who did vote to remain? you don't feel bad?
>>61364522
Actually believing everything /pol/ spits out.
The UK is STILL in the EU at this moment and it already sees damage to its economy . All this while under a government that allows the UK to go to shit . I wonder how will the people react when they realise that most of the so called "problems" they voted against were the fault of their own government and not the uk .
This was a vote against a potential future loss of sovereignty in favor of the EU ,if you think the current UK government will stop immigration or sharia groups inside the country then you should do some research about who's guilty of what
so at last the eternal anglo will cease to exist? ...
>>61364349
No, kek
Me.
Feel bad about 50% of Brits too.
>>61364743
Actually the economy is recovering now
It was a like a day where it just tanked but now it's on the up
Anyway fuck the EU why are euros so obsessed with America that they try to make Europe into America?
>>61364349
Man why is democracy so agist?
>>61364413
Yep. Only 40% turned out of 18-25.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnGh1nGrNGs
>>61364701
Only for foreign students though
Are you denying that the UK has most of the world renowned universities in Europe?
>>61364733
No
Because that's how a democracy works
>>61364874
Oh fuck, it was a Jewish plot.
>>61364701
You assume it's optimistic thinking that Britain will be doing only slightly worse after officially leaving the EU. Even if that is true, it will likely be only in the short term. Since Britain has left the EU, they now have a chance to make their own trade deals with countries outside the EU that could be better than the EU's own trade deals by a potentially large margin, since as it is, the EU's trade deals are garbage by most metrics. And if the EU does hold a grudge and doesn't give Britain a trade deal, that's their loss more than it is Britain's considering British exports to the EU only consist of 4% of its GDP (rounded up).
>>61364811
Idk, why are Murricans SO obsessed with EU and try to infiltrate Euro affairs ?
Anyway, Feel bad about UK leaving the EU.
>>61364849
>Are you denying that the UK has most of the world renowned universities in Europe?
No? That also means less talented people in UK from other countries unless Oxford qualifies as low skill Polish plumbers.
There is still greatly diminished ability to study in France or Germany.
>>61364349
>feel bad
fucking normies not even broken inside yet
>>61364811
>Actually the economy is recovering now
Except its not . you didn't hear shit cause the stock was closed but now it's falling again
>>61364916
>Means less talented people
Not really
America is not part of the EU and we get plenty of talented euros
Do you think the British are just gonna put a block on euros or something?
>>61364349
No, the ones that moan about lost opportunities abroad are the rich middle class lot. Now worried they will have to put some actual graft into something.
>>61364903
Wait what the fuck.
You can't make trade deals individually if you are in the EU? That's retarded.
>>61364915
I'm not obsessed I just think it's hilarious that you guys are trying to make America in Europe
>>61364962
And it'll bounce back because the British market isn't ridiculously dependent on EU
>>61364557
>Something that has been the case for literally the rest of the world except Europe
Yeah it sucks, but don't come and whine about it like it's the end of the fucking world.
Don't frequent /pol/ are they still in denial about the Brexit being a shit idea?
>>61364874
You can still feel bad that they were overruled by retards you retard. And what about the children who will be affected who couldn't vote.
>>61364620
TRUS NO ONE
NOT EVEN YOSELF
>>61364903
I don't assume it. The optimistic version include 0.5 - 1.5% loss of GDP by 2030 and that's assuming that guys running UK are doing their make Britain great again plan and not being fuck ups.
>>61364975
The problem is that Britain is just less attractive now, not whether it was or whether USA is. Apparently Europeans will have to pay trice as much to study there without EU deals. It's not just gonna make people go there anyway. They will opt for America or other EU countries instead.
>>61365015
You're a little obsessed though, I mean maybe not you, but your gov, yes.
Well, you can (easily) take control of england now.
>>61364581
qt's to the left of the bald guy.
>>61365024
>Don't frequent /pol/ are they still in denial about the Brexit being a shit idea?
It's mostly laughing at the blubbering and in denial remain lefties
Like this one
https://youtu.be/Ia4UXNq0RLk
>>61365097
those are children. i'm calling obama
>>61365077
What? You know the current adminstration is anti Brexit right?
>>61365015
>the British market isn't ridiculously dependent on EU
I think you should look more into that statement...
>>61365120
They're always laughing about lefties, but are they really still thinking the Brexit is a good idea? Because if yes, it's just emberassing at this point. Not even the leaders of leave like Boris Johnson supported it because they thought it was a good idea.
>>61365075
Where do you get your numbers that the British economy will undergo negative growth for the next 14 years?
>>61365029
Feel free to cry about it, faggot
>>61365210
Oh yeah they do
That's because pol despises the EU
Why wouldn't they? It's like the opposite of most things they stand for
They are laughing about farages backpedaling though
>>61365211
It's Open Europe comparison of growth on Stay and Remain. They are the most optimistic leave prognosis that isn't a joke. It's % loss compared to stay.
Gaining on the situation seems pretty unreasonable.
