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Not so fast China, France, and Germany!
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sup
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>>60738503
"Study finds"
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Bigger version :^)
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>>60738503
>mfw the rest of the world is openly competing for second place
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>>60738503
???
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>>60738618
A FUCKING RAMP
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>>60738618
>"Study Finds UK Has To Use Fucking Ramps To Make Their Planes Fly"
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>>60738618
What is that?

An inoperable skate ramp?
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UK, France, and Germany are all #1 most powerful country in world because we all share the same civilization. If the west is to remain competitive with the hordes of gooks, we all have to start thinking of ourselves not as individual countries, but as a union or confederation of sister nations. Each maintaining its own language, customs, and identity in its homeland, but all sharing the same military and diplomatic objectives of cultivating peace, prosperity, democracy, secularism, and dank memes across the globe. Kinda like the medieval concept of Christendom, but less rosaries and pedophilia and more raging and pussy.

It's either this, or being drowned in an ocean of smelly Turkish immigrants.
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>>60738503
you mean warlike ?

1 Russia(No protection against their nukes)

2 China(ManPower)

3 USA(inb4 muh gdp)

4 France

5 UK

6 Japan

7 India

8 Brazil

9 Israel

10 North Korea
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A FUCKING RAMP
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>>60738851
>UK, France, and Germany are all #1 most powerful country in world because we all share the same civilization
No, USA is ruled by secret "semetic" tribe.
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> Study finds Uk newspapers are sucking the cock of their own country.
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>>60738503
Why does the UK are doing false study 24/7 to make their people think they're the best at everything?
You know they're lying right nigel?
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>>60738866
>Russia, China and France above UK
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>>60738866
What is this even a list of?
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>>60739003
>European Geostrategy thinktank
>"UK doing false study"

French """damage control"""
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>>60738503
The british media is fucking desperate to paint britain as relevant, it's a bit said tbph.

I reckon maybe their government is actually behind it to try and distract them from domestic issues as they slide into an orwellian society.
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>>60739005
Uk is shit m8, you still live in the past.

>>60739011
I saw a warship and i tought this is global firepower ratings.
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>>60738560
This Country Became The Second Most Powerful In the World!!! The Axis Hates It!!!
Click Here To Find Out How
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>>60739156
>be german
>never own property
>rent your entire left
>never accumulate wealth
>be poorer than us

AHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>60739043
You can find thousands of """""study""""" made by UK that are absolute fake, stop being dellusional.

But progaganda is a huge part of your history, nothing to be ashamed of, hehehe.
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>>60739243
>>60739243
>>be german
k
>>never own property
i own
>>rent your entire left
i rent and own
>>never accumulate wealth
iam wealthy
>>be poorer than us
it is all BP and parasiting on the colonies. the rich one are the royals and their slaves, everage brit is a peasant just like german
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>>60739445
Do you even basic logic or English? Why are you referring to yourself?
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>>60739539
k i make it simple for u

>be brit
get KHAN´D
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>>60738618
It's a ramp because they're too poor to afford a catapult.
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>>60739615
You're an absolute drooling retard kek
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I've actually read the article the clickbait pic refers to.
http://www.europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

They basically defend a very skewed way of rating global power with two incredibly stupid points.
They disregard economic strength on the defence that France did not manage to conquer England "through much of the 18th and 19th centuries" even though their economy was twice as big.
They conveniently disregard that France, unlike Britain, conquered almost all the rest of Europe in those centuries.

Secondly they apply an extreme amount of weight to mobility, disregarding that it is much more important for an army to be able to defend or attack a few key strategic points or cities instead of being able to race to the south pole.

Typical British delusional autism couldn't contain itself again.
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>>60739724
>be brit
>get overrun by pakis and talibs
>vote for a muslim in capital city

top lel m8
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It really is a shame the English don't have a real maritime arsenal.

Pic related, the Charles de Gaulle
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>>60739777
>They disregard economic strength on the defence that France did not manage to conquer England "through much of the 18th and 19th centuries" even though their economy was twice as big.

Why would that be relevant today? France's economy is shit
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>>60739777
yes france is the strongest in EU they fuck up brits ass EZ
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>>60738618
why is Italy a local power?
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>>60739815
>A German posting this
>literally the country that accepted A MILLION muslims in one fucking year and caused the whole of southern europe to be overrun with "refugees"

you're literally the most cuck country in europe after sweden
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>>60739816
>be american
>build the biggest, most expensive, inefficent warship ever
>some mad kebabs suicide bomb it at night with poor speedboats
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>>60739777
>European Geostrategy thinktank
>""British""
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>>60738503
sure, keep telling yourself that after the post-colonial slump.

