This thread is for the discussion of the language, culture, travel, daily life, etc. of Japan.
Let's tark at randam in Japanese and English. Take it easy!
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今までのスレ一覧
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Real Kana
>http://www.realkana.com/
How to Learn Japanese
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jrMXTVapkGlYSyQDwppETbz62ltcknJITQ7ll6bH8QM/edit?pli=1#
100 most common Japanese words
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GK7W2AwWsQr5VvgDYRMKSrhTJhDSkB5_jlaVGJks-Hc/pub
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otukaresamadesita
which thread should i post
>>60918814
困るよな
外国旗は向こうにいってしまった
>>60918814
Plz judge it by common sense.
why did Japanese thread ruin
>>60919071
そりゃいいことよ
>>60918814
Follow your heart, anon.
あの英国旗はタイと同一人物かもな
明確な悪意を感じられる
>>60919141
as a result of having followed my dick, i decided to go to /gif/
see you
>>60919218
what?
>>60918814
I'll eat this from now
また豪雨だ
>>60919218
全く文体が違う
>>60919407
辛そう
>>60919450
セーヌ川が、また氾濫しそう?
>>60919587
ついさっき見たらまた上がっていたようだ
>>60919261
If it brings you happiness, I can think of no reason to complain.
>>60919407
中本こんな時間にやってた?
北極は久しく食べてない
good
もやしってどんな味?
>>60920444
味はあんまりしない
can you do this with a pen and your lips?
>>60921035
Easily. I don't think that's very hard.
Himouto! Umaru-chan is my favorite animé.
>>60921035
I'm smelling the odor smell stuck the upper lip to the nose every day.
おはよう
てかまたスレ分裂してるしてるんだけど
どっちが本スレなんだ?
>>60922616
>してるしてる
*してる
朝だからあまり頭が回ってないみたいだ…
>>60922616
スレ画見りゃわかるだろ
>>60921795
どんな匂い?
こんにちは、私はここに新たなんです
関連の絵は私のガールフレンドであります
あなたは非常にきれいすごいわーと思うかもしれないが、しかし私は日本を嫌いではありません
私のガールフレンドは、スーパー任天堂やおいしいものをイカボールのように、そこから派生されていませんが、私はあまりにも日本文化が好き
私は真の友人として私を見てのためにあなたを考えたい、しかし旅は月の韓国への旅で終わります。しかし、私はあなたとの時間を楽しみました
>>60922787
まぁ確かに。
でも外国旗は結構あのイギリス旗の立てたスレに行っちゃってるみたいだけど…
>>60922902
>machine translation
>>60922974
イギリス人よりももう一つのスレを建てるヤツがバンされるべき
>>60922902
>イカボール
Squid ball? what's that?
This thread is shite.
Don't worry, I made a better one
>>60923097
>>60923097
>>60923097
>>60923097
>>60923097
POST IN THIS THREAD
無視無視
>>60923165
何故?規則を守らずにスレを混乱させてるのはイギリス国旗だよ
>>60918598
Nice thread lad
I lived very close to where that photo was taken
Sumidagawa Asakusa
Please take me back there
>>60923269
レミなんかに引っ掛かんなよ
>>60923177
Squid balls with dough around and fish flakes and mayonaise on top
I don't know how they're called. Something like Okoyakizaki. they start with an "O"
I ate them once in Korea and burned my mouth.
You can also eat them in Ryu Ga Gotoku (yes I secretly am a weeb and import games from Japan)
>>60923269
ちょうど今スレを三重にした時点でルール違反になるだろうけど、次のを建てる前に宣言するとかこのスレの勝手なルールだし意味がない
>>60923190
カタログ見たら、今スレが今4つもある
there are four Japanese threads at the moment as far as I see the catalog..
>>60923372
なんだ戦う気か
>>60923497
Ignore all but this one (:
>>60923497
You want another one?
>>60923560
You might as well make another one at this point kek
>>60923524
I see.
>>60923560
No, that's enough.
New thread
>>60923711
>>60923711
>>60923711
>>60923711
>>60923711
リポートするのを忘れないでください。
>>60923758
I think there are perhaps a few too many Japanese threads, anon. We should all keep to one.
United we stand, divided we get deleted.