This is who you feel sorry for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li7wNTkL-dY
>>61365194
You know what let's shelf this and then in a year time see how the British economy is doing
If it's third world tier you were right the eu was the only reason the UK was a successful nation
>>61365138
Yeah, NSA still spying us though (and, hum, you).
But relax, they're just watching.
>>61365297
Children do stupid things all the time, you would still save them from real self-harm.
>>61365077
I mean, the government is trying to negotiate TTIP, and stuff like this throws a wrench in that. The US government definitely watches out for its own businesses, so something like this that affects our banks, stock exchanges and corporations and which will probably require another free trade deal obviously concerns the US.
>>61365350
Did you actually watch it? She's got no idea. This is who voted out
But at least now she can have nice eggs I guess
>>61365297
I'm sure this kind of trash just don't exist in heavenStraya
most of them are reddit and sjw cucks so no lol
>>61365350
Trust this guy, Germs know everything about self-harm.
>>61365393
Mmm they are forced to vote here too. Its a bit grim
>>61365286
You're talking about 14 years after deciding the EU (12 after actually leaving it). I don't think you can make an accurate estimate about where the British economy will be then considering they have to completely restructure how their economy interacts with the international community. It could go extremely wrong on levels no one expected, but for Britain to mess up something so simple, like making trade deals, would be unprecedented.
Considering the current situation, the EU doesn't have the upper hand and I wouldn't be surprised to see their collective economy undergo negative growth considering the eurozone is failing and the EU just lost one of its major producers.
>>61365360
Yes, this.
Thanks for your uninhibited analyse.
>>61365297
she seems pretty australian to me
No they shot themselves in the foot.
Only 30% of young people voted and they lost by about 4%.
Honestly if you don't expect the old people to come out in droves no matter what weather or if they have to be carried there to vote then you're retarded.
It seems to be almost a universal thing that the second you become old you become fanatical about voting.
Gay marriage was a huge divide between the young and the old, the old lost because the youth came out in large numbers to vote.
People from flying home from places like straya to vote for gay marriage.
>>61365425
Actually I know what you think, lad.
I love Brexit just because of how much it pissed off so many people
The media is mad, the current government is mad, sjw antifa cucks are mad
Like what isnt to like about it?
>>61365477
Isn't your mum mad about it?
>>61365464
Enlighten me then please.
I actually hate being forced to vote. Been fined for not voting heaps of times
>>61365439
They are predictions but you can't call them predictions and ignore then post your predictions.
Most of those are actually pretty in-depth, but the Open Europe particularly feels like the article maker is in charge and is mostly titled as what UK SHOULD do after Brexit. And yes politicians can fuck everything.
>>61364349
Why? They should be grateful.
EU is a mess and should be disbanded as soon as possible. If you are there and don't realize it, I'm sorry for your fool soul.
>>61365500
No I don't even think my mom knows exactly what the eu is desu
I don't think she cares either
>>61364349
No its their own fault for not fucking voting, considering their remain lean if like 5% more turned out they could have remained.
The EU is anti-democratic and should die as soon as possible, desu
>>61365477
This, it is fun to see the hypocrites coming out of the wood work.
>FUCKING OLD FAGGOTS THEY ARE DEAD SOON AND RUINED OUR COUNTRY, FUCIKING SEXIST RACIST WHITE SUPREMEISTS, DEMORCRACY IS FUCKING BROKEN.
>Did you vote?
>Nah mate it was raining and shit
Even here in Ireland people are saying it is the end of the world even though it will hurt us in the short term but if Britain leaves we will become the English speaking gateway to Europe, making us more attractive for business.
>>61365297
This is the new smear campaign I've seen and I fucking love it
"The referendum doesn't count because this stupid person voted wrong"
God damn I love politics
>>61365525
I just want to know where you get your predictions, why you call them optimistic when they clearly aren't.
>>61365570
This being said I am happy with the result because it means this bloated Yugoslavia might dissolve before it becomes violently dissolved.
>>61365598
That one is from Open Europe
Just google it you fucker
http://openeurope.org.uk/
>>61365297
>>61365387
Nobody is saying we should feel sorry for her. She, presumably, voted Leave. It's the kids who wanted to Remain that you might feel sorry for.
>>61365513
>Enlighten me then please
Oh my young fellow, You're right.
Voting is exhausting. No matter if bazillions people died for you can just make the simple act of vote.
You're right it's too difficult. You should better dishonnored your own ancestors, by just leave your fat ass on your sofa.
>>61365667
Okay thank you. When you were referring to Open Europe I didn't know you were referring to a website rather than the concept.
>>61365307
>You know what let's shelf this and then in a year time see how the British economy is doing
>If it's third world tier you were right the eu was the only reason the UK was a successful nation
Why the fuck are you acting like a progressive cunt for ? did i say anything about britain becoming a third world country ? Did I say anything about the eu being the reason the uk is successful ?
