People of other countries, especially EU countries, how is the Brexit being reported on your news? Is it a big story? Do people care? How have your prime ministers/presidents reacted and what have they said about it?
Just curious.
It is briefly mentioned for 8 seconds saying nothing other than it is a thing.
Then it's followed by a 5 minute piece on one of the Royals taking a shit
>>61156433
>Is it a big story?
Yeah, it has been on the news for the last couple of weeks.
>Do people care?
Not much. I don't live in a touristic area so it doesn't affect us.
>How have your prime ministers/presidents reacted and what have they said about it?
I don't pay attention to that retarded faggot. He and his party are a bunch of mafiosi incompetents.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/22/spanish-minister-accused-of-conspiring-against-political-rivals
It's not mentioned on local news but they talked about it on world news. Obama thinks staying is what's best. Probably because it's easier to control a united Europe than individual countries.
>>61156433
>Is it a big story?
yes
>Do people care?
People don't care about anything here. Apart from people from the clothes industry. They would benefit A LOT by your leave
>How have your PM reacted?
in the only logical way: telling you to stay in
no fucks given
>>61156635
Why would your clothing industry benefit if we left?
>>61156433
>Is it a big story?
Not really we just had election in several major cities.
>Do people care?
Not particularly
>How have your prime ministers/presidents reacted and what have they said about it?
I have no doubt he said something since he craves every tiniest moment of media exposure
>>61156685
You're one of our major competitors in that field. If you leave the union, other european countrieswill want to trade with us if able to choose
It's barely being reported at all. The first article I saw about it is from yesterday and it was about how staying in the EU meant a better free trade agreement with Canada
>>61156433
People who are interested in international affairs are quite worried as it seems you are going to shoot your own foot. Me too.
Yes. Media coverage is quite extensive here. Special TV programs tonight included.
Spanish media and establishment are massively pro remain.
Being said this, common people don't care about much more than the Eurocup. It's seen as a distant issue that doesn't quite affect us much
>>61156433
not a big deal over here
>>61156681
UK is remaining in the EU anyway. Brits don't know what's best for them.
>>61156829
>>61156635
>>61156530
Surprised it's getting much coverage in Spain and Italy, thought maybe northern yurop countries would be more interested and thought you southerners wouldn't care about us.
>how is the Brexit being reported on your news?
Pretty important thing, one of the "unes", top news.
>Do people care?
Actualy, yes. Besides the fact that it's an historic moment, most people don't want to UK to leave.
>How have your prime ministers/presidents reacted
I said to your gov : "don't leave".
>>61157087
Even France wants us to stay? :3
I thought Europe would be like "lel fuck off brits"
>there are Britbongs who vote for remaining in the EU
unKANKERbelievable
I don't know because I don't watch TV.
Most people aren't too educated on british politics.
We know you're buthurt about our gypos going to the UK, but that's about it.
>>61156433
I only know about it through meme pages desu
>>61157136
Not really. Brexit should be harmful for both EU cunts and UK.
everyone's at the beach here
>>61156433
The Brexit is presented as an irrational, uneducated choice, driven by nostalgia and populism.
"Wrongly informed, emotionally distressed" is the literal headline of ZEIT.de (comparable to Guardian) right now:
http://www.zeit.de/index
>>61157136
that's just because the current french government is pro-EU, as it is ours
>>61157136
we have an intensive media brainwashing about it
>>61156948
But you do? Fucking lol
>>61156433
The news have been going on about it for a few weeks now. It's somewhat of a big story considering how it might affect the future of EU. There are people who care and people who don't. Our ministers and politicians are mostly against leaving, because muh strong EU
>>61157245
it's true, that's exactly what it is
>>61157245
>irrational, uneducated choice, driven by nostalgia and populism.
What part of that is wrong?
>>61156948
>Be American
>get shot
>>61157245
>The Brexit is presented as an irrational, uneducated choice, driven by nostalgia and populism.
So German news tells the truth?
Impressive.
>>61156433
It won't become something majorly reported unless you leave. Plus, the Orlando shooting and Democrat sit in is the major thing right now
>all the "hurr britain collapses if they leave durr no more trade" ITT
Hi shills! How about the fact that EU is not democratic and aims to become a federal union?