>>60924052
hopefully the mod deletes this and we move back to my thread, ive had 4 threads stolen from me this week even after my thread was posted first
oh god I LOVE MEMES
>>60924217
>>60924182
You weren't very good at sharing when you were younger, were you, anon?
>>60923758
crazy
>>60924255
you can make threads when im not here/when im playing dota/ when im sleeping
>>60924425
I have never made a thread before, but I think it's nice to share sometimes.
ついに乱世に突入したか。
>>60924802
if you used pictures of tao and rila i would be very happy and leave you to make as many threads as you wanted
>>60924923
what a lame copycat
Don't be silly
>>60923758
消えたw
>>60924923
Dude, we don't need any martian flacks who have a extremely limited range of op images.
>>60925181
I could easily make another one
>>60925246
Don't lie !
>>60925245
ok i will admit rila looks like a pretty alien but tao doesnt look like an alien
>>60923758
I wonder what drives you to make new threads.
Ohayo lads
Beautiful weekend
>>60925944
おはよう
>>60925944
like my girlfriend who is a professional football player btw
私は日本のレストランでいれば、そして、はしを捨ててフォークとナイフを持ち出せば、レストランの人々のリアクションは何だろう?
>>60926085
人間観察番組にでるような設定
>>60926085
おっ外人じゃんwって感じ
>>60926085
銀のナイフとフォークを取り出して優雅に食べたら貴族だと思われる(嘘)
>>60926085
「やっぱり箸は毛唐野郎には無理だね」
>>60926058
I don't know what is your favourite things expect Korean gf and video games
Do you like animals? what is your favourite music?
>>60926177
モニタリングかよ
Great album desu
>>60926537
How old r u
>>60926468
頭が悪くなるけど楽しかったよその番組
>>60926435
my favorite animal is the Japanese spider crab and I like J-pop like AKB and はっぱ隊
>>60926731
I like j crab
>>60926731
>はっぱ隊
H-how did you know that………
>>60925944
Ohayo gozaimasu, nihonjin.
It's going to rain this weekend, but that's okay, I like it when it rains and I'm inside.
>>60926872
yatta was an international hit
>>60926872
日本は珍しい番組の国そうだな...
>>60926992
>rainy day
>drink tea as looking at garden through the windows
Comfy as fuck
>>60918598
Halu halu me namu Mohamadu u understandu?
>>60926992
where are you from fellow brit?
おはようござればと思います
>>60918598
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrI-UBIB8Jk
Very serious question, why are Japanese not able to create such culture like this? I am not trying to be mean, but I am offended by how Japanese think themselves "amazing and superior humans" while they've basically done nothing themselves. Only stolen from white people. Anime itself, is just a copy of Disney.
>>60927778
Let's make trolling great again!
hello. this is my gf
嫉妬はいけないあなたはベータ版敗者すぎガールフレンドを見つけることができます
>>60927842
I'm sorry that you think I'm trolling. Fuck it dude, I'm not here to tell you what to believe. Just fucking read what I said and share your thoughts like a normal human being.
>>60928171
Good good. Never break character. What state are you in? I miss America.
>>60927850
this is my korean gf
>>60928171
>share your thoughts like a normal human being.
He's gay ... so, that's not going to happen
>>60928223
Boston you weak fuck. What prefecture are you from?
>>60928224
fuck off and grow up
>>60928262
I'm American
>>60928305
That doesn't answer my question.
What prefecture are you from? Kyoto? Oklahoma?
>>60928369
From? I wouldn't say I'm from a prefecture. I'm IN Ishikawa but I'm not from here.
>>60928305
>A刈神
>太仏
>>60928423
I don't understand
>>60928398
Doge the real question more soldier.
Guess what type of guy you're talking to.
>>60928457
I was trying to make a shitty joke by trying to replace the parts. Didn't work out apparently
>>60928463
>Guess what type of guy you're talking to.
Someone who refers to states as prefectures?
>>60928522
Nah. You failed.
Have a good night everyone.
>>60928555
Nooo I wanna know what the hell you're talking about. I'm so confused. Are you drunk?
ching chung chong chink chang chung
>>60928625
働け!
>>60928625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7tIln7Hz-c
>>60927436
London. I think you've asked me a few times before though.
>>60929029
are you the guy who posted a picture on /fa/?
japans anons, i want to ask you something, what tips can you give me if i want to visit your country?
also but not related,what do you think about italians people?