It will affect britain's economy and bring down the living standards...and for the youth , WHICH ARE ALREADY USED TO CERTAIN LIVING STANDARDS , it's going to be a blow
Regarding it being dependent on the EU , that doesn't mean it can't change...but at the same time it also doesn't fucking mean it will happen without an economic impact ...way to strawman me asshole
>>61365687
bien joué
>>61364349
>Youth unemployment in France, Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal, eastern Europe, future EU candidates
Nah, the UK got lucky
>>61365597
The truth is the the powers that be are just moving more into having an Angloshere as opposed to a EU based power structure for Britain. Its possibly a good thing. But the real problem is that with shit like the TPP we lose so much more than we gain. America is basically a shit trading partner atm you don't want what we have and we don't watch much of what you have. China is where its and and probably soon India. Where as the TPP aims to make piracy illegal and that would affect most young Australians and recommercialise entertainment by making you either have to pay for it or watch ads again. The fact is that most young Aussies don't watch TV and that's a good thing. For people like me who wouldn't pay for it piracy is a harmless crime because the producers lose nothing. Basically just a massive clusterfuck. Hope we don't opt in because we gain nothing and would lose our modern way of life.
>>61365687
I just don't believe in the political system man. Its a meme. I don't mind voting atm because we have a strong Independent that I like. But when its voting for either of the major two partys its just a joke. If I didn't have my independent this election I would still vote labour because then we don't have to waste millions on a plebisite to legalise gay marriage but its usually just a waste off effort and if you don't believe in it its annoying to be forced into participating.
>>61365724
>Bring down the living standards
Youre right the UK is just going to be a shithole country
Wait are you saying it's not going to be? Then what's the problem?
I'm saying that the UK isn't going to become a shithole just because it isn't part European cuck states
Yeah it's gonna take a hit in the short term but the uk is such an economic and geopolitical powerhouse that it's going to be fine
>>61365750
Merci, mais bon j'ai bien l'impression que ça n'as pas vraiment marché
>>61365800
>>61365807
>the uk is such an economic and geopolitical powerhouse
But the EU is more powerful than the UK by almost any measure.
No amount of bluster is going to get the UK access to EU financial markets the same way they have now, and that's going to take a sledgehammer to the City.
no because they didn't vote
now they can reap what they sow
they have no right to fucking whine about democracy when they don't take part in it
i hope they like the future of their country being decided by people who will be dead in 15 years
>>61364349
>>61365950
The uk is in a much more strategic position than all of Europe
But you are right
A single American state is not stronger than the whole of the USA
>>61366049
don't let texans hear you
you KNOW how they can get..
>>61366141
Saying that though does Europe really want to become America?
>>61364581
>>61364349
quintessentially
british youh
>>61364349
Fuck them
>>61366141
Nice strawman
>>61365667
I'm assuming you're talking about this article, so if I'm wrong, forgive me
http://openeurope.org.uk/intelligence/britain-and-the-eu/what-if-there-were-a-brexit/
What that site predicts will happen to the British economy after Britain leaves the EU is essentially nothing. It says that the likely place the British GDP will be in 2030 is between -0.8% and +0.6%. That could happen if there was never even a referendum in the first place.
>>61366141
Texas is literally none of those. Was this in response to something the state government did?
>>61366272
Those estimates are based on different assumptions. Any kind of positive growth assumes that the UK would be granted access to the EEA or something equivalent, like the Swiss model; all of which currently require free movement of labor. And those models assume a swift negotiation with minimal uncertainty.
If that's politically feasible, sure, everything will be fine and dandy, because little wll have actually changed.
>>61365950
They were only powerful with us, France and Germany alone cannot subsidise the entire EU.
Our prospects are bad for the near future, but will eventually turn up.
There is no such silver-lining for the EU.
>>61364349
>Brits
>youth
A double reason to say no. We have to deal with the shit our elders left us, they will feel the same.
>>61367814
>France and Germany alone cannot subsidise the entire EU.
Thankfully they're not the only rich country. I expect a tax raise soon though, like 52% wasn't enough.
>>61368009
only 17 million people over there lad, not sure if that will be enough. you don't take much out of eu but your contributions aren't massive either, at least comparatively.
>>61366366
Liberals just want to act like champions of the people even thpugh citys and statesvunder liberal control suck for the people.
>>61368068
>UK stops putting in 10000 millions in the EU pot
>UK companies, service providers, products, inmigrants, etc are left out of business in Europe.
>Some other companies will expand/be created to take the UK part of the euro cake
I take the deal.
Not sure what, say f.i, Vodafone execs and workers with presence in many Euro countries think about their company shrinking and decapitalising by 50%.
But hey. Sounds promising.
>>61366245
this
>>61364349
I feel happy for them.
They have their country back.
I'm
>British youth
I voted Leave.
>>61365015
>And it'll bounce back because the British market isn't ridiculously dependent on EU
Half of imports and half of exports for the UK are from EU.
Most investments in the UK are using it as a gateway to the EU, and will now seize.
