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will eurozone collapse?
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EU more like KEK
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Hopefully. France and Holland is next.
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>>61322633
already
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>>61322679
This.
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>>61322633
That depends a lot on what exactly happens with the UK in the near future, but right now I'd say no.
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>>61322633
no only brits lose

youll see
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>>61322633
Fuck the EU
British is Right.
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>>61322780
This. We jumped ship, it'll wake Brussels up and theyll reform so the EU is better and we're the only cunst daft enough to leave
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thanks for your insightful input chinkies. we really appreciate and value it
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>>61322633
No, it will reform. They are talking about a new EU treaty.

>less involvement in national affairs
>a stronger foreign policy (military, migration, trade)
If anything, they are going to speed things up to make it more effective.
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>>61322633
yes thankfully
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>>61322825
UK leaves EU.
Scotland leaves UK.
Scotland enters EU:
England enters EU?
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>>61322633
I sure hope so
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>>61322825
thats what i think too. though im not against the uk at all, you just had a boner.

my guess is youll become close to the current japan. young people will have a hard time getting through the situation. brexit just brings poverty to your life and middle classes in general
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>>61322805
Fuck Japan
Korea is right
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>>61323291
>Merkel

Pretty butt
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>>61322825
but if you never left it would never have been reformed
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>>61323376

Remember us.
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>eurocucks
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>>61323376
I never said it wasn't our own stupid fault
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>>61322647
They say German jokes are crappy...
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>>61322633
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>>61322654
>Holland
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>>61322849
They should also add a new clause where you can kick out a member if all the other members agree to it.
Too bad we don't have that already.
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>>61323595
Yeah, but Deutsche Bank knows shit. Would entrust a penny to them...
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>>61322633
It mostly depends on how Britain does when they leave... if they leave.

I'm sure the EU will be trying to fuck them hard as to make an example, but I have my suspicions that their parliament will block the referendum considering what's happening in their country, and they haven't even started the process of leaving.
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>>61322654
>EFTA maggots are desperate for EU break up because they don't have a say and still have to live with our rules
I'll enjoy watching you suffer when you realize no one else will leave.
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>>61322633
No, only an autist would think an Island Nation, all of which have large histories of Isolationism would bring about the end of a Non-Continent.
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Why countries not form anime union?
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>>61323710
>but I have my suspicions that their parliament will block the referendum
>mfw

Never gonna happen. MPs blocking it would be career suicide. And the Lords or the Queen blocking it would be an end to either's existence entirely.
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>>61323595
thats what breitshit is supposed to do. they are full of bs and always make the least shit out to be the greatest.
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>>61323595
Deutsche Bank lives from Goverment Money.
It's a Bank on welfare.
Do you think they would be on welfare if they knew shit?
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>>61323595
>UK stock market “tends to outperform during periods of GBP (pound) weakness”
Their rationale forgets why the pound weakens in the first place
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>>61323749
I doubt anyone would want to activate Article 50.

I mean, Johnson, the main leading Brexiter had a face of "oh shit, what have I done?!" yesterday.

We'll see what happens, but I seriously doubt that you'll leave, and even if you leave, you'll still get the Norway deal which doesn't help you at all, but won't affect the EU either way.

Good luck with whatever happens, though, will be interesting.
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>>61323843
>I doubt anyone would want to activate Article 50.
>I mean, Johnson, the main leading Brexiter had a face of "oh shit, what have I done?!" yesterday.

Why do you think Cameron resigned straight away, he didn't want to be the face of the biggest clusterfuck in our post-war history
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/uk-referendum-regrexit/

lel
bongs know they dun goofed
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>>61323719
Why do Germanic people love niggers and Muslims so much?
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>>61323892
>lose
>"n-nuh uh it doesn't count! do-over!"
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>>61323946
>do-over
>Leave wins again by a bigger margin
>ah shit
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>>61323892
pathetic propaganda, democracy has spoken
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>>61323877
Yeah, I think that's Cameron's last "fuck you" to everyone who fucked him over.

Is there a chance that he wants the Brexiters and the people who voted Leave to realize the mistake that they did, and he, riding like a knight in shining armor to say, "I told you so" and continue being PM? Or after stepping down and Johnson, for example, fails to deliver on Brexit, Cameron to make a pitch to be PM again?