>>60928933
>are you russian?
>how much do you cost?
>>60928933
Kek
They are just like the people on this board
再び参照しないことが
あなた自身を愛することができない場合はどのように愛を見つけることができますか?
私の人生は素晴らしいですが、あなたに必要はありません
>>60929092
>italian
Kind, passionate, a bit lazy
>>60929186
いつも通り答えはビール
>>60928794
ワロタ
>>60929243
あなたは私のような最愛の人を持っている場合、あなたはそのような必要はありません。
愛は私の薬です
さよならは悲しい友人
>>60929092
Former ally
>>60929354
How old r u granpa
>>60929086
>posting your pictures on 4chan
I would rather dangle my balls over a powered blender.
>>60929425
!!!!!
sayonara losers
>>60929425
You'd get a like from me for that vid
>>60929425
theres pictures of me on the /vg/ archive, about 5 pictures
>>60927850
韓国女優の中で彼女は認める、彼女はどこ行った?
>>60929535
俺の腰の上
>>60927850
彼女も認める、というか、この時代の韓国女優達はまだそんなに整形してない。
最近の韓国女は型番ばかりだ。
>>60929597
そうか、お前は死んだのだな。
>>60929597
やりまん
>>60929598
高槁由美子に似てる 彼女は引退したよ
あなたは本当の愛を知りません
>>60929669
そうか、古い映画だったし、そうなんだろう。
昔の韓国映画のほうが面白いな。
最近のはなんか糞だ。
その年のインフルエンザは関東地方( )、全国に及んだ。
には限らず を選らんだけど、正解は にとどまらず でした。
誰か解説をください。
>>60929727
愛は何ですか
>>60929727
本当の愛とは何だ?
私は私の女の子が大好きです。あなたは日本のガールフレンドを愛することはありません。平和で私たちを残してください
>>60929727
いらいないぜ
マンコだけが知ってるでいい
>>60929838
女性の韓国プロサッカー選手
>>60929901
彼女があなたの女だと?それは妄想でしょ
>>60929838
愛は献身的なものだからフェラチオだねぇぇ
>>60929727
ロシアのチャイコフスキーが言ってたぞ。
「愛を語るものは愛を知らない。」
て。
>>60929953
はい、私たちは一緒に私たちの生活をお楽しみいただけます
永遠に私たちは大好きです
>>60930011
日本で犯罪冒す人達に似てる。
愛などいらぬ
>>60929953
今の人間は妄想にリフトとかで現実にならせることができる
>>60929804
宜しくお願いしもす!!!
>>60930063
抱きしめられたい?
>>60930050
申し訳ありませんが、私の旅は終了します
来月私の人生の愛
あよ
>>60930105
I guess it's because there is movement.
>>60930066
ゲームやアニメの女を妄想で愛するのは理解できる
でも現実の女を妄想で愛するのは変だよ
>>60929804
う~ん
インフルエンザは"とどまる"ものだからかなぁ?
"インフルエンザの影響は関東地方には限られず"とは言えるけど
>>60930199
Ooh I see. That makes sense. Thanks
>>60930213
同意する
>>60930250
>>60930199
Ok you two basically agreed. Thanks. I think I understand
>>60929953
そいつは想像上の彼女のエピソードを大量に投下してたやつだからまともに相手しない方がいい
ぬるーく見てればいい
>>60929804
「限らず」でも間違いではない
試験問題だと思ってわりきってやるしかない
>Muslims are already in the process of expediently introducing Islam to Japan with spurious reasoning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVizmeCa0vU
Brace yourself, Nips, for Allah will show no mercy for non-believers
>>60930152
It won't be long before you're forced to confront the people you fled Sweden to get away from
Can I get a white gf on VR? Wow amazing!
>>60930482
ありがとうございます
>>60929804
説明するのが難しい。
「限らず」の例文
我々は男性に限らず、女性の意見にも耳を傾けるべきだ。
「にとどまらず」は、さらに範囲が拡大しているという感じ。
「とどまらず」の例文
洪水の被害は市内にとどまらず、隣の町にも及んだ。
When will Japan give us the VR game that lets us make our waifus and fuck them hourly?
>>60930583
>我々は男性にとどまらず、女性の意見にも耳を傾けるべきだ。
>洪水の被害は市内に限らず、隣の町にも及んだ。
こういう風に書き換ええてはどうですか。
上の文章が×だったら合点だけど、下のはどうかな。
限らずでも間違いではないと言っている人と同意見ですか?