It's been more than half a century, man. Let it go.
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my country is a regional power if Bangladesh was the only other country in the region. Am I eligible to post here?
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>>60740025
we need them for labour, lots of shitty jobs arent fullfilled. if they dont work, we sent them back ;)
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got this from other thread.
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>>60740051
>german navy
Thank Jesus we live in a time where you can be an economy and... social... power without actually maintaining a military.
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>>60740137
they have scots for that, scots been crossdressing since centuries m8
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>>60740137
>Regional Power
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>>60739915
I'm not saying France should be above Britain, I'm saying that economy is a very important determinant of power.

They disregard it because France did not manage to defeat England in that time while it had more economic power. That would be the same as saying military spending does not determine power, as "the US did not defeat defeat Vietnam in the Vietnam war even though they spent much more funds on their military".
It is a desperate grasp for anything to confirm their delusion that Great Britain is still Great.
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>>60740161
we are slave to jews yo.

everage pay for german soldier in afg : 16000€ a month

everage pay for us soldier in afg: 5000$ a month
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>>60740235
The Vietnam War is not a fair comparison, because the Napoleonic Wars were all-out wars, whereas Vietnam was not.

>Many existing power indicators fall into the trap of economic or demographic determinism: we have not selected Gross National Income or population size as the most important attributes of national power – after all, throughout much of history, economic output and population size have not been the determining factors of international influence. Elizabethan England and the United Provinces took on and defeated powers with larger economic outputs and populations. Likewise, France failed to defeat the United Kingdom throughout much of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, despite having a population nearly double the size and an economy considerably larger. What matters – we believe – is not so much economic heft or population size, but a country’s ability to mobilise resources through political, economic and financial infrastructure.
>Most existing power matrixes focus on the sheer volume of warships, submarines, warplanes or military personal held by each nation, yet this does not – in our view – provide an accurate depiction of each nation’s armed power. After all, countries like Russia, China and North Korea possess formidable arsenals of conventional forces on paper, yet they lack the means to project and sustain them in distant theatres, while much of their inventories are obsolete or suffer from poor training and a lack of combat experience. What really matters in modern warfare is a combination of military might, technological sophistication and geostrategic reach. Countries like the United Kingdom and France possess far smaller armed forces than many other countries, but they more than make up for this with better technological means and global mobility, sustained by an extended-regional or even worldwide array of military installations.

>Dutch will argue against this
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>>60740235
So you're saying the "European Geostrategy" group is just Brits? Proofs?
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>>60739915
>France's economy is shit

That's wrong Anon
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>>60740377
Yeah, that is what I wrote.
>"France failed to defeat the United Kingdom throughout much of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, despite having a population nearly double the size and an economy considerably larger."
This disregards that France conquered the rest of Europe, which Britain did not.
>"Countries like the United Kingdom and France possess far smaller armed forces than many other countries, but they more than make up for this with better technological means and global mobility, sustained by an extended-regional or even worldwide array of military installations.
This is their stupid point about mobility, but there is no point in being able to operate anywhere in the world when everything that really matters in a contemporary relevant war is all in the northern hemisphere.
>>60740392
The first author is called James Rogers and all his articles are about Britain.
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One could easily argue Israel is the world's only ultrapower.
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>>60740672
>This disregards that France conquered the rest of Europe
But they didn't. They got absolutely smashed at the Battle of Trafalgar at sea (where we pooled most of our resources and you handily ignore in favour of land), and then we beat them at the Battle of Waterloo in France anyway.

Modern militaries are more about technology, projection for distant threatres, superior training (see: SAS), logistics, and lastly military installations and islands
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>>60740864
>The battle of Waterloo was won by the Brits
wew lad
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>>60740672
But there are 3 authors
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>>60740864
So Trafalgar and Waterloo were the only battles of the Napoleonic Wars now
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>>60740921
Thats how history turns, germands mistly and russuans bled to make that happen.

Trafalgar was great though.
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>>60740864
This >>60740921
The Brits did not play half as large a role as you like to believe.

Modern military does employ a large array of technology etc., and that is certainly why the US army would be able to defeat the Chinese army for instance, but you're delusional if you think the difference in technology, training, installations etc. between England and China is so great that it would enable England to defeat China as well.
>>60740922
The first author in any kind of scientific or slightly less scientific writing generally does the great majority of the work.
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>>60738866
>8 Brazil
Gib security council seat pls
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>>60740254
At least our soldiers are paid to be great instead of being paid to be second rate.
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>>60741291
It's going to be Bolivia, get shrekt
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>The first author in any kind of scientific or slightly less scientific writing generally does the great majority of the work.