>>61366530
Which is fucking generous assumption considering the agreement was friendly, same as Norway (under which EFTA countries are nonetheless required to follow EU normatives plus also pay moneys while not having a say nor a seat in EU decissions regarding anything at all) The Swiss didn't spit and rant the EU though. The UK on the contrary went looking for a fight. And will get its fight.
The ironic thing is that the Brexit guys haven't even yet tell Europe their leaving, even though the EU and basically all Presidents and ministers are urging them to do it now and leave asap.
What's up, then?? We're opening the doors wide open, what's taking you so long to leave at once, Farage?
>>61364557
brb going to study at university of polish loo cleaning technology
>>61364349
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3575/How-Britain-voted-in-2015.aspx
Youth don't turn up for normal elections too, does that invalidate the results of those? It's over, it happened.
>>61371653
Which means all foreign investment in UK will move to Ireland or Scotland whenthey vote Leave the UK.
>>61364557
There exist student visa, worker visa, tourist visa, etc. Having a nation state does not trap you in your country.
>>61364349
I feel bad for the ones who voted Remain
I don't feel bad for the dumbasses who didn't vote.
But I can't stop laughing at the politically conscious preachy 17 year olds who couldn't even vote if they wanted.
I mean fuck: they probably know more about politics in general than your average voter(or think they do anyways), and they couldn't even make the decision on THEIR future. KEK
>>61371687
you cant even change your own lightbulb dumb chav
>>61364701
>You could study almost as easily as natives.
UK has shitty language teaching, even for posh boys at public schools. Because of the University fees they more or less have a vested interest in keeping smart kids shit at languages and getting in debt to the tune of 9k+ a year.
ERASMUS is also a bit of a shit show here. I wanted to go on an exchange as a STEM student at a top uni and was told p much that I shouldn't bother. So I worked hard to get grades and improve language skills on the side. Was still blocked more or less from applying in the end, was told that nobody was doing it anyway, then it turned out that some public school lads were going who could barely speak the language. And they just stuck to the ex pat bits and went skiing a lot. Brit culture tends not to always gel well with the principles of European exchange imo
>>61364557
It is good for them. The whole union should break up anyways.
>>61365297
>trusting these "people" with a responsible decision
>>61364349
It'll be good for them long term. Of course the EU funded companies pulled all their money out of Britain, what else would you expect?
>>61371768
i'll pay Norbert to do it for a fiver
>>61371653
The financial services balance the trade deficit, but they appear to be moving for the reasons you say. Without them the UK is a net importer by a large margin, and it's for shit like food.
The funny bit is how the finance sector was to be like the big negotiation chip, but it's actually fucked off of its own volition leaving the UK in the lurch. A few people were asking "if we leave what's the EU going to do about the 11 billion we won't be paying them anymore?" And it turns out the 11 billion has grown legs and walked off anyway.
>>61364962
What would you know about having a good economy, Mr. Romanian?
The only people who I feel bad for are the people living in countries still in the EU (well, technically we still are but you know what I mean)
After seeing that it is actually possible to vote leave against the odds there are people all across Europe crying out for a referendum but their politicians are like "NO, YOU WILL LIKE THE EU, YOU WILL OBEY"
Honestly I think every EU country should have a referendum now, even if they're a very EU friendly nation, they should all still have one.
>>61371897
And what exactly is it funding except the multiculti shithole that is London? I live in a similar "financial centre" where nobody seems to be doing anything and you rarely see a white face.
>>61366272
That page does seem to make a pretty strong assumption that the UK would open up for more free trade than it was the case in EU (which was already pretty fucking free).
That sounds pretty unlikely to be honest. I'm guessing what will happen is that rich people and farmers will lobby for a more protectionist trade arrangement that will make them richer at the cost of the average consumer, because that's what fucking happens when the commission doesn't hound a government. The nations constantly try to backstab each other with protectionism.
>>61365800
Honestly if we're having an Anglosphere treaty keep the Yanks and Canadians out of it. We gained literally nothing from dealing with Canucks in the TPP.
Australia and New Zealand have pretty similar goals and financial interests so it makes sense that we tag team a trilateral agreement with the UK.
>>61364996
The UK was at the whim of the other member states and their interests, especially the big one Germany who wanted to get the best for the likes of their car market.
>>61371653
The EU usually doesn't have that high tariffs, and the countries that EU doesn't like are the ones that fail basic worker's right and stuff like that (because fuck trying to compete with a country that treats its labor force like slaves). It's also plain not in the interest of the EU to fuck UK's economy.
The only problem is the WTO's most favored rule, so the UK sort of have to strike a regional trade agreement with the EU to avoid this rule from triggered. Which ironically would likely put UK back to square one, except now they can feel "more sovereign" I guess?
>>61364996
That's not retarded at all. It prevents other blocks from playing one country against the other.
>>61364557
Countries outside of the EU are prospering, Europe is literally the only continent that isn't growing at all.
