Any other globalists post on /int/? I'm really disappointed in the UK I really thought we were moving towards a world where free movement was possible between all countries and the EU was the first step towards that.
I support globalism, if the nations have respect between each other.
EU is nothing but a corrupt organization, that pisses all over nations wills forcing one path they deemed as correct to be applied on every country member.
That's not globalism. It's neo-colonialism
>>61262096
>free movement was possible between all countries and the EU was the first step towards that.
Take your "citizen of the world" bullshit back to your hippie weedman club and let the real adults do the talking
I support globalism
>>61262279
i had to hover my thing over your flag, pal xd
rite? goes to show America has to lead the world *yet again* in this matter as well by electing Hilary and trouncing Trump in November.
>>61262194
>I support globalism, if the nations
>>61262096
Free movement only works when the countries have similar standards of living.
EU should have stayed as UK, France, Germany and the Netherlands.
>>61262279
Sorry you're to bigoted and xenophobic you close minded fool borders are just a social construct.
>>61262096
Globalism = 1984 and This perfect day
>>61262096
NATION STATES SHALL NOT DIE
>>61262344
that's enough out of you bruce
>>61262344
Pic related is you right now.
>>61262194
>I support globalism, if the nations
about that...
I shit on globalism
The dream is over. We will go back to nationalism, populism and anti-intelectualism. I can now see how people at the beginning of the 20th century must have felt. Rising nationalism everywhere and an allmighty right that deliberatly destroys every last decency in public debate so they can sprawl their agenda. Facts don't matter, it's the feeling they selling. And people eat that shit up like fucking idiots
>>61262659
>Facts don't matter, it's the feeling they selling. And people eat that shit up like fucking idiots
Facts don't matter to lefties. You can't open borders and flood the first world with the third world subhumans.
>>61262328
>>61262590
it can work
no one in the globalised world will stop you from sinking afriniggers, there would be some chatter if you genocided the actual refugees, but not economic refugees
>>61262096
I feel for the Britpack, I really do. I've been a believer for a long time in the essential worth of bringing the world closer together. I believe fundamentally in the value of being able to communicate and travel across borders and cultural divides. Such things are of immeasurable value in tying us together as a species - it's hard to hate someone when you can look them in the eyes and talk to them. Along with this, trade and movement of populations helps promote world peace and the sort of unity we need to fight the really difficult problems like climate change. For me, anything that increases the divide between nations is, fundamentally, a blow against world peace, prosperity, and humanity as a whole.
I suspect, though, that this is our future: fragmentation, disunity, and a growing divide as short-sighted people split apart the social and political structures that such much blood, treasure, and energy have been spent to build. I suspect the EU's days are numbered, and perhaps NATO after that, and maybe the UN as well. In the wake we'll get a more Hobbesian world of nations warring against each other political, economically, and literally for petty, short-sighted gains, not unlike what we had in the 19th century. It'll probably take another big, horrific war to learn the value of global unity.
Sucks that you guys have to be on the bow-front of that particular wave.
>>61262096
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>61262659
The problem is people are fine with change, but have an upper limit on how much they can tolerate.
We live in a world of rapidly changing technology and economies, and on top of that you add lots of immigration and social "progress". Then you act surprised when people turn around and vote against you. If you took things a bit slower rather than having the mentality of "gotta get 1mil shitskins asap!" then the 'old racists' wouldnt win.
You've sown the seeds of your own demise, just like Camerin tried to do the 'right' thing and shot himself.
>>61262096
I love /int/ for the fact that we're everywhere. Shitposting
>>61262324
Good lad, fucking racist need to stopped.
why can't we have a "regional globalism". Just stick to your culturaly similar contry-friends and leave everyone else out.
But looks you can only be either nationalistic or full globalist
>>61262344
Jesus Christ.
>>61262606
This, desu.
>>61262096
Globalism is a neat idea, but I think they were too aggressive about it. You need to get some kind of baseline development standard before you open everything up, or you just get the Sea People Mk II.
Globalism worked in Star Trek because the world was uniformly devastated by WWIII.
When you've got massive inequality, you can't erase the borders without destroying the standard of living that was formerly protected by them.
>>61265040
Damn i used to be feel bad about my IQ being 120 but i now i feel blessed
>>61262344
Borders are a social construct but that doesn't mean they aren't real dumbfuck, just saying something is a social construct doesn't immediately invalidate it as a thing. They demarcate the rule of the laws on one country for another, they are very much a real thing.
>>61265347
It was obvious bait don't take it seriously.
