Now that the dust has settled, what are your thoughts on modern
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Now that the dust has settled, what are your thoughts on modern Russia?
>>61065202
Pretty based and cool I guess but I would never want to live there.
>>61065202
Pretty based and cool I guess but I would never want to live there.
>>61065202
Americans should have glassed everything east of warsaw when they had the chance.
>>61065202
it's not the hero that we want, but it's the hero that we need
>>61065202
Pretty similar to old Russia 2bh. Backwards, violent and stupid.
>>61065202
Mysterious and interesting from a distance, but the cold hard reality of living there is much less enticing. I may visit one day however.
>>61065202
Bad at football
>>61065222
:D
>>61065202
Utter shit 2bh
Russia is a very nice country and Russians are very nice people, unfortunately Obama destroys their lives everyday.
That's the evidence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua2Z5na50xg
>>61065522
>Polska kurwa
>being Murrica's staunchest bitch
>still needing a visa to visit the P.I.M.P.
>>61065202
>Now that the dust has settled
No it hasn't...
>>61065587
Israel needs visas too. Besides i can't even blame murricans for it, because hundreds of thousands of Poles moved to the USA in 80s/90s illegally on tourist visas, that's why our refusal ratio was so extremely high yet 10 years ago. But now it is barely 6% and after few years will fall under 3% which will enable us to be a member of Visa Waiver Program.
I honestly do not care about any single country besides America
>>61065202
It is worser than USSR tbqhwymg.
The worst part of Russian history.
Dust hasnt settled, 10 years ago relations were much better.
>>61065633
>i can't even blame murricans for it
A bitch is not allowed to criticize the pimp.
>>61065653
Please elaborate
I'm listening
>>61065744
lel
>>61065329
>>61065676
Now you know
The only adequate European politician is Franky S.
>>61065773
Why did you fail then?
Switzerland is 10 times richer than polska kurwa.
>>61065767
USSR was way more democratic than RF, USSR had at least some competition within its single party. Today we have 0 competition.
In USSR the property belonged to the government.
Today it belongs to bandit-oligarchs, who are not even Russian, you can goodle top 100 Forbes Russian billionaires or property holders, 95% of them would not be Russian but some churkas who got the moneys and propery by killing and threatening people. Because law applies only to Russians here, not to minorities.
Also social stuff, I dont think I need to explain that.
And no, I am not a commieboo in any way. it is just RF is so bad.
Gotta go now.
>>61065808
>>61065836
>t. Russian proxy/diaspora/on vacation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxkrMZWRs4s
>>61065836
When Poland was erased from map for 123 years, lost 30% of population in WW2, was turned into ash, and destroyed under 45 years of communism, Switzerland was making money on gold retrieved from killed Polish Jews. If Poland was given a chance of having 100 years of undisturbed capitalist growth, we would be as rich as Switzerland today, unfortunately our adventure with capitalism lasts barely 2 decades.
Moreover, you are richer nominally indeed, you have 5x higher salaries than Poles, but also 3x higher prices, so things get balanced a bit.
The only country i'd actually like to be ruled by.
I wish my dear bydlos and gopniks goodspeed defeating the amerifat menace.
>>61065309
So is england now
>>61065879
>Today we have 0 competition
see United Russia primaries
>95% of them would not be Russian
Russia is a multinational state since... Ivan The Terrible. Deal with it.
It's thanks to Russians that I get to eat pork here.
idgaf about Russia itself though, I just sort of like Russians I guess.
>>61065773
Cringiest shit I'll read today. You poles really have some self esteem traumas and yet again sucking big bully's dick is everything you know.
>>61065895
Southamerican countries love Russia because they know it only from Russia-TV, i guess.
>>61065775
>>61065309
How does it feel to be second place after Wales? A country that the English looks down upon...
>>61065926
>see United Russia primaries
Top kek.
>Russia is a multinational state since... Ivan The Terrible. Deal with it.
It is not. We have 84% ethnic Russians. Next minority is Tatars with only 3.8%.
It is not multinational.
And also, when 84% of population is just 5-10% of billionaires or property holders, hmm.. I think I need not to explain.
Here you are a multinational country.
Bosnia:
Bosniaks 48%
Serbians 33%
Croatians 15%
Yes, this one is multinational.
But I think you are a Putin-boo or just a kremlinbot.
Anyway, got to go.
>>61065893
>Poland was erased from map
You were not even fighting.