And the other two had 0 oversight or input into this supposed naked propaganda? You're a moron
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>all these asspained frogs
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>>60740254
That's such obvious bullshit
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>>60741398
Our soldiers are actually well trained, look it up meme master.
Or ask afghan veterans.
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So, does that boat still work in warm water?
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>>60741411
I'm not saying it is propaganda, I'm just saying that the main author's hopes skewed his interpretation of any data presented to him.
If you're asked to help a colleague collect data, that doesn't mean he will appreciate it if you attempt to change his whole interpretation of the results.
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>>60741037
British propaganda.
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>>60741517

ah yes the "can't work in warm water" meme, DESPITE HMS Defender returning from her Gulf deployment with zero (0) power failures.
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All the world runs on Dutch money. Bow to your masters.
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>>60741641
If I am from a Hansa town, do I count as honourable sea-jew?
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>UK
>second
nice joke
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>>60740071
I love those elemental lels.
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>>60741523

>trafalgar and waterloo weren't significant

frog delusion
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>>60738503
>English military prowess
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>>60741698
Depends on which side of Jutland you are
West Germany best Germany
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>>60741522
>the main author's hopes skewed his interpretation of any data presented to him
This is pure speculation

>>60741523
For sure Napoleon was great, but we, along with others brought his end on land, and we single-handedly stopped him (and the Spanish who were allied with Napoleon) at sea, in the same battle.

This is not delusion or propaganda, it is facts.
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>>60741951
Another
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>it's another "h-h-h-h-hey we're still relevant, we're 2nd most powerful country in the world, we're a global power, I swear !!!" British thread
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>>60741969
Agreed, but I dsoloke that we are apparently 10 years behind you in dealing wigh annoying norzh africans.

Was told you had some bad cases 10-15 years ago.
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>>60741641
Why are you trying to be relevant Netherlands? You're literally a tiny country with virtually no international presence
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>>60738618
Is that some kind of... Ramp?
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>>60742089
Yes, because our faggot government is scared shitless of being seen as anti-anything.
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>>60738503
Don't be silly, only America (god bless) is a global power. The only free nation, and the greatest in the world.
God bless America
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>>60742113
Because we are tall sea jews who deserve more than they have. So do you. We must rule the world together.
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>>60741979
>we, along with others
And Canada defeated Germany "along with others"
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>>60742166
Yes what?

I,meant that you are way more raycis than us in a good way.
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London alone automatically makes the UK the second or third greatest power on Earth, possibly behind China. I don't know why European countries get so angry about this.
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>>60742496
You mean other european countries.

You are politically and geographically european.
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If you're not first you're last
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>>60742521
that was implied
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>>60742596
I had brits that were adamant about NOT being european in anyway.

Could have thought the UK was swimming in the middle of the pacific, listening to him.
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1. US
2. Russia
3. China
4. UK/France

to be honest
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>>60742394
Fuck coalitions, my man
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>>60742394
Hannover was in a union with the u.k at the time. So they shouldn't count
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I met some british, and australian sailors while on deployment last year. Brits are cool to drink with, but you will never party as hard as an aussie.
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>>60742739
Its the only way you beat us after unifocation, so dont be thag derisive.
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>>60742810
Or rather, the ukies had a german king :^)

>>60742853
Why? Famous Bogan Mode?
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>>60738618


>A FUCKING RAMP
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>>60742738
>Russia
>2016 GDP: $1.133 trillion
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>>60742923
I'm talking militarily, I should have specified that. For overall influence I would say we're second.
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>>60742923
>GDP shouldn't be taken into account, the UK is more powerful than Germany and China!
>GDP should be taken into account, the UK is more powerful than Russia!
Genious!
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>>60740051
>Germany confusing a Burke Class destroyer as the biggest, most expensive warship ever
Understandable, given the state of your armed forces. I'm sure when one of our smaller warships makes port in your country it does seem like 1944-45 all over again.
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>>60739977
They have an ok military as far as european countries go but its pretty shit so they are only local
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>>60743044
Just found out we are still the third biggest weapon exporteur.

Fuck yeah.
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>>60742855
Explain why the HRE was such a failure, please

Explain all your defeats WHEN YOU WERE UNITED AGAINST US ?
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>>60742891
>be in singapore
>chillin out at some NEX funded bar or some shit
>aussies just crowd our table because they're already rowdy
>AYM FUM BUNDABERG YA FUCKIN CUNT AN'ERE WE DO ET LIKE THIS
>chugs down a full bottle of hennessy, smashes the bottle
>runs outside and dives into the pool
>swims all the way across and jumps out
>is immediatly slapped by one of his mates and given a beer
>chugs that shit down and then cheers with his m8 across the pool
>some ensign from my ship tries to muscle in and tell him to chill out
>ensign gets chewed out in a slurr of words no one knows while they both head back into the bar to demand something else to drink
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>>60743189
I am talking about german unification and you know it.

