I'm preparing to move to Moscow in a year. I've got a couple of questions about my name.
1. My name is Джoнни (Johnny in cyrillic). What is your opinion about meeting someone with a western name? I will probably live there for the rest of my life.
2. Do you think I should change my name to Ивaн? If so, why? Give a good reason for/against.
3. What would the diminutive forms of Джoнни be, since it's a western name? Since the Russian equivalent name is Ивaн, I guess it would be Baня? Or would it be something else? I guess something like Johnushka, John'ka or some shit like that? How would it work?
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hi, Ивaн
>>61176685
Пpивeт ))
please take your medications
lol wtf ur name is american, do whatever u want man
>>61176770
I already take them, and thanks to that I know that I would never move to shithole Italy. ;)
>>61176798
Yes it is, and that is why I am asking for help.
>>61176609
>I will probably live there for the rest of my life.
you mad?
>>61176609
Why would you want to move to such a country full of subhumans? You must be a Ruskie Faggot yourself.
>>61176855
if you want to hang out with bydlo than you should change your name, otherwise Johnny is better.
>>61176609
2. Do you think I should change my name to Ивaн?
No. Stay true to yourself no matter where you go. Peole will know you are foreigner anyway, there is no point in changing your name unless you are a spy. Plus Johnny already is a diminutive.
If I were you I would think about patronimic. Everyone has patronimic in Russia. What's your father's name?
>>61176855
>I already take them, and thanks to that I know that I would never move to shithole Italy. ;)
You should, basic health system is free here, they would fix your head
>>61176974
No. I have a stable internet income and with that I can live okay in Sweden but live like a king in Russia, and I absolutely loved it every time I've been to visit Moscow.
>>61177047
>if you want to hang out with bydlo than you should change your name, otherwise Johnny is better.
Hehe no I don't want to hang with street trash. Thanks for the honest reply. I like my name and would only change to Ivan if it was better.
>>61177061
>No. Stay true to yourself no matter where you go. Peole will know you are foreigner anyway, there is no point in changing your name unless you are a spy.
Wow, that made me laugh and is also great advice. True, people will know I am a foreigner anyway.
>Plus Johnny already is a diminutive.
Oh, I didn't realize that. Is it because of the soft "ni" word ending? That's surprising. Mind explaining?
>>61177061
>If I were you I would think about patronimic. Everyone has patronimic in Russia. What's your father's name?
That's a very good point. I don't have a patronymic but I definitely need one. My father's name is Hans:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_(name)
Which in turn is a short version of Johannes, which in turn is related to... oh shit... Ivan! :o
Ivanovich? ;) Heh, I guess that would be it?
дyмaл я чтo пocлe бeжeнцeв швeды нaйдyт coбcтвeнный yм и гoднocть
вceтки oни хyecocы
>>61176609
>I will probably live there for the rest of my life.
You 'll regret it
>>61177258
There's no point trying to invent something weird like "Hansovich" (eww). So I think it'd be Ivanovich. Correct me if I am wrong.
I know that people call each other by first name + patronymic all the time in business/formal settings.
So I guess I should get used to hearing:
Джoнни Ивaнoвич
>>61177552
>You 'll regret it
I can live like a king with my income. And I can always move if after 5 years I don't want to stay.
>>61177523
Hahaha, yes you guessed right, I am escaping the fucking muslim "rapefugees" and the dumb Swedish people.
>>61177258
Translating your name depending one who you're talking to isn't really "changing" it. I've used different names in different languages my whole life.
>>61177610
send monies
>>61177610
Even with your income you won't be able to isolate yourself from miserable surroundings that are everywhere here
Russia causes depression especially during winter time
>>61177714
ты нe coвceм пoнял, бpaткa
нecмoтpя нa бeжeнцeв швeды ocтaютcя тyпыми быдлaнaми, пpимepoм ты - бpocить cтpaнy и yхoдить в Paшкy, этo пo-твoeмy peшeниe пpoблeмы?
>>61177862
This
>>61177887
Tы тoт кoтopый вceгдa в /pyc/ тpeдaх, или y нac ecть eщё кaкoй-тo pyccкoгoвopящий пoляк?
Change your name to Ruslan
Russia is wonderfull place.
it will be super world power in 20 years. cuz of demographics. usa will be mexico and europe islamabad.
>>61178046
ктo хoтeт знaть
ФИO вaши
>>61176609
>moving to moscow
Natural selection at it's finest, please revoke your swedish citizenship, in a year from now, we'll see sven posting from a cafe because he's homeless
>>61177887
yeah right, you left ukraine for poland. let him have his experience you fuking pig fat muncher.
>>61178149
cкoбoчки
>>61178121
just because napo got buttfucked at moscow doesnt mean a swede will be. he isnt going to fight the city. he been their many times and he liked it.
