I love Columbia.
I sort of love it, but sort of hate it
>>60907448
I have been to every South American country (except Bolivia kek) and Venezuela (and north Brazil) are the worst
You could literally get robed in Venezuela for having a nice watch
>>60907612
is it that bad? where were you?
>>60907448
wanna switch places? cause this is a shitplace to live in. even with money.
More like Coolumbia ; )
>>60907674
>even with money.
Then, you're not doing it right. Not at all.
>>60907702
well yes and no. it is fine with money if you believe in the petty reality the average colomian grows in, but if you actually see what is happening in the rest of the world, what reality is like and then come back to this turdhole, see that it cant be changed, then it is crap.
>>60907867
Well, I don't really see that things can't be changed, in fact checking recent colombian history, data, statistics, we are doing normal, for having almost 200 years of shit. Also, I don't think I got why you were saying that living here with money is shit? I mean living with enough money in southamerica (even venezuela) is good, for the person who has the money, because the things that you can have access is big. Of course, that only works if you don't really care about the rest of the reality, nevertheless, everytime I'm outside latinamerica, it feels like I'm almost poor, but then I return here and I can have a pretty above decent life. It's a matter of perspectives
nobody cares about this shithole
>>60907639
I was in the Northeastern coastal states
I don't remember what they were called
>>60907448
> Col***U***mbia
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>60908282
Calm the fuck down.
>>60908223
Oh, like their touristy states, well, that's pretty shitty. Were you here, too?
>>60908109
the change you talk about aint the change im talking about. its like that french adage: plus ca change plus cest la meme chose. (the more it changes the more it stays the same). here we are ready to change anything to keep things running as they are. with money you can do anything within that fix reality. but the same old ways have to be followed for you to be given money. if someone comes up with something different then it is exclusion or death. we asimply want the benefits of modernity without having to assume the responsibilities that implies. we might have a developing economy and a 'state', but on the real life level, everyday life is lived as if we were a 100-person tribe in the jungle.
i get what you mean by the contrast of perspectives. but that contrast has the perspectives fixed. im not talking about the contrast of different perspectives but a shift in one of those perspectives. as it you were to have a plane or a submarine in pic related.
cause yeah here with money you have anything the place can offer. but it is that offer that is quite petty considering what can actually be done.
>>60908581
Well, tell me, for example, what would you like to do? I mean an excellent education, if you have money here you can get it somewhere, like for example studying abroad in almost any country, or do you talk about gadgets, clothing? I mean leaving outside the whole "change" thing, what would you like to get that you can't get here (and by here I'm talking about LatAM)? Because focusing only on the material stuff I think if you are wealthy (and of course individualistic and not caring about the rest) you can have a pretty decent, yet shallow, life.
>>60908773
>change
>education
>gadgets
>clothing
thats the thing im talking about. change is not making a different shape with the same bricks, but using different materials that will allow true difference. change means the unknown and we are terrified of that. giving concrete examples here is hard because they will be read with what is known. but idk, i guess what i mean is having a different lifestyle that lies on different beliefs concerning family, or work, or what you eat etc. that you cant question. and that is what you can do outside. in truly civilized societies you can have a private life that you can choose to build on your won in complete indifference from the common life everyone is imposed. yo can choose that if you want, but can do other stuff. here you cant, unless you have money from the start, because to get your own money you have to live like everyone else, and that fucks your mind so all u will be able to do is live that shallow life you talk about. like if you are only allowed to have a bike if you give your legs in return.
>>60908336
I went to Cartagena, it was much better than Venezuela but still a lot of poverty
>>60909478
Dont worry mr. tourist. We are working to better hide that poverty so you dont have to see it next time.
>>60909478
Yep, the unequality there is obscene
Can I visit Colombia and sleep around without getting kidnapped by cartels?
>>60913710
id advise you being hosted by some locals. because this is a jungle. so, just like in the jungle, if you go by yourself you risk anything.
>>60907448
what do you think about spaniards? colombians hates us so much...
>>60907867
>>60907702
¿para qué discutes con ese simio? Es evidente que es una persona obtusa, demasiado pasional, evidentemente pasa por algún tipo de depresión.
>>60909087
por más que leo ese "argumento" no le encuentro ningún sentido/fundamento/ lo que sea. sobre todo esta parte:
>and that is what you can do outside. in truly civilized societies you can have a private life that you can choose to build on your won in complete indifference from the common life everyone is imposed.
es evidente que eres una persona sin mucha educación o no muy leída, con una pobreza conceptual inmensa.
>>60909478
Cartagena is one of the poorest cities of the cunt-tree.
>>60913710
don't pay attention to that autist >>60915661
Culombia*
Are there a lot of Venezuelan migrants in Columbia with economic crisis there?
>>60916556
Yep. I've seen them everywhere. It's sort of cool, I mean they helped some of our people before, so we should help now
>Columbia
You doing it in purpose?
>>60916556
Yeah, somewhat. Although is not even nearly as bad as it could because we started asking for visas to enter the country by land. So it's mainly people with money (thus not a burden to society) coming here.
If there's some sort of refugee crisis shenanigans i will definitely be against it. Both because of the shit venezuela has thrown at us and because we just can't help them without sinking again in the shit pong we're barely getting out of.
