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>Frank-Walter Steinmeier urged the Nato military alliance to replace the exercises with more dialogue and co-operation with Russia.
>The exercise was a hipotetical Russian attack on Poland scenario
Germany is a member of NATO, their own soldiers took part in the exercise.
Could SPD be even more obvious?
>http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36566422
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Poland is rightful Russian clay.
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>>60985167
I was expecting something more along 'give Schlesien back'.
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>>60985539
Nobody wants to pay to rebuild that.
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>>60985589
We did it for last sixty years.
There were worries in Poland after Germany unification that since we had agreements with West and East Germany's, you will want to invade us after unification claiming that those agreements were void.
It's one of the reasons why last Red Army troops left Poland only in 1994.
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>>60986017
>We did it for last sixty years.

With EU monies you got from us! >:(
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>>60984705
Why, it is a warmongering exercise

You're basically treating Russia as a potential adversary openly, try to be more subtle
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>>60984705
>SPD
Yeah, I remember how our former president from the SPD was best buddies with Putin and now works for Gazprom.
That party belongs into the trash, same with Merkel's CDU.
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>>60986230
>Yeah, I remember how our former president from the SPD was best buddies with Putin and now works for Gazprom.
>president

Chancellor you mean.
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>military
>dialogue
>co-operation
Isn't that the job of diplomats?
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>>60986060
But why German minister is more concerned than Russians themselves?
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>>60986051
>Sixty years
>Poland joined EU in 2004
I know you are trying to push a meme here, but at least try to be a bit more subtle here.
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>>60986060
>You're basically treating Russia as a potential adversary openly
It's not like Russia is acting like a potential adversary for the last few years, right?
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>>60989434
Why do pole peoples assholes explode when they hear the name russia?
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>>60984705
he looks angry
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>>60984705
The social democrats prefer a policy of cooperation over confrontation and hostility. How is this supposed to be bad?
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>>60989853
I dunno. Maybe in Poland.
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>>60984705
Russia should be nuked.
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Don't get closer to our borders and we will not get closer to yours.
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>>60989964
should *have * been
it's too late now
sucks to be you
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>>60989528
>two wrongs make a right
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>>60990032
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He is trying to keep the balance
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>>60989932
wow that's and up-to-date list
I mean, it's mid-2016 and nato just held 30000+ excercize while Russia held one 8000big on a ukrainian border in february and that's about it
it's been way more than a year since Russia has held anything compareable to current NATO's shit-yourself-fest
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Military training was cool, that's why German minister is angry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ3FcgOLQ3M

Germans sent only 20 soldiers, because they were forced to by NATO obligations. USA sent 14.000 soldiers to Poland.

I never had doubts about who Germans are, nor our politicians
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>>60990138
It's just a shitshow for politicians.
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>>60990339
It is a long term strategy of Germany, to ally secretly with Russia, destroy and enslave Europe, after kicking out American interest from the continent.
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>>60990382
mmmkay
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>>60990547
Even refugee crisis is a synchronized and perfectly planned action of Russia and Germany whose task was to disintegrate EU.
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>>60990382
Yeah I'm sure all steinmeieg wants is a couple of Polish slaves.
Wake up. Who the fuck needs you. And Europe is only valuable for its technology, and Germany's got all of it as it is
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>>60986051
>t. Marshall Plan leech
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>>60990636
Marshall plan was not a gift.
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>>60990673
Neither is the EU
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>>60990726
Lmao for Poland it is
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>>60990622

It is not about Poland, but about removing American influence from Europe and replacing it by "new order" dictated by Germany and Russia, maybe also France to some degree. Current situation in Europe, artificially boosted refugee crisis that is entirely a fault of Russia and Germany, was created in order to destroy current order and build the new one.
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>>60985167
goymoney is rightful Turkish clay

get the fuck out of germany, make room for a nice Turkish family and go back east with the rest of the war mongering animals where you belong, kacapie
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>>60984705
why is it always germany that is the betruger in de eurofamille?
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>>60990786
Nope, it is not. All these EU funds that we get must be "properly spent" which means that also German companies must take part in tenders and win. Most of this money comes back to German economy afterwards.
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>>60990786
lolzorz xD
Thank you for your valuable contribution. Where do you think the German exports go? Who do you think profits from all the brain drain in Eastern Europe? Who do you think does all the EU-funded construction work? It's a deal where both sides profit, they're not doing it because they're the patron saints of generosity.
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>>60990786
Germany exports to Poland its shit worth 52 bln euro. It is half of their export to USA. They earn unbelievable money on Poland, and our trade with Germany grows with average speed 10% per year. We will be more important trade partner of Germany than most of Westerneuropean countries in next decade.
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>>60986051
meh

you owe us reparations anyways


and we'll collect 1 way or another

szwabie
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>>60990802
>germany an extremly americanized country with a government that sucks obamas black dong and an urge to destroy itself will force it's (nonexsistend) culture on Poland