From our state run news:
>oy vey those selfish racist nazi brits might crash the world economy with no surviviors! the pound is ruined!
>RIP strong indepent womyn mp killed by evil white right wing nazi british male
>look at these cherry picked clips showing how silly and inept boris johnson and nigel farage are!
>look at these cool celebrities who endorse remain!
>>61157322
hmm.. or maybe, just maybe it's deeper than that. we are the UK, have Common Law, haven't been invaded for nearly a thousand years etc.
I'm not saying there is a Little Englander element to it, but it's part of our national psyche mate. It's not just a bunch of rorkes wishing for the good old days of Empire.
>>61157347
i love how the US cares about its own shit first and foremost. german media acts like we do not have any problems and have to sympathize with the rest of the world instead.
>>61157357
Reported by the EU for hate speech.
>>61157322
>>61157328
>>61157340
Calm down with the shilling Juncker, one reply is enough.
>>61157357
I'm fine with that actually
our news say that eu is gonna collapse (implying) if brexir happens
>how is the Brexit being reported on your news?
Every media demonises the possible Brexit, "it would hurt the entire world", "it could rapresent the beginning of the end of the big european project", "both EU and UK will lose money and power from it" etc. At the same time they day that it won't be a great damage for Italy.
>it Is it a big story?
Yes during the last 2 weeks every media spoke about brexit
>Do people care?
Most of them don't seem to care too much about brexit then we have lefties who don't want it and the far right parties who beg you to leave.
>How have your prime ministers/presidents reacted and what have they said about it?
He wants you to remain of course.
Yes it's a big story. All media are shilling hard against Brexit of course.
>>61157357
>How about the fact that EU is not democratic and aims to become a federal union?
We have an exemption from "ever closer union". It will be written into law
>>61156433
Our country funded news report literally only arguments for staying. The only retort they showed, was Boris Johnson saying they are basically fearmongering of what will happen if they leave.
>out of EU
>>61157396
>muh contrerianism
>>61157374
that's exactly what it is
>BRITAIN STRONK
>MUH EMPIRE
>>61157375
Sometimes it can get weird though. We'll be so wrapped up in something that when a big thing happens in Europe it catches us off guard. We basically do the equivalent of your neighbor hearing commotion and stepping out on the deck to shout "what the fuck is going on out there!?"
>>61156433
Brexit is huge and every publication is openly begging Britain to stay.
Personally I'm torn on the matter. I genuinly believe EU-membership is better for most people in the UK. But I'd also like to see what the EU can do without british obstructionism and the US influence that comes through them.
>>61157595
is this the % that supporters their own nations exit, or brexit?
>>61157626
no it's not you're a fucking idiot. just because the right are the loudest does not mean they are the only people going for it.. there's a strong left/socialist argument to be made.
>>61156685
The England clothes industry will pay duty taxes in the rest of EU and the italy clothes industry not.
That's the fact.
>>61157669
>no it's not
yes it is, there is literally no benefit to leaving the EU
>>61157648
I think stay is better long term while leave will let us see something in our lifetimes.
>>61157684
What if we do a free trade agreement?
>>61157750
Like joining the EU?
>>61157715
that's like.. your opinion man.
what about killing the european project? or if not outright killing it, untangling ourself from it's clutches before it's too late?
seriously fuck you. I'm not a poltard and did not take my responsibility of voting lightly. I was very conflicted about it, but to say "there is literally no benefit" -- either KYS or >>>/reddit/ & post some dank 'leave = raciss' memes.
>>61156433
media has been reporting that people of the UK are just idiots as well as Murricans. how can you live off after "leave"?
It's apparently a terrible thing. (Norway in France here, btw.)
>>61157750
A free trade agreement would only be accepted if we agree to EU rules and regulations, i.e. the ones we follow now to be members.
We don't want to be like Norway, following EU rules while having no say in the making of said rules. That would be stupid as fuck
>>61157715
B-BUT THE EVIL EUROCRATS R BRINGIN THE BRITISH MAN DOWN
>>61157750
That's literally what the EU is. It comes with some additional requisites though...
>>61157797
>>61157814
No that's a single market which is different.
I'm saying the UK does a free trade agreement in the sense that Canada does.
