Chinese language learning thread.
We share our experiences, opinions and resources about 普通话
How are things going gentlemen? Ugly for me.
>>60980920
>Chinese language learning
but why
PING PONG CHING CHANG TING ZONG RICE BARR
seems relevant
>>60981030
because i like the language?
Because i already know korean and it's useful to learn also chinese?
Because i wanna make a fucking trip to China and speak the language to local people?
>>60981079
>Because i already know korean
For what purpose??
wó yáo sex
Fuck cant even type chinese pronounciation sticks its not there
>>60981098
need it for work.
>>60980920
这是日本的汉字 学
许多的中文的汉字是日本的汉字
>>60980920
我去年在中国住了。今年我回来美国。在中国我学习普通话,但是我现在忘了很多的汉语。你有中文教师吗? 我可能去confucious institute,但是我不知道如果那学校是好的。。。
>>60981493
My feels exactly
Stopped using chinese 2 years(stop learning 6years ago after graduating chinese middle school) i forgot all the shit
Fml
No Chinese qts near me too
went to a chinese curse that my uni was offering last,felt like i didnt learn shit,now i dont rememeber anything
i dont know if its worht the effort,i wont go to china anytime soon anyways
>>60981615
>chinese middle school
why
你们学中文多久了?
>>60981493
加油!不要忘记你的中文。
我现在也没有中国老师,所以我读中国漫画,用中国forums和lang-8。
>>60981101
wǒ yào cāo nǐ mā
trust me on this one
大家好!
今年九月我要在大学读中文~
>>60982961
good luck lad.
If You Are The One is a pretty entertaining show.
>>60983830
this awesome aussie delivers.
>>60981079
You seem so unsure of yourself?
Start making statements and stop using question marks?
>>60983967
stay on topic please?
>>60983992
Why so desperate to steer away from the question?
Because you know it's true?
Annoying, isn't it?
>>60983992
I'm interested in this topic but I can't help myself?
I get angry when people end statements with interrogative punctuation?
It seems very passive agressive and presumptuous?
Have you tried using any Chinese keyboard typing methods. Which one is your favorite.
>>60983950
*a line of red x's appears accompanied by a series of sci fi laser sounds*
>>60984178
I dunno? The one in windows?
>>60981493
I'll start lessons at the Confucius Institute in September.
Did you go there? Was it good? I believe they're kinda standardized curriculum wise
>>60984245
I've tried it for three months and it was ok.
Considering how hard the language is you're gonna need it and a shitload of homeworks.
>>60984231
There's one that works with pinyin and one that works with shapes. The pinyin way seems easier but maybe the shape way is best long term. Tbh I'd eventually like to shitpost on h.nimingban.com but I can't do that if I can't type!
>>60984317
then the pinyin one i guess?
>>60981493
( ´ー｀)ﾌｩｰ...日本人である俺はなんとなく意味が分かってしまう。
中国語は読み書き限定だったらクッソ簡単な言語なんだよなぁ
I want to learn bopomofo because Taiwan #1
>>60984335
Have more confidence in your words?
>>60984378
still off topic lad?
>>60984336
言語は簡単じゃないよ。あいつの言葉遣いだけだよ。
中国語が習いたいのか?
面白い言語だよ。
>>60984868
We could say it's far easier than learning English.
>>60984868
まぁ確かに言語は簡単じゃないな。中国語には興味あるからいろいろと落ち着いたら学習する予定
>>60985022
多分そうだな。
漢字の影響で語彙力が増やしやすいが、文法が違ってるね。
発音も時々難しいと思うね。日本人にとって。
>>60985033
俺はいつか三国志演義が中国語で読みたい。面白すぎる話で、原書を読むのが多分勉強になるね。
もう少し具体的な予定がある?