Stay mad.
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>>60743203
Nice, anglo hyperlads.
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>>60743333
Nice quads
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>>60743640
I had hepts once.

>Tfw 4chan overdose over years.

Thanks.
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>>60738503
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-intercepted-russian-submarine-way-162500422.html
> HMS Kent's commanding officer, Cmdr. Daniel Thomas, said, "Locating this submarine was a combined effort with NATO allies and shadowing such units is routine activity for the Royal Navy."

https://www.rt.com/news/345861-british-media-russian-sub
> Russia’s Defense Ministry issued a statement Wednesday in a somewhat mocking tone, confirming the Stary Oskol (Project 636.3) submarine was making its way from the Northern Fleet in the Arctic to the Black Sea and its new home base in Sevastopol, on the Crimean peninsula.
> “The submarine has been making surface cruising accompanied by the Altay tug vessel,” the statement said, expressing surprise that spotting an up-top, slow speed sub demanded the combined efforts of the Royal Navy and NATO allies."

Ruule Britannia etc
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>>60744017
Do you seriously believe they used a tug boat to pull a submarine?
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>>60744151

Russia's carrier escort group is primarily made of tug boats, so don't be surprised if they believe it is normal.
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>>60744017
Keep sucking down the cum that is state propaganda kiddo.
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Friendly reminder that both the guillotine and the metric system were invented by Brits :)
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>>60743120
they only have an ok militairy because they always join the winning side

in that case Greece is a better local power because they literally have more manpower and equipment
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>>60744367
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>>60744151
It's standard for support vessel to travel with military ships, not alone
Sub went on its own power, ofc, but maybe there's also some protocol or some such for vessels fresh out of a factory and on sea trials.

I have no doubt that the tug was there and the sub was in a surface position and traveling slowly, proparanda is good and all that, but factual verifyable statements like that would be challenged by brits if they weren't true, army spokesman wouldn't skrew up by lying about such simple things
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>>60738503
The brits are good at propaganda.
We french know that well.
Don't believe the eternal anglo lies.
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>>60744894
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

My guess is the Altay is not a tug but a supply vessel, accompanying a slow cruising submarine that was submerged for large parts of the journey but did not actively try to stay hidden either.

It was easily detected, probably by the Danish or something, who then asked the British vessel to accompany it.

I guess 'interception' is not entirely appropriate, but saying that the submarine crew was waving at passers-by or that the Altay is a tug vessel seems highly unlikely as well.
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>>60740051
>Biggest most expensive warship.
Sounds familiar
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>>60745100
it was detected much farther north, if we're to trust the spokesman. as it should have been, logically
> “It is not within reason to expect the Royal Navy, together with NATO allies, not to be capable of spotting a submarine, moreover that merchant ships of various countries steering on opposite and parallel courses had been greeting, in accordance with old naval tradition, our sailors in the Barents, Norway and Northern seas for several days of the passage,” the Russian Ministry said.
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>>60744367
All these great inventions, yet you still measure weight in stones and pebbles, and fuck each other in the ass with pink dildos while Muslims fuck your wives.
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>>60745100
>>60744271
this is how this was covered by brit press? btw
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/1246785/putin-sends-attack-submarine-into-english-channel-just-days-before-englands-russia-clash-at-euro-2016/
> England’s heroes in defence on board Royal Navy frigate HMS Kent had intercepted the Russian supersub in the North Sea.
> Putin’s latest act of sabre-rattling comes ahead of England’s crunch curtain-raiser against Russia on Saturday night at the Stade Velodrome, Marseille.
> This pic also shows a Russian support tug in Putin’s latest act of sabre-rattling

I know it's Sun and all that but the wording is priceless
I mean, considering it's the great Global Power we're speaking of, it's cute how passage of a surfaced small attack sub and a tugboat gets into headlines as a major military achievement
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>>60745391
>major military achievement

I'm one of few real military enthusiasts this board has and I certainly don't regard it as a major military achievement. Just nationalistic drumming.

Pretty much nothing short of the same political back and forth we all have about fighters and bombers flying over air space that we've all been doing for the last 50(?) years.
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>>60745236
>>60745391
kek, that wording is indeed completely ridiculous.
I agree that it seems unlikely that the vessel was actively trying to remain undetected, as the Altay is clearly seen escorting it on footage.