Sure. You'll sooner or later realize that it's indeed all about the money and the companies run this country, not Steinmeier or Merkel. She's just enforcing what the lobbies dictate her. Why do you think one point two million refugees who'll never get a decent education were imported?
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>>60991209
I already explained that refugee crisis was an operation entirely engineered by Russia and Germany. Russia is responsible for sending millions of people to Europe, Germany is responsible for accepting them in Europe. It was made in order to disintegrate EU, remove American influence from the continent and share power over Europe between three countries: Germany, Russia and France.
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>>60991270

Germans can't even stay in control of their own country, how are they supposed to control the EU. We don't even have a functioning army.
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>>60991400
Your country is ruled by Russian agents. In such situation everything is possible
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Poles and their conspiracy theories always make me cringe. It's not even plausible shit like 9/11, they unironically believe Germany and Russia formed a secret alliance with the aim to destroy Poland.

l
m
a
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>>60991859
>they unironically believe Germany and Russia formed a secret alliance with the aim to destroy Poland.
Oh you poor imbecile.

It's a simple thing.

Weak Russia + no Germany = Strong Poland
Busy Germany + moderate Russia = Good enough Poland
Strong Germany + Moderate Russia = No Poland

There is no conspirancy.
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>>60991859
It is not about Poland but about domination in Eurasia. You have a deal with Russia and do everything possible to remove American influence from Eurasia and dominate it along with Russia
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>>60991923
I believe it's called "having a national interests"
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>>60991916
Strong Germany + Strong Russia = Negative Poland?
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>>60992179
Poland has national interest too, which is not compatibile with Russia's and Germany's
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>>60992587
>Poland has national interest too,
HAHAHAHAHA

We do? KEK
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>>60992614
Poland's national interest is to block Russian-German alliance in Europe.
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>>60992587
>Polish national interest
Sucking obongos cock?
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>>60992642
This fucking delusion.

Polish interest in Europe is to die for other nation's interest.
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>>60992648
The stronger USA is, the bigger influence USA has in Eurasia, the better for Poland, it is obvious
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>>60992674
Sometimes death is a better option than being a slave. Today Russianspeaking people clean our toilets. If Russia-Germany alliance wins, we will be cleaning toilets of Russianspeaking people.
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>>60992684
Too bad no one gives a single fuck about Poland. The US shouldn't have any influence in Eurasia, they should mind their own business. I don't want an imperialist country on the other side of the world to dictate the politics of my country.
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>>60992837
If USA loses its influence in Europe, Polish children will be killed by your and Russians and their internal organs sold to your citizens, Polish people will search for food in trashbin and slave-workers will have to work for almost free on Russian construction sites.

Sorry dude, but Poland doesn't have a future without USA
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>>60989853
"Speak softly and carry a big stick"

There has to be dialog, bit when if one day it fails, you better not be unprepared
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>>60992943
lol fuck USA

I really dont think Polaks owe any fucking perfidious anglo so much as a kind word.

fuck them, and if these yankee fucks think were going to do anything in their favor, in eastern yruop for them, they better guess again.
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>>60993088

Stop insulting the Moloch, Russian piggy.
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>>60992796
We don't have a fucking alliance with Russia, Germany is one of America's most important allies. Merkel is pro-american, she was pushing for anti-russian sanctions since the very beginning. You're paranoid.
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>>60993112


I shit on your cocksucker
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>>60993088
>>60993149
This.

It was USA that sold Poland to the Communism,
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>>60993199
And stop shitposting, you retard. It is another thread that you shit all over. Go back to kratuchan, mentally weak bum.
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>>60993226
Prove me wrong.
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>>60984705
Nobody here would ever die for Poland.
And since our army is only good for defending Germany we cant do much even if the corrut politicians want it. Thank god.
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>>60993258
When will retarded polacks realize that Russia has no fucking interest in annexing this shithole.

We would be better off if we ditched the shitty war mongering politics and just focused on trade.

b-but muh USA NATO XDDD

Fucking retards.
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>>60993310
How do you know Russian intentions so well? Are you an insider? :D
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>>60993396
Just lay down butthurt and patriotism for few minutes.

Notice something. Every country in Europe has some kind of a deal with Russia. America is constantly fucking behind our back with them.

But we're the only ones that can't get benefits of it. We're the only ones that need to be at constant "hate" and butthurt towards mongols from the east.

Why ? Can't we fucking focus on Poland for once? We're making the same mistake our shitty ancestors did in 39.
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>>60993396
Insider of your mum's vaginer )))
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Germany is a cuck
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>>60990802
Wut.
Are you saying Soros is a Russian agent?
LOL
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>>60993488
We are benefiting greatly now, because we buy Russian energocarriers for 1/4 of price in comparison with 2013 or 2012 year. It is already a great progress. We are having it only thanks to the energetical shale revolution that began in the USA. We weren't attack by Russia yet like Georgia, Chechnya, Syria, Ukraine and other countries only because we are allied with the USA.

If USA loses its influence in Europe, we are dead. Our children will be killed and sold on integral organs to rich clients in Russia and Germany, our women will be raped by Russians soldiers, our country will be completely destroyed and pauperized, and millions of Poles will end up as slave workers in Russia.