語彙を増やすためのアップリを探すなら、「Anki」は俺の勧め。
>>60981012
死ね
>>60985316
>発音も時々難しいと思うね
ときどきどころの話じゃない。
四声はもちろん、巻き舌のchiなんて日本語に存在しないから発音難しい。
アメリカ人が中国人を揶揄するのにchinchonて言うのなんとなくわかる。
発音が独特だから。
発音だけならさらに難易度高いの韓国語
>>60985702
日本語は別の音の数があまり高くないんだね。
四声は初めに難しいが、広東語の声調と比べて全然難しくないよ。
最近は、官話の四声があまり大事じゃない。いろいろ中国語を聞くとすぐに慣れる。
でも日本語では、「si」と「shi」の違いがないんだね。
「qi」と「chi」
「shi」と「xi」
「zhi」と「ji」と「zi」
という差が全部日本人に習いにくいね。
一番習いにくいのは多分中国語の成語だけど。中国語では、成語がとってもよく使われて、数も凄く高い。
Pls give Chinese movie suggestions
>>60986101
張藝謀 is one of the best directors
I can recommend his:
活著
大紅燈籠高高掛
英雄
十面埋伏
Apart from that, you should really watch:
臥虎藏龍
霸王別姬
The 三國 2010 tv series
And probably some more movies I might think of later.
>>60986101
This. Is there anything worth your time watching that isn't Zhang Yimou's?
>>60986374
>>60986280
>臥虎藏龍
>霸王別姬
>The 三國 2010 tv series
I also really liked 刺客聶隱娘, but many people thought it was to slow and not eventful enough.
In my opinion, it is a piece of art that conveys a sublime, calm, and refined feeling, but I can understand if those words sound very pretentious to you. It's hard to describe it though.
The aesthetics are just really nice, every shot is a picture that you should let sink into your mind and memory.
Don't watch it if you lack patience and prefer action.
>>60986540
*too slow
>>60986066
>日本語は別の音の数があまり高くないんだね
日本語は文法も発音も難しくないから、日本人でよかったと外国語勉強した後思う。
>>60986066
昔から日本人は、発音そっちのけで、レ点や一二点とか付けて
漢詩を日本語読みで読んでたからな。
そういや昔と文法かわってて中国人もそのままじゃ漢文読めないって前に話を聞いた。
>>60986695
中国語の文法もあまり難しくないが、日本語と違ってるんだけだね。
>>60986947
漢文は全部古文で書いてるので、あまり教育のない中国人にも難しい。
古文の文法が今の官話より凄く難しいが、学位を持つ中国人は多分いろいろ漢文を読んだことがある。
Any real chinese here?
>>60987249
I suppose you're the only one.
Do you go to uni in Singapore?
Have any other recommendations to add to >>60986280 ?
>>60987194
>漢文は全部古文で書いてるので、あまり教育のない中国人にも難しい。
文語を読まされる感じか。
たしかに古文は日本語じゃない感じだもんな。それと同じか。
alright ill hit ya with my best mandarin
wo meitian zai jiali genpengyou yiqi gan ni ma
how did i do
>>60987509
中国の古文と官話の差が多分日本語と日本の古文の差みたいね。
でも中国の古文は今でも日本の古文よりよく読まれたと思う。
古文中国語は多分東アジアのラテン語だね。
ラテン語もまだ使われてないが、いろいろヨーロッパの文化が大きな影響を受けた文書がある。
なお、今でもオランダ語でいろいろなラテン語の成語がある。
>>60987605
My mom wasn't very impressed.
>>60987605
How can i read your shit if you don't have pinyin marks
puk gai
>>60988141
"我每天在家裡跟朋友一起幹你媽"
>>60988187
How can I read your shit if you don't use the mainland simplified characters
Puk gai
>>60988521
>mainland simplified characters
>>60988593
dank u voor het vertalen , ik begrijp nu
>>60988692
冇問題
>>60988141
this chinese cunts in my video games manage just fine without those silly marks surely you lads can
>>60988900
How did you even learn such a stupid phrase? Stop pretending you're not a chink.