>but also 3x higher prices
Poland is cheap indeed.
>>61065202
non-MOBA playing Russians are normally cool people.
>>61065947
>because they know it only from Russia-TV
They tasted murrica's dick for decades.
>>61065947
Depends, do you like the amerifat dick?
I surely don't, and i'm damn tired of it.
>>61065936
>It's thanks to Russians that I get to eat pork here.
kek
>>61066017
>I think I need not to explain.
Russians are losers?
>>61066077
gimme five, bro >>61066066
>>61066077
The only thing i know is that countries that hate the USA are usually very shitty and i wouldn't want to live in their alternative anti-USA world.
>>61065202
Can't wait to see what happens when they collapse
>>61066126
>being Polish
>living in a shitty country
>needing a US entry visa
Still loving it while hating Germany
>>61066188
You are so stupid that you must be a Russian expat.
>>61066185
>>61066106
*gives five*
Based mountain jews. I have no problem getting swindled if it's by you, glorious bastards.
>>61066126
The only thing i know is that countries that hate Russia are usually very salty about communism even though the USSR is gone for good and i wouldn't want to live in their current pro-USA wold.
Can we just switch places already?
>>61066233
while you are still in Polska waiting for a US visa notice
>>61066262
>Can we just switch places already?
Nope, i don't want to live on an isolated continent of poorfags. It is better to be a neighbour of Germany.
>>61065202
It a shit.
>>61066291
>lost 30% of population in WW2
>It is better to be a neighbour of Germany
>>61066291
> i don't want to live on an isolated continent of poorfags
Enjoy being poor too but also an eternal buffer zone for the big guys to carry out their dickwaving tactics, i guess.
>>61065202
I want the US and Russia to have better relations. Now that Russia is no longer gommies there is no reason to be so hostile. We should be working with them to remove kebab, instead we just get butthurt about the Russians removing kebab in Syria without our permission.
Mixed feelings on Putin. He's a bad dude but I can't help but respect him. I have a lot of respect for the few Russian people out there who aren't alcoholics and drug addicts, because it's a tough place to live.
>>61065287
This. Russia is extremely interesting to read about but I'd never live there.
Russia also has the best anthem in the world. Going back to the Soviet anthem was the best decision Putin has ever made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b270ka2eB_4
>>61066392
Back in 90s we were poorer than Colombia, now we are 2x richer thanks to the fact that we are a part of the American influence zone, not Russian one. It would be stupid to resign from a chance of improvement.
>>61066446
I think rather than amerifat influence what helped you was euro influence. We tend to put them together because yuros are basically USA's little goons, but they are supposed to be different.
Perhaps if we got rid of the fat fuckers you guys could all be friends with both EU and Russia?
>>61066545
Europe and even NATO tried to be friends of Russia many times. Unfortunately Russia is not sensitive on our good will, and prefers to change borders in Europe with using military force to being a credible partner
>>61066433
>Going back to the Soviet anthem was the best decision Putin has ever made
What about Crimea?
IMHO it's in the line with his great predecessors starting with Ivan The Terrible till Alexander II
>>61066446
>a part of the American influence zone
Thank you for admitting the truth
Yes, we are not free and you never has been
>>61066569
hey faggot actually nato & eu refused to invite russia
we asked to join
fucking liar like all poles
>>61066569
>Europe and even NATO tried to be friends of Russia many times
You can sure prove it, do it, faggot
>>61065926
You are so obviously an Ivan on holiday.
>>61066624
>hey faggot actually nato & eu refused to invite russia
I don't remember that Russia ever officially applied for a memebership in NATO and EU
>>61066433
>there is no reason to be so hostile
It's impossible as long as your country is threatening our security and sovereignty.
>>61066569
>Europe and even NATO tried to be friends of Russia many times.
That's exactly the opposite.
>>61065902
damn
>>61066569
Now that's just bullshit. When the USSR fell every russian wanted to join the euros in their stuff. They also asked to join NATO.
The decisive moment was the war in Yugoslavia, that was the moment Russia realized that it was not about "being friends", but more along the lines of "bend over and let your ass get fucked".
Also Russia joining NATO would defeat the purpose or NATO itself, you should know that.
>>61065202
Russian are the bunch of cunts.