The sooner you understand it, the better. We must die for the USA and do everything USA wants, otherwise we are dead. Even this EU money that we get is also USA's doing, if USA wasn't behind it, we would get shit. Our obligation and our only chance to survive is to obey USA in everything. Sad but true ;)
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>Large country with large military brazenly occupies and annexes territory of neighbouring sovereign state wthin Europe in the year 2014
>Stop all these warmongering defensive exercises
>Let's talk and cooperate with them
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>>60993624
>of neighbouring sovereign state wthin Europe
>sovereign
>state
Ukraine?

HAHA
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>>60993648
Stop laughing at other's misfortunes, Russian illiterate piggy.
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>>60993615
Everything is wrong with your post.
I won't even bother wasting my energy on this bullshit.

Anglos aren't our friends, they're our biggest enemies.
>>60993676
Nasrać ci do mordy kutasiarzu?
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>>60989528
Only since the collapse of the Soviet union, and Soviet before that.

>>60989853
Its bad because of bear mauls you, you need to maul it back before it kills you. You can talk and use time to talk if nothing stops it.
If if things are fucked, you at the least got army ready.
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>>60993690
There are no "friends" in global politics
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>>60993690
Spotted the cuck
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>>60993770
Congratulations.

Why do you suck amerishit dick though if you realise that there are no friends?
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>>60993797
>Spotted the cuck
Cuck would be to suck anglo-jew dick.

Did you know that Americans wanted to steal our Polish water? Simple folk fought with them for 400 days, protecting their fields.
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>>60993798
>Why do you suck amerishit dick though if you realise that there are no friends?

I already explained everything: >>60993615

We must obey to live. And if we die in fight, we couldn't change this fate anyway.
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>>60993836
Fuck you and your destructive faggot beta passive thinking.
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>>60993832
>Did you know that Americans wanted to steal our Polish water? Simple folk fought with them for 400 days, protecting their fields.

Get the fuck out from this board, Russian psychotroll. It is not funny anymore.
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>>60991270
You didn't explain shit, this is ridiculous. So if Russia is responsible for the migrant crisis, why did Soros provide manuals on how to illegally cross borders to refugees, why the NGOs financed by him jumped at once to help and guide poor dindus to get in Europe, also why is all the librul media constantly campaigning to accept more refugees against all reason?
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Friendly reminder that there is an ethnic Belar*sian posting behind a Polish flag who constantly shills for R*ssia.
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>>60993865

Your government is a double-whore of Russia and Germany, no wonder that it makes a propaganda about boogeyman Soros who somehow is powerful enough to send millions of people from Middle East to Europe (not Russia that bombs the shit out of this place and funds most of terrorist organisations around the world), and additionally persuade everybody to accept them (not German government doing it in planned way).
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>>60993861
Ty jestes naprawdÄ™ jakis niedojebany umyslowo. Matka cie upuscila za mlodu?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P2-i8LKWo8

Gardze wami niedoinformowane polskie zwierzeta, naprawde. Zero kurwa nadziei z takimi idiotami.
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>>60993711
Sorry, but other than conservatives, no one here actually wants to deepen the conflict with Russia. The aim of foreign policy should be the maintainance of good relationships with our neighbors, especially with a strong country such as Russia.
Putin is not insane, he wouldn't start a war with a western country for no concrete reason. We shouldn't provoke him with useless Nato exercises near Russia's border.
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>>60993943
> posting links to speeches of some Russian YT-trolls

You must be 12 y.o. aren't you? :DDD
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>>60993991
Hopeless, just like I said.
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>>60993798
uhh make peace with pissthuania already so we can make the balldick military union and take kaliningrad, maybe more?
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>>60993832
i want to be a general

and I want to issue a command to shut down the US embassy and expell all americans out of Polan

I want to more than shut it down, I want to organize a protest where we BURN IT DOWN
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>>60994027
You are hopeless, imbecile if you fall for cheap Russian info-war.
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>>60994045
Balts merged together have less population that Pooland. It would be useless anyway.
>>60994082
tis lad
>>60994085
Ale on to wytlumaczyl. Nalezal do zwiÄ…zku Jaszczurczego.
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>>60993984
>We shouldn't provoke him
Nice try, Ivan. Putin is aggressive, you don't deal with aggressions by passively lying down and hoping he stops.
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>>60994119
>Nalezal do zwiÄ…zku Jaszczurczego.

:)))))))
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>>60993883
>Friendly reminder that there is an ethnic Belar*sian posting behind a Polish flag who constantly shills for R*ssia.

Belarusians living in Poland are extremely pro-Polish and anti-Russian usually. This one is an intellectually weak Polish kid who watched too many YT-conspiracy movies about "bad USA" and "good Russia" ;)
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>>60994295
>YT-conspiracy movies about "bad USA" and "good Russia" ;)
Where did I say that Mongol aids shithole is good and USA is bad?

They can both perish in a war. This shouldn't concern us. Why not focus on Polish fucking interest but someone elses?
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>>60993984
You guys are huge fucking pansies these days, holy shit. Losing WWII fucked you guys in the head hard.
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He's right.