>>61262096
I dislike the idea of a world government and supernational political organizations such as the EU, and think that unrestricted free trade is only exclusively good for elites and that there needs to be a degree of protection for the common man. Globalism does have some very solid ideas regardless.
>>61262279
>The real adults
>Colombia
>>61265437
>there needs to be a degree of protection for the common man
In earnest Governments have to prepare their people when they swing open the door
They have to pool up whatever industries they excel in and make damn well sure they still excel at it when the doors open
>>61262096
Ignorant baka smack muh head.
>>61262096
>we will never be ready for alien race because mankind still divided
>>61262328
globalism = shit
only supported by spoiled first world fags that hve no grasp on reality and think politicians should mold countries so they can upload travel pics to their normiebook
this guy knows:
>>61262279
>>61265040
>what is education
Idk if it'll work for blacks, but it's worked for near everyone else so far.
>>61265517
I'd be in favour of this. I have an Aunt twice removed across the pond
All I can say to the American people reading this is. Please don't be as careless as I was. I am currently working outside the country and thought that was a good excuse not to vote. I didn't share my opinion on the issue with the people around me until it was too late. I along with every other sensible person assumed that a decision like this would never be made. Yet it was.
Please do not allow yourselves to elect Trump, or every racist in the country will be emboldened like in the quote above. This will become the new norm. And the world WILL judge you all as if you voted for Trump personally.
me
>>61265040
>Taiwanese abos
>105
Kek
I'll support globalism once every society on Earth supports secularism, democratic government, free speech, the right to habeas corpus and a jury trial where the accused is afforded the presumption of innocence, and the sterilization of all "people" of African descent.
>>61265706
You fail to realize, the lack of a viable alternative means I will vote Trump just for the opportunity to bathe in an ocean of leftist tears.
>>61265608
>educating blacks
it's not working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dBbZFXr05U
>>61265957
how do they know cavemen test score?
>>61262096
If you live in a first world country you can pretty much go to any other first world country, that is all that matters afterall.
>>61265107
>turn every people into a mess of rootless, Americanised shitskins who work like slaves to pay the pensions of Miami-based old hags
>"muh global unity"
You know where you can shove your global dream m8
>>61265980
flinstones was a documentary
I would support globalism if everyone in the world was white.
>>61265957
>detroit
>>61265706
I'll vote for Trump despite his many flaws because fuck Hillary. Also, that flag is aesthetic as fuck.
Is globalist the new 4chan buzzword?
>>61265040
posting a "world IQ map" is a very feelingsy thing to do.
>>61266064
>White
How white?
>>61266142
>4chan buzzword
crawl back to plebbit
>>61266158
>posting statistics is feelingsy thing to do
>posting maps is feelingsy
up is down and left is right with you dummies
i could post an anecdotal agitprop story about niggers raping or being retarded too, if you like
>want free movement so you can move to a nicer country
>don't want free movement so immigrants from shitstans won't flood your country
second world problems
>>61266178
>>61266213
>leaf posters
>>61266178
I've been here for 10 years now you retarded semen slurping 3rd worlder.
The last time I heard the word "globalist" before yesterday was when those anarchist retards were chimping out in Seattle in '99. Then I checked out /pol/ yesterday and it was all globalist this, globalist that.
>>61266142
>buzzword
its not a buzzword, globalist.
>>61266213
""""""""""statistics""""""""""""
it doesnt even source a study
how fucking gullible are you?
I don't understand this whole globalism thing.
What will you guys do when literally billions of Chinese and Africans come over, willing to do your job for literally a few cents an hour?
What reason would any underdeveloped population have to stay and develop their own countries, rather than just to leave and go to a better one like your own?
>>61265040
Your MS Paint skills have improved, young padawan.
>>61265221
>racism
>bad
i'm offended that you and i share a planet
>>61266297
Use a reverse image search. The *secondary* source is this:
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf
The primary sources are the individual studies found therein.
>>61266031
>Americanised
obviously we would need to get rid of the imperialist american pigdog culture first before going foward to the glorious international communist utopia
>>61266362
it is
>>61266353
Don't fall sleep on the road nunga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA241Lg70fg
>>61266345
you could always exploit that labour surplus
>>61265630
You gonna fug her?
>>61265706
I'm tired of you fucking libcucks shitting on America's golden boy and shining hope. Trump is the single greatest person the United States has ever produced and ever will produce. He will save America. He will take America back. He will build the wall. He will deport the mudslimes. He will bomb the fuck out of ISIS and Al-Queda. You and your fucking jew shillary propaganda will never stop the true will of the American people. Go home and watch a nigger fuck a white woman, you pathetic peace of shit. Eat a long, black cock and die.