UK'll be better off dealing with countries that actually have a future.
>>61367814
The subsidies are just beginning to pay off in form of better trade and infrastructure. But on the bright side, you can now buy all the mayo you want from overseas.
>>61372055
Did the EU stop the UK from making deals with China, Japan or India? I genuinely don't know.
>>61372055
>Europe is literally the only continent that isn't growing at all.
Being in the EU or not doesn't seem to be a factor here.
>>61372080
Depends what you mean by deal. But yeah, member-states can't sign trade agreements on their own.
>>61365029
Clearly we should only let toddlers vote since they are the ones most effected by the outcome of all issues.
Has it occurred to you there is a reason society as a whole tends not to allow people who aren't mature to make decisions for themselves let alone others.
>>61371933
>I live in a similar "financial centre"
No you don't. Unless Wall Street has moved to Canada now.
It doesn't matter whether you like the culture or not, the financial services sector was still an industry bringing in export monies. It might make it simpler for you if you pretend it's a car manufacturer or something that sold to most of Europe. Those pretend car factories are all closing down and moving to factories in the EU, vastly changing how much the country is exporting, meaning less money is coming in and on the whole lots of money is going out. The EU may have relied on the UK for pretend cars a week or so ago and would have done at to keep getting those pretend cars, but now we don't make pretend cars anymore so who cares?
As for what it funds, big business was a massive tax boon. Nearly everyone in this country was a net drain on society, it paid for schools, hospitals, roads and so on p much.
>>61364349
No. For one thing they barely voted and for another thing their parents and grandparents stopped them from continuing to shoot themselves in the leg.
>>61372105
KEK, what the fuck
OK, I'm starting to understand pro-Brexiters a lot more now.
>>61372080
UK could only make trade deals with those countries if the rest of the EU agreed to it.
That's the 'sovereignty' they were always banging on about.
>>61372081
Why restrict yourself to trading within a stagnant trade bloc then?
>>61372080
>Did the EU stop the UK from making deals with China, Japan or India?
Yes. You can't make trade deals on your own, that was one of the reasons to vote out for the people who wanted to.
>>61372105
There's a good reason why the EU hasn't been striking deals with those countries though.
In the EU, companies have to follow certain rules regarding worker's rights, emissions, safety standards, etc. This costs money.
If you completely open your markets to countries that have more lax rules, they have a competitive edge, meaning your national production would suffer.
The EU obviously can't back off from the worker's rights that have accumulated through democratic process, so the only viable solution is to limit trade with countries that don't obey the same rules.
>>61372120
but what about borrowing money
borrowing money is free
now you can borrow from China and whatnot
>>61365029
>You can still feel bad that they were overruled by retards you retard. And what about the children who will be affected who couldn't vote.
Hi, welcome to democracy since forever. You lost, get over it.
>>61364349
Nope, Brit cucks can apply themselves.
>Scotland leaving
>Ireland reunited leaving
>Gibraltar leaving
>Pound leaving
>London leaving
Guess it's the united Caliphate now. They deserve it, the uneducated, unintelligent, demagogue propaganda believing country hicks and retroNostalgia old fags.
>B-but less immigration
You mean more? Calais, boats, the commonwealth being SO WHITE it HURTS.
Poo on Loo Ahmed.
>We'll have trading pacts yet!
You mean with Russia, who doesn't care, and will extort you? You mean the US with potentially Trump, and they still don't care about you? Or China, who could just buy you up and turn you into Euchina? Or maybe some Arabic Sheiks with their oil?
Guess Britain's a got a bright future up ahead of them, on the sun, drying up, starving and being turned into a Caliphate.
Glorious day to hang out with France and Germany, lads.
>listening to young people
The cunts barely have any life experience as it is, let alone life experience in the real world without the help of their parents. They've got idealistic views of multiculturalism that they've learnt from university with their different coloured friends.
>>61372198
>Why restrict yourself to trading within a stagnant trade bloc then?
This. I genuinely don't see any reason to this other than Germany and France's own protectionist desires
>>61372205
Well that's fair enough, then. Mind you the anti-immigration voters are going to be furious when it backfires and your Polish immigrants are replaced by Koreans and Bangladeshis.
No, British youth are fucking shit
t. British Youth
>>61372055
>UK will be better off dealing with those asian and african counties in dark green growing fast.
I say, go for it Big Dave. C'mon communicate your leaving to the EU asap. We're still waiting to hear it.
all these butt blasted euros
>It's the "muh young" meme again
Fuck off with this shit.
Reminder that everyone shilling for the EU in these threads is a part of it
>>61364692
>>61364620
only people between something like 25 to retirement age in a country should be able to vote
>>61372300
Technically, you are shitposting and defending it too, because:
- The google search for "what is the eu", and "why are we voting for leaving in britbongland" have surged 900% by friday morning, from the Brits.
Anyone inside knows it works better than going solo and getting fucked by "geopolitics". That is, anyone inside with a brain... or not being a britcuck.