>>60988935
sorry lad im not a chink
i learned a few words off a youtube video
the language is complete garbage but i do like some things about chinese culture
大家好!我係香港人,如果你中文有啲咩唔識可以黎問我
>>60989124
My only question is if you have anything to add to this list >>60986280
Just finished Chinese 1A as a gen ed at uni.
It was pretty hard and I'm shit, but its the most of a language I've ever been able to learn so far.
我姓anon,叫anon。我是学生。
我是新西兰人。 你是哪国人?
明天是星期二。 你晚上几点睡觉?
>>60990254
How long did that take you?
>>60989426
無間道
古惑仔
功夫
少林足球
國產凌凌漆
千王之王
三五成群
超級學校霸王
>>60990520
1 semester, so around 12 weeks.
I can probably write around 100-200 words about myself, family, plans/schooling etc.
Speaking, probably the same but bit more borderline as its easier to understand fellow students than fluent fast talking chinese people.
>>60990712
非常感謝
>>60981030
Because it's cool.
>>60990837
You learned how to write them?
Using Anki you could have learnt around 1500 words in the same time, but without the stroke orders etc.
tbqh, since most communication is digital now, you can suffice with being able to write your own name and address in Chinese, and for the rest just being able to read it and input it in your phone/pc.
>>60984353
>unrecognized "country"
>#1
>>60991082
It's a meme you dipshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0vUlljX0I
Bump
>>60992190
这个字什么意思?
>>60995505
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%93%E3%83%A3%E3%83%B3%E9%BA%BA
>>60995725
>tfw my gf calls me 黃金豬
>>60995600
oh, I wonder if memorizing this hanzi to describe the name of a dish is really worth the effort.
>>60995962
Probably not. You can memorize it to show off.
>>60981264
日本偷了!
>>60995505
一种面条,从来陕西省。
>>60996514
Simplifying makes this character less intimidating. Simplifying always works. Thanks simplified Chinese, the greatest invention of China!
>>60997199
>simplified Chinese, the greatest invention of China
simplified chinese is shit though
Hello lads, sorry to interrupt your conversation in Chinese, but I was wondering, could you give me some pointers on where to learn Chinese online, and how.
I'm thinking of learning Traditional Mandarin, because I may have chances of getting work in Taiwan, and I don't really like China Mainland. Nothing political or anything like that, it's just that it seems really polluted and corrupted, and at times, sorry for the term, uncivilized.
>>60980920
Does anyone know any chinese imageboard? I heard about chinese policy against WorldWideWeb but still there's got to be at least one chan.
>>60999218
They have that internet portal, Baidu or something. It's quite extensive and there's a lot to do there apparently.
>>60999411
Baidu is the Chinese equivalent of Google
And to start learning Chinese, it's the same process as anything else that is difficult: just start with the first book on a large stack of resources
You can torrent the Chinese learning pack, it has pretty much everything you will need (except the human interaction)
Go Speaky is a community with many Taiwanese people who will help you. Not sure if they will want to talk to a Serb but it's worth a try.
I'm probably going to need to learn Mandarin Chinese in grad school. I'm going to be going to a school that's notorious for grade deflation, so how hard is it going to be to learn it in grad school?
>>60999749
note that I'm already proficient in Wolof and French, so I have some language experience
>>60999218
komica.org, it's inhabited mainly by taiwan so expect to see a lot of traditional chinese.
>>60999749
>>60999898
Wow, rare, post your Wolof language skills on vocaroo
>>60999973
Aint working for me. Maybe hg boards?
>>61000182
try web.komica.org/
>>60999675
Thanks for the tips mate, and about that community, is that a langauge exchange site?
I can understand why they wouldn't want to talk to a Serb then, although, I could pose as an English speaker, I deem myself fluent.
>>60999973
Thanks for the website mate, I'm gonna have fun exploring it.