>>61265040
This map is only looking at indigenous people in each country (Sami in Finland, Ainu in Japan, Hmong in Southeast Asia, Aborigines in India, etc).
It's not looking at the actual majority populations of each country at all (Arabs in the Middle East, Bantus in Subsaharan Africa, Mestizos in Mexico, Punjabis in Pakistan, Han in China, etc.)
>>61266383
Richard Lynn.
>The samples, considered by Lynn (and Vanhanen), but discarded here, are given in the Appendix. Besides the two samples described above (Klingelhofer, 1967; Zindi, 1994), these are Wober's (1969) sample of factory workers, and Verhaegen's (1956) sample of uneducated adults from a primitive tribe in the then Belgian Congo in the 1950s. Verhaegen indicated that the SPM test format was rather confusing to the test-takers, and that the test did not meet the standards of valid measurement. In Wober's study, the reliability and validity were too low (Wober, 1975). In three of the samples in Table 1, the average IQ is below 70. These are Owen's large sample of Black South African school children tested in the 1980s, the 17 Black South Africans carefully selected for their illiteracy by Sonke (2001), and a group of uneducated Ethiopian Jewish children, who lived isolated from the western world in Ethiopia and immigrated to Israel in the 1980s (Kaniel & Fisherman, 1991). The last two samples cannot be considered to be representative.
>>61266509
underage?
>>61265448
>Spain
>In a position to criticize or make fun of anyone about anything
>>61266345
This experiment has been done in the USA in the beginning and middle of the 20th century. Originally blacks were imported northward as scabs to counter rising workers unions and strikes. When the strike would end, the blacks were fired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCrR6ltEep4
Also if you own real estate, you want an endless stream of warm bodies to put pressure on the housing market and renters market.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTIF8jVPrIE
>>61265040
>>61266520
it also has no source. seems pretty worthless to me.
>>61266533
bait, probably
>>61266524
I've been over this a gorillion times with a hundreds of other gorillas on this board since around 2009. I gave you the sources. You can look read the pdf and look at the tables and then look at the individual studies.
>>61262096
Here lad
>tfw student
>tfw closet globalist
>tfw can't post here, reddit or on normiebook about my globalist ideals
>>61266588
It does have a source. Widely debunked studies by Richard Lynn in the 70s
>>61266524
Lynn has all but admitted his SSA data is flawed.
It's already been demonstrated the IQ of US-Blacks is 85 relative to a 100 mean anyway. About the same different that exists between Whites and Jews.
>>61266619
Have you read any of the myriad critques to the studies?
>>61266588
The sources are in the PDF.
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/lynn-race-differences-in-intelligence.pdf
>>61266620
h8 u
>my identity, the structure of my very existence is defined by an arbitrary line on the map
>I will deny myself and billions of others the right to explore and mine opportunities across the world to protect this aforementioned arbitrary nationalism
>I am a slave to what my jingoistic politicians tell me and will never harbour the desire to leave my cave and explore the wilderness like a simple-minded, scared cuckold
Do nationalists really think like this?
>>61266647
Have you? You asked for sources.
Look here:
>>61266658
Am I going to go over the dozens of studies, *each* of which confirms weak results?
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2016/06/24/3792551/brexit-working-class/
Who exactly benefits from Brexit? It sure as hell isn't the uneducated white trash that got conned into voting for it.
>>61266699
British CEOs for ones since there's less competition and as a market structure tends towards a monopoly the Consumer surplus decreases.
>>61262322
Poland calling anyone irrelevant
>>61262096
I don't really see the purpose of globalism. Even if the world were to come together like that, there would just be civil wars to split it all back up again, anyway.
>>61262096
I don't get this "globalism" meme 2bh. Just because countries are trying to work together means that the white race will be destroyed? /pol/ keeps saying that it will be the end of the world if "they" win
>>61266658
Isn't Richard Lynn a real, non-ironic white nationalist? Wouldn't this skew his studies' results?
>>61266798
just send everyone who want to split it again to gulag
problem solved
>>61266658
Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
>Nissen et al., 1935
pic related
from 1935, and not even an IQ test. Great science m8
>>61266798
maybe we'd finally get colonies on other planets if we united, even if only for a decade or two
that's kinda it desu
>>61266798
The point of tbe world coming together like that is that it would mean we as a species had moved past all the tribal nation state bullshit an work together to improve every humans life.