>>61157801
Brits are a special kind of idiot my slopey friend
>>61156433
Plz leave already
>>61157798
It's not my opinion it's a fact, not one single person has pointed out a single factually based tangible benefit to leaving the EU
>BRITAIN STRONK
>>61157840
You don't want single market access? Canada's deal with the EU is shit and it took forever too.
Single market access if vital for our prosperity. If you don't care about that then I don't know what to say to you, I care about my country but you seemingly don't
>>61156433
Not in the biggest headlines. Among the other news like:
>Bogus doctor gets 4½ year sentence.
>A minister has lied again
>What does Huutokauppakeisari (Our version of Pawn Shop Rick) look like when he was 25
Not much media coverage here in Kosovo. Probably because a weakened EU means our corrupt politicians would lose their grip on the government without direct EU intervention.
>>61157923
I want you to leave so I can see the lives of the stupid fucking British working class idiots that voted leave get noticeably worse because of the dumbass decision they made
I love when poor uneducated people fuck themselves over, would also get to make fun of you nonstop here, so please brexit
Fuck you and your dipshit country
>>61158006
probably because you don't have any fuctioning technology with which to produce media or indeed the training needed to use it
>>61158050
Whatever you say Pajeet.
>>61158041
haha how can you be so mad about some people you don't know from a country thousands of miles away? literally pathetic
>>61156433
Let me translate some headlines:
>Britannia decides
>There is already swarming over the carcass of Britannia
>Finnish politicians afraid: Brexit would confuse Europa
>Spain heading towards new political dead end - The new elections have been overshadowed by Brexit
>>61158089
>implying this isn't the case with Europeans regarding Americans literally all the time
Again, please drive your country into the ground so I can laugh
I want you to leave because it might help kill the EU.
>>61158041
>yet American working class idiots keep voting Republicans
>>61158171
This. And they are going to fuck it up for us.
>>61157924
>single market access
It's good but it means free movement of labour and many people say that's keeping wages down.
>>61158151
>he quite literally can't handle the banter and sperged out on a siberian basket weaving board
>>61158076
t. Mohammed
UK are Swedens largest political ally in the EU, we always vote the same. So you exiting is big news for Sweden and probably great for the EU since we would have less influence on it. So EU citizens may be allowed to continue peeing standing if you exit.
>>61158195
If they do not vote leave I am going to start slashing the tires on cars of British tourists as revenge.
>>61158191
>yet we're still the words economic superpower
Hey maybe if you Brits leave the EU you will be too! Leave leave leave!
>>61158240
You think there isn't actual animosity toward the US all over Europe? You're an idiot if so, your entire continent is heading toward the dump and all I can do is laugh
>>61158271
Wrong number mate, I'm not your wife's boyfriend.
>>61158297
Then they might start slashing French tires as revenge but they aren't allowed to have knives lmao
My news was pretended to be non-bias but was very pro-remain
I don't know why
>>61156978
It's just the 2 minutes report to fill the news. Mostly they talk about some weird shit pros and against did or something said by the EU.
>>61158297
I will declare war on Britain if they stay in the EU.
Also this fucking pic says everything about them.
>>61158332
>>61158271
watch out albania is outta control
>>61158357
lol!!!
>>61156530
Once UK leaves you can strangle Gibraltar into submission, by just closing the borders.
>>61156433
It's a big thing over here. All the leftist (= all ) media Think it's a bad idea. But afd supports the Britains case!
Pro Europeans are traitors!
If you leave the union others will follow! It's not like you will be alone outside the EU.
I hope Britain will get the chance to exit. They have proved time and time again that they are fully capable of resurrecting their old empire and I'm sure that only the fact that they're in the EU is holding them back from doing so.
>>61158562
>Once UK leaves you can strangle Gibraltar into submission, by just closing the borders.
Calm down Adolf. Not this shit again.
>>61157357
Brittain wouln't be the only country that leaved the union.
Remember the Soviet Union?
There is no disadvantage from leaving. There is for sure no disadvantage from beeing the first of many.
If UK leaves it will be the European Avantguarde.
>>61158619
If I were spain I would close Gibraltar borders right the day the UK left.
It's the law.
>>61158754
in that case I would love to see a RN presence enforcing Gibraltars territorial waters in line with international law
>>61158799
Internationallaw says 12 kilometers for every one doesn't it?
International law counts for Marocko, Spain and UK.