>>61065202
their govt is shit,people usually are nice,atleast in St Petersburg
>>61066636
>You can sure prove it, do it, faggot
Yes, i can prove it. The best evidence that Europe was a friend of Russia is the fact that Russian economy exists only because we buy its oil and gas. Countless German-Russian businesses made over heads of Poles like Nord Stream f.e. is another evidence that most important European countries are ready to destroy European solidarity to make Russia happy.
Russia was a partner of NATO for many years, we were making common trainings, Polish aircrafts were flying near Russian aircrafts on exercises. Today we see Russia violating airspace of baltic states, Finland and Sweden literally every week.
>>61066657
PROOOFS.jpg
>>61066681
>When the USSR fell every russian wanted to join the euros in their stuff. They also asked to join NATO.
Russia never applied for a membership in NATO and EU. If they applied, we could discuss this matter. I am not going to talk about urban legends. Show me an official document in which Russia applies for a membership in EU/NATO, then we will continue to talk.
>>61066690
> Russia violating airspace of baltic states, Finland and Sweden literally every week.
I demand evidence on this polish lie
PROOFS on violating airspace in all 7 weeks of may & june please
>>61066657
So, go on and prove your point of Europe wanting be Russia's friend.
2BH Russian-French relations were always friendly. UK was always hostile. Germany is reluctant after WW2. Building a gas pipe-line which Polskie kurwy oppose.
It's not your fucking business
>>61066690
Europe wants to keep russia as an oil pipe and gas pipe
>>61066726
>It's not your fucking business
It is our business because second pipe of Nord Stream is going to collide with our Baltic Pipe.
>>61066682
Watch out for Putin's submarines, dude
>>61066689
>people are nice
>in St Petersburg
Please, tell me you are joking.
>>61066690
>Countless German-Russian businesses made over heads of Poles
LMAO
Polska kurwa smells the cheating
Yes, Russia has no troubles with Germany while Poland is feeling butthurt about the fact.
>>61066664
>threatening our security and sovereignty.
Like you and Ukraine?
>>61066713
>being polska kurwa
>we could discuss this matter
You have no say, bitch
>>61066783
If Russia is so great, why arn't you still living there?
>>61066721
>PROOFS on violating airspace in all 7 weeks of may & june please
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-finland-airspace-russia-idUKKBN0GS13V20140828
To the Russian, the Pollack, and the Russian with the Swiss proxy, shush. We can all be civilized and provide sources for our claims. I'll get you guys started with a brief rundown from kikepedia. You will have to learn2google on your own, though; it's a difficult process and I'm not a very good teacher.
"relations between the NATO military alliance and the Russian Federation were established in 1991 within the framework of the North Atlantic Cooperation Council,.[1] In 1994 Russia joined the Partnership for Peace programme.[2] During the 1990s, the two sides signed several important agreements on cooperation.[3]
The Russia–NATO council was set up in 2002, for handling security issues and joint projects. Cooperation between Russia and NATO now develops in several main sectors: fighting terrorism, military cooperation, cooperation on Afghanistan (including transportation by Russia of non-military International Security Assistance Force freight (see NATO logistics in the Afghan War), and fighting the local drug production), industrial cooperation, non-proliferation, and others.
On 1 April 2014, NATO unanimously decided to suspend practical co-operation with the Russian Federation, in response to the Ukraine crisis.[4]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO%E2%80%93Russia_relations
>>61066821
> 2014
-1 zloty from your account
>>61066746
WUT!?
Your pipe-line is non-existant, while North Stream One is fully operational. You are too late with your ridiculous claims.
>>61066842
I see russians already on vacation.
>>61066813
Guess what: I'm free LOL
>>61066835
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2016/06/08/world/europe/ap-eu-estonia-airspace-violation.html
>>61066862
So you wern't in Russia?
>>61066886
> "estonia says"
sputnik/wyborcza tier source
>>61066821
"Finland scrambled jets to identify the Russian plane it suspected of crossing over"
Suspected, Carl!
Dorks at least drew a map in Paint.exe
>>61066713
I'm not talking about EU membership, i'm talking about cooperation and "being friends" of the EU.
Okay, there are no official documents, but the fact is that during the 1990s russia did show willingness to further relationships with NATO and even eventually join, at least until the bombing of Yugoslavia happened
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO–Russia_relations
I stand corrected in that they didn't "ask" to join, but they definitely had the intent on doing it before NATO showed its malevolent side.
>>61066932
>I'm not talking about EU membership, i'm talking about cooperation and "being friends" of the EU.
