Why do Americans think this?
>americans will defend this
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/homeland_security_says_ban_internet_anonymity
>>61147174
Thats un-American, Ben Franklin once said “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
meaning that this guy needs to gtfo
>>61147187
>there will be 4chan accounts in your lifetime
>you will have to provide Hiroshimoot with your SSN so Homeland Security will know who you are
>>61147174
I think its contradictory as fuck to the point where I think he was an actual commie false flagging
>>61147174
Sounds like a fascist fuck
i think internet should be surveillance free. """"national security""" should be kept to a minimum but seriously fuck those autists who say you should still be allowed to purchase an AR-15 on a government watch list.
>>61147286
people on the terrorist watch list should not be able to get a gun however that is unconstitutional unless there is a mechanism put in place for people to only get on the watch list with due process.
>>61147286
It's not about purchasing the AR-15, it's about the watchlists having no provisions for appealing your status
There's no due process
>>61147337
just have an appeal process to get off it 2bh
>nations
>security
>personal freedom
>communism
>>61147353
That's what we want
>>61147353
no the problem is that you can't deny someone's rights without due process
>>61147174
It seems that he has the same taste with these.
>>61147358
You don't deserve her
>>61147370
>>61147353
an appeal system would be fine if it was pretty speedy and solved the unconstitutional problem
>>61147174
what are you talking about leafbro? compared to most other first world governments the US government is much more hands off than average. this especially includes freedom of speech. racist speech is in many cases protected speech here.
>>61147208
>That absurd misquotation
http://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century
(Before anyone spergs out about npr, note that the interviewee is from the Brookings Institution)
That article has a good summary, but the gist is that Franklin actually wrote
>Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
by which he meant that the Pennsylvania state assembly should not give up its Liberty to tax residents in return for the Safety of a bribe of militia funding.
It's an argument for how the government shouldn't give up its powers in the face of a minority of loud dissenters claiming special privileges. Kind of like how you're inventing new personal freedoms in an attempt to keep the government from exercising its constitutional authority.
>>61147387
>liberty
>equality
>fraternity
>>61147353
That would be great if it existed, and it's something the democrats proposed, but republicans shot down.
>literally pic related