You can't overlap.
Thats marrocko and UK.
>>61159169
The UK could respond by enforcing its Gibraltan waters very strictly, which would mean that boats would have to pass by Moroccan waters and theyre not exactly known for being very nice
>>61157357
Which EU institution is undemocratic?
>>61158235
you know what else keeps wages down?
shrinking economy
>>61158041
this!
Democracy at work. People getting what they deserve
>>61159574
Go fuck yourself. With a cactus.
>>61159807
I love how people who claim EU is undemorcatic have no idea how the EU works in the first place
>>61159839
It's funny how people are basing their politics more and more on emotion. Like a bunch of women.
>>61159839
Did Merkel told you that? Or was it Juncker?
>>61156433
> how is the Brexit being reported on your news?
its a very neutrality.
japanese TV and newspaper reported bad side and good side of the EU.
good side: freedom of border, EU has removed customs.
bad side: if the UK leaving EU, UK economy be shrinking.
but i dont think so about "bad side".
the UK pay for EU. if leaving it, UK can be use money in the your country.
also, i dont like EU basic principles.
that means eliminating of border and sovereign state.
in the future, finance, economy, military.. they all entrust this for the EU.
but germans have decisive power in EU. in other words, EU is German colony.
>>61156433
Big story is, but it lacks good news and it is some new to talk about.
For Serbs it is the question if Brits leave
1)Why the fuck do we want that?
Does Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania lives better?
2)Majority actualy want EU laws to somehow stop all those coruption and crimes, and we need EU but are we going to sink under the radar now if Brits leave, your resign from EU will change somehow climate for us, thats the main news and question, HOW and WHEN?
>Do people care
No, if you have 500comments and TOP news, here you got like 10-50comments on brexit and its more diaspora. No one gives a fuck (thats actualy in our mentality to not give a fuck about others).
And I dont thing some politicians said anything, just diplomats.
>>61159948
go ahead, tell me which EU institution is undemocratic
Hail Elizabeth! Hail George VI! Hail Victoria!
I pray for Britain and their great Majesty
i think, many country can not receive benefit by the EU.
currency of EURO has fixed exchange rate.
one country in EU using that. it country made good export industry grow.
that is improper means.
and therefore, UK must be destroy the EU.
>>61159948
>>61160023
anon asked you a question
>say this to every exit shitter
>works every time
>>61156433
>is it a big story
No even with us right next to you it doesn't effect us besides rural budget lowering slightly but that's absolutely fine. It's mentioned on sky news all the time but that's it.
>do people care
No we couldn't care less.
>have they reacted
I heard ours wants you to remain but that's only because we suffer a small loss which would be annoying to fix when there is more pressing matters,to handle.
>>61161085
aren't you worried about a border being erected in the north?
>is it a big story
Somewhat but not really. It's ancillary international and business news.
>do people care
My roommate took most of his money out of the markets in the lead up.
>have they reacted
Obama wants the UK to stay
>>61160023
the european comission
>>61156433
nobody irl cares 2bgh though media cares.
>>61156433
>Is it a big story?
Yes. Each medium published 5 articles on the average day with doomsday scenarios.
>>61156948
this
>>61156606
Funny how the leader of a nation founded on the ideal of representation doesn't want to support another nation that wants the same thing
>>61156433
Mainly talk about what it means for the economy and stock markets here. I'm sure that'll surprise a lot of you.
It's being reported on at near top-of-page kinda importance, but not the most.
>>61161248
No.
>>61161648
And they are appointed by a councile of the head of states of European nations.
It is as undemocratic as a the polish head of states appointing his ministers
>>61157374
>we are the UK, have Common Law, haven't been invaded for nearly a thousand years etc
>I'm not saying there is a Little Englander element to it,
hmmm
>>61156433
Yeah its the story number one for sure
Headline in every newspaper
All articles said how leave campaign and brexit overall is stupid and how it would hurt european economy
First prediction is -0,2% of GDP for 2017
>>61159285
talk about that to the USA.
For me it's ok to close that street.