That's what we had for last 15 years. Unfortunately Russians prefered Crimea nd Eastern Ukraine to our friendship.
>>61066860
Switzerland is a nice destination.
Wanna join? I'll pick up your auntie and uncle from Heathrow.
>>61066860
>I see russians already on vacation.
Russians can't even afford vacations in Turkey now after crash of oil price
>>61066636
>humanitarian aid on 90s(food, agriculture machines. school equipments)
>NATO-Russia round table
>Russia in G8
>Russia invited to WTO
>>61066664
I know, Putin talks about this here and I agree with his answer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KHCNk9BYy4
US government is completely hypocritical when it comes to Russia. Freaks the fuck out when Russia takes Crimea, media outrage, top story of the year. We fuck up middle eastern countries, play nation builder 2k16, arm rebels that turn into ISIS, then leave and let it fall into chaos. And we have bases all over the world. As long as we are allies with Saudi Arabia I have zero respect for US foreign policy.
>>61066886
Do they even have radars to check it?
>>61066892
Crimea is nice. I'll be there on vacations chanting pro-Russian slogans and bullying ethnic Ukrainians.
>>61066952
If you believe Ukraine was evil imperialist ruski's fault and that USA/EU didn't have a big hand on it then there's nothing left to say. Your brain is kill.
Next you'll tell me saudi/USA current shenanigans in Yemen are perfectly fine.
>>61066713
The only time Russia ever applied to join NATO was in a 1954 meme attempt where they told the West that America would have to pull back all its military forces and let Russia effectively take their place. It was never serious at all.
>>61067046
Ukraine and Belarus are shit because they decided to stay in Russian influence zone after 1989 instead of applying for NATO membership. Belarus is a little bit more stable than Ukraine only thanks to massive energetical and financial donations from Russia, but its economy is as shit as Ukraine's.
>>61066126
Thank you greatest ally.
>>61065202
>>61065202
Fenno-Ugria
TAJÖ ASLYSPÖLÖS KOMI ANBUR. SYÖN VÖDITČYLISNY ZYRÄNA KOMIÄS
I love it, want to move there, but not sure will I do it. If I can't find a decent job in Serbia, I probably will.
The language is beautiful, their movies and literature are awesome, the music is corny. People are pretty nice, usually no sense of humour though.
>>61065893
Average salary in Poland is a joke since social inequality is so huge.
>>61067046
it was tool how to boost Putin popularity, beofore Crimea popularity of Putin was ll time low, russian economy was heading to recession
now its all EU+USA fault, typical fascist move to create external enemy
>>61067010
As you can see we are best friends
Why all that butthurt?
>>61067046
Listen here Colombia, I know we messed around with Latin America quite a bit but your other option was USSR-backed leftists who would have turned all your countries into Cuba or Venezuela. No need to be eternally salty and cry about muh US imperialism forever.
>>61067122
president here is just ceremonial role without any power
>>61066952
EU-US sponsored Orange Revolution of 2004 was a failure. So will be the revolt of 2014.
>>61067076
Give them visa-free entry NOW.
I know you won't, you based murrican
>>61067111
Crimea is Russia's rightful clay
Prove the opposite, faggot
>pro tip: you can't
Putin's popularity were even lower if he did not do what he did.
>>61067149
Still, calling him a Trojan horse of Putin is quite disrespectful
>>61067073
I thought we were talking about the coup and civil war?
>>61067111
>now its all EU+USA fault, typical fascist move to create external enemy
Do you know what fascism means?
Fascist or not, it's not wrong.
>>61067125
USSR is dead, and so is their global communism bullshit.
Thanks for your concern, but our own homegrown commies didn't get a penny from USSR because they had drug money, the cold war didn't mean shit to us. You don't know what you're talking about, at least in colombia's case things were very, very different from anywhere else.
>>61067149
Yeah it's the same in every country
>>61067106
> said Croatia
Oh look, another country that was 3x richer than Poland in 90s and now is poorer although never had war on its territory and never was a part of the soviet block.