>>61372196
>>61372198
>Why restrict yourself to trading within a stagnant trade bloc then?
You don't. But you let the EU negotiate with the other blocks on your behalf (because you'll probably be able to get a better deal)
>>61372358
What would be the incentive for the EU to negotiate on your behalf unless there's something in it for them?
What is there to feel bad about? People are acting like they're in North Korea now, it's ridiculous. They can still travel, work or go to school in another country, and do everything they could before. Just now it might require the tiniest bit of effort the way it does pretty much everywhere else outside of Europe, it's not a big deal.
>>61372358
>But you let the EU negotiate with the other blocks on your behalf (because you'll probably be able to get a better deal)
Yeah, sure.
>>61372383
The EU is nothing more than all its member-states, who all have interest in trading.
>>61372236
>Brit cucks
>Guess it's the united Caliphate now
>Poo on Loo Ahmed.
>drying up, starving and being turned into a Caliphate.
This is young people, ladies and gentlemen.
>>61372225
The strong pound was a source of national pride, albeit weird national pride. Like people here like to think we balance the books really well and that's why we can import stuff cheaply just like when we had an empire etc etc.
Americans have much more of a can do attitude, so a weak dollar just makes them go "yeehaw I'm gonna build me a factory or a ranch and export like shit". Like in 10 or 20 years time I'm sure everything will be fairly fine and dandy but right now English culture does not suit the changes in circumstance that are happening. Everyone here has to finally get over "muh empire muh ruling the waves" and acting like they believe they're royalty or something.
>>61372264
Dave can't. He fucked off to buy his country time. Now a big stalling process begin while British politicians scramble to make backdoor deals to replace all the trade agreements that will be torn when they leave the EU. They need the EU until they can secure said deals.
>>61372045
The UK will be made into an example, so that others don't follow. This bad treatment will also help Scotland and Ireland make their own exit, and rejoin the EU.
You will get harsh terms and will pay tax on imports.
>>61364874
Reminder that race played the bigger factor here, not age.
Younger Brits are less white.
>>61372398
Try negotiatng a deal saying US standards should change to get closer to British ones, and see how you're received.
>>61372358
>because you'll probably be able to get a better deal
How so, exactly? Outside of the EU you're free to go all-out against your neighbors while inside the bloc you have to play nice and make sure that nobody gets stepped on.
>>61372421
>implying i'm a millenial or young
Guess again, Abdullah.
>>61372456
See above: trade deals this day are mostly about standard alignments. If the EU says "change your standards to get them closer to ours" it has a much bigger chance to succeed than if it's just the UK saying that.
>>61372456
Bigger economy and more resources to negotiate.
Just think of the countries like your states. Would New York do well to secede from the Union for better trade deals that fuck over the other states?
>>61372498
Grow up.
>>61372348
>The google search for "what is the eu", and "why are we voting for leaving in britbongland" have surged 900% by friday morning, from the Brits
Right, and who would be more likely to be on Google searching that: Younger people that leaned Remain, or older Leaver supporters?
>>61372434
Nobody in the EU will want to make an example of the UK (more than what is avoidable because of WTO rules anyway, because if the UK breaks of from EU, they are no longer part of the EU regional block).
"Punishing" people economically basically means "I'm going to punch myself in the face and you'll feel it too but I think I can take a hit while you can't". In the case of the UK though, the EU has literally zero interest in crashing UK's economy.
There's also the political consequences of a harsh punishment. It would probably just fuel eurosceptism.
>>61372547
>Nobody in the EU will want to make an example of the UK
.ô/
We do.
>>61372540
>>61372538
Those who didn't expect that serious POUNDING they got. That's who. Both groups.
>>61372538
You first, eternal summer.
>>61372540
Older people tend to Google like they're talking to someone tho.
>>61364349
No, the most important point for most young brits was muh traveling
>>61372523
And standard alignments are important. If the UK industries have to 8 hour work days while "third country X" have 16 hour workdays, whose industry will benefit more from open trade? A careless trade agreement might accidentally crash a local industry.
>>61371933
>this post
What the FUCK has a financial centre got to do with race? And if you think Toronto is in anyway close to London as a financial hub you are delusional.
>>61372547
>Nobody in the EU will want to make an example of the UK
Are you kidding? They're going to do everything in their power to make the UK crash and burn as a way to head off other exit campaigns.
>>61372547
>>61372563
color me fancy and call me Nancy, you can't be this naive.
The EU will make an example out of the UK, and that will quench the eurosceptism thirst, not the other way around. If Merkelania or Merkel start hugboxing britbongland, that's when every country will rise and want to leave. Because if we can't stand up for our own values, then why the fuck are we still a part of a dysfunctional, almost non-transparent, undemocratic, centralized institute system, that provides nothing else?
>>61372605
No they fucking won't you silly tart.
>>61372540
Yeah, couldn't it just as likely be the remain crowd researching exactly what it is they just left? Or the Brits that didn't vote one way or the other wondering how this effects them?