I hope you leave so that we can get Gibraltar back
>>61158319
>You think there isn't actual animosity toward the US all over Europe? You're an idiot if so, your entire continent is heading toward the dump and all I can do is laugh
t. Never left his country and thinks internet memes are real
You'd be absolutely fine as an american in europe
>>61162015
Pm, president is for remain and people talk about it a lot
>>61162071
lo siento, pero gibraltar es britanico siempre
Americans that have an opinion on leave or stay, what is your thought on NAFTA?
Do you see direct parallels between it and the EU?
>>61161962
I meant I'm not saying there ISN'T an element of..
But your comment probably works either way, lol.
>>61161851
I wonder. Do you look at yourselfs the sameway we are stereotyping your people?
>>61156433
NPR is super biased, but Georgia Talk Radio is really open on both sides, pulling quotes from both Cameron and the other side. Obviously, they give their own opinion (leave), but they show the arguments of both sides.
>>61162015
Also Hungary is a traitor to the right. How can anyone whish UK to remain in the EU-Jail?
>>61162142
As if you would stay in a political union with spain.
Tomorrow it's all gone.
>>61162186
I don't want to derail this thread, but the answer is yes we have lots of overlapping stereotypes of what you guys think of us and what we think of ourselves. the more lighthearted stuff at least, not the batshit crazy /pol/-tier stuff.
>>61162337
what? do you even know what gibraltar is?
>>61162660
It's this land tounge that will be cut from all access to the spain once you leave. that means. No sweet water, no electricity, no transports, no visits.
And you harm Spain 0% by closing the Gibraltar street, they might propably open their own version of a suez channel and make a big business.
Spain has easy access to both sides of the Gibraltar street.
>>61163048
ah yes and then the four hoursemen will draw in and the apocalypse will be upon us
snap out of your fucking fantasy hans
>>61163173
Fuck you, pirate
It's the biggest story right now, people care a little bit, mainly people that dislike/hate the EU and want it to collapse/disappear, they will see it as a big victory if brexit happens
idk about the PM, I don't pay attention to what she says anymore
https://www.reddit.com/r/polandball/comments/4pfw8d/britains_will/
>>61156433
Here is fairly talked about, mainly because of tourism, also my facebook feed gets flooded with it from time to time because I have a few friends who emigrated there
My view might not be the most acurate though, as I dont have a tv/ dont really follow the news
>>61163048
why the fuck would they make a canal to bypass gibraltar
how would that make any kinda of money
are you fucking high heinrich
>>61163173
No then you will have to super expensively support Gibraltar! And it will also be useless.
Think about the cost of enforcing the the international water not beeing violated alone!
>>61163240
Bring it on you little bitch
Heard it on the radio. Remain winning in the polls. Alot of bad weather so this might work in favor of leave since they are more willing to vote.
Thats it so far
>>61163460
If the Brittish close the street of Gibraltar, and the Marroco Government also does (as in the Brittish dudes scenario) every ship has to pass a new channel build in Spain ( as EU infrastructure project or by private investors) .
Suez channel makes Egypt big money. gibralter Channel will too.
p.s.
Shouldn't Jews know how makeing money works?
Are you somehow the black sheep of your family.
>>61163240
The Brittish will return Gibraltar!
They will even pay for Spain to take it back.
>>61163511
do you remember the falklands lad? can you imagine the expense of flying halfway around the world to fight and eject an occupying force on our island?
That's how seriously we take protecting our overseas citizens. Protecting Gibraltar is smalltime in comparison
Who else is going to Great™ Britain to claim benefits after they don't leave?
I love you brits, pls pay for my NEET lifestyle, my country is too shitty to do it.
>>61156433
>Probably biggest story
>People care because muh trade
>Our entire political system is shilling for remain
>Is it a big story
Yes
>How have your prime ministers/presidents reacted and what have they said about it?
They think that brexit is contained and wont have a domino effect.
>how is the Brexit being reported on your news
Bunch of ignorant workers are going against their own good while being controlled by british "media"
Farage is going to pogostick himself to power and fuck over the poor
>>61157357
no problem with that
>>61163653
in the event that britain magically turns into a fucking hostile state with closed borders to identified trade ships, maybe they can travel through the huge fucking gap that is still there.
whos gonna pay top dollar to shave like 20kms off the journey.
if you think a canal around fucking gibraltar is gonna make you money, i've got a monorail to sell you.
>>61163460
>are you fucking high heinrich
I'm happy and glad. I'm not looking for a fight.