>>61266869
wait let me try something
desu
tbqh
tbhq
>>61266845
>his studies
Look at the names of the authors in the reference column. You have dozens upon dozens of studies with Africans scoring low, in the 65-70 range. I'll give you this though: with good nutrition and better environment they could potentially score higher around 80, like blacks in America.
>>61266845
Shhh, we don't talk about that. All "scientists" are equally credible, and we don't need to worry about any white supremacy movements that they may or may not have been involved in.
>>61266850
There are dozens upon dozens of studies. Here's a scientific challeng efor you: find a *single* study of an African sample representative of the country which scores an IQ around 100.
>>61266435
This would be fine if we were talking about a few thousand. but most countries simply wouldn't be able to handle the influx of literally hundreds of millions.
It would be like adding 20 kilos of rice to your chicken rice and then being surprised when you cant taste the chicken anymore. (although this analogy would work better with liquids of some sort, think of adding few litres of water to your morning coffee)
>>61266692
>>61266658
Great science Richard Lynn. Making up numbers loosely based on widely differing studies spanning 50 years.
>>61266892
the below says "t b h" without the spaces
desu
did they put a wordfilter on that replaces "t b h" w/out spaces with "desu"?
>>61262096
Hey I feel you fà m
But its practically impossible in east Asia because China and Korea and their propaganda.
In SEA we'll see how ASEAN goes but I don't know. People don't think its got any significance
A lot of hatred between middle eastern countries.
Long way to go man until people stop hating others under the same 'flag'
>>61266926
Again:
There are dozens upon dozens of studies. Here's a scientific challeng efor you: find a *single* study of an African sample representative of their country which scores an IQ around 100.
Globalism is one of the worst possible thing to happen in our lifetime, it is simply a murder tool for a nation's sovereignty and self determination.
>>61266884
>work together to improve every humans life.
impossible.
>>61266951
>m-m-muh sovereignty
no surprises from Cucksrael
>>61266977
>Doesn't want sovereignty
>Calls others cucks
????
>>61266678
Globalism is just nationalism on a bigger scale
What happens when a globalist world comes into contact with another world. Would globalists start pushing Universalism? Would being human cease to define identity, but living.
Globalism isn't the way past nationalism. It's the "intellectual" version of the same thing. The only way to push past any toxic ideology is to cease to identify at all.
>>61266922
Not a single study of African populations gives an average anywhere close to the European average of 100. Also, in a lot of studies Asians and ashkenazi jews score higher than whites.
>>61266949
I picked the oldest one on your list and it is factually inconsistent with your "World IQ Map"
The numbers extrapolated from the studies were literally made up.
Why should I put credence into your studies when the very first one I looked at proved your source a liar?
>>61266949
There are dozens of studies funded by the same white supremacy groups. They repeatedly do the same studies and publish them under the names of different members of the group so that they can make it look to uneducated outsiders like there is a scientific basis for their racist ideologies. This kind of schlock gets rejected from legitimate peer-reviewed scientific journals over and over. You can't design a study with the intent of getting a specific result and then claim that your results prove something about the world when you get the results your study was designed to give you. That's not science.
>>61266927
Yeah like a year ago
>>61267031
Ignoring the fact that your numbers are made up by white nationalists, what exactly do you think are the implications of IQ? Does a higher IQ make you more of a person?
>>61262329
This guy.
>>61267033
Find me one study where Africans are shown to be of average intelligence.
Nissen's score for Guinea was 63. The map is just a vague approximation and assigns bantus a number of 71. It might be 75. It's not meant to be exact. It's still very low.
>>61266951
>jew
>doesn't want globalism
is this a bizarro world?
>>61262329
>No Belgium
kek
>>61262328
This.
>>61266884
That's virtually impossible in the real world, unless you find a way to create a hivemind, force everyone into joining it and deny them individuality.
Just look at the internet in its current social media dominated state, for fucks sake. The tool that makes it easier for people to connect is the tool that further isolates people with opposing visions. It only facilitates the creation of echo chambers
>>61267072
>numbers are made up by white nationalists
Find me an African nationalist who did a study which showed that their countries average IQ was anywhere close to 100.
>>61267021
>another world
what, like through the interdimensional portal?
>he thinks globalism can work perfectly in the 21st century
>>61267094
Have you ever heard of the Flynn effect? Are you remotely familiar with any of the legitimate scholarship (i.e. not shit produced by white supremacists) that has been done regarding the meaning of IQ numbers? I really suspect that the answer is no. All you've done is look for information that reinforces the hateful ideas you have.