NATO is the anti-Russia organization anyway.
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>>60993918
And you're a kike shill. You literally can't deny all I've said about Soros. Him and the CIA was the one behind the fake Ukie revolution as well. And if anyone, America's allies, Saudis and Katar is funding terrorists in Syria and NATO-member Turkey is providing logistic support and health care for those goatfucker ISIS. This is open secret.
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>>60984705
germans being pussy faggots again.

good thing nato is shifting east. those guys know what a shit putaine is
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>>60994330
Because Russian """""interests""""" will find itself at your doorway, like it or not.

Do you really have no idea of what has been going on for the past 90 years?
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>>60994330
And there is a fucking idiot sucking American dick because muh hehe survival.

YOU FUCKING IMBECILE FOR THE LAST TIME. THEY WANT TO FIGHT WITH RUSSIA HERE YOU FUCKING DUMB FAGGOT, THEY WANT POLAND TO BE STOMPED, POLISH WOMEN TO GET RAPED WHILE THEY SIT COMFY IN A WARM FUCKING PLACE DRINKING TEA, WATCHING POLES DIE ON THEIR HD TV.

YOU FUCKING STUPID FUCK TRY TO THINK FOR ONE FUCKING SECOND, POLISH ANIMAL.
>>60994425
huir dur russian interests.

go on, go to war with Russia, Belarus and Ukraine on our own fucking territory.

GOO FIGHT FOR AMERICA, DIE FOR AMERICA. 1939-1980 wasn't fucking enough for you imbeciles.
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>>60994402
You sound like "Komsomolskaya Pravda", dude. Your country deliberately reduced itself to a double-prostitute of Germany and Russia, from now on you will experience only more poverty and miseration, meanwhile your government will feed you with antisemitic conspiracy theories so you knew who is to blame for your bad condition ;)
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>>60994467

Jesus, kid, give it up. You are only ridiculing yourself and country that you "represent" now. Play some football with friends instead of watching Russian info-war conspiracy clips on YT.
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>>60994425

dont you worry, we'll look out for our own

but as for you western fuckovers, we'll be damned if we stick out our necks for you.


EVERY GOYIM FOR HIMESELF!!
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>>60994514
I don't represent any country. I don't give a shit about Poland.

I know German, Norwegian, English and Spanish. i can fuck off from here any time I want.

What really hurts me is that Poles didn't change at all since 38. They're still the same stupid animals, ready to get slaughtered for someone elses interest.
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>>60994525
Stop shitposting, kid. Just look how you destroy every thread with your emotional problems.
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>>60994475
He >>60994467 is right and you're fuckin insane.
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>>60994525
>we'll be damned if we stick out our necks for you.
lol, the fuck are you talking about, "for you"? I'm not the one living under threat of Russia. Eastern Europeans are, hence why NATO is conducting exercises there.
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>>60994550
>I don't represent any country. I don't give a shit about Poland.

You sound as if you cared a lot though ;)

> I know German, Norwegian, English and Spanish. i can fuck off from here any time I want.

More doing, less talking ;)
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>>60994594
>:)
>:)
I'm wasting my time.
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>>60994402
Bingo!
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>>60994607
Listen, kid. I understand that you watched few YT-conspiracy-clips about how USA wants to kill all Poles for unknown reasons and you feel "enlighted" enough to shitpost and troll all over this board. But nobody buys it, nobody cares about it, you are only provoking people to ignore Polish posters. Stop shitposting, for fucks sake. Poland is not the center of the fucking universe.
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>>60994672
You must be really stupid.
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>>60994593
lol you fucking pussies

back in the soviet days you western cunts were shitting yourselves when the red army was mobilizing itself to take the rest of germany, and any other yurotrash that got in the way.


just you never forget that little bit
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>>60994692
You are stupid and your stupidity is embarrasing. You are too young to understand it yet.
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>>60994708
First of all, I find it funny that you pretend to have Polish interests at heart (or that you even pretend to be Polish, for that matter) when you just an explicitely pro-USSR post.

Second, USSR never ended up amounting to anything and just collapsed, so I'm not sure what's the reasoning of gloating of the """""""""might"""""""""" of the former USSR.

Finally, Westerners aren't the ones who suffered at the hands of R*ssians during the USSR. Those who suffered were the Czechs, the Hungarians, etc, including Poles (talking about actual Poles here, not Russian 5th columns such as yourself).

Of course this will all go right over your head and you'll probably just reply something retarded about how Russia is going to conquer Canada and how I'm scared of Russian tanks appearing in my hometown, or how I'm actually a Jewish banker who will somehow profit from Poland not being annexed by Russia, instead of focusing on the real-life threats facing Eastern Europe.
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>>60993615
gosh, what a retard
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Can we rangeban Poland? I'll gladly sacrifice myself to make /int/ a better place.
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>>60995179
you can start the rangeban by killing yourself

fuckface
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>>60994899
You must realize that Polish society still consists in big percent from literal idiots. Children and grandchildren of filthy proletariat whose biggest amusement in communist times was drinking vodka during pregnancy and giving birth to retards. We exported a lot of this human trash in last 7 years to Western countries, so Poland looks much better now, we have much smaller criminal ratio, and Poland turned into second safect OECD country thanks to it. But there is still a lot of this human trash in Poland, you can't get rid of all of it unfortunately. These people have no brains, it is very easy to manipulate them. Some of these underclass imbeciles found a new "idol" on YouTube now, a guy with fake surname who presents himself as "Aleksander Jabłonowski". He makes a lot of contradictory theories about evil USA that wants to provoke war on territory of Poland, or about American companies that try to take over water supplies in Poland. It is all a complete fiction, but underclass imbeciles swallow it like hungry pelicans without even checking basic facts. This guy who samefags here and shills for "good relations with Russia" is one of these YT-conspiracy imbeciles.
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>>60995265
YANKEE GO HOME