Hey at least they'll put in 350 million pounds in their health ca- oh wait.
>>61372547
The EU has the leverage right now to punish UK severely.
It would be another case if the UK had already prepared a bunch of different trade agreements and back-ups ready to launch as soon as they left.
>>61364492
>>61372236
Why are Poles and Hungarians such EUnuchs?
Oh, right, they're two of the three biggest leech nations of Union financial assistance.
No.
>>61364522
this.
t. British Youth Leaver
>>61372656
"Leech", right.
I know my country is cancer, but i am not my own country. I could be shitposting from somewhere else, if that's good for you.
>>61364413
This, dickheads
>>61372605
>>61372630
You are 100% wrong. Germans are goody two shoes who mostly care about profit. If they decide they could really hit UK hard, but they won't because it would create instability and they would lose money as well.
Germans will consider economy and profit more important than some EU bs.
>>61372647
it's not very dissimilar here with the doctors in some cities, but not the nurses afaik
>>61372540
>older people remember the politicians who were around in their lifetime
Shocking
It is pretty disgraceful for any young Brit to not know who Churchill was though, although I must admit I don't know what the Domesday Book is.
>>61372647
The UK can choose if they so wish to let in Europeans to work in the NHS if they're needed.
>>61372656
I'd like to see France have a referendum, see what the result would be as of now.
>>61372716
The cool thing is that at least now you can only bring in qualified migrants like we do.
>>61372540
That pic related is dumb. D Cameron has had one of the most prestigious educations you can get in the UK, is presumably of an age where they'd say he's smart, remembers a handful of piddling little factoids that he keeps trotting out but can't even take a stab at translating Magna Carta
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C9XsYxoZvqI
>>61365360
fuck TTIP
>>61372749
So finally the toilet cleaning Poles with degrees can become the leaders of industry and business, and the Anglos relegated to cleaning their own toilets?
>>61372806
Hey, if the immigrants are more qualified and better adept at working than the locals, it's the locals' own fault.
That's textbook colonialism, old chap. Never thought I'd see the day where a Brit was averse to the idea of a foreigner outdoing the locals.
>>61372806
It will be weird for Brits to have to become engineers themselves. Right now it seems that all their technical staff are foreign, while the Brits are in business development, project management and so on.
>>61372864
Small businesses were split, with many thinking leaving the EU will be beneficial to them. The bigger the business the more they're happy with the status quo obviously and wanted to remain.
They have a better chance of getting entry level employment now.
Immigrants/refugees are exploited by business owners as cheap uneducated labour.
They hesitate hiring native youth because they know they are usually smarter, and can fuck with them via unions, employment law, etc
Immigrants keep their heads down, they're just happy to have regular pay in a relatively safe country. It's better to help them from a distance, actually building their own society from the base.
>>61372979
How small are we talking about? Because I don't think the opinion of shopkeeper or restaurant owners is really relevant to determine whether it will be good or bad for Britain in the international trade market
>>61373012
The people a Brexit ought to keep out are Polish university graduates (who are as smart and whose country is as safe as Britain), not paki peasants.
>>61372857
>>61372864
I think it'll do the culture here some good eventually, but they won't like it. And Anglos have a bit of a tendency to shit the bed (like make trouble for everyone at their own expense) when things don't go their way. The best way I can think to describe the worst part of the culture here is people think having a monarchy makes them royalty, and that attitude's become more and more extreme in the last couple of years. When they realise they actually have to do shit themselves there's going to he a lot of crying.
>>61364522
fuck off u prick
>>61372979
Smaller businesses don't deal with more complicated financial instruments to hedge and have a worse idea of how the market works at this level. It seemed more to me like the more financially naïve businesses wanted to leave, they just happened to be smaller in general.
>>61364349
No, fuck those globalist cunts. June 23 best day of my life.
>>61373091
A large chunk of them voted to keep the Muslims out though.
>>61373091
Paki peasants should be in Pakistan engaging in their own class struggles. Or else Pakistan will just remain a corrupt dysfunctional shithole.
>>61373099
Merkel stop using 4chan to vent.
>>61373171
>>61373170
Britain being in the EU or not has no impact on how many pakis come (if anything there will be more, to replace the poles)
>>61373218
I'm confused. Why does the Brits seem to think Pakistan is part of EU?
>>61373238
Because the EU symbolises everything bad that happened to the UK these last 30 years.
>>61373218
You think the average Brexit retard can distinguish a Paki from a Libyan or Syrian?
>>61372444
Younger Brits are also more likely to be brainwashed into thinking it was all about race.
The North of England is like an apocalyptic wasteland - of course all the British working class don't give a fuck about crashing an economy which has discarded them.
They can't even afford to keep living in their shitty small miserable house at the wages an EU migrant will work for.