WHAT IS GLOBALISM? I don't understand, is it jews?
>>61262659
When you neglect your country's right, they eventually get mad. During thatcher half of the "leave" territories lost all of their jobs, then you have safe spacers letting anyone into the country... No wonder wacky shit happens.
Better get your shit together rest of Europe. Maybe it's too late already
>>61262096
Problem with EU was the leadership.
The idea itself is sound - it's a pseudo-kingdom, and kingdoms are better than nation states. Less red tape, easier movement across the land, etc. The benefits certainly outweigh the negatives. But when the leaders design such a kingdom around maximizing their own wealth at the cost of others, certainly you can see the problem.
Spain and Greece are literally used as an anchor to keep the euro cheaper for investment. That's completely fucked up, not to mention their alienating immigration policies.
>>61267155
Yes.
Yes, globalism is jews.
Now go get in bed and ill be in there in a minute to tuck you in.
>>61267133
>>61267031
>sad manchild is inferior to other white people, so he goes on the internet and rants about how black people are inferior to all white people, including him
>this is the only way he can convince himself that he's better than someone in the world
>>61267133
I'm not making claims. You are.
You have to back up your claims.
Globalisation: no self determination, no principals, no respect for tradition, no respect for own culture, forced foreign morals, no privacy, meaningless judgments, no pride.
>>61267100
)))))))
>>61267198
what the hell is wrong with yank posters
>>61265868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b0ftfKFEJg
>>61267152
Yes I'm aware of the Flynn effect. Yes, the environment including nutrition and education affects the scores. But IQ is also highly heritable and partly affected by genes.
>The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.
*Also* I'm only talking about *averages* here which are important in the context of open door migration. I would close doors to the rare African scientist.
>>61267133
Why did you ignore the second half of that comment?
>>61267232
I would not* close
>>61267021
>we shouldn't pursue globalism because aliens
LMAO
>>61267152
find me statistics that show african countries have high IQs
>>61267175
>EU less red tape.
>>61265221
>hillary
>not racist
Trumps just dumb.
Hillary is racist, and homophobic she just hides it.
>>61266897
Most of those studies are decades out of date, and, as another anon pointed out, occasionally not IQ tests.
He seems to only find ways to discount the studies he disagrees with, only listing the types of tests used if they differ from the "standard" result. For example, on a particularly deviant South African row, he explains the disparity by stating that the result "was obtained from the Draw-a-Man test, which is a rather poor test of
general intelligence". No citation for the quality of the Draw-A-Man test, with a lacking description in his terms section.
Generally a really poorly written, vague study. If he really wanted to change minds on such a personal subject, he'd have to be much more airtight.
>>61267356
M8, find me a *single* study which scores the an African nation anywhere close to average Europeans. The point stands, ***opening borders wide open to borderline retarded (on average) populations will not benefit the host nation***.
>>61267301
You heard right you fucking coon. It's easier for yuros to trade with each other than it is from non-yuros to trade with yuros.
Having a high number of standards for QA isn't red tape. Don't expect a yokel like you to understand.
>>61267413
Canada isn't a European nation.
>>61267413
IQ doesn't mean what you think it does. Go read a book.
>>61265517
>Move to Wales 2 years ago
>If this happens I can move to New Zealand
So I literally get to go to BETTER WALES?
>>61267413
Burden of proof is on you. You can't ask us to disprove your babbling bullshit until you actually provide a source that doesn't make us want to laugh you out of the room.
>>61262096
Globalism is the best thing that could happen to bring a better standard of living to both wealthy and poor countries
>>61267513
I'm not even saying Europeans are "smart". I'm saying they're not going to get any smarter unless they're selective about the types of immigrants they allow in. It would benefit Europe to import the rare African scientist with gorillion IQ (though it would hurt the African nation).
>>61267535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_disability
> It is defined by an IQ score under 70 in addition to deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors that affect everyday, general living.
>>61265517
What about us? we were a colony too dad.
>>61265040
How did Botswana become one of the most successful and stable African countries if it's mean IQ is literally the lowest in the world?
>>61267575
>Burden of proof is on you.
M8, there are dozens of studies, consistently showing low scores. The point I'm making is you guys are picking one or two shitty studies while *all* studies consistently show Africans are retarded. Also I was genuinely curious.