>>60929804
>には限らず
"は"が余計な気がする。"に限らず"だったらいいような。
>>60930752
ありがとう
余計というのはあってはならないのか、それともあってもなくてもよくてただ要らないのか
>>60930670
but first you need to cheapen Oculus Rift
Good morning guys!
I'm planning to study Japanese at uni next year i'm almost fluent with English
Please tell me Japanese is a useful language to learn in business world and will get me employed
Inb4 underage: i'm 18
Thank you
>>60929804
ごめん>>60930752は無視して。
限らずを使うだったら、後半「全国」じゃだめ。「他の地方」(関東は含まない)じゃないと。
>>60930833
But when will Japan make it possible to fuck waifus?
>>60929804
その年のインフルエンザは関東地方に ”は” 限らず、全国に及んだ
この”は”は間違いだな
>>60930838
Japanese is a useful language to learn in the business world and will get you employed
>>60930903
which will you vote, Trump or Hillary?
>>60930820
which will you vote, Trump or Hillary?
>>60930742
とどまらずは「動いている物」が止まらず更に勢いを強めたり拡大して動き続けるという意味で考えよう
>洪水の被害は市内に限らず、隣の町にも及んだ。
限らずでも確かに間違いではないかもしれないが、洪水は「動いている物」で、だんだん被害の範囲を拡大させるものだからとどまらずの方がいいかも
>我々は男性にとどまらず、女性の意見にも耳を傾けるべきだ。
これは動いているものがないから限らずの方がいいだろう
>>60930742
う~ん
「我々は男性にとどまらず、女性の意見にも耳を傾けるべきだ」は個人的には少し不自然な気がするけど、十分意味は伝わる。
「洪水の被害は市内に限らず、隣の町にも及んだ」
これはどっちも使えると思う。
>間違いではないと言っている人と同意見ですか?
文によっては両方使っても不自然じゃない場合がある。
あんまりいい説明できなくてごめんね。
>>60930979
Trump
What about Japan?
Do they like Trump too?
>>60931008
やっぱり訂正
「洪水」が主語の時は洪水は動いているものだからとどまらずがいいと思うが
「洪水の被害」が主語の時は被害そのものは動いていないから限らずの方が適切だと思う
>>60930820
習うより慣れろってことわざ知ってる?
>>60930979
I would never vote for Donald Trump. He is a disgrace and a charlatan.
>>60931008
>>60931031
動くものという考え方は分かるけど「は」の有無という話となると混乱する。
日本人同士が「は」のことを話しているのはまるでほかの言語でしゃべっているようにしか聞こえないし自分が「は」を使うか使わないか試行錯誤をおいてほかにできないw
>>60931171
>He is a disgrace and a charlatan.
As are all politicians.
>>60931157
That won't help me pass N1 so I don't really care for that idea. I need concrete rules even if they are 100% applicable.
>>60930969
Thank you kind anon
>>60931207
But he's not a politician. Politicians have an excuse. He doesn't.
>>60931216
I would really like to see natives take this test. The results would be interesting. I wonder if they would pick the wrong answer sometimes in questions like these.
>>60931077
he said he would make United States Forces Japan evacuate from Okinawa.
This means Okinawa is exposed to risk of being attacked by China.
So I hope he will fail to be elected
>>60931321
But what if he lets you guys make your own army again?
Wouldn't most Japanese support removing American bases?
>>60931287
I wonder too. I took a past year level 1 英検 and for the reading and vocabulary sections there wasn't a single question I can imagine a native speaker getting wrong unless they were being careless. But for the grammar section there were definitely some I hesitated on only because there were some questions I could tell the rule they were testing knowledge of, but there was always a choice included that is correct in general use/conversation but not grammatically.
I bet the JLPT is like that too.
>>60931240
you're welcome bro
>>60931407
I see. You never attempted any level of the JLPT before? I failed N1 once.
>>60931370
>But what if he lets you guys make your own army again?
our own army isn't enough.
need Nuclear weapon
>>60931487
No, I've never taken a JLPT. I'm gonna take 1 in the winter though. Are you going to try again?
>>60931519
Would you support invading China and Korea again?