Average salary before tax in Poland:
4148 zł (964 euro)
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/poland/wages
Average salary before tax in Croatia:
5722 HRK (762 euro)
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/croatia/wages
GDP per capita nominal:
Poland: 12,495$
Croatia: 11,572$
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=22&pr.y=8&sy=2015&ey=2015&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=964%2C960&s=NGDPDPC&grp=0&a=
> social inequality
Gini index
Poland: 32.78
Croatia: 33.61
https://www.quandl.com/collections/demography/gini-index-by-country
>>61067171
>>61067200
>>61067234
now...who is butthurt lol
fucking russian diaspora, go back to your zemjamka
>>61067281
Robert Paxton says that fascism is "a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.
sounds like russia to me
>>61065652
.t secretly loving Canada
>>61067309
>4148 zł (964 euro)
I earn 7 times as much
LOL at you kurwa
Croatia joined EU NINE years after Poland.
You got all EU donations. Now the wallet is empty for Croatia.
>>61067335
>go back to your zemjamka
I'll fly to Prague this weekend
Will let you dance for some tip
>>61067386
Why all Russian expats must be so stupid? You can't simply deal with the fact that Poles have better genetics and minds than you subhumans, hence are able to build a decent economy without earning 300 bln dollar / year from selling oil, while you live like pigs in shit with the biggest natural resources on this planet?
>>61067335
>who is butthurt
I don't disagree that Russia is butthurt about Ukraine.
>>61067415
typical russian
"new russian" without class
>>61067441
Poland joined EU prior the financial crisis and 9 years before Croatia.
Poland joined NATO 17 years ago, 10 years before Croatia.
There was no prolonged civil war in Poland as it was the case in Croatia.
>2016
Poland is still at the same level with Croatia despite of the above mentioned AND Germany as a rich neighbor.
Explain me this, I'm toooooo stupid to get it!
>>61067335
It also sounds a lot like USA and EU.
I guess the world is done for, huh
>>61067471
>2016
>being Czech
>still working as a servant for the rich
>>61067533
Switzerland didn't join EU at all and is rich anyway. How joining NATO has anything in common with being rich? Look at Sweden. The civil war lasted only 4 years and it happened on the beginning of 90s. We had a martial law for all 80s which was much worse in many aspects.
>>61067043
>Crimea is nice
KEK, sure if you ignore the constant long power outages, the widespread poverty and the awful weather, then yeah it's nice
>>61067551
Have some respect for hard-working people, Russian kike. If your country consisted of something more than oil-kikes and alcoholic subhumans, your standard of life wouldn't be Africa-tier.
>>61067565
Polska kurwa getting educated on 4chan!
You just saw that being truely independent is beneficial. A thing you could not afford in your past and won't be able to afford in your future.
>The civil war lasted only 4 years
WW2 lasted only 5 years and you got buttfucked by Germans and Soviets.
>>61067616
>the constant long power outages
You don't read newspapers, do you?
>widespread poverty
Ukrainian legacy. But it's good to keep prices low.
>the awful weather
In Crimea? You don't say! LOL at you
The thread: autistic dickwaving dance of a son of a Russian oligarch who's in switzerland for vacation and retarded brown spic from retarded shithole who has no idea how the world actually works.
>>61067644
>Being independent is beneficial
You can't change topic and speak for Switzerland as you are not Swiss, you are Russian, and are arguing on the behalf of Russia.
>>61067644
>You just saw that being truely independent is beneficial.
Such third world shitholes like North Korea and Russia are the best evidence of it, right? Although Russia is not even really independent because it fully depends on money that civilized countries pay for its energocarriers. Being a gasoline station of civilized world can't be called an independence after all.
>>61067620
I respect a Czech girl sirving me a coffee with a smile while I look out of the windows at what we could not afford in 1968, but easily bought in in XXI century.
>>61067739
80% of your countrymen can't even afford a trip abroad, Russian kike. Look at your country from broader perspective sometimes.
>>61067702
Double citizenship is a blessing.
>>61067691
>You don't read newspapers, do you?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/09/world/europe/crimea-power-ukraine-russia.html?_r=0
>inb4 NYtimes, Western Propaganda etc etc
It's from direct quotes from Crimean officials
>Ukrainian legacy
Russia has not improved it at all
>But it's good to keep prices low
Hello kike merchant
>In Crimea? You don't say! LOL at you
So you don't deny it? You were the one that said Crimea was nice.
>>61067691
>widespread poverty
>Ukrainian legacy
The logic: Everything good in an ex-USSR state should be attributed to the Soviet legacy but the bad things in the country should be blamed to the country itself.
>>61067744
I don't need to care about 80% of my countrymen. This makes me feel happy.
Take care of you Soviet-era relatives
>>61067757
>2016/01/09
Are you serious?