It's like House of Cards, kek.
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there's atm going on a citizens' initiative on arranging a referendum in Finland too
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>>61323979
Cameron's a millionaire and resigned with dignity, he's out for good and got a relatively good end.

The leadership contest will be a disaster and it'll be followed by a disaster of a general election where some fuckwit coalition of Labour, Lib Dems and DUP takes over.
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>>61324011
>that """"language""""
what a mess
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>>61324018
>fuckwit coalition of Labour, SNP and DUP
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>>61324011
and the one which demands leaving eurozone got already sent to the parliament
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>>61324050
Do they have any impact in your country? Because those petitions here dont, not a single one has ever made parliament change it's position or set new policy
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>>61324011
Honestly, I don't know why you would do that, though. At least Britain sends large amount of sum to the EU budget, but you? You basically have 0 contribution towards it.
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>>61323595
DB is involved in a lot of shady stuff in the City, no wonder they say this shit as the pound collapses
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>>61322654
The French dislike the EU more than the Brits. Now only if their government would allow them a referendum...
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>>61324100
If Scotland leave, will Catalonia really go for it. Or is it all memes?
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>>61324081
they accepted gay marriages because of this, otherwise it wouldn't have happened.
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>>61324098
i guess they just don't want to get more mudslime refugees and i've heard finns are kind of the foreigner haters
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>>61324153

I just think this is plain populism and ignorance. The camel riders aren't coming to Finland, if they don't want them.

Nobody in the EU gives a fuck about the refugee quota except Merkel. And the border thing can be suspended, as France already did (I think).
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>>61324011
>>61324050
>implying any EU government will ever hold referendums on EU membership again after the Brexit vote
Unless some kind of fringe anti-EU party like UKIP actually gets the majority in national elections it won't happen.
And if those win they won't need to hold a referendum, they'll just leave straight away.
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>>61324205
No one realistically thinks there's a change of separating from the EU but the parliament needs to vote on that if they get 50 000 supporters, kind of a demonstration that we're becoming tired of this shit.
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>>61323595
is that breitbart?
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>>61324118
>The French dislike the EU more than the Brits

no

People don't want to leave the euro. That's a big fear here . They're all about that stop the muslim invasion shit but we're not fucking retard and know our immigrants come from africa which isn't in schengen

Not to mention that like half of france is some kind of shitskin already
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>>61323877
wasn't it because he pledged to remain, and didn't want to lead the country outside.
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>>61324258
well, in last election Perussuomalaiset was the 2nd largest party
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>>61324098
It's all about emotions now.
And we are a net payer in EU.

>>61324150
It would have happened, the pressure was already there. This just hastened it.
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>>61324337
17% of the vote is nowhere near a majority. And they actually lost votes from the previous election.
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>>61324335
>politician resigns after losing a vote

Nah senpaitachi, he was bolting before the rest of the shit hit the fan
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>>61324337
And now they're below the green party in popularity after failing to deliver during their time in the government.
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>>61324392
it was pretty blatant no confidence motion in his government from the looks of it. At least cameron saved his face
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>>61323263
poor people are always poor, otherwise they wouldn't be poor,
it's just the middle class worried I think
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>>61324411
if Soini gets superseded they might rise again
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>>61322849
This.

Brits were the ones, kept europe as hostages and now it is time to move on.
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Without EU, baltic states, poland, and other east euro nations will be threatened by Russia again...
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>>61324734
Nah they got NATO
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>>61324330
That's what I'm hearing m8. All the polls I've seen and the news is that the French people general dislike the EU.
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>>61324534
>Brits were the ones, kept europe as hostages and now it is time to move on.

Nah, you're just using the UK as a crutch. The EU is slow as fuck to act on anything, regardless of the UK's involvement.
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We're scared to go it alone.

France pls come with us
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>>61325051
>we're

Speak for yourself, bumboy.
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>mfw GB left us
Who's going to be our EU sugardad now?
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>>61323749
>Never gonna happen. MPs blocking it would be career suicide. And the Lords or the Queen blocking it would be an end to either's existence entirely.