>>60931531
I don't really need it so maybe not. I used to think it was cool to have the JLPT N1 but I don't care anymore.
Since you live in Japan the listening part should be easy for you. But you need to be a fast reader.
>>60931407
>there were definitely some I hesitated
I wanna know what questions
>>60931663
never.
we need Nuclear weapon as a deterrent
>>60929804
自分のイメージ
>>60931733
I don't remember specific questions but one that came up often was questions testing past and present perfect. In America we just don't use the present perfect as often as other countries. We prefer the past unless there's a specific meaning we can only express in the present perfect.
So for many of those the choices include a past option and a present perfect option that both sound fine, or sometimes the past option sounds better to me but I know they want the tester to choose the present perfect.
>>60931729
Yeah I bet a big issue will be time pressure.
Maybe you're similar. Do you get tripped up by them incuding ruby text? It infuriates me when there's ruby text cause it only slows me down when I'm reading. Like it distracts my eyes.
If there's lots of ruby text or worse hiragana words that are normally written in Kanji I probably won't pass.
>>60931768
丁寧にありがとう!
今度思い出してみるよ
>>60931733
Would most Japanese support nuking Korea and China?
I know I would
>>60931171
>vote for
>for
こうやって暗に間違いを指摘してくれる穴マンすき
>>60918598
Hey anybody want to talk with myself and a few friends on Skype? Might end up on TV.
WhiteJest3r
巫女の彼女をゲットしに出かける
>>60931885
>I don't remember specific questions but one that came up often was questions testing past and present perfect. In America we just don't use the present perfect as often as other countries. We prefer the past unless there's a specific meaning we can only express in the present perfect.
>So for many of those the choices include a past option and a present perfect option that both sound fine, or sometimes the past option sounds better to me but I know they want the tester to choose the present perfect.
i see
I guess that was the question that asked you the differences between like
>Have you ever been to Tokyo?
and
>Did you ever go to Tokyo?
>>60931909
most of us never support that ofc
most of us don't like them tho
>>60931885
Nah there's not a lot a furigana in the N1 test. But there's definitely not a lot of kanji. I hated the texts, it doesn't feel like real Japanese, just trash to try to confuse you and slow you down.
You basically have to run your eyes over it and pick out the information. If you try to read everything then you're probably fucked.
>>60931944
いや、気を使ってなどいないよ
わざとに見えるかもしれないけど間違いを気にせずに内容を対象に返事するのは教師の基本標準だと思う。
>>60932145
>>60931944
ごめん
自慢げに言おうとしていないからそう聞こえたなら許してください。
>>60932142
Well I can only do that if there are a lot of Kanji. I guess I will just see how it goes.
>>60932121
>I guess that was the question that asked you the differences between like
>Have you ever been to Tokyo?
and
>Did you ever go to Tokyo?
This is actually what I mean when I say "a specific meaning we can only express in the present perfect. These two sentences mean different things and if I want to know if you have ever experienced something I will use the present perfect not the simple past.
But there are sentences where there is not much of a difference so Americans prefer the simple past.
Like
Have you finished your homework?
Did you finish your homework?
I know intuitively there is a difference between the two but I struggle to explain what it is. And I honestly think the latter sounds better just cause it's simpler and sounds more like something I would say in real life.
おはようジャパン君!
>>60932315
ヤーパン君とお呼びください
>>60932315
おはようトルコ君!
はやくケバブぅ〜
>>60932306
>I know intuitively there is a difference between the two but I struggle to explain what it is. And I honestly think the latter sounds better just cause it's simpler and sounds more like something I would say in real life.
I often wonder which tense I should choice when I write the sentences that have the meaning of the finish.
>>60932408
すみませんヤーパン様
>>60932545
わたくしはトルコじゃない
嘘
>>60932315
おはようございますラインハルト様
Japanese teachers teach the present perfect like this.
They tell the students that it means three things
継続
経験
完了
For 継続 and 経験, 現在完了 is really the only way to express these.
But for 完了 it is much more complicated. There are many situations where Americans prefer the simple past tense to the present perfect.
If students ask what the difference is, they tell the students that using 完了用法 gives a more emotional connection to what you are saying.
I have never understood this. It makes no sense to me, and it doesn't seem to help the students produce natural sentences.
>>60932617
わたくしの名前はアドルフです
ドイツ語を勉強したらシューベルトの魔王が歌えるようになりますか?