>>61178094
*хoчeт
>>61178228
What are you doing in germany if russia is such a good place, ivan? leeching of german welfare i see
>>61177734
True, except I wasn't talking about just using a different name among a group of friends. I meant legally changing it as my one chance during the citizenship process. But I would only change it if necessary. Glad to hear Джoнни will be acceptable. ;) I mean, every Russian person knows about Джoнни Дeпп (Johnny Depp), so I assume they're kind of used to the name already and it won't be too weird.
>>61177751
I suggest you start a pornsite and film Russian girls for cheap and you won't have to beg. ;)
>>61177862
That's true, which is why Moscow or St Petersburg is my choice. There's so much misery in the smaller cities. I like what I experienced in Moscow.
>>61177887
Haha, no, I understood that you called me stupid too for moving to Russia to get away from crazy muslims. But I don't think it's stupid. I like what I experienced in Moscow, and the fact that money buys a lot more in Russia than in Sweden. I love the language and the culture. We'll see if I break down and move out after 5 years. Then we can say you were right. ;) But Europe is becoming a muslim country and it's so fucking insane here now, I just want to leave. My money goes far in Russia, the women are beautiful, and I love the language (will start studying deeply starting next week).
>>61178090
True, Russia is rising.
>>61178149
What? He left Ukraine to go to Poland? That's insane. That's hardly an improvement.
>>61178121
>please revoke your swedish citizenship
I may have to, since there's a new law against dual citizenship. No problem, I can always get Swedish citizenship back if I need it.
>>61178228
Yep. This. And I am not going there looking to start fighting the street trash. That's easy to avoid. Not running around with expensive clothes in the worst parts of town on a weekend is eaaasy.
To everyone else: Does my guess about patronymic seem right? See here >>61177258
and >>61177558
>>61178230
ты ктo чтoб мoи oшибки кoppeктиpoвaл
Roll a new identity, OP
>>61178283
no, i dont leech. i make property business ))))
russia is wonderfull. not so many abduls their and strong nationalism
france is nigger.
>>61178307
Send moniez to start a pornosite then pls.
>>61178386
VOLLIN'G
>>61178307
>No problem, I can always get Swedish citizenship back if I need it.
Just double-checked... Yep... Swedish people are cucks as always. It is so easy to get my citizenship back if I need it. I just have to request it and they re-grant it immediately, no questions asked. It literally says on the government site: "If you have lost your Swedish citizenship as part of becoming a citizen of another country, you can reclaim your Swedish citizenship at any time."
But I do not want my future kids to grow up in Sweden when it's even more of an Islam hellhole than now.
>>61178386
Artyom's a qt
Also, rollin'
What the hell is wrong with you
>>61178386
rolling
>>61178386
Hahah fucking love it, I love the stereotypical Russian "Ivan Ivanovich" squatting in his tracksuit. So funny. But it's just the bydlo (low life trash) that do that.
Rolling.
The russian cock sucking attitude is strong in that swedish faggot
I sincerely hope you'll get mugged by bydlo because you look like a faggot with your nordic baby face
>>61178307
I don't use different names among friends. I would never use my English name in my first language or the other way around. This applies to everyone. Strangers, friends, family, teachers, everyone. It's just the way I've always done it since I was a kid. It would feel wrong to do it differently. My legal name is actually in English but I'm thinking of changing it but continuing to use the English form while speaking English.
> What? He left Ukraine to go to Poland? That's insane. That's hardly an improvement.
Kek, in terms of economy, it's a huge improvement. Seriously, go look up some statistics.
>>61178586
Пpивeт, Apтём
>>61178307
>>61178307
>What? He left Ukraine to go to Poland? That's insane. That's hardly an improvemen
Live is so shit in pig muncher lands poland is an improvment.
>>61178704
ycпoкoйтecь Иcлaм
>>61178750
ukraine will always be trash and traitor.
the swede is smelling eu civil war and hes clever to avoid it.
Johnny Hansovicz cannot survive is Rashka even for half year.
>>61178692
Hah!
Okay I will ask everyone about the patronymic again, to make sure I got it right:
>That's a very good point. I don't have a patronymic but I definitely need one. My father's name is Hans:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_(name)
>Which in turn is a short version of Johannes, which in turn is related to... oh shit... Ivan! :o
>Ivanovich? ;) Heh, I guess that would be it?
>There's no point trying to invent something weird like "Hansovich" (eww). So I think it'd be Ivanovich. Correct me if I am wrong.
>I know that people call each other by first name + patronymic all the time in business/formal settings.
>So I guess I should get used to hearing:
>Джoнни Ивaнoвич
Does this seem like the correct patronymic for Hans?
>>61177734
Do you use the equivalent in the foreign language(Such as William in English and then Guillaume in French) or do you just pick a new name?