Read fresh newspapers, bro
>>61067813
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=um8rgvokdrE
>>61065202
Pretty much cool guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibl6SHbq8sY
>>61067813
If you read the article, they clearly said they were expecting power outages until May. I guess you can enjoy the last 21 days as just above a third world country, with actual electricity.
dats shit
>>61067757
>So you don't deny it?
Denying what?
Nobody goes to Crimea in the winter.
It's a spring-summer-autumn destination.
>>61067778
23 years of a failed state
What do you expect?
>>61067866
The weather in the winter is atrocious, yet it is hardly any better in the other seasons.
>>61067846
>they clearly said they were expecting power outages until May
I urge you to read fresher newspapers.
It's mid-June, dude
>>61067836
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNDbo2ghEwo
>>61067894
>tfw banned on google picture search
>>61067910
>Implying the issues won't resurface as Crimea is a near third world state at the moment
>>61067879
>23 years of a failed state
You mean R*ssia?
>>61067959
>the issues won't resurface
Now you sound as if you googled for an update.
Well done, bro!
>>61067920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txddEOjMLrk
>>61067962
Go figure, bro
A different topic: is it true they eat monkeys in Korea?
>>61067962
>Cuckrea
lmao
>>61068026
That doesn't make any sense my Russian kike friend.
>>61067959
>Crimea is a near third world state at the moment
Ukrainian legacy and Western sanctions
>>61068052
>is it true they eat monkeys in Korea?
That's what the Chinese do. Monkeys don't even live in Korea.
>>61068073
Still talking about power outages?
Come on, dude, tt's solved already.
>>61068066
>be R*ssia
>still has failed to pay its denbts from a cucked state
>>61068135
>Gook trying to sound intelligent
lmao
>>61068099
Did they eat them all?
>>61067920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA57p4AvLWw
>>61068075
>Ukrainian legacy and Western sanctions
Russia has owned Crimea for three years now, and it hasn't improved at all. If anything, it's gotten worse.
>>61068135
How does it feel to leave your civilized country for Korea because of money?
>>61068157
>t. a country called "Nigeria with snow"
We are though.
>>61067790
>I don't need to care about 80% of my countrymen. This makes me feel happy.
You must be a moskovite, right? :)
>>61068186
>Ruskie living in Switzerland accusing people of leaving their country for money
LMAO
>>61068175
>it's gotten worse
Said someone with no idea even about Crimean climate
2 years. Since March 2014.
>>61066259
Well, it's already collapsed twice, and our government doesn't seem to have learned its lesson.
>>61068186
>How does it feel to leave your civilized country for Korea because of money?
I don't get your question. I was born here and never have resided abroad.
>>61068221
>Said someone with no idea even about Crimean climate
I know from what I read, which is extensively as I am interested in the issue. You are most likely fed through state propaganda being told that Crimea is now a paradise on earth after Russian control.
>>61068205
>a moskovite
LOL
Polska kurwa can into memes
>>61068199
>resorts to meme pictures
>claims to be intelligent when it's a proven fact chinks and gooks cheat on exams etc
lmao
Russia, Turkey, Trump, Brexit--all of those are failures of democracy. The poor ignorant people vote for populist or authoritarian agendas, and for some reason poor ignorant people are the majority. Right to vote should be restricted to people with at least high-school education, and who own property. Also introduce random selection of public officials.
>>61068233
I can feel that feel, bro
>>61068276
And Bulgaria is a champion for freedom and democracy right?
>>61068255
>when it's a proven fact chinks and gooks cheat on exams etc
We gets blamed in bonus for what Chinks do. Your ingnorance is the pure example. It's similar to how stereotypes of Slavs has crashed into dump because of one country is the most relevant.
>>61068276
>with at least high-school education, and who own property
Well holy shit, welcome to the 19th century.
>>61068252
>I know from what I read
I urge you to read carefully
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-crimea-power-idUSKCN0Y21K5
>>61068291
You country has been under the chinks for god knows how many centuries. You are THE chinks who speak different language.
>>61068291
I read that a Korean champion in WoW cheated.
Is it true?
>>61068174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QJh2-1V5GE
>>61068310
>glorious Russia has almost restored the electricity supply in Crimea
Yeah, come back when Crimea has something it hadn't before the annexation. Like, you know, tourists with money to spend.
>>61068300
Actually restricting citizenship to those who fir certain criteria is a much older idea.