If remain MPs had any spine, they'd just step down instead of voting for leaving.

>>61322849
>>61323678
>>61324534

I'm very doubtfull on this. At least at the present time.

1. Noone knows what reforms might even look like. A more effective and powerfull EU to prevent/solve crisis? Less EU to stregthen national states? A mixture of both? EU member states, politicians and the EU populace is torn on this.

2. Whatever they do, it is highly likely to strengthen anti-EU sentiments and noone wants that at the moment. If they give Eu any more power or try to make it's decision making more democratic or effective, anti-EUists will paint the image of the european super state. If the EU loses power anti-EUists will say, they were right all along and -come the next crisis- will blame the EU for being powerless to solve it.

3. Any reforms will take years of discussiokns, even heated discussions and consessions between member states, everyone will have to be ok with the changes and multiple countries will have to be referendums on the changes. More potential for anti-EUists to grow.


I think the only thing they can do now is to solve the current crises and try for reforms in a few years.
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>>61325152
EU should vote itself out of existence and then nations can start again. European Union is fine in principle, but it's gotten way off course and hasn't kept up with the times.
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>>61325257
A million times this.
A union for free trade, yes.
A union enslaving the common people sounds like another union a little more to the east.
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>>61324793
>hungary
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>>61322654
>Holland

I fucking kill you
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>holande gief referendum
>no
>ok

lmao french "far right" parties

There are student protests every day in france just fucking join em
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>>61325353
Independence for Holland when?
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>>61325410
Just flood it.
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>>61324147

I honestly have no idea. Normal cats are getting tired of the indy shit but the Scot thing may reactivate the whole thing. Who knows
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>>>61324464
Yes and those "immigrants/foreigners steal our jobs" folks are mostly that poor people, and they wont eventually work hard.
I dont much about know how people like Farage and Johnson actually want to deal with immigrants.

But even if the immigrants left or didnt come up, companies wouldnt bountifully offer all the vacant jobs to everyone just because it costs more than before.
As a result, instead they'd start to put many low income jobs for irregular employments to save the costs, and cut permanent employments and its salaries and rewards except for those greedy directors. Overall, they'd just take away permanent employment opportunities and well paid jobs from middle class people.

This is just a simulation. But I guess a similar case is gonna happen. Also adding to the above, pound has become weak and wont easily turn around. Its also not a good sign for middle class people, for instance, commodity prices as you usually see in your everyday life. Its gonna all rise.
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>>61324809
/pol/ is not French people in general
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>>61325353
Hys Hollanti
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>40 thousand people in the Vatican have signed the petition for a new referendum
>Vatican population is around 500

Think anyone will notice?
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>>61327474
Maybe God wills it
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>>61324809

>people like this man ruined my country

Stop reading the daily mail, you tit. What happens now we've left the EU, and you can't blame cancer and war on gay transgender Muslims from an SNP led Scotland?
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>>61327492
>sandwich islands signatures: 3338
>Population of sandwich islands: 30
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>>61324098
>You basically have 0 contribution towards it.
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What is it about the EU that made it so grossly 'undemocratic' anyway to cause all this?

is the european parliament toothless or cant dictate the direction of EU policy to EU bureaucrats or what? what are the members elected to do?
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>>61327521
Looks like you're the one out of touch with reality.
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>>61327675
It didn't give the landed gentry free reign to fuck over the hoi polloi. I mean they have shit like universal human rights and health and safety.

It's also mostly a bogeyman. So because the UK invented democracy (kek) what they do not like must be undemocratic.
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>>61322633
I hope not. What else will we join, when Putin goes on pension?
Of course we can create our own union, but i still have PTSD from the last one.
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>>61322633

It should not. But you can bet that Putin-funded far-right will try their best to make it look like it.
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>>61327851
So could i take it they swing the 'undemocratic' phrase at votes or policy directions taken by the EU parliament that Britain in particular might not like?

Might sound a bit like the whole 'states' rights' thing we got out here whenever a state government chafes at some federal initiative or other

We had our own Nullification Crisis but Andrew Jackson forced South Carolina to come to terms instead of having SC turned loose..
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