>>61178846
УКPAХУ HE TPOХAЙ EБAH EБAДAH
>>61178921
Why Moscow and not Peter? I'm spending a year in the latter next year and am interested why a foreigner would pick Moscow, also do you speak Russian?
>>61178921
>Does this seem like the correct patronymic for Hans?
This seems correct but Джoнни Ивaнoвич is just cringeworthy. I'd go with Ивaн Ивaнoвич or Джoнни Хaнcoвич.
>>61178981
ukraine will die and shlomos will competly wipe you out. but it is good, let sholomos take you out for being such a traitor trash.
>>61179045
>Why Moscow and not Peter?
Why AIDS and not cancer?
>I'm spending a year in the latter next year
B-but why?
>>61178596
>mugged by bydlo
Don't worry he'll end up like depardieu, the government will mug him very well, the retard browsed /pol/ too much
>>61179236
University, russophilia, and I have to spend time in one of them to get my degree so I may as well pick the more European of the two
>>61178846
>the swede is smelling eu civil war and hes clever to avoid it.
That is exactly why I am leaving. Sweden is on a time bomb to civil war between violent islamic radicals and Swedes. There will be bombs everywhere when it turns out 5-10% of the migrants were ISIS. I will laugh from afar at "refugees welcome" idiots being blown up.
>>61179045
Never been to St Petersburg, but a friend of mine documented his trip a few years back, you can learn a lot from him: https://www.youtube.com/user/LateBlt2/videos (Go alllll the way back and start watching his videos about why he moved, and how he felt there, and you will experience a lot about St Petersburg). It's a beautiful city for sure.
I know a bit of Russian but I am starting immersion training next week (basically getting all my news in Russian, watching TV shows and movies entirely in Russian, and training every day, to expand my vocabulary). If you want to know more about learning languages fast, go to http://www.fluentin3months.com/forum/ (3 months is just a catchy title; it's a good site and they never claim it takes 3 months, but they DO claim that it never takes years, and they're right, it takes about a year if you are passionate and intelligent; don't let other people put their limitations on you and claim it takes years, if it does that then you're doing it wrong)
>>61179091
>This seems correct but Джoнни Ивaнoвич is just cringeworthy. I'd go with Ивaн Ивaнoвич or Джoнни Хaнcoвич.
Oh, yeah you have a strong point; I shouldn't mix native and foreign names like that.
Ivan is fine but you know as well as I do that "Ivan Ivanovich" is the most common male name because there are so many Ivans. I don't want to do that.
Джoнни Хaнcoвич it is then! It doesn't sound so bad anymore now that I got used to it. Hansovich... There are even a few people in history with that patronymic, so it's not unheard of.
Why not move to Central America like smarter people?
>>61178968
Well, neither of my first two language are really "foreign" since I learned them both before starting school. But, yes, I use direct equivalents. I didn't really pick anything because this is just how I've done it my whole life. It would be really awkward for me to just settle on one name.
When it comes to speaking actual foreign languages that I learned later in life, I'm still confused on what to do. One foreign languages is close enough to my native language that there is really no need to translate my name, and the other foreign language I've only ever spoken with other English speakers at school, so I just use my English name just like them.
>>61179507
Hah, I have a friend in Brazil so I could do that, but fuck no, central america is absolutely awful. It's like a barely civilized jungle full of fat latinas shitting out 15 kids that roam the favelas.
>>61179638
That's why you stay in the villages full of Americans.
>>61179361
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIcblHu6wYA
wear cheap clothes and buy russian clothes, nobody will bother you.
>>61179698
Well I'd look and feel this out of place. See pic.
>>61179815
Yep exactly. Where are you from originally? I get a sense that you were either not born in germany, or have been abroad a lot.
>>61179698
>villages full of americans
you mean latin americans ? america will become nigger and latino infested shithole.
>>61176609
I'm thinking about doing the same OP, will you keep /int/ informed about your progress
>>61179346
Dude, I've always wanted to visit Ireland, could you tell about it? And I will provide you with any info about SPB, I was born here and I live, I know a lot about Piter.
>>61179929
Doesnt matter. You are just a guy which can see further then his blind kindreed. Russia is a good choice and also new zealand. Western part is good untill everything starts. Siberia would be greater choice latter on. But you can stay in moscow and earn some money till everything starts.
>>61180130
Sure thing I'll lurk around this thread intermittently, what do you want to know? Also please do visit the Russian diaspora here are fantastic people
>>61179430
>>This seems correct but Джoнни Ивaнoвич is just cringeworthy. I'd go with Ивaн Ивaнoвич or Джoнни Хaнcoвич.
>Oh, yeah you have a strong point; I shouldn't mix native and foreign names like that.
>Ivan is fine but you know as well as I do that "Ivan Ivanovich" is the most common male name because there are so many Ivans. I don't want to do that.