YANKEE GO HOME

YANKEE GO HOME
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>>60995265


YANKEE GO HOME


YANKEE GO HOME
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HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROOOOOME
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>>60995495
>>60995450
>I'm not an imbecile
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>>60995552
YANKEE GO HOME

YANKEE GO HOME


YANKEE GO HOME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEwzfvPrOfQ
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>>60995450

:))))))
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>>60995179
>Can we rangeban Poland?

Why all Poland? There is only one retard that floods imageboard with anti-american and pro-russian stuff :)
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>>60995625
>>60995495
this
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>>60994402
nothing has changed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbDKsNsjac
cold war just had a temporary ceasefire
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>>60995741
You found a "brother soul" in this retarded troll, huh? :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzuk2UTCBvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h4xiZLm2_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vknzM_HectM
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>>60984705
>SPD
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>>60995900
YANKEE GO HOME

YANKEE GO HOME


YANKEE GO HOME


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_pqJZmHWYs
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>>60996178
give it up, russian troll
your shithole is going to be disintegrated anyway
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>>60996214

YANKEE GO HOME
YANKEE GO HOME
YANKEE GO HOME
YANKEE GO HOME
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>>60984705
Croatia should join the Eurasian Union. It's a more fair market for our shithole, would give us more opportunity in competing on stronger foot and would definitely revive some of our industry rendered obsolete by EU's economic compartmentalisation play
We'd be invaluable, with our geographic position
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>>60996178
> posting some poor turkish aggressive apes
> giving links to russian snake-tv

Turks are good only for humiliating Russians, unfortunately they didn't grow enough balls to shoot down more of Russian aircrafts
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>>60996432
GO HOME AMERICAN TERRORIST!!

GO HOME AMERICAN TERRORIST!!

GO HOME AMERICAN TERRORIST!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Z8luUT_ek
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>>60989528
E.g.?

See, boy:
1. Nato supports revokution in kiev. Russia ANSWERING to it by protecting russian minority and russian interests.
2. Nato moving their warheads(this s.c. missle defense systems in pooland and romania can laucnh Tomahawk missles, which is violation of PCMД agreement) cloae to our borders, testing their bombera near russian bombera(in may B-52 were imitating planting water mines, as i remember, and shit like that reportet by russuan media on weekly basis, like transpotter-off flighta of nato airplanes in baltic, dangeoua movings of nato ships etc etc etc)


So, who is acting agressive?

I am still wondering whete is the limit of c*ckness of europeans. They litetally c*ck Mekrel and she shuts up. They c*ck french banks for dealing outside USA rules. They c*ck europeans by starting USA-profit wars in ME and forcing europeans to take care od rrfugees. Not Quatar or Saudi Arabia, which are culturally xlose to refugees. Not USA, which is rich and spacious. But Europe.

USA GDP grows like 3-4% a year, which is a kt for a developed cuntree
Europe struggling with 1.5%

And also VW case

And also news from May, how USA x*cked Europe with TTIP(trading agreenend, they want to flood eurooean market with their products and cheap GMO food), hahaha, they were literally THREATING(like enemy) EU with 'problems' if europoe will not sign agreement.
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>>60993711
Oh yeah, big bad Russia again. Go buy 50 F-35 jets and 10 coast guard ships(recent news, desu)

Cmon, Norway, do u really think Russia gonna invide you?
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>>60994082
Alright have fun with Russia then Stanislaw
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>>60997080


DEATH TO USA!!!

DEATH TO USA!!!

DEATH TO USA!!!

DEATH TO USA!!!

DEATH TO USA!!!
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And also, why the fuck Europeans can not kick USA out of NATO? It would make their life so easier

Because nowadays NATO is doing nothing good for Europe in Europe, but plays for USA. Its literally ametican agent on european soil.(making me recall amount of CIA and NSA work in Germany)

Why cant Europeans have an European Army, e.g.? Without USA, working only for Europe and its interests.
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>>60997112
pic