>>61000182
Worked for me, maybe Russia is censored or something, or it's your addblock, who knows.
>>61000351
Even VPN didn't help.
>>60997199
woah isn't this character used for some type of noodle?
>>61000475
>>61000568
Okay, than that must be my provider, I guess.
Thanks.
朋友你好喜歡你嗎?
>>61000568
>>61000568
Пoгoди, этo ж TOP?
>>61000568
You got a blank page at the beginning?
I did too, you should click on something on the left belt, those are boards I presume, then threads will appear, just like here.
>>61000096
Don't really want to, so I'm just going to translate what you just said:
Hai-ee-lai-lai (expression), li barewul dara, waxal ci Wolof ak vocaroo
the above would be pronounced (not counting the opening expression) "lee, bar-ay-ool dara, wah-hal chee oh-loff ak vacaroo"
word for word it's basically "omg, rare nothing (i.e. super rare), you speak in Wolof with vacaroo"
>>61000702
нeт
>>61000763
>>60984353
i studied chinese in taiwan and nobody is going to teach foreigners zhuyin because that'd just be retarded
>>61000876
I don't send any message fugg
>>61000938
I learned it on my own in a couple of weeks, it's not too hard if you practice it often enough.
>>61000640
你在說什麼啊?
>>61000811
(You)
Nice flag
>>60996514
*从陕西省。
>>61001857
That's plenty imo, food in Taiwan is piss cheap, the rent can get a little out of hand if you live near Taipei but that's about it.
>>60990254
新西兰没你好。我是美国人,我住在波士顿boston的附近。我刚刚毕业了高中,我在八月会上大学,可是现在我没有工作,我也不实习,所以我找工作。
>>61001857
18k should be more than enough
rent is like 2-300€ per month, probably closer to 300 if you get your own apartment
food is really cheap if you eat asian stuff, you can get away with 1€ per meal. western food is more expensive
bus rides are 0.4-0.8€, subway is 0.5€ and up, and usually you can pay with your student ID card and get a 20% discount. at least in Taipei where I lived
>>61003634
你是那个在加州,学中文已经十来年的中文达人吗
>>61004993
I imagine food prices in Taiwan are similar to the mainland. In Shanghai I paid 3 kuai per baozi and 1 kuai per jiaozi. I miss the cheap food and being able to eat at restaurants for every meal.
这里有没有走资派人?
>tfw study Chinese for week or two, then get lazy and stop practicing for over a month until I get motivated again
>>61005396
If you're able to afford it, you should consider signing up for classes at a college. That tends to motivate people.
Do you lads know where to find some good Chinese music?
>>61005719
Check out the QQ music app. I'm pretty sure you can use it outside of China.
>>61005667
2 baozi filled me right up for breakfast 2bh.
The Lanzhou noodle place I frequented had a bowl of ramen for I think 12 kuai. I see your point, though.
finishing HSK1, shit is so cash
>>61005895
加油!
>>61004993
>Where did you guys always eat so cheap?
I mostly ate western food, but I went with my gf sometimes when she bought food and she always paid like 35NT for a bowl of noodles, vegetables and some meat/fish etc
>Did you stay at a dorm or something?
I rented an apartment with my gf, the rent was 11k NT, so 5500 each. Living with someone else can save you a lot of money
>Also how old were the people in class?
Most of us were 20-25, so being 26 isn't gonna be weird
![IMG_1009[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tDHxosk.jpg "IMG_1009[1].jpg")
>>61005950
>>61006655
What made you decide to study Chinese?
>>61006860
I had to reside in China because of my job(textile trading) and I liked it very much, my dream is to live there again
>>61006655
Nice numbers.
>>61006860
I was thinking of learning Chinese recently, cause I want to live in Taiwan. The problem with Chinese is, that I don't like the sound of it. It looks pretty written but I don't like how it sounds. But I really like Chinese culture so I'm somewhat torn there.
>>61007193
Mandarin sounds badass tbqh.