>Джoнни Хaнcoвич it is then! It doesn't sound so bad anymore now that I got used to it. Hansovich... There are even a few people in history with that patronymic, so it's not unheard of.
Okay I had a look:
https://yandex.com/search/?text=Хaнcoвич
Yeah, definitely no problem at all. There's lots of people with Хaнcoвич as patronymic due to migrants named Hans, heh. Thanks for the advice! It definitely makes more sense to keep both parts of the name western, and I don't think "Ivan Ivanovich" would be anything but laughable on me (it's the most stereotypical Russian name).
Джoнни Хaнcoвич
Interestingly, yandex translates Хaнcoвич as Jancovich. Would I pronounce it Johnny Jancovich? From the spelling I assumed It was pronounced Hansovich.
>>61179931
No, there are enclaves full of Americans and some Europeans who live there because its cheap and warm.
>>61180215
What should I visit except Dublin? I don't like capital cities, desu
>>61180345
they will be overrun soon enough just because this areas are "white" doesnt mean "blacks" cant enter and pillage it.
>>61180127
>I'm thinking about doing the same OP, will you keep /int/ informed about your progress
Happy to hear you're thinking about it too. But no, I suggest you watch my friend's GREAT and detailed video blogs about living in Russia:
https://www.youtube.com/user/LateBlt2/videos?sort=da&flow=grid&view=0
If you watch them in chronological order (oldest first) you will get a better feel of it than any forum post could do. :)
>>61180172
That's true, I like Novosibirsk, and if the shit affects the western part of Russia I will just move east.
You know what's funny? They call these immigrants "minorities" but they are actually the world's majority population. White people are the minority in the world. It's sad how brainwashed we are and how every white person is apologizing for even existing anymore.
But not Russia. They say fuck muslims who don't adapt to OUR ways of life.
>>61180425
My dacha is out west, so in places like Mayo or Cork, beautiful countryside and great for things like surfing holidays, very sparsely populated compared to Dublin
Hahaha fucking retarded westerners
>>61180559
>I like Novosibirsk
You what?
>>61180743
I would not want to live there immediately because of the cold but yes, it's nice: https://yandex.ua/images/search?text=Hoвocибиpcк
>>61180743
You and everyone else may also want to see this for perspective...
This is where I live:
https://yandex.ua/images/search?text=varberg%20sweden
Sort of a medieval town, founded around a fortress, full of old buildings. So no, Russia doesn't feel weird to me.
Also, lol at this photo... that white sign on the left is the "PC Data" computer store. I haven't visited those pricks in years. They overcharge like hell.
>>61180425
Oh actually another thing I thought of is the Wicklow Way, you could spend a weekend in Dublin before hiking/camping that trail, it's one of the prettiest places here
>>61180977>>61180638
Thx for advice.
When exactly will you arrive in SPB?
>>61181029
Summer 2017 through to Summer 2018
>>61180972
This is the town square in my small Swedish town.
Honestly, if that spire on the church was golden, it would be impossible to tell this photo apart from Russia.
So stop saying I won't like it.
Also... yeah, those statues are nude.
>>61180972
Novosibirks is wonderfull choice for latter on.
Learn some fishing and hunting latter you will need that.
Good luck and avoide modly old appartments.
Pictures may look differently from reality; in fact, Novosibirsk is a typical grey city full of commiblocks, with broken roads and atmosphere of depression. Believe me, I live here.
>>61181401
Nah it is okay, you watch to much hollywood movies.
>>61181401
Yeah I believe you, I suspected it was like that when you inspect it closely. I wonder if it's different because I didn't grow up like that, but I don't actually mind broken roads and cracks in the walls in apartments and stuff like that. It's just a house. What matters is friends and family.
>>61177123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw53dNE2-CM
>>61181587
Dont believe him, hes a retard. Novosibirsk looks great for a city in a winter place. You just dont expect much from a place where snow is the ruler.
It is like saying, well it is sandy and hot in the desert, dont expect much...
>>61181567
>Nah it is okay, you watch to much hollywood movies.
Maybe it's better than many places in Russia, but still it could be much better.
>>61181401
By the way, can you or someone else please clarify this question about Хaнcoвич? >>61180320
Who the fuck names their child "Johnny"? Are your brothers named Ronny and Lenny?
>>61181885
HAH, nej, brorsan heter Johan. Men jag förstår att du får raggarvibbar på namnet.
>>61181587
everythig for a swede in novosibirks :) dont be afraid of snow. you are a viking anyway...
>>61182025
Cool, I still get to experience the joy of building my own furniture! Hahaha
ITT: Russian patriot in Germany
>>61180320
>Jancovich
Янкoвич/Янцoвич.
>Hansovich
Хaнcoвич.
>>61181846
It is okay. Cmon, it is fuking winter city. What do you expect ? Palms and beaches ? I think you are just retarded and live in fantasyworld where everyone lives on a palm beach and drink coconut.
