Opinion: We should put "boots on the ground" in Iraq and kill ISIS.
Thoughts?
>>61212831
Why? ISIS is going to lose whether we do that or not. If we don't do it we don't have to spend any resources doing it, and nobody has to get mad at us for killing mudbloods.
>>61212895
1. It destroys their credibility as a caliphate so people stop joining.
2. If they are dead, they can't kill people anymore.
3. They would probably nuke us the first chance they get.
4. It would be badass.
What we aught to do is obliterate saudi arabi and end the threat of global jihad at its source, instead of being their friends for some reason.
>>61212952
you're fucking retarded. foreign fighters invading their territory is literally their apocalyptic dream
>>61212991
Ok, and? So they get their dream and we kill them all.
>>61212831
We should just silently fund the Kurds and let them do it for us
>>61212831
Is America even qualified to put boots on the ground?
>>61213064
Pretty sure we already give them support. Not to mention a lot of them are retarded socialists who would set up a shitty state anyway.
Also they would probably stop caring after they cleared out the Northern half of Iraq.
>>61213063
Like you did in Iraq?
yes let's enable more dumb shitskins to join ISIS
>>61213163
Yes. The problem is we need to fully commit. Iraq spiraled out of control because we left while underestimating how much Muslims like killing each other.
>>61212991
It's like in the Dawn of the Dead movie right?
IS is here to stay boys
>>61212952
>1. It destroys their credibility as a caliphate so people stop joining.
who cares, they're gonna lose anyway, their credibility is already trash
>2. If they are dead, they can't kill people anymore.
fair point but there are a ton of bad people all over the world, gotta do a cost benefit analysis to see if it's worth it
>3. They would probably nuke us the first chance they get.
they don't have nukes
>4. It would be badass.
I don't care about this
yeah nah, ISIS is a bunch of dicks but we should have learned our lesson from last time. more US involvement in the middle east would only make things worse in the future.
If we rekt ISIS, another ISIS would sprout in another 10 years or so. Let the middle east deal with it on its own.
My thought is that your opinion is fucking retarded
They're already losing, we don't need to have our citizens die unnecessarily so you can fulfill your idiotic "America Saves The Day" fantasy
>>61213302
Thanks to turkish fundings
Nope.
Secure a border around the region and don't let anyone in or out. Let them sort their own shit out.
Or, Tactical nukes
>>61213220
>be Ahmed, French muslim in his 20's
>suddenly it is announced that all member states of NATO must instate a mandatory draft for all males and go fight ISIS on the ground
>get drafted into army, get quality training in all weapons and equipment
>arrive in Iraq
>desert the infidels and literally walk a few feet to the ISIS base and join them, taking equipment and knowledge with me
>>61213309
>who cares, they're gonna lose anyway, their credibility is already trash
They have credibility as a caliphate, tons of people are joining them and pledging allegiance.
>fair point but there are a ton of bad people all over the world, gotta do a cost benefit analysis to see if it's worth it
Genocide and religious terrorism is not just "bad people." It's a cancer on the Earth.
>they don't have nukes
Not yet.
>>61213315
>Let the middle east deal with it on its own.
Easy to say when you're not getting gunned down or nuked by some Muslim from over there. Being the world police is a necessity when you have world criminals.
>>61213348
>they're already losing
t. Obama
>>61212831
No!
After Hussite wars (which share many elements with current situation in Iraq), the religiosity was at all time's low as people began to blame the very religion itself for the suffering caused by the wars.
Now, I m not Fedora tipper myself, but can you not agree than atheism is prefferable to Islam?
>>61213510
You Czech fucks have to shoehorn Jan Hus into every thread, don't you?
>>61213451
Where the fuck would they get nukes
They still use late 90s pick up trucks to move around, you think they have the technology to develop a nuke?
>>61213435
Haha, that's funny because it remind me those stories about arabs trained and equipped by murrica before joining the other side hahaha
>>61213621
Idk, the black market? Pakistan?
>>61213642
Are you talking about the 80s in Afghanistan?
>>61213654
do you honestly believe you could obtain a nuclear warhead off the black market
in any case, if they somehow DID obtain a nuke, how would they launch it?
>>61213773
You can definitely by nukes on the black market. Google it nigga.
>>61213773
just press the buttons man
>>61212985
cheap oil my friend, you can't fight cheap oil and the oil and gas giants, they have the whole echelon of world leaders bought and at their command
We already have better alternative energy sources but its being killed by the O&G corps
>>61212831
ISIS is an ideology not a military group, you kill them all in Syria and Iraq they will pop back up in Egypt and Saudi Arabia.
The future of Sunni world is Islamism, the only question is which type of Islamism, ISIS or Ikhwan. The sooner west stops interfering and let's the Ikhwani-like Islamists take over the chance of ISIS tier groups winning lessens.
The hysterical delusions of liberal West for Arab spring fairytales are now closer to a joke than reality.
>>61212831
yes you fucking should you pieces of shit train the Iraqi army this time before leaving too and bomb Iran while you're at it
>>61219555
stop spreading that map
>>61212831
What do you intend to gain from that?