>>61007021
Nice. I met a few Russians in Shanghai. They seemed pretty nice.
>>61007193
When I first started studying Chinese I didn't really care for how it sounded either, but as I've studied it more I've started to like how it sounds. Maybe the same thing will happen for you. Especially if you're wanting to live in Taiwan, Mainland guys have told me that the way Taiwanese girls speak is rather qt and nice to listen to
>>61007267
It does, but it has a lot of 'moaning', like Korean, which is why dislike that language too.
Not nearly as much moaning as Cantonese though.
Mandarin sounds pretty when talked slowly, but everyone speaks so fast.
>>61007349
I'm quite a competent Software Engineer, so I hope that I can apply for a job there. Although, after I finished college, I applied for some extra courses to further hone my knowledge.
>>61007470
Being a software engineer should definitely increase your chances of finding a job there.
>>61005719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnocas7VkKo
This is a really nice album (indie rock)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npLO9Jq-F3E
Queen Sea Big Shark is pretty nice too (also indie rock)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q2DrrQ33OQ
Typical guy with sad lyrics and guitar I came across while clicking videos on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v489sYYjtHI
Jay Chou. Super well known Taiwanese singer that one of the HK flags here seems to be a fan of. I think his songs are pretty standard, but perhaps you like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS1MtYEdtZY
Pretty nice song that a Jap flag once posted in a thread were people were asked whether or not they like China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MonpK_idldc
The best song on the whole internet.
>>61007549
That's nice to hear.
How are foreigners treated in Taiwan?
The ones that get citizenship eventually.
What are the most comfortable places to live?
I don't mean, comfortable as in convinent, that would be Taipei without question. I was meaning more in terms of family friendly cities, close to forests and such.
Sorry for so many questions, I might be a bother. I'm far from living there though, I don't want to go there without knowing the language, to me that's disrespectful.
>>61007863
Thanks for the songs, I really appreciate it.
>>61008031
No problem, which ones do you like?
What I hear about Taiwan is that the people are really open and friendly compared to Japanese, yet mannered as well.
And I hear that scooters are the most popular means of transport. Which is pretty funny.
>>61008031
Unfortunately I can't really answer those questions as I've only lived in Mainland China and have never been to Taiwan. I hope to study in Taiwan next summer, though.
>I'm far from living there though, I don't want to go there without knowing the language, to me that's disrespectful.
It's definitely good to know the basics before you go. Don't worry about achieving an advanced level or anything before going, though. If you arrive having a basic knowledge of Mandarin and you make sure to set aside some time daily for formal studying, your studying plus the immersion environment will allow you to quickly advance your level (key point here is actually doing that studying, as some foreigners go to China or Taiwan saying "oh yeah, I'll study in my free time" but procrastinate and never actually do study). Learning a few words of Taiwanese Hokkien might be nice as well, because if Taiwan is anything like Mainland China, a good amount of people won't expect you to know a word of Mandarin let alone the local dialect, so being able to say a few Hokkien phrases likely helps show people you're really interested in Taiwan. When I lived with a host family in Shanghai they really liked how I knew a few Shanghainese phrases. It's up to you, though. Of course Mandarin should be your top priority.
>>61008461
I really liked the second to last one, Jay Chou was decent. The 'typical sad guy' has an interesting music video. QSBS was also good. I'm in the midst of listening to the 1st album now, really good thus far.
That's good to hear.
How would they feel about a foreigner marrying a girl there? I don't have yellow fever, don't worry, just wondering, if I fall in love and marry someone there, hopefully she won't face discrimination for being with me.
>>61008660
There was one video in which a really ugly guy gets shittalked by a random Taiwanese guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYYVATuLwCA
I heard that the Taiwanese populace was really shocked about it and that they really hadn't imagine such a thing could happen there, so I guess it's pretty okay in general.
>>61008626
Okay mate, thanks for the tips and making time to answer me.