>>61068358
butthurt liberal detected
>>61068388
>Russians are Ukrainians who speak different language.
Indeed. What, were you trying to bait me?
>You are THE chinks who speak different language.
>coming from a country whose practical origin basically started as a successful bitch of Mongols
While your argument is a silly joke the more compelling argument is that Russians are Ukrainians who speak different language
>>61068388
>Russians are Ukrainians who speak different language
100% agree
>>61068397
A reasonable argument of a mature person.
>>61068420
I don't get why they are constantly bashing the country which keeps their roots.
>>61068339
>I read that a Korean champion in WoW cheated.
I have no interests in Wow so I don't know. But I have heard there's one country which is notorious for prevalent incidents of doping in sports..
>>61068437
I see only 2 options
- butthurt white-ribbon loser
- butthurt Ukrainian on autie's visit in Rostov
- some butthurt ethnic minority guy
>>61068439
It's simple.
Because they revise our common history.
This is not acceptable.
>>61065202
They bring trouble everywhere they go, like niggers
>>61068505
>Because they revise our common history
Elaborate.
>>61068466
>doping
low quality bait, bro
Try harder
>>61068478
Does your mom even allow you to visit sites like this one? You know, there are grown-ups who say bad words here.
>>61068529
I didn't even mention that the country is Russia. Why so much madness m8?
>>61068521
Not all Russians are evil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJbwl8sZEC8
>>61068544
>I didn't even mention that the country is Russia
I read fresh newspaper
All Muscovites are scum got that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QXc8PBC4s4
>>61068527
In short, they deny that Russia has anything in common with Kievan Rus.
>>61066910
>wyborcza tier
lol, fuck off from Wyborcza, it is the most credible newspaper in Poland, although maybe too leftist in some aspects
butthurt intensifies
>>61068651
If I know correctly Italy to Rome is what Ukraine is to Kievan Rus and Germany to Rome is what Russia is to Kievan Rus.
What Russian nationalists are claiming is equivalent of claiming Italy has no independent history and culture on its own and everything about the country is German. Yet they claim since Holy Roman Empire called itself "Rome" Roman empire is solely German history.
>>61068778
>Karin Enström
A FUCKING WOMAN AS DEFENCE MINISTER AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>61068778
MUH 1300 KILOMETERS
THANK YOU NIINISTÖ
I m going to russia for tourist after graduation. What is there to do there?
One of the worst countries and people in the world. Russians are basically albino niggers.
>>61068778
Niinistö is probably the only mainstream politician in Finland who is so deluded about Russia. Unfortunately he is also a president.
>>61065991
>English looks down upon...
Since when?
You don't really think the relations between the Welsh and English here reflect our attitudes in real life do you?
It's best not to talk about stuff you have no idea about mate..
>>61068837
>>61068770
You are in denial of some facts.
Rome crumbled, Germans took over (Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation). Latin as a language is spoken only in two countries.
Italian unity and independence took long to become reality.
Cultural and religious significance of cities in the Russian history
- Novgorod as Rurik was called to rule
- Kiev as Rurik's grandson was brought to Kiev
- Vladimir-Suzdal as Kievan Rus ceased to exist
- Rostov
- Moscow
- St. Petersburg
- Moscow again
>>61068874
Go to St. Petersburg in the summer (white nights)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugivNRYfjc
much better people/country than most of europe Ñ‚bh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPcU63X5niM
>>61068958
>Latin as a language is spoken only in two countries.
Old Slavonic is now spoken nowhere.
>Italian unity and independence took long to become reality.
Which is true, and your point is?
Russia as a state has its origin in Muscovy. Its cultural roots are from Kiev but there is no such evidence of Russia having more relevance with Kievan Rus than Ukraine has.
>>61068950
Both were fucked by Romans badly. True Celtic culture est passe.
>>61069002
This clip is belarusian and this girl can sing in Polish too.
>>61069078
>Old Slavonic is now spoken nowhere.
it's spoken in the church actually, during sermons and such, i guess
>>61069108
>belarusian
so literally mini russians?
lad...
y'all are butthut at russians due to USSR but gommies fucked em over more than any one, now a days western europe are the marxists and NATO the imperialists
>>61065202
christian turkey with nukes
>>61069139
I am not butthurt at Russians due to the past, i am simply critical about present Russia. Russia ain't friendly to Poland either, so it is a mutual relation.