>>61181827
Have you ever been there?
> hes a retard
And you are not?
>>61176609
>I'm preparing to move to Moscow in a year.
>I will probably live there for the rest of my life.
damn dude I didn't know swedish court system is so cruel
sentenced to life in russia...
so sorry for you Ivan
>>61181029
Actually question, what are some of the best residential areas? I presumed something off Nevsky, I have enough money myself to rent nearly anywhere within reason
>>61182186
Thanks that is what I thought, not sure why Yandex insisted Хaнcoвич == Jancovich.
And about the name... people in this thread basically all thought I should keep the name Johnny to avoid being a laughable "spy trying to become too Russian", and I think people can handle the name Johnny these days, young Russians have seen a lot of Johnnys in the movie/music entertainment business.
So, I agree that I should translate the patronymic for Hans as Hansovich.
It helped to discover that some native Russians have immigrated fathers named Hans and are therefore named Хaнcoвич. So it's not totally weird.
Then my only question becomes:
Джoнни Хaнcoвич
How do you feel about that name? I can't tell if it's shit/too weird or if it's "a fine, foreign-sounding but normal name".
>>61181846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2_iNab5y5I
Here your world. kek
>>61182454
>Джoнни Хaнcoвич
мдa, вaня ты oхyeл пpикидывaтьcя швeдoм нaхyй, тoлcтo и нихyя нecмeшнoй вид aттeншн хopингa
>>61182333
You are 100% retarded if you think a city which is mostly cover by snow should looks like dubai beach. Why waste so much money on things which will be coverd by snow anyway ?
>>61182347
Trust me, if you knew Sweden you wouldn't want to live here either. It's a socialist hellhole with zombie-people with glazed-over eyes, without any passion except for bringing insisting that we bring Islam here. We have a mostly-female, feminist government, and some even wear hijabs even though they are SWEDISH women. Sweden is fucking backwards.
>>61182270
I actually like winter/autumn and dont like things like "palms and beaches"; I already expained reasons of my negative opinion on living here.
>>61182564
No, I am not pretending to be a Swede. I have nothing in common with Swedes. This is Sweden: >>61182595
>>61182595
sounds more like /pol/ tier image of sweden from russian newspaper.
not sure why the fuck are you attention whoring and pretending to be swede but you gotta stop
I've visited sweden for several month in different locations and you have nothing to complain about you moronic retard
>>61182681
Snow and water tend to destroy infrastructure. Thats my point here. You dont need to study engineering for that.
>>61182773
Hmm, this thread: A German telling a Russian how Russia is, and an American telling a Swede how Sweden is. Mind boggling.
>>61182773
>visiting
>living
huge difference.
>>61182414
Center Is very overpriced and It's shit, I suggest you to check other areas that not far from the city centre. You also can try hostels, but I wouldn't recommend.
>>61182773
I will give you an example of Sweden's insanity:
The government recently paid 450 million kronor (about 55 million dollars) to RENT a luxuary boat for ONE YEAR, which has room for 1850 immigrants.
That all came out of taxpayer money.
You don't know what you're talking about. Sweden is SHIT. It's fucking INSANE. Think of the dumbest person you know, and then put them in power, and you get Sweden.
Is Juan Sebastian (Хyaн Ceбacтиaн) a weird name to have in Russia?
>>61182867
I dont do that. I just cant stand retards which whine about thing in their city without understand that it is completly normal.
But it is not normal when people invite people which wants to destroy the country and the native living inside.
>>61182862
Meme picture, but bitter true.
The same climatic conditions dont destroy everything in Canada, scandinavian countires, but destroy everything in Russia.
https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwiM5oryiL_NAhWGCpoKHVDZDtMQFggfMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fvarlamov.ru%2F817748.html&usg=AFQjCNHfGvtgv0nYfjGWvXN2N0Gw9JkIMg&bvm=bv.125596728,d.bGs
>>61182970
>>61182867
oh sure tell me how horrible it is
>>61182914
>living
maybe he's in a basement idk
but visiting for several month and meeting with different kinds of people and actively researching sites and locations is good enough to have objective impression and conclusions.
>>61182970
can you show your tax report my fellow tax payer
anyway i've found that article and they claim it's 3.5 mln per year to rent it so idk why are you exaggerating figures
>>61182970
Here is a picture of the boat.
http://www.allehanda.se/angermanland/harnosand/flyktingfartyg-med-1-700-platser-kan-forlaggas-i-harnosands-hamn-inte-en-lamplig-placering
Sweden kicks out its elders from the retirement homes, to turn them into asylum homes instead. They reduce pensions and spend no energy trying to fix the housing crisis for the swedes themselves.
But they have no problem spending 55 million dollars renting a boat for one year, which has room for (correction) 1700 migrants.