What do you study?
>>61008660
>How would they feel about a foreigner marrying a girl there?
From what I've heard, discrimination is very rare in Taiwan (at least with regards to white people, can't say for other races)
There was this incident >>61008757
but as Dutch-Anon says, Taiwan was shocked and heavily criticized the Taiwanese guy who was insulting the white guy, saying that he was ruining Taiwan's reputation and whatnot. I'm pretty sure the Taiwanese guy lost his job as a result (and lost a shitload of face).
>>61008765
Chinese and Computer Science.
>>61008757
Yeah, I watched that video. The Taiwanese man looked like he was drunk or something and was trying to provoke him to attack him. Although, he might just be /r9k/-tier salty about women not noticing him. Maybe the girl was really pretty so he was angry about how such an ugly foreigner (that dude is really ugly) got a girl but he can't. But that's bullshit theorizing.
Thankfully, I'm really good looking, so I won't be called ugly there. Just kidding ofcourse. I'm not worried about myself, I can take shit. We Serbs are the furthest away from special snowflakes. I was just worried, if my hypothetical spouse would get abuse.
>>61008962
Well, the way it blew up and caused such a massive uproar somewhat proves how rare it is.
Computer Science is really nice, are you planning to get a job there after finishing your studies?
>>61008947
Will do mate. That's nice to know.
I feel like we take women for granted here, especially after traveling abroad. Our women are really good looking on average, while I was abroad, British Isles and Japan mainly, I was horrified on how ugly women were. Japanese girls not so much though, although those teeth are a no-go, but it's a fashion trend of theirs, who am I to judge.
>>61009172
I'm still not too sure what I want to do. I haven't started college yet, actually. I start soon. I graduated from high school last year and took a year off to live in China and Japan for a few months. For my Chinese major, though, I have to live in China for a year and intern at a company there, which should help me decide on a career. I'm thinking I'd either like to go into interpretation or China or Taiwan's tech industry.
>>61009395
I heard that working in Mainland China is a bit of a hassle, people rarely do the job as agreed upon. They move deadlines, do subpar jobs, although, when you work for serious companies you surely won't encounter that.
>learn Chinese
>can't even read Chinese comics
>>60981167
you don't know korean senpai
>>61009636
Yeah, I guess it definitely depends on the company. It'd be cool to live in Taiwan and eventually become a citizen, although I suppose I should actually go to Taiwan first to see if I like it. There's a former American who became a Taiwanese citizenship and ended up serving in the Taiwanese army. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TC_Lin
>>61009727
You might be able to find comics suited for your level. Also remember that the first few pages of a book will be the hardest to read, but it gets better as you go on.
>>61009825
Endgame would be getting citizenship. Getting a Chinese would be a problem, because my name is really long. Thankfully, the syllables of my name are easy to replicate in Chinese, so I can just shorten my name.
I generally dislike tropical climates, but Taiwan really looks gorgeous with its nature. I'd really like to live there, although they have some legitemately spooky insects there.
>>61010082
I imagine that you should use flashcards like Anki to nail the hanzi in your brain. As for pronounciation and writing, there's a neat phone app called ChineseSkill, there's pronounciation and writing order for each character.
>>61010233
Just note that a lot of people don't end up going through with getting a citizenship because if you're 35 or under, you're required to serve in the military. You also have you give up any other citizenships you have. For some people, that might not matter, but for others, they don't want to give up their US or EU citizenship.
>>61010525
I don't particularly mind serving military, although I can imagine why it might pose a problem.
Giving up citizenship is not a problem.
>>61010656
>Giving up citizenship is not a problem.
I thought Serbs were nationalist and removed kebab...
>>61010982
I meant it like, I can get it back afterwards by Serbian law, so it's not a problem to give up citizenship.
Also, our economy is still shit after the 90's crisis, so, if I can't be useful here, I'll be useful somewhere else. Nationalism has nothing to do with it, and I'm really nationalistic.