>>61069139
>but gommies fucked em over more than any one
Still does not hide the fact tha they fucked others severely. And if your statement is true then it only proves the retardations of Russians with USSR nostalgia.
>western europe are the marxists
Democratic socialism =/= Marxism
>NATO the imperialists
So how many countries has NATO forcefully annexed? How many countries became NATO members against their own wills?
>>61069214
seems like now a days NATO is using poland as a staging ground for provocations like military exercises and such with intent to threaten russia and poles are okay with that for some reason, sounds like a bad idea to me
>>61069166
well put, komshu
>>61069238
lol fyrom
>>61069238
>seems like now a days NATO is using poland as a staging ground for provocations like military exercises
Oh my gosh..
>>61069237
>Democratic socialism =/= Marxism
t. bernie sanders
there are tons of marxist principles in effect in the west m8, current EU is much closer to what USSR was than Russia is now to it, it's just richer.
>>61068224
It's wasn't collapse. Both time it was transformation/reorganization.
>>61069081
>Both were fucked by Romans badly.
Wasn't all of Europe?
Swiss proxy russky all over the thread)
Guys pls just ignore him
its his job to praise Putler and blame others
shame Russia's image is bad thanks to that kind of tards
>>61069267
>there are tons of marxist principles in effect in the west
>as if it is a bad thing
That's how mixed economy works everywhere.
>t. a citzen from a country where people have anti-gommunism sentiments than anywhere else
>>61069267
Fyrom, while you are an obnoxious russiaboo autist, I should inform you that opinions are bullshit. The Eastern block was a centrally planned economy without private property. Also totalitarian dictatorship. Which of those is the West?
>>61065202
They're going to collapse in 10 years, and good riddance. Fucking commie punks.
>>61069349
EU and USSR have the same goal in the end, creating a socialist superstate under a new identity for the people (european, soviet), it's the same shit m8, as I said, one is wealthier than the other
>>61069356
it doesn't, but that's hardly relevant, "totalitarian dictatorship" or the "democracy" you have now in EU is barely different, you barely have any say in the laws EU decides to pass which you must follow being an EU member
>>61069356
No offense but I thought most people in Bulgaria were Russiaboos like their western neighbor. If that was my delusion than feel free to correct me.
>>61069078
>Muscovy
How did it evolve? Who build it?
>>61069409
the toilet cleaners are happy for opportunity to work for their german masters for bellow min wage
>>61069139
Literally White Russians
Now-Ukraine was called Little Russia
>>61069331
>Swiss proxy russky all over the thread)
It is good that he defends his country, but it would be less annoying if he was defending it while residing in Russia ;)
>>61069409
We're in EU and NATO, why should we be more russiaboo than Fyrom and their Serbian masters? Now, we're in a strategically important position when it comes to Russian projects, and we are feeling the pressure from the Northeast constantly. Russian money is paying for radical parties and lowbrow media outlets.
>>61069237
>How many countries became NATO members against their own wills?
How many former British collonies joined the British Empire against their will? You are hilarious
LOL at you, Jonny
>>61069495
once soviet slaves now american slaves, nothing changed but your masters, it just annoys me how bulgarians are quick to suck american dick while they build their military bases all over your country, I guess they're happy they're defending you from ruskie boogieman tho?
>>61069471
If I would reside in Russia, you'd say I'm in Olgino now.
>>61066025
>hundreds of years of fighting off foreign aggression on all borders
>Internal struggle with the cossacks rebelling
>Numerous insurections shortly after the partitions
>"you were not even fighting"
Come on now
>>61069558
Olgino guys emulate people of other nationalities and troll foreign forums to shape public opinion, so you would be a perfect Olgino troll if you kept insisting that you are Swiss ;)
>>61069567
You used to call Kiev your own. Then Russian barbarians owned you.
>>61069579
So, what's your guess on the real Putin support in Russia?
>>61069471
he is residing in russia
have you ever heard about proxy?
>>61069528
>muh independent macedonia
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
you can buy your whole goverment with 1 million USD
>>61069620
It is not a wonder for me that Putin is a very popular and supported politician in Russia, because oil price grew in period of his political career from 10 dollar to 120 dollar / barrel. Even now during the oil crash, his authority is still strong and additionally boosted by "Krym nash" and stuff like this
![20160621_120643[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lS75BRf.jpg "20160621_120643[1].jpg")
>>61069579
it's easy
Russians are pretty cool people. They deserve better goverment than Putin and his cronies.