>>60997204
Because we created NATO, is its leader and biggest contributor and Europe is content with us paying for their defense. That may not stay the same for so long because many of us back home are getting increasingly unwilling to protect Europe for free.
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>pic
I like this one more.
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>>60997204
Because we don't really have to pay for our own defense, but we basically sell our sovereignty by that
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>>60997345
GUN AN AMERICAN WHORE DOWN!GUN AN AMERICAN WHORE DOWN!GUN AN AMERICAN WHORE DOWN!GUN AN AMERICAN WHORE DOWN!GUN AN AMERICAN WHORE DOWN!GUN AN AMERICAN WHORE DOWN!
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>>60997414
I don't believe that map is historic, the Rzeczpospolita never owned Pskov unless I'm incorrect and I don't believe a Pomeranian Republic nor a Republic of Estonia and Ingermanland in 1920 ever existed.
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>>60984705
But isn't that exactly what it is? Dude is literally just stating the obvious.
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>>60997447
I like this one better.
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>>60997345
>protect Europe
Against? Literally the only reason russia is flexin its shit is NATO.
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>>60986017
>It's one of the reasons why last Red Army troops left Poland only in 1994.
Now that would've been one hell of a Weird 90s War
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>>60997826
in practice its probably each other although in theory its Russia
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>>60997771
I sold my US passport to a middle eastern gentleman, sold my SS# to an illegal mexican and burned my US citizenship papers.

Tell me this my fellow "cuntman", did I help make america great again?
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>>60998058
Not him but you are literally retarded if you did that
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>>60997635
>the Rzeczpospolita never owned Pskov
Eh well it did.
>Pomeranian Republic nor a Republic of Estonia
Unhistoric names.
>in 1920
That should be the 17th century.
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>>60998095
Im glad I didnt own any property in your shithole

I'd also give it away to native american if I did.
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>>60994668
good goy
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>>60998188
It's an Alternate History map.
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>>60998058
>Did completely fucking over my life make America better?
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>>60998872
enjoy your coming war with China

hope they kill a lot of your "patriots"
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>>60986060
I think they've made it clear anyone who shares a border with them and was previously a part of the USSR or Russian Empire has to do what they say or lose territory. I think the Baltic countries fear is well founded. Besides Russia a fucking massive country loves having exercises on their borders so fuck them.
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>>60987165
Yes but don't use logic.
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>>60998973
I hope you get your shit together. Living a life so full of hatred is just like poisoning yourself and waiting for the other person to get sick.
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>>60999486
*smacks his lips
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>>60989434
Who knows? Russians only complain when it serves a purpose (geopolitically or with their own population).
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>>60990053
>Russia isn't a country that respects power
Being a limp wristed pansy isn't a tactic that works with Russia. Hell they'd probably see it as insulting to be dismissive of them. Look at how Putin git along with Bush compared to Obama.
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>>60989964
We e would have had to do it in the 40s and Europe was exhausted then and we were trying to rebuild Western Europe while the USSR was taking a dump on Eastern Europe.
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>>60996058
Kek. Are they basically communism light? At least in English that's usually what "Social Democrat" means.
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Is anyone else tired of poles?

All they do is act like niggers and shill for Poland. Every single thread they're in it's Kremlin-tier shilling. Give me clay, give me Lwow etc.
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Germans have to do this :D:D:D:D

Otherwise no Zyklon B from Nordstream :D:D:D
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>>61000285
go away down under turd

, no one likes austrishits

yous are a penal colony of faggot enablers.
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>>61000285
I'd actually appreciate a Russian takeover of Poland just so we have slightly less crazy butthurt neighbors to the East.
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>>61000375

>yous are a penal colony of faggot enablers.

Is that why so many poles come here?
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>>61000285

dnot isnult polan,polan goud plbmer or il stel jur biek
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>>60995495
Those shoes and boots. 0/10 would not operate with.
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>>61000394
too bad Ivan is currently dying of AIDs while having his clay taken by Arabs at the south and Chinks in the east.


*smacks his lips again
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>>61000394

Are Poles really this butthurt in real life or are the ones on /int/ just particularly bad?
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>>60994082
>and I want to issue a command to shut down the US embassy and expell all americans out of Polan
Fuck you I'd just apply for citizenship
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>germans licking russian anus
Must be the rapebaby genes
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>Soros
Isn't he one of yours?
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>>61000251
>Are they basically communism light?
No, that would be Die Linke
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>>61000472
>shitty uniforms

>would not infiltrate in
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>>61000505
On a family trip I visited a concentration camp in Poland once and there were Poles giving us angry looks when they heard us speak German so I guess the butthurt is real.
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>>61000818
Why on Earth would you go to a concentration camp during a family vacation?
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>>61000971
to teach the kids early on about what do when jew
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>>61000421
>poles


they're just ruski kikes,gypsies and other faggots using us to get to you.

enjoy.
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>Geymans
>still not dead

Why do we let those degenerates destroy civilised world once again?
We ahould kill them all
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>>61000544
>Germany
In order not to escalate the already tense situation between us and our powerful neighbor, we shouldn't pour more oil in the fire by performing useless military exercises right in front of Russia's border.
>Butthurt Belt
"lmao stop licking their anus you cuck, you must be a brainwashed Russian spy or a rape baby, FUCK diplomacy and co-operation I can't wait for a new war with Russia!!!!11!"
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>>61001155
>In order not to escalate the already tense situation between us and our powerful neighbor, we shouldn't pour more oil in the fire by performing useless military exercises right in front of Russia's border.