Although, we have a chance to pull ourselves out of shit, but it all depends on this traitorous pro-EU government. For example, the Chinese president came to Serbia this Friday, and he stayed here for three days. We've signed contracts that will supposedly grant us the highest degree of economic cooperation one can have with China.
Russia also, is proposing that we join the Euro-Asian Union. I'd like us to join, not because of Russia, but because we will be useful, unlike in the EU, where we would be just an another failed state. We have one of the most fertile soils in Europe, we could feed Russia, which is pretty barren and gain huge profits.
>>61005123
不是,我不是加州人,我也没学汉语学了十年,我只学汉语学了四年了。
>>60984317
haha, shitposting in other languages is my main motivation to learn
>>60980920
I'd like to learn, i had a chinese friend who use to teach me a bit, i can only remember this though :
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JQuCj2QfQX
How does someone learn Chinese by variable sources on the web? Also, too skint for lessons.
>>61013457
http://www.learnnc.org/lp/pages/6427
http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/pronunciation/
http://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/
https://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php
>>61013509
>>61013509
Xie xie ni amerifam.
>>61013509
Hey amerifam, got any tips and tricks on how I should approach it?
>>61013509
How was my pronunciation btw ? Did it make any sense ?
damn nice thread going on here
>>61013786
Start with learning Pinyin practicing your pronunciation and tones. Once you get to vocab, Anki is helpful. Pleco is also the best phone dictionary app.
>>61013869
I understood a bit, not bad senpai. What were the full sentences you were saying?
>>61015806
Amerifam, fuck yeah. I thank you with my most wholehearted gratitude.
Yours faithfully,
Dutchfag 5314, 010
>>61015806
"Hi, I'm french, i don't speak chinese"
>>61015920
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0INN3YpK9bC
I am not so good, but perhaps try these tones?
>>61013457
Get some chink qt on interpals to teach you, then you can ask her questions about the basics and have her teach you pronunciation and such.
I regularly skype with a grill who can't speak english, it's pretty neat.
>>61015920
This is good >>61016256
Spain-bro's pronunciation of guo 国 reminds me of the Guizhou dialect - They say gui for 国
結構息の長いスレだな
I know speaking Chinese will be quite important in the future. BUT I CAN'T COPE WITH HOW HORRIBLE IT SOUNDS. It's painfully horrible. How do I deal with this? Did it happen to you? What did you do?
>>61017544
See the 2nd part of >>61007349
>>61017532
おはよう、日本さん
中国語を勉強してるの?
QUICK WHAT ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO SAY IN ITALIAN
>>61017595
アメリカさん、おはよう。
今は全然中国語やってない。
大学のときに第二外国語を中国語にしてた。
覚えてる中国語は
我是日本人
ぐらい。
このスレ、しょっぱなに日本を揶揄する糞レスあったりして(もう削除されてるけど)
糞スレ化してすぐアーカイブに落ちるかと思ったけど、
わりとまともなレスもあって息が長くて驚いたんで。
>>60986101
Stranglehold, even though that's Cantonese.
Alternatively, Shaolin Soccer.
>>61017595
遅く死ねなさい
>>60983967
>>60984117
>>60984178
You are such an autistic faggot?
Kill yourself?
>>61018100
what do you mean ?
>>61018273
I wish for him to die slowly
>>61018366
i've got it
thank you
>>61017544
I feel exactly the same about the Beaner language living here in LA.
I want to learn Cantonese, is there an online service that helps?
>>60999127
an app called ChineseSkill seems to have the option to learn traditional characters.
>>60999218
nimingban
>>61017905
そうか
>揶揄
面白くて新しい単語 w
日本人歡迎來到中文主題
(日本人は中国語スレへようこそ)
天上天下唯我独尊
My favorite word
>>61020403
燕雀安知鴻鵠之志哉
many japanese like this sentence
>>61020403
王侯将相寧有種也
my favorite line.