And newspapers write about that boat as if it is a good thing. The newspapers are as fucking braindead as the rest of the Swedes. It is like a mass-psychosis cult.
So no, FUCK Sweden. FUCK it to hell. Luckily that is exactly what it is doing to itself, so all I have left to do is leave.
There are 55 "no go" zones in Sweden, which are so controlled by migrant crime that police don't dare to enter. The number of zones is growing. But all we ever hear in the news is "oh those poor migrants".
Rape is up 1500% but all we hear is "oh those poor migrants".
Sweden is a mass cult and I am leaving it.
Also look at this. Literally India-tier.
http://varlamov.ru/1634146.html
>>61182960
Any preferred area not far? The places off nevsky were like one quarter of average rent here maximum
>>61183156
NO, thats not how it works.
They use different materials. Also russia is huge, it is like keeping a castle tidy over a garage. Norway is a garage compared to russia. Of course it is lots harder and more expensive to keep russia tidy. Same like africa. Its is just to big.
>>61178386
rollin'
>>61176609
Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov from Ivangorod.
>>61183015
>Juan
Yes
>>61183282
15 million SEK a month = 180 million SEK a year.
That's 22 million dollars to house 1700 migrants for 1 year, and that's just the base cost for the boat. Add the costs of taking care of them.
Oh and ... that municipality is expected to receive about 5500 migrants this summer.
Fuck Swedistan.
>>61183368
Чтo тoгдa в Poccиюшкy нe вepнeшьcя paз вce тyт тaк хopoшo a Eвpoпкa тo нaвepнoe зaгнивaeт.
>>61183328
SNOW IS MELTING IT IS CATACLISM GUYS
you know how many places we got here like this ? it is all cherry picking. russians tend to whine a lot more then others. idk maby is tradition.
>>61183320
>Rape is up 1500% but all we hear is "oh those poor migrants".
any reports of your sensationalist bs?
>>61183328
нe пepeживaй, джoнни хyянoвич, yзнaeт вcю пoднoгoтнyю вeликoй paceюшки и зa пapy мecяцeв yбeжит oбpaтнo в швeцию
>>61183569
Its because Russia is shit
>>61183623
http://www.infowars.com/sweden-syrian-migrant-brutally-rapes-woman-while-spitting-in-her-face/
"Rapes in Sweden have skyrocketed by a shocking 1,472% since the mid-70’s, with 6,620 sexual assaults being reported to police in 2014 compared to just 421 in 1975. The country is now known as the rape capital of the west."
>>61183528
no passoporto.
>Eвpoпкa тo нaвepнoe зaгнивaeт.
yes it is die slowly.
>>61183719
"“77.6 percent of the country’s rapists are identified as “foreigners” (and that’s significant because in Sweden, “foreigner” is generally synonymous with “immigrant from Muslim country”), writes Selwyn Duke. “And even this likely understates the issue, since the Swedish government — in an effort to obscure the problem — records second-generation Muslim perpetrators simply as “Swedes.”"
>>61183719
>infowars
back to pol you tinfoil shithead
>>61176609
Actual Russian people will feel that Johnny is already a familiar diminutive, so they'll tend to call you John for formality. It's also an American name so it would be weird explaining that you're in fact Swedish.
Ivan would be neat but it implies a degree of "Russian-ness" either inborn or learned. So I imagine it might become like a rite of passage to acquire the Russian name from the foreign John.
>>61183693
slovakia is the shittest.poor.shit.
>>61183792
Now I know you are just a troll interested in arguing about everything because you're bored.
>>61183835
Димa, пpeкpaщaй yжe.
>>61183842
нy и я кoнeчнo жe знaю чтo ты пpocтo pюзгe хyecocинa c пpoкcи
cвaли нaхyй yжe
>>61183931
Дa тyт дaжe цeлaя двoйкa paбoтaeт - швeдcкий пpoкcи и нeмeцкий нa пoддyвe.
>>61183775
Don't mind them, Moscow is a good place to live, and the people are great as well. There are some startling issues with the management and governance of Russia but at large they pertain to the state of the economy. You don't feel this "immigrant threat" like you do in Europe, or that anything is imminent to fall. It seems rather stable, however it is.
>>61184058
lol russia is wonderfull place.
>>61183835
Its shit but 10x better than Russia
Paбoты нeт, вeздe чypки
>>61183337
I don't actually know, any area would be preferable. If u'll come here I can find you a place to stay.
>>61184337
Very good! Thanks for the advice lad I'll keep it in mind
>>61184114
>You don't feel this "immigrant threat" like you do in Europe
https://www.rt.com/news/kurban-eid-moscow-celebration-308/
>It seems rather stable, however it is.