And why is that?

it's the only way these kacap war mongers will take you seriously that your not fucking around.

next step is to do what Turkey did and start shooting their aircraft down should they start provocative maneuvers and violate airspace.
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>>60992943
>Being proud of sucking american dick
>Being this beta
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>>61000707
It's Delta they don't wear uniforms even in the U.S.
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test
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They look like fucking airsoft to me.
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>>61000394
>Russian takeover of Poland just so we have slightly less crazy butthurt neighbors to the East
Russians are just as crazy and they are butthurt about the U.S. so nothing would change for you.
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>>60997017

They never know with an unpredictable country such as your boarding them
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>>61001254
Sorry but I don't see Russians as subhumans and I definetly don't want to start a new war with them, that would have a bitter ending.
You act too emotional, I know you hate Russia for the whole communism thing in the past, but we shouldn't let hate and revanchism dictate our current politics.
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>>61001590

you're implying letting bygones be bygones

genocide is not a bygone, it should be repaid with genocide


History should never be forgotten, because history has a tendency of repeating itself
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>>60984705
Germany is quickly becoming the village idiot of Europe.
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>>60989982
worked damn well for Ukraine didn't it.

Fuck off gopnik. You're the reason new countries want to join NATO in the first place.
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>>61001696
Funny how I never see any Russians being butthurt at Germany. I mean we killed more than 20 million Soviets after all.
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>>61001728
>becoming
From where I'm sitting they already are. Poland is more rational for Christ's sake. And Poland is supposed to be the class clown of Europe.
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>>61001496
> Russians are just as crazy and they are butthurt about the U.S
Normal people aren't. But no the normies.
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>>61001846
>Funny how I never see any Russians being butthurt at Germany.


thats because youre a newffagot
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>>61001901
I'm not.
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>>61001155
>useless military exercises right in front of Russia's border.
They were pretty useful actually, that's why Pro-russian bots like your SPD minister are so mad.
And since when is western Poland considered "in front of Russia's border"?
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Poles are such little dumb attentionwhores I almost wish Germs and Russians invaded it again to genocide the untermenschen.
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>>61001590
>Sorry but I don't see Russians as subhumans and I definetly don't want to start a new war with them
Except, the world doesn't always go along with what you "want".
Especially if Russia and War are in the equation.
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>>61002038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAcra4jR3Qc&list=RDcWBKFr3AvdA&index=3
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>>61002027
They also performed military exercises in the baltic states and even in Narva, which was a clear provocation
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Germany doesn't want to spend any money on their military....being ashamed that they were and still are Nazis and all...
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>>61001846
Twins tend to hate each other up until adulthood, but then typically suport each other really well. This is a similiar case.

>>61002027
They way it looks russians appear to have forgotten USSR has disbanded.
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>>61002205
We're in a hybrid war with russia. Of course they will practise for a conventional invasion scenario.
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>>61002132
I don't think there are any countries besides Poland, Finland and the Baltic states that want to start a war with Russia. Not even Americans are that insane.
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>>61002294
>>61002294
Vengeance is best served as a cold dish.


these those kacap have a lot of cold dishes to eat up
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>>60999183
Post cannot be more american, kek.
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>>61002206
You jest, but that's sort of the reasoning.

We're pacifist in a pathological way because we saw the horrors of war firsthand in a way no other cunt has, ironic since we were the ones responsible in the first place.

I guess these two aspects - experience with the destruction war brings and being warmongering in the past - has led us to be too peaceful for our own good
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>>60999183
Funny, when this post comes from a country, which ruined every piece of land, which had different from usoa opinion. From panama to vietnam
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Better to suck American cock than Russian.
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>>61002808
How about, neither

since both of them taste like death
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>>61002270
>We're in a hybrid war with russia
Oh. Ahaha. We detected UIDF. Firstly they invented this lol term('hybrid war'), now put it everywhere.

>>61001851
>Poland sucks usa dick
>Germany trying to save Europe ans play dor Europe's interesta, not USA
>Poland, come here, u are so good, unlike thia Germany! Dont be like germany!
Typical usa, kek

>>61002027
Baltic Sea is russian border.
Poland and Baltic Republciks are bordering Russia. R u stupid?
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>>61002650
Germany has been working on improving bundeswehr and its equipment, so its not nearly that tragic

That being said, there are still many neo-nazis. Either young idiots or kids raised in hitlerjugend or their sons. For germany's sake it shouldn't forget the nazi horrors, or dismiss them for being "long ago".
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>>61001774
> You're the reason new countries want to join NATO in the first place.
They want to be nuked/invaded in ww3?
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>>61002869
we're too small to be completely "independent" you either choose between American cock which tastes like wealth, high standards of living, developement, democracy, freedom and all that shit or Russian cock which tastes like opression, poverty, backwardeness, totalitarism

GOD

BLESS
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>>61003042
Nah, kremlinbot, they don't want to be invaded until WW3 comes, if you guys can't stand the thought of not throwing your lives away in a pointless conflict for territorry while barely managing the one you already have.
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>>61003042
The nukes should have flown back during the cuban missile crisis, comrade, back when soviet technology was so inferior more than half of them would have never reached their intended destinations.

but unfortunately the eternal perfidious anglo sold us out once again.