>>60932677
Learning grammar only slows you down.
>>60932677
Do you think British can explain the difference?
>>60932762
No, they can only shitpost.
>>60932787
lel
>>60932736
Maybe. I don't have a better way of explaining this though. But students don't want to hear that they can't know right away what the difference is.
So you have to tell them something to satisfy them in that moment or they will get annoyed and get discouraged.
>>60932762
I don't know. They will probably say that Americans are wrong about how we use the language. It really is a clear divide based on nationality. I think the british would choose the present perfect more often than we would.
>>60932677
>For 継続
What about 現在完了進行形?
>>60932677
Well, from what I can tell, present perfect tense is often used to describe a current state that is affected by past actions. It could just be my understanding of it, but for example:
>Have you finished your homework?
This seems like the speaker is somehow dependent upon the completion of the homework. I want to know if you've finished your homework yet (because if you have, we can have dinner now). It kind of carries some expectation.
>Did you finish your homework?
This seems like it's just asking the facts and it doesn't necessarily matter to the speaker whether you did or didn't.
Again, this is just how I imagine them in my head. Do you get a similar sense from them?
>>60932816
This is another strange one.
To me,
How long have you been studying English
is a more appropriate sentence than
How long have you studied English. And when we teach 現在完了 i have to be very careful not to accidentally use 現在完了進行形
>>60932844
Yeah I think the same thing. I imagine a kid asking because he wants to go play. So he says can I go out now? And the parent says
Have you finished your homework yet?
But "Did you finish your homework" sounds absolutely just as fine to me.
>>60932696
思いません。
難しい曲ですから
>>60932844
And I think what while British people would object to using the word "yet" in the sentence "Did you finish your homework yet?"
Americans don't have an issue. I think. I don't, anyway. Do you?
>>60932914
Right. Seems like there are many instances where if present perfect is appropriate, simple past would do fine, too.
>>60932984
Sounds a-okay to me!
>>60932914
So basically the difference is the existence of emphasis?
>>60933050
Idk sorry.
I think sometimes the difference is emphasis. That's why a sentence like "Mary has made a cake" sounds silly to me. Without more context, I wonder if this is a big achievement for her or something. So it sounds strange cause it's emphatic for no good reason. But
But I also think the simple past can be just as emphatic when the present perfect sounds strange. Like a kid plants a seed and the next day he looks and sees that "it sprouted!"
If he says "it's sprouted!" I suspect he's just British cause I can't understand any other reason to use the present perfect here.
American studying in Japan right now
Talking to Japanese people in English and Japanese is really fun! But it's hard to find Japanese people to do it with. I've only been able to talk with Language partners they've assigned to us. Talking to actual Japanese people is hard since they won't talk to you if they don't know you
>>60932926
無念!
>>60933335
What do you think of this?>>60933326
>>60932926
魔王みたいな悲しい曲をなぜ作ったか。
>>60933335
Go out with me if you are a girl.
遂にアドルフも日本語スレを見るようになったのか
おとーーうさん!!おとーさん!!ってやつだっけ
音楽の時間にビデオ見せられたな
I made a good thread :3
plz post something there
>>60933471
>>60933696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWwo5Ydl3M
>>60933533
To me it's they sound pretty much the same. The difference in emphasize I don't really see either
>>60933650
I'm not but we can hang out if you are in Kyoto area
Talking to Japanese girls are a lot of fun. Most of them here are very cute if they don't have the bucktooth. I think the first language partner here may have been a gaijin hunter, didn't get her line info but I'm going to try and find her again
嫌な誘いを承けて集合の場所を交渉する段階で返事が止まって救われたと思ったら連絡が入った。
>>60933951
I see. Thanks
>>60934251
職場の飲み会とか?
>>60934251
蘇民祭?
>>60934266
飲み会だったらいいよ。
:(
行きたくなあああああいい
>>60934296
とは何?
嫌だ
いやだあああああ
最初から言えばよかった
自分のせいです
反省
>>60934301
なになに?
清掃ボランティアとか?
>>60934398
わかったぞ
カラオケだな
歌わされるのがイヤなんだろw
>>60934570
酔っているとつらくないよ
>>60934547
ノーです。
何で知りたい?つまらないよ。スポーツです。
穴マン飲み会は好きなのか