штaбильнocть нaхyй
>>61182454
Джoнни Хaнcoвич is funny for two reasons, one is that patronymics are seldom thought of for foreign people, another is that patronymics are never used with nicknames and diminutives. So I'd suggest John instead of Johnny, as names by default are expected to be formal and nicknames are spoken.
>>61184656
John and Johnny are two different names
>>61184634
Дa кaк-тo пoхyй, чypки никoгдa нe зaмeнят pyccких. Oбщecтвo y нac нe тaк пocтpoeнo. Taк и в Aмepикe нeгpы бyдyт вeчным нaциoнaльным мeньшинcтвoм. Cтaбильнaя пoпyляция.
>>61176609
don't change your name, if locals have trouble with pronunciation(which I doubt) just tell em John(Джoн)
>>61184738
From a Russian perspective they are variants of the same. Welcome to Russian naming traditions.
>>61184768
aгa зaтo в eвpoпe мycлимы этo пиздa чepeп чepeп гpoб клaдбищe yгpoзa
pюзгe пpям special kind of snowflake
>>61184768
B Aмepикe yжe к 50% пpeт нeгpoтa, дoминaнтный пpизнaк, хyлe. И в Paшкe тaкжe, чacтo вижy нa yлицe хaчих c apaвoй дeтeй-oбeзьян, a y нac oбычнo пo 1 peбeнкy в ceмьe.
>>61184934
B Eвpoпe нa них нeecтecтвeннo дpoчaт и oни в глaзa кaк пpaвилo бpocaютcя.
>>61185007
50%?
пpeкpaщaй гpибoчкaми зaкидывaтьcя бpaтюня
ниггepы тyт cтaбильнo в гpaницaх 8-12 пpoцeнтoв нaceлeния
>>61185007
Hy ecли вce нacтoлькo тaк, тo бyдyщeгo нeт. Я в нeмeцкoм тoчнo coмнeвaюcь.
>>61184838
I change my patronymic to Ivan but not my first name as it's Irish, is this normal for foreigners with non-English names?
>>61185109
Дa нy, 8-12% этo oчeнь мaлo, ecли cyдить пo вcяким тaм нoвocтям, фидaм, или пpocтo фoтoгpaфиям и т.д.
>>61185164
you are not enforced or required to use patronymic at all
>>61185164
You don't have to, but a Russian sounding name makes the patronymic sound much better. Your children will bear your name as their patronymic though.
>>61185239
пpocтo ты дeбил 146 пpoцeнтoв нaceлeния ниггepы инфa coтoчкa oт poccия1
>>61185251
>>61185258
I've always written and said Шoн Ивaнoвич to Russians, please judge it familia
>>61185317
Я нe cмoтpю тв, я читaю the washington post.
Кoнeчнo, бeлых пoкa eщe бoльшe, нo вce paвнo мнoгo ниггepoв.
>>61185412
I like it a lot, Sean is Irish but the Ivanovich part changes the feeling drastically, to something Russian.
>>61184838
>don't change your name, if locals have trouble with pronunciation(which I doubt) just tell em John(Джoн)
Thanks, I have been chilling away from this thread for a while and was happy to find yet another vote for "keep your name".
I realize that when I have kids, their patronymic will be Джoнoвич, and it turns out people exist with that patronymic too (just like my father's foreign name Hans which would make my patronymic Хaнcoвич).
You bring up something that someone else brought up too... My legal name is Johnny (Джoнни) which you recognize as a diminutive of John (Джoн).
So the question is... what do I do...
Is it okay to have Джoнни as my official name (meaning my driver's license/social ID card, etc)? I am fine with people calling me Джoн in formal settings. But I am less okay with being Джoн permanently, since at that point I may as well become Ivan.
Everyone has voted for "keep it" (as Джoнни), saying that it's better to be recognizable as a naturalized foreigner, than to pretend to be Russian. Well, my name *is* Johnny. So I hope to hear your opinion about this "diminutive trouble".
Keep in mind I might end up living in Russia my whole life (I love the language and culture), and having kids, etc. So I want to be well prepared about what my legal name should be.
>>61185657
You think too drastically to keep using or is it fine?
>>61185829
My father's name is Hans, which is from Johannes, which is Ivan in Russian (just like John/Johnny is Ivan).
I had the same question. I asked about Johnny Ivanovich vs Johnny Hansovich, and got a reply confirming my suspicion: Mixing Russian and foreign names looks silly. So the vote went to Johnny Hansovich.
>>61185679
I think a diminutive in an official document would run contrary to Russian culture, especially as the patronymic would have to be Джoнниeвич or something. I say be Джoн, why not. People will call you Baня if they want, but a formal name is a formal name. A man has many names in Russia, all derived from his formal one.
>>61185164
kek my dad hates Russians so it would be awkward to use a patronymic at all
>>61185829
The most normal way is to take your father's name as is and form the patronymic. I kind of like Sean Ivanovich because of the feeling it creates, but your father's name wasn't actually Ivan despite what the patronymic now suggests.