And thus it never happened.
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>>61002294
Not lots of people in Finbroland want to war with us, they se benefits of collaborating.
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>>60984705
>Frank-Walter Steinmeier
Anyone gets an impression he is actually Russian spy? He is not even trying.
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>>61003016
The term has been used since the 2006 Lebanon War.

Roll back the brobaganda
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>>61002670

I guess it's hard to know how to act like a civilized government when your government is only 30 some years old. Because as everyone knows before that you were tyrannical pinko commie assholes.
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>>61003118
> we're too small to be completely "independent"
Only if you are not part of Europe.
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>>61003328
>muh commies
Lol, u are really sound like stereotypical stars-and-stripes vatnik from texas
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>>61002205
Russia wants to rebuild soviet union. They are consuming countries one by one. Ukraine and baltic states will be conquered by Russia yet in next months. We are already having WW3, but not on full scale yet.
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>>61003590
I agree with this. If only the west wasn't a bunch of cunts and left our guns to us.
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>>61003691
Maybe German elite thinks that they are able to avoid WW3. Of course they aren't. We will have around 100-200 mln of victims probably this year yet. Russia wants to conquer Europe, that's why makes military trainings near Western border with using 200.000 soldiers, that's why builds 1500 tanks / year and around 3000 helicopters and aircrafts. Germany is probably so shocked that is unable to think rationally. If we want to save Europe, we must nuke Russia preventively. I hope that NATO is going to do it soon, otherwise we all are dead
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>>61003590
>>61003691
I genuinely think you guys are mentally challenged. Seek help.
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>>61003864
So tell me for what reason Russia produced over 3000 units of new aircrafts and helicopters per year? Why is exercising conventional attack with using 200.000 soldiers near Western border in the region of baltics? We are going to have a total war in next few months. Russia is ruled by satanic jewry that wants to erase whole Europe from the planet.
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>>61003808
I can't agree with the latter part. Preventive nuking is a shitty idea, especially with a country as big as russia. The disadvantage of europe is that you can nuke it easily because everything is so close together.

>>61003864
Fuck off, your country gave up rational thinking a long time ago.
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>>61003691
these western pricks (especially the britshits) think it wont affect them, or they'll just pull the switcheroo and strike a bargain with the kacap.

but it will hit them the most.

We'll make sure of that
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>>61003959
I think that Perimeter is a bluff. Russia is pretty depopulated now and they experienced massive movements of population from glubinka to cities. If we nuked all their biggest cities, it would be pretty much the end of Russian nation
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>>61003864
You're just a faggot with russian dick up in your ass and turkish one in mouth.
You will be fucked by them to death.
Also
>germany
>has smaller army than poles
>acts like a big boy
All of my keks.
Kill yourself
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>>61002294
I don't think you understand - only small fringe in those countries "want war with Russia", but the vast majority is completely sure that if left unchecked, the russian agression will turn against them sooner or later.
And before you start talking about "giving Russia some space", "not invading russian sphere of influence" and all that usual bullshit - Russians still think about themselves as an Imperial Power, with Imperial Power ambitions and demands i.e. all neighbour countries should get on their knees and start praising the glorious Russia (Panslavism, the bulwark of morality, non-degenerated culture, etc.).
Plus, the "Russian sphere of influence" extends for Kremlin as far as it is possible until someone makes show of force to keep it in check.
Then Moscow propaganda machine and useful idiots start to spew all that bullshit about "attack on Motherland", "ingratitude of countires that we liberated" or "US plan to keep Russia on its knees".
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>>61003937
>We are going to have a total war in next few months
You've been saying that for 2 years now. I don't think it will happen, but yeah we will see.
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>>61003016
>Baltic Sea is russian border.
Atlantic Ocean and Pacific are also your borders by that logic.
>YOU PEOPLE STOP PROVOKING RUSSIA WITH ACTIVITY ON THOSE OCEANS!
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>>61004070
>the vast majority is completely sure that if left unchecked, the russian agression will turn against them sooner or later
not really ( >>60993984 )
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>>61004045
k
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>>61003937
>Russia is ruled by satanic jewry that wants to erase whole Europe from the planet.


And the USA isnt

no no my friend

they're always been one and the same axis.

playing "good cop bad cop" with all the little assholes of the world.

Their aim is to reignite a new "cold war" because that was the time they kept the little asshole terrified of them and at the same time "keeping their friends close but their enemies even closer"
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>>61004288
The question is different there.
I myself would prefere to have "strong economic relationship with Russia", since we import raw resources from them, and export to Russia is nicely diversified.
HOWEVER.
"Strong economic relationships" requires rational thinking and acting people on both sides, playing by rules accepted by all interested sides. However, Russians act only in their own, sometimes really weird, "interest".
Remember the apples embargo?
Last year russian PRIME MISTER, publicly claimed that embargo was enforced, because Poles kept best apple for themselves, and sent to Russia only wormy fruits, or sprayed with chemicals, to poison innocent Russians.
So much for rationality in Russia.
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