>>61267655
That's a score for the indigenous population (bushmen), not the Bantus who migrated there. Bantus aren't indigenous to that region. Also I wouldn't stay by the accuracy of that score but these people live like proto-humans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKA9_FlsZqE
>>61267656
You should post a study that isn't retarded then.
I think nations should still exist, but that's only because the human race isn't ready for globalism. I'm not opposed to a global state, at some distant point down the line.
>>61267588
wouldn't the poor people just move to the rich countries and leave their homeland behind?
>>61262096
I would've voted Remain, but the EU needed a wake-up call. Hopefully more countries threaten to hold referenda and the EU agrees to serious reforms (and after these reforms Britain rejoins)
>>61267296
>>61267413
You're not arguing that Africans and Europeans have similar IQ levels. You're arguing that Africans are genetically predestined to have lower IQ levels than Europeans. There is a gap between the continents, but it is because of a lack of resources, wealth, and proper education.
Here's a study that shows wealth, when disparate enough, affects IQ:
http://psychcentral.com/news/2015/12/17/in-us-poverty-trumps-genetics-for-iq/96362.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
And that's just within a nation. A continental divide, when comparing countries that have a majority of their citizens living on less than a dollar a day to the wealthiest in the world? That's going to cause a massive disparity.
Here's a study showing a link between education and IQ:
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/2/425.full.pdf
Here's a study showing how poor the quality of education in Africa was in 2012, well before any of your study's surveys were conducted:
http://www.aaionline.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/AAI-SOE-report-2015-final.pdf
I'll leave you to put the two together.
Give it up, man.
>>61267710
>*every* *single* study is retarded
i doubt it.
>>61267749
Not one of those links are what I requested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEGqv-sN-fg
>>61267749
damn son leafs and Aussies getting BTFO
>>61267656
have you considered the fact that a lot of those african countries are poor and lack schools?
>>61267749
let's not also forget that with rising standards of living all over the world, the IQ gaps between developed and poor nations are getting smaller each year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27PnUuXR_A
>>61267756
>>61267788
Clearly, you did not read that post.
For fun, here's a report explaining how white nationalists produce bogus studies:
https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/d6_legacy_files/downloads/splc_nativistlobby.pdf
>>61267801
Yes, I already said so in thread. And I already pointed to the fact that IQ is also heritable. And we already have a population of obese Africans who live in the first world whose IQ is on average 85... So yes, we can raise their scores. We can also raise the scores of Chinese people living in poverty even higher.
>>61267756
Are you underage?
>>61267850
>a link on wealth affecting IQ
>a link o neducation and IQ
>a link on quality of education in Africa
None of them are studies of African populations who score on the level of Europeans. The well fed and best educated black South Africans would probably score 85 (on average, not all of course) just like blacks in the US.
>>61267869
Are you black? Because you can't properly parse logic.
>>61267907
>probably
>Canadians say Europeans are superior
>Americans defend Africans
Shit, I think Brexit did something to our dimension
>>61267937
I'm not white or black.
>>61267971
J. Philippe Rushton did a study on black students in University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg, South Africa and their average was 84. But he's a racist white supremacist so who cares.
>>61267996
On average they score higher on Raven's matrix tests than Africans, but lower than Ashenazis and select Chinese populations.
>>61267749
>subsaharan african countries have always been shitholes for their entire existence but its not because of the people, its because they don't have enough education!
also you're daft if you don't think africa has resources
>>61268019
He was also Canadian so he couldn't have contributed anything of value.
>>61267907
Again, you clearly did not read that post. I'm not arguing that "African populations score on the level of Europeans". I acknowledged that there is a disparity. However, your central point was never that there was a disparity. You argued that the cause of that disparity was primarily genetic. You have failed to prove that argument true.
You're asking for a study that doesn't exist, ignoring me and other anons when we refute your central point instead of abiding by your strange, futile standard for victory, and forming your whole argument around one, solitary, suspect study.
Please, stop dancing around the issue. Argue against my refutation.
There's an important distinction to be made with globalism
First there's the socialist globalism- smashing international boundaries because nationality and patriotism is nothing more than a distraction from a greater class struggle.
Then there's simply understanding that greater unions are ultimately positive for the people that live in them as wealth gets spread around it brings everytone up, and historically eras of scientific advancement occured when people were able to share ideas freely (renaissance happened in part because of revitalized silk road trade because of the mongols for example).
Ironically, the socialist globalism rhetoric you hear a lot from the "social democratic" types who are really very capitalistic. Profits and pure pragmatism over nationality.
>>61268080
> You argued that the cause of that disparity was primarily genetic.