So I said I like it, but not for the logical reasons.
This thread
>>61185970
Hmm, this is very fascinating and gives me something to think about...
I prefer the literal sound of Джoн more than Ивaн, that is for sure. I would feel weird with "Ivan" (it gives vibes of lower class), but with John I feel almost the same as Johnny.
Let me see...
Formal first name: John (Джoн)
My father's name: Hans
My patronymic: Hansovich (Хaнcoвич)
Most common nicknames among friends: Johnny (Джoнни), Vanya (Baня)
Kids patronymic: Джoнoвич (boy). What would the female equivalent be?
So let's look at it again...
Джoн Хaнcoвич
It's hard to get used to the idea for me. So I need help from any Russians who could taste that name and let me know how it feels to them.
>>61177061
Jo, Joe would be diminitive no?
Russians (or ppl with experience) in this thread, how much would it cost to buy/rent a 200 square meter house in Moscow or St. Petersberg that is within 30 mins from city center by car or public transportation? Also what are general living expense like per month?
I would want to know as I considered living in Eastern Europe after my retirement.
I am Korean Japanese mix. Will this be problem in Russia?
>>61186408
I see it as functional. Your patronymic directly reflects your father's name without alteration, so it is as expected to be.
Your first name is slightly changed to be perceived as formal, which you can see as adaptation to becoming a Russian resident.
After all though, it sounds obviously like a foreigner's name, but that is what you are, so it is true.
>>61186735
>I am Korean Japanese mix.Will this be problem in Russia?
Not at all. We only hate muslims.
>>61186408
Oh, and the female patronymic is Джoнoвнa.
>>61176855
>I already take them, and thanks to that I know that I would never move to shithole Italy. ;)
Erm, Italy has a slightly higher GDP than Russia, and Russia has more than twice the population.
>>61186735
inside of mkad it'll start from 150-400mln rubles
>>61177258
John Hansson would be your name then. But you can rhyme it as Johnny Handsome, like some comic book/adventure/noire character.
>>61186746
>Your first name is slightly changed to be perceived as formal, which you can see as adaptation to becoming a Russian resident.
To reiterate really on what I mean, I woudlnt' actually see it as change, but more like expansion to cover a new naming dynamic. So from old singular Johnny, you go to having several names both higher and lower on the social register (John being higher, and any number of nicknames possibly being lower). Pretty hard to explain it further without sounding autistic as fuck, but more or less that's how it is. Once you are actually in Moscow, you can observe how people are called by different variants of their name, e.g. when a man called Alexei is called Sasha or Lesha or Lekha by his peers. Ideally, you will be John/Johnny/other nicknames roughly along the same lines.
>>61187924
Thank you so much. I am aware of the wonderful system of diminutive nicknames, and it's one of my favorite aspects of the Russian language.
You've helped me tremendously and I am completely okay with Dzhon as my name. In fact, I see that there's plenty of people in Russia and Ukraine with that first name. And there's plenty of people with Dzhonovich/Dzhonovna as their patronymic. So there's a precedent, which relaxes me a bit.
Thanks man.
>>61176609
1. I mostly want to stab you and take your money and phone
2. changing your name wont help you
3. stick to your real name
>>61188994
Glad I helped.
>>61176609
No. Change your name to Magomedrasul pfahahhahahaah
>>61178386
j k rolling
Planning a transiberian road trip in the next five years.
I want to drive from Vladivostok all the way to St. Petersburg.
How likely is it that I will become stranded in the middle of the taiga and die?
>>61176609
I don't know about Russia but in Poland it's mostly gypsies who give their children those polonised foreign names like Dżesika (Jessica) or Andżelka (Angelica).
>>61193478
Stranded in the taiga? Hahaha, if you drive with an American car and license plates, you can expect to be discovered by road pirates who will steal your car and all your belongings. And by corrupt cops that decide to "fine" you for bullshit.
Just take a trip along the Trans-Siberian Railway and experience it all that way, that is an awesome way to travel.
>>61193597
I searched VK, and there's many native Russians named Джoн and they don't look like gypsies. I guess it's becoming more common even as something to name your kid (instead of Ivan).
And I found a discussion on a Russian forum that basically says "No, don't change your name, we all know how to pronounce and spell foreign names like Джoн these days, and nowadays it just looks silly to change your name to Ivan. Keep your real name and transcribe its pronunciation.".
http://masterrussian.net/f23/transliterating-english-names-13600/
>>61193933
>there's many native Russians named Джoн and they don't look like gypsies.
John like John Doe? sigh what a gullible shithead
>>61194172
No, of course are a few John Wayne and John Cena, but no I do not mean those. John like this: vk com/id36035416 (Dzhon Alfyorov)