>>60980920
bros is it absolutely necessary to start learning with a tutor?
english is not my native language, and the way I learned it I would say having a tutor is a must in the beginning. but past all grammar (which really is easy to learn) you dont need a tutor.
same for chinese?
>>61022362
While it's not necessary, if you're able to get a tutor, definitely do it. It'd be a major help with learning the tones and pronunciation (it's better to get a good grip on the tones early on).
>>61018573
With regards to teachers, there's italki. As for resources, look at http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/ and the dictionary as well http://www.cantonese.sheik.co.uk/dictionary/
>know japanese
>can very vaguely guess the meaning of simple chinese sentences like >>60981493
what I don't know is where to formally study the grammar
it's a shame it's such a buttfuck ugly sounding language
>>61022673
https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/
>>61017701
vaffanculo, porca madonna, ma che cazzo, porco dio
Korean American here and chink language student
what is the quickest way to learn traditional chink characters?
also I want to study chink on chink island and bang some island chink girls. how do I do that as a UC student?
>>61023569
anki
diligence
What's the best way to learn Classical Chinese? I'm a native Chinese speaker but can't read very well. Not interested in modern Mandarin desu but am an aficionado of ancient languages (can read Latin with reasonable competency), and would like to add Ancient Chinese to my repertoire. Also, how feasible would it be to learn Classical Chinese with Middle Chinese rather than Mandarin pronunciations?
>>61024409
https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Literary-Chinese-Harvard-Monographs/dp/067402270X/
>Also, how feasible would it be to learn Classical Chinese with Middle Chinese rather than Mandarin pronunciations?
I feel like it'd be very hard unless you read linguistic papers.
This looks cool though http://www.eastling.org/tdfweb/midage.aspx
http://www.academia.edu/2261552/Introduction_to_Chinese_historical_phonology
>>61023569
bond over your mutual hatred of us
>there are people who learn Chinese by choice
Every time I see one of these threads I experience the same sense of wonderment and compassion
>>61024680
You remind me of a teenager I met in rural China. He was kind of surprised to meet a foreigner who studies Chinese, perhaps because Mainland Chinese students go through so much trouble to learn English. Out of curiosity, why do these threads surprise you? After all, China is rather economically important nowadays and a lot of people like Chinese history as well, so to me at least it seems like it should be expected that a decent amount of people are interested in learning Chinese.
>>60986101
the only good movies made by chinks were all from hong kong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1sGeWxbkc
>>61024898
chinese in singapore is taught in absolute shitty ways. it is impossible to not hate chinese as a language if you grow up here.
>>61024945
This
>>61024898
Modern Chinese culture is an utter nightmare. If you get run over by a car, no one will help you; everyone wants to swindle you; doctors won't lift a finger if your skull is caved in but you don't have the money at the moment. People shit and spit all over rural streets and start fights or quarrels over the stupidest shit. Any of the culture and art they had in the past has been wiped out by Mao, everyone there is a greedy idiot and any film, music, literature of note can only originate from outside mainland China. China is where the worst of western commercialization meets the worst of the eastern hive-mind. And if you're a white man speaking Chinese, chances are employers will send you there to work, where you will promptly regret your life choices.
>>60981030
Isn't it required in your country?
to be fair, >>61025145 describes the chunk of china that is loud, rude and uncultured - i do have nice mainland friends who are quiet and polite, but they're REALLY quiet and go undetected. you just need 1 million out of 10 million chinks to be shit to ruin it for everyone. the only reason i'd recommend a whitey learn pu tong hua, is because learning modern mandarin is a good bridging tool for whiteys to eventually learn traidtional chinese and go to taiwan. taiwan is nice.
>>61024945
what, canto,hakka, hokkien or teochewnese?
>>61024576
lol taiwanese likes you more though
>>61027548
Not him, but standard mandarin. 官语 or 普通话. We don't learn dialects here