I said it was partly genetic and according to American Psychological Association it is.
>>61267232
Also I'm genuinely curious about there being a study of Africans that gives the particular population a score of a 100 or so. The best I found was 85 for well fed South Africa university students by the racist Rushton. But he's racist so that study is garbage. Also I think I'm done debating with the captcha turning to shit.
>>61268049
The same argument could be applied to Navajo reservations, rural Myanmar & China, Belarus, Moldova, southern Italy, Yorkshire, Perth, etc. And they at least have the benefit of an industrialized economy, passable infrastructure, and not being stripped of anything of worth by other countries.
Africa has resources, that was a error on my part, but they're only exploited by foreign interests or corrupt despots (who often have western support!).
Europe was shit for most people until 1700, and even then still sucked. Japan and South Korea weren't livable by western standards until, like, 1960. I promise you, it's not the people.
>>61268295
african americans score well below white and asians in iq tests in the US
explain
>>61267653
I'd rather you guys be in that deal than the UK tbqh
>>61268295
>Japan and South Korea weren't livable by western standards until, like, 1960
that's bullshit though.
>>61267653
They didn't embarrass him and run off with the French.
>>61262096
>Freedom of movement over countries
stop this stupid idea. that's ridiculous as fuck. the EU was a false idea. globalists are joke.
>>61268254
No, you pretty clearly are arguing that genetic causes trump all other causes. I am arguing that a higher standard of living is the primary cause of the disparity. We both agree that both are a factor, but we disagree on the extent thereof.
Your study is flawed and porous, and your rhetoric is willfully obstructive. I suspect you don't want a debate, but a group of people to blindly confirm your views.
>>61268392
African Americans experience poverty at twice the rate of White and Asian Americans. Poverty, as previously noted, has an effect on IQ, particularly in America. Thus, poverty causes the gap.
http://federalsafetynet.com/us-poverty-statistics.html
http://psychcentral.com/news/2015/12/17/in-us-poverty-trumps-genetics-for-iq/96362.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
>>61262096
Free movement is not helping things.
>>61265107
>muh greater good
BUILD WALL
>>61268455
b-but he wouldn't give us representation
Free movement between the OECD minus turkey would be great. Leave out the rest of the world.
>>61268440
Here's a picture of Japanese fisherman before WW1. They don't have rods. You can see a village of wooden huts behind them. In less than 60 years, they went from this to, by 1970, rivaling the US in terms of GDP and beating the shit out of us in quality and rate of manufacturing.
Tell me they didn't industrialize before 1920 because of the people. Tell me.
>>61268572
that's on you bruh
>>61268572
isn't your government corrupt as fuck?
>>61262096
>free movement was possible between all countries
and the developed regions will get overflooded by immigrants from backwards regions
>they'll integrate and
nope. Average immigrant coming from less developed region is very unlikely to fully integrate new society, for various psychological and social reasons
>>61268500
and why exactly do they experience poverty do you think?
>>61268632
Except they were modernizing by the mid-19th century as should be obvious by the Russo-Japanese war. Showing some fishing village in bumblefuck nowhere isn't reflective of the nation's cultural and technological position in the world.
I'm not even weighing in on this 'fate of nations' crap. It's just obvious to me that you're using an extremely revisionist account to support your point.
>>61268752
T. Source please
I agree, but I think whether or not the second generation integrates is the make or break for whether immigration from a different culture is a net gain.
>>61268789
There are so many reasons for that.
>>61268832
there's only one that's correct
>>61268809
>everything I don't like is bait
>>61268752
Why don't you guys just abandon the idea of having a culture in the first place, it worked for america.
>>61268653
Nah, the plan is to put tariffs on stuff from Mexico, then you guys build the wall, Mexico can't do it since it will be built one mile into the US and that would be a mess.
>>61268695
Yours isn't so clean, its still corrupt but in a different level, but yeah, the government is pretty corrupt
>>61268440
No Korea's GDP was Nigeria-level in the 60's desu
>>61268889
>something is bait if I say it is
>>61268849
I know that you Aussies are descended from literal criminals but please stop acting like a retard.
Globalism is shit. Soros for prison.
>>61268849
Look, I appreciate your insistence on systematic, institutional racism as the sole cause of black poverty, but that's simply not the case. Decreasing economic mobility and concentration of poverty most likely play large and substantial roles.
You did think institutional racism was the one correct reason, right? :^)
>>61265608
>American Blacks
>Get educated
>Now IQ 83!