I broadened my mind by narrowing my stock of kush.
I'm in perfect balance!
anti-EU people think "man the brits are trying to leave that shitty union while were the idiots trying to get in" kek
I don't like much of what the EU stands for, so I hope based Farage succeeds and throws islamic caliphate of Brussels in a panic
>>61163810
The poor are the people who will benefit most from leaving, particularly long term. Wages will rise, there'll be more reason to spend more money on training natives, no floods of immigrants that outclass native workers in both effort and experience.
>>61163745
The spanish wouldn't do anything but protecting their own boarders.
It's their right to close them.
It's not up to them to keep YOUR gibraltar alive.
It's up to you.
There is no issue at all.
You can't expect electricity, open boarders, sweet water and what not from random countries.
You have to supply Gibralter on your own...like you do with the Falklands...
>>61164008
why would wages rise?
Entertain me with your logic
>>61164067
why is this utterly retarded hypothetical scenario being debated? are you fucking 15 and just discovering geopolitics?
>>61164008
>thinking this is how all that works
>falling for the boogyman ploy
oldest and still the most effective form of mob control
8/8 b8 m8
>>61163902
We should just build a dam and make everyone else pay for it.
>>61163902
Cool.
Ok your money instincts are much better then mine.
So the UK guy was bluffing and I felt for it.
Gibraltar realy is a lost cause for the UK if they leave the EU.
Especially if Spain enforces their territorial waters by international law and bans UK ships.
with additionally ban of UK planes from spanish airspace the routes to fly will be super ridiculous
>>61164149
Basically.
If you're blue collar poor chap from a rich country, why the fuck won't you leave? They EU is "meh" tier for me, we are with Serbian tier wages even after 9 years in the EU, so it's "whatever" for me.
But EU means more completion for you on the job market from fuckers from eastern and southern Europe. There is no benefit for you there, only for the rich.
Also people from the 3rd world with amazing 70% unemployment, the EU is not responsible for them, your own fucking government imported them ,but the EU will push for more of them in the future for sure.
So there is no benefit for you.
>>61164331
*competition, not completion
Fuck auto-correct.
>>61164331
serbian tier wages
how were they before?
>>61164331
most remain people I know are limousine leftist students with well off mummys and daddys, who like to preach to me about how it'll be so much better in my favour, despite them not knowing shit about the EU
Fucking cunts
We had the same wage grow rate with them even before the EU, so the EU is not helping at all in that department.
The EU is just giving money for meme projects like bicycle lines, that no one is using. I think they are just laundering money with that shit and don't care about our "infrastructure". So even the "free money" for our whole market is useless.
>>61164737
well at least you can send your gypsies to western europe i guess
>>61164737
>poortugal
holy fuck the memes are real, didn't realise they were that much worse off than the rest of the west
>>61162151
Bump
>>61164825
Not really, they can kick them back after they won't work.
The EU and lefties don't have a fetish for gypsies like they do for arabs and blacks.
>>61164987
wtf, but they're EU citizens, they can kick them back?
>>61165018
not yet but the new deal with Cameron should allow them to do it, if/when it gets passed
>>61164937
I think your Southern european immigration is even bigger than your Eastern european one, because of their insane 25% unemployment. Don't just look at the wages. I don't know why good old Nigel is also not talking about them.
>>61165075
I mean not particularly the UK, other EU states
if gypsies from EU states which are EU citizens go to Germany/France etc, they have the option to kick em out if they don't work?
>>61165018
>>61165075
Not really, you can kick them out after they don't work after 3 months even now.
>>61163979
>Macedonian intellectuals
>>61165218
never claimed to be an expert desu, just that the longer were kept out of the EU the more people get skeptical about it is how people around here feel, my dad says "man I can't wait for brits to leave after that what will brussels smartasses do" :DD
>>61162151
NAFTA lacks the free movement of labor provisions, and a lot of regulatory authority.
I wouldn't mind seeing a weak pan-American Union to coordinate immigration policies and encourage bringing manufacturing back from Asia to the New World, to be honest.
>>61165282
well EU started that way as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Community
>>61165139
yeah you're right rechecked
the new deal only added a couple of more conditions on when they can be prevent access or deported and it's mainly to do with safety
>>61165282
True, how do you think the actual trade agreement has affected your country personally, what about your neighbors?
do you see it as positive or detrimental? or neither, i'm sure much like the EU it's got it's own good and bad
The debate between Boris Johnson and the kebab was reported on the news and radio today.