>>61373238
They've mixed up Syrian and other refugees with all muslims and brown people. It's like how the US citizens mixes up Iraq and Afghanistan after 9 11
>>61373238
The vote was to leave the EU and stop the EU forcing a ton of the 'refugees' onto the UK.
>>61371672
There's no reason to pull out so suddenly. As it is, Britain is in a transitional period right now since they have to get a new PM because the current one backed a side contrary to the people. Once that's done and the hype from the referendum has died down, it will be a more than an apt time to trigger Article 50.
>>61364874
Hindus are smelly rapists. Sikhs, of course, are bro-tier.
>>61372547
This
>>61373309
Well, except that the refugee quotas plan was scrapped weeks before the vote
>>61373218
People from Pakistan make up a relatively small number.
>>61372547
Pretty much this.
>>61373422
What is this map about? If it is foreign nationalities in the UK then it's false.
>>61373410
Was still one of the main reasons why people wanted to leave the EU. Immigration on a whole, The refugee thing pushed a lot of people too far it seems.
>>61373422
>that China
also thought there were more Italians there, I wonder where confused 19 years old will go to wash dishes for one year now that they'll need a passport for the UK.
>>61373422
wtf is that map showing?
>>61373422
>3rd India
>4th Australia
>fuck immigration
>we must leave the EU and resurrect the Commonwealth
Brexiters are so fucking stupid honestly
>>61373486
>>61373472
I have a hard time figuring out why they would favour Muslim immigration from Asia over European immigration, that's all
>>61373466
Figures from the ONS on the last country of residence for migrants coming to the UK.
>>61373508
Huh? That map is nonsense. It could be showing emigration instead of immigration.
>>61372630
Only 4% of Britain's GDP relies on trade with the EU. Even if the EU put embargos on the UK harder than Russia, the effect would be minute at best. The only thing you'd notice would be more Japanese and American cars on the street.
>>61373486
I would bet Ireland in a few years or Switzerland.
>>61364349
Only in the same sense as I feel bad for the entire country, having been guided into an act of self-harm by a Conservative government that has been utterly incapable of getting its shit in order.
And before anyone drags in any nonsense about liberals versus conservatives, yes it was the fault of the Conservative party. Dave was the one who set us up for a vote on Brexit to appease the alt-cons in his own party to try and consolidate his own coalition, and the Conservative PM and his alt-con rival became the inevitable centers of both arguments. There was some Labour voice to be heard, but it primarily boiled down to Conservatives on both sides gradually stepping up ugly and increasingly nonsensical rhetoric. It was a shitfest from start to finish: yes, it was "democratic" in the sense that there was a vote at the end of it, but the process that got us there wasn't the kind of democratic process that Western democracies rely on to reach the best, most well-informed outcomes. And you can't have that kind of process when both sides ARE the ruling party, or when the electorate has been wildly misinformed by both sides.
You may as well have had BoJo and Dave mud-wrestle over it for all the "democratic process" really mattered. At least that would've been entertaining.
>>61373562
Per year? Per month? You have no idea what you just posted.
>>61373486
>>61373492
From here I believe.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11622718/Immigration-nation-where-are-the-Britains-migrants-coming-from-and-why.html
>>61364413
Hi gibraltar it's time to pay taxes
>>61373587
>>61373598
For the year 2013.
>>61373532
I'm not sure how people got the idea that they are choosing muslim immigration over european immigration. It's currently the people who voted leave want no immigration besides the people they deem beneficial to the country. A point system akin to Australia. And having a useful skill will be more likely to get you a visa as opposed to working retail.
>>61373598
> "last countries of residences" for migrants coming to Britain in 2013.
That's not very meaningful. An Afghani living in France would count among those who lived in France.
>>61373532
Because they're fucking stupid.
I think as well a lot of the irrational racist hate here also focuses on multilingualism as well as just skin colour. So having a vast area where they negotiate without necessarily using English rubs people up the wrong way.
Unironically moving to South Africa, desu.
>>61373568
nah those are already destinations of srs people who hate fun and do nothing but self hate.
they don't have the same magnetism of London.
>>61373655
>An Afghani living in France would count among those who lived in France.
Exactly. Good to get out of the EU.
>>61373674
I suspect Dublin or Edinburgh (in the summer at least) might become the new London depending on how things go. I can't imagine Frankfurt that way.
>>61373679
Britain is able to bar that Afghan from crossing the channel with or without the EU
The fun part will be when Wales (who voted out despite receiving massive subsidies from the EU) will realise that they will get fucked by London and that the money is just gone.
>>61373524
>Bedford
>>61373750
So the chance of a significant number of those coming from France won't be Afghan then, and instead will be French nationals coming to work or study. There's a good 400k French-born people at least working in London alone.
> Entry clearance visas granted (excluding visitor and transit visas) to the UK, top 10 countries, year ending June 2015
>Saudi Arabia
I bet a lot of those are Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/migrationstatisticsquarterlyreport/2015-08-27
>>61373486
I literally never see Chinese people unless I'm in a Chinese restaurant so idk where they all are.