Okay Melbourne
>>61268979
>systematic, institutional racism
>>61268998
Hey, your opinion, not mine ;^)
>>61268978
>>>/pol/
>>61269019
>tries to read my mind
>fails
woah so this is the power of cuckoldry
>>61268998
If we gave them all the money in the world they'd still fuck things up.
>>61268998
>opinion discarded meme
Globalism is fucking stupid you ignorant buffoon. Not every single fucking person on the earth is your friend. If you can't even get along with your neighbor. How the fuck are you going to welcome Haji Mohammed and his long list of Sharia demands
>>61268998
>>61265957
>detroit schools are literally falling apart
>literally cannot provide a quality education
>"it's because they're black!"
okay, sure
>>61268979
and where is this systematic racism exactly? i thought affirmative action was designed to stop that? why don't we just make a black guy a president, haha oh wait
>>61265868
Nice one, I thought it was going to be 100% fedora for a sec.
>>61269046
black men are fucking your white wife
run for the hills
Globalism is actually (at least) four-hundred years away. That's if we don't go middle-ages mode in places that have already developed.
Your fantasy word is a good one, but you won't live to see it and you just have to live with that.
>>61267338
Hillary doesn't have any opinions about blacks or gays. She shifts her views to whatever is most popular at the time. She has no convictions of her own.
>>61269098
>its not black people's fault that they're retarded! it's the fault of white people!
ah yes
>>61269124
He's better than bush.
>>61269093
normally I call out barbarism but thieves have a special place of hatred in my heart.
>>61269098
Detroit is *administered* by blacks. It's an African city.
If you transplant Africans into Detroit, it will become like Africa. If you transplant Japanese to Detroit, it will turn into Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xypiZ-hqdY
>>61269157
>implying he isn't bush 2.0
>>61269157
I'd rather have Bush tbqh
>>61269184
Big difference between starting a war and inheriting one.
>>61269206
>I'd rather die in the middle east for Israeli and globalist interests
good goy
>>61269206
you're an idiot
>>61269124
>affirmative action means racism is gone
haha no
http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873.pdf
http://www.policechiefmagazine.org/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=display_arch&article_id=2499&issue_id=102011
http://www.huduser.gov/portal/Publications/pdf/HUD-514_HDS2012_execsumm.pdf
>>61269088
This.
There is no such thing as a global opinion. "Global opinion" is pure hyperbole."
I went to a liberal arts college for my undergrad and I heard too much about how we were all the same (no) and had the same ideas (again, no). These people lived in a bubble where the rest of the world didn't exist.
>>61269157
This. Given the congress he has to work with
>>61269166
>>61269169
Mississippi is a mostly white state and it is literally the poorest state in our union.
>>61269240
>racism isn't gone
well no shit genius
>>61269305
Isn't that the blackest state in the country?
>>61269223
>>61269228
at least i'd die from a bombing instead of having the banks devalue and steal my shit
>>61269324
>poorest state
> blackest state I see a pattern
Call me an idiot but doesn't the EU shit on globalism? Isn't making it harder for euro cuntries to trade outside europe go against free trade?
Or am I just a roo fucking derro cunt
>>61269169
>detroit is "african"
>elected mayor is white
mfw
>>61269351
retard
>>61269305
It depends.
My state is mostly white but we have a surplus fund every single year. This is because we made it so that the state government would be audited if they didn't at least break-even. It makes it so that the legislature can't spend more than they have in taxes.
>>61269360
>blacks can't get anywhere it's the glass ceiling
Obama
>>61269243
Those people are sheep. And they need to be protected for their own good. I got nothing against harmless liberals that just have good faith. But there's a reason we keep Sheep Dog with our Sheep Flock. To keep out the wolves. I always use Iceland as the prime example. They're perfectly happy not having guns, moon landings, building nuclear submarines. And they're annoyingly liberal. But I don't have faith in people not taking advantage of them.
>>61269322
>wants evidence of institutions propagating racism
>ignores evidence of institutions propagating racism
okay
>>61269378
notice how the majority of that state is still white
>>61269305
Why are you trying to trick me?
>>61262096
I am a brit guy who has lived in China for 2 years and will be living in Russia soon......... i voted remain, i never thought UK would actually do it........... madmen. Such a close vote.... clear considering the losses uk has already. Never leave the fate of your country in the hands of the masses.
>>61269284
what you don't like WWE? Wrestling is dope.
>>61269360
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zti_508FRrE
>>61269390
Not my argument
>>61269360
>detroit isn't african american
are you on drugs
>>61269243
Can confirm.