>>60916792
Sorry used to spelling to spelling Colombia with a 'u' because I'm from the District of Columbia (Washington)
>>60916792
dile eso a los cucuteños o vallenatos invadidos de chimpanzolanos criminosos. En Valledupar hasta militarizaron la ciudad por eso.
>>60916891
That's Ok, only psychobitches get really mad about that mistake.
>>60916960
It's still kinda bothering, and also makes the gringo look like an idiot.
>>60917105
I don't know, m8, I think countries like people can have some variations in their names, yeah I know that the correct spelling is still O in English, but, for example, when I'm speaking in English sometimes I use the spanish names of countries and places, so it's more like a mental reflex, because we're used to those concepts, more like an honest mistake
>>60917105
Not him but, please. Only those who have no identity get offended when their fake identity gets unrecognized. Columbia is fine. Are you offended too when someone mentions war or drugs? lel
>>60907612
wuut? you came to Paraguay too?
>>60908282
Why do some Colombians get so butturt about the spelling when it is quite litteraly a language difference?
>>60917305
Because we hate ourselves but dont want others to notice it. So we get self-conscious when the fake image we build for others isnt seen exactly as we try to make it look.
>>60917276
>those who have no identity get offended when their fake identity gets unrecognized
Ah? Since when was this an abstract argument about identity bullshit? This is just basic orthography because Colombia is the proper spelling, no need to get all philosophical.
>>60917486
>basic orthography
well, basic modern world lets us see that there are other languages in existence. or would you also correct some japanese or russian who uses other alphabet?
¿por qué siguen discutiendo con este autista de mierda >>60917276
>>60917469 >>60917640? diosss.
>>60917727
>no opina lo mismo que yo
>no entiendo loq ue dice
>autismo
este hueco esta en el siglo xix.
>>60917860
No el mismo, pero calmese, este hueco es igual de malo a cualquier otro hueco que alberga gente como la que ud acaba de criticar. Tomese una agua de valeriana o algo.
>>60917860
>>60917903
ah hola Jamundí. ahora entiendo.
>>60917903
no, el atraso aqui es cronico. otros huecos pueden estar en la mala pero por lo menos saben que lo estan y van avanzando, paso a paso. aqui creemos que somos un pais del primer mundo cuando en realidad estamos al nivel de cualquier pais africano que logro la independencia hace un par de decadas.
>>60917486
>orthography
ÉXITO
>>60917903
>>60918134
tómate tu medicamento para la esquizofrenia, 27 años.
>>60918134
>cuando en realidad estamos al nivel de cualquier pais africano que logro la independencia hace un par de decadas.
Nope. Y la salud publica, la economía, la tecnología y la ciencia me darían la razón si quisiera contraargumentar, solo pienso que ud se enfrasca demasiado en lo malo, yo pensaria que mejor fumese un porro, ponga videos de animales en youtube y escuche musica. Ese pesimismo extremo es igual a ese orgullo extremo de cualquier hincha de la selección colombia.
>los puse a hablar en español
jaja uena.
>>60917640
Are you an idiot?
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/colombia
>>60918162
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthography
>>60918492
>Are you an idiot?
he is. he's schizo, diagnosed.
>>60918268
todas esas cosas que menciona no sirven para un carajo si no hay gente que sepa utilizarlas. eso lo invento gente que asumio la responsabilidad de organizar una sociedad propia, y llego a esos resultados. aqui por el contrario lo unico que podemos hacer es copiar loq ue otros hacen. asi nos traigan carros que se conducen solos o casas inteligentes o lo que sea vamos a seguir en el mismo caos porque la heramienta no sirve para nada sin saber como usarla. y eso solo lo da el conocimiento del proceso de su fabricacion, no solo su mera posesion.
pero claro, aqui cualquier critica es 'pesimismo', y todo se soluciona con trago frente a un partido o con porro frente a un arbol.
>>60918606
> todo se soluciona con trago frente a un partido o con porro frente a un arbol.
confirmado. busca ayuda psiquiátrica para tu depresión, Jamundí.
>>60918606
Listo, entonces le pregunto la misma cosa odiosa que cualquier persona preguntaría, qué está haciendo ud. para modificar todo eso que detesta?
Vaya y tomese una valeriana, en serio lo noto tensisimo.
>>60918736
>que esta haciendo.
que se puede hacer aqui si solo se le permite accion a los que por adelantado anuncian que van a ahcer lo mismo de siempre? la unica manera de llegar a resultados es intentando y aprendiendo de los errores. eso es lo que aqui tenemos miedo de hacer. todo lo que aqui copiamos no lo hizo nadie en par decadas ni lo invento a partir de palabras. la historia de la gente que es nuestro horizonte esta llena de errores a partir de los cuales se construyo una sociedad real. aqui no toleramos accion sin un plan detallado de antemano que garantize resultados sin errores. eso garantiza seguridad pero tambien prohibe autonomia.
>>60919056
Y quieres ser escritor y guionista Jamu. No jodas.
>>60919220
perdon pero cual es la obsesion con jamundi? que hay alla para que sea utilizado como insulto?
>>60915661
You wanna host me random 4chaner. I'm now rich by any means but I can afford a good time for us both.