Everyone in my family except for me thinks they should stay. My dad and brother are not registered to vote fortunately.
He wants Scotland to become independent and join the EU of their own accord.
>>61157136
Are you kidding? Everyone wants you to stay to leech your hundreds of millions of EU contributions
>>61165656
Fucking this
Also the euro is a disaster and they don't even use it
Over stretched NHS with thousands of new customer every week
Being lectured on morality by fucking Germans
Why stay?
What is the current climate in the Netherlands atm? It seems like the Ukraine-EU trade deal has pushed more people to be EU-skeptic.
What would a UK leave mean for the NL?
>>61164737
Average wage maps are trash, because you have countries like USA, Russia and the UK with huge wage inequality. So if you put one billionaire with 10 average workers working for 1000$ per month, you get much bigger average wage.
Here is a better map.
>>61165852
>pintprice
whose pint price? beer here is much cheaper than in most neighbouring countries for instance
2 l of shitty skopsko in a plastic bottle is 1$
>>61165976
the pintprice list is bullshit, no idea where it gets its data from
it has belgium inexplicably low but i've been there and beer prices are in line with other major european countries
>>61165839
Actually they lost 8.5 billion pounds in 2015, which includes the subtractions of what they got back (and can't decide what to do with it)
But they will lose more if they leave, which is certain, at least for a short term.
EU has them in a great deadlock.
>>61165656
It doesn't make sense for the UK to isolate itself from Europe.
>>61161931
>It is as undemocratic as a the polish head of states appointing his ministers
Too bad this head of state cannot remove the Commissioners afterwards, like he does with his ministers!
Too bad the subsequent European legislation is also superior to any national legislation wanted by this head of state!
Your comparison is invalid, try shilling better next time!
>>61164267
I'm working a low level job that is suited for the working class right now over the summer. And at least 70% of workers are foreign in some way. Either Spanish, Polish/Lithuanian/Latvian/Romanian/Other Eastern Europeans, and recently numbers of idiot Sudanese/Somali/Ethiopian and other East Africans have fucking skyrocketed.
To say that there isn't an influx of unskilled migrant workers is wrong.
>>61156433
Many people in Barcelona are following it with interest. I even heard people talking about it in the street, yesterday.
Also, independentists are specially interested. They are going to use it as an example of a democratical recovery of sovereignity
>>61156433
how much time until the results?
>>61167037
It won't be until tomorrow morning at least.
>>61166648
Also, poor EU countries get literally killed by the EU. Their population is vanishing at alarming rates. See Portugal:
>Portugal has the highest emigration rate as a proportion of population in the European Union. More than two million Portuguese people (20% of the population) now live outside the country. It is estimated that more than 485,000 workers left Portugal between 2011 and 2014 to seek better living and working conditions
It's a genocide without deaths, their nation itself will disappear if the trend continues. Old people will die, and will not be replaced since the young will all live in fucking Germany to afford a living. Only retired foreigners and African immigrants will live in "Portugal", ,which could be called Nondescript Colony With No Natives at some point.
>>61156433
Politicians have called you retarded, but it's not a big story. The average amount of press Britain gets.
>>61166919
fuck catalonia indepentists to be quite honest with you
>>61157357
reported to merkel for sowing dissent
enjoy your gulag
>>61167317
I'm a Catalanist (it's not the same thing). Separatists are quite annoying. But the main reason I do not support them is because they are flooding us with immigration (even more than the Spanish central government). And they even call them "new catalans".
They are "cuckseparatists"
>>61167478
Sounds strangely familiar.
>>61167478
I hate them for bitter personal reasons tbf but still, at least we are on the same side
>>61163352
I snorted
>>61167561
:/ I've heard Scottish independentists are similar.
>>61167579
What happened?
>>61167658
it was a girl, it doesn't matter any more but i will always remain bitter towards them
>>61167817
pretty dumb reason to hold a political view famalam
>>61167956
i don't hold a political view, i just get triggered when i hear anything about catalan independence and therefore fuck the separatists
>>61156433
Nobody rearry knows wry you are doing this.