Not every British source should be taken seriously.
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>>60738618
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>>60745643
>Not every British source should be taken seriously.
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>>60738866
TOP KEK

>North Korea
>Israel
>Japan
>Russia and China above USA
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>>60738565
My thoughts exactly
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>>60738866
I bet that Israel could beat the shit out of Brazil.
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>>60750256
Israel is always ready to fight until the last American soldier.
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>>60738866
i found the chink!
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>>60738866
I would put Germany at the 10 place. We already have the technology to build tanks with laser turrets which are capable of killing off a smaller plane. Also, we have the most patents for fullautomatic driving. We could pull off some next gen warfare shit with a little bit of preperation time and might be able to deal with China without nukes (and maybe even with, depending on how fast we get these laser rocket shields up)
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>>60745643
Lel, implying that the British media is more biased than the Russia's is laughable

One Sun headline they hyped up to make a story and your bias seeps through once again Dutchbro
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>>60740051

>Be German
>Navy is at the bottom of Scapa Flow
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Sups bitch niggas?
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>>60750131
Wait, I thought you guys were the second behind Mother China?
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>>60738851
USA, UK, France, yes, but Germany, I am not so sure.
Don't mistake me, I like Germany, but they are one of their own kind.
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>>60754437
hello fellow super power
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>>60749415

Russia has the largest nuclear payload but we basically have total control of the air and oceans.
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>>60740051

This will make a short work on any speedboat.
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>>60756639
>cheaper way to take down small drones
not speedboats
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>>60738503
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/crane-for-navys-new-carriers-arrives-in-scotland

>UK Aricuck Cuckrrier
>Built with a Chinese crane

Cuckcuckcuck
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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/09/europe/britain-royal-navy-warships/index.html

>(CNN)Britain's £1bn ($1.4bn) warships are losing power in the Persian Gulf because they cannot cope with the warm waters, MPs have been told.

>Six Type 45 destroyers have repeatedly experienced power outages because of the temperatures, leaving servicemen in complete darkness.


KEK

Chances are, britain wouldnt even be able to patrol the South China Sea for very long.

I bet they will have the Chinese tow them back to england for a charge.
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>>60738503
Anglos are truly the master race
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>>60738866

These ranking are useless. There is such a HUGE GAP between the first three country and the other, it's like conparing an elephant, a bear an a whale to seven different types of insects. Also

> japan
Lol do they even have an army? Or nukes?

> including France and Uk but not Turkey
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>>60739156
>Uk is shit m8, you still live in the past.


A German underestimating the importance of sea and air power, this has never happened before.
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>>60738618

WOW IS THAT A FUCKING RAMP?

LMAO NOT EVEN OUR SHITTY CARRIER IS THAT SHIT
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>>60739977

Because we are rich as fuck >>60739243
also most of our neighbours are small/poor/irrelevant. Same reasons as Turkey basically
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>>60750256

If they use the US Card. Yeah. Themselves? lol no.
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>>60740637

> implying

Your economy is just slightly less shitty than ours, but you have the same chronical problems of every southern european country mon ami
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>>60761228
In that case, why is Turkey a local power? they're poor as fuck desu
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>>60761090
>There is such a HUGE GAP between the first three country and the other

:^)
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>>60761218
Your shitty carrier can't even launch planes.
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>>60761487

That's why it's shitty, dumb nigger.
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>>60761290
Lol

Our GDP is twice bigger than yours, our private net worth is 3 times bigger, our stock market also 3 times bigger, etc.

We currently have the same Southern Europe problems... but you're quite poor compared to us. We're more an "ill Germany" than a "successful Spain".
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>>60761470
There's also a huge gap between the first and second country m8 :^)
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>>60761605
>his country is below Turkey
:^P
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>>60738503
Your T-45's a shit and cant even repair them.
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>>60738503

im so proud of you UK. the second most powerful muslim nation.. sounds epic.
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>>60764031
We're the most powerful muslim nation actually, Hans.
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>>60761470
>Canada is a regional power
Not if they're only neighbor is a super power.
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>>60738618
>superior British military engineering
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>>60740137
UK man has to notify police 24hrs before engaging in sex


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-tell-police-24-hours-hour-give-notice-before-sex-virtual-prison-a7072156.html
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>>60738503
>2nd most powerful country in the world
>police to afraid to report a couple Muslims for raping and trafficking hundreds of children children
yeah lol totally i believe that good job buddy
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>>60761470
WERE RELEVANT?!!!!
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>>60738866
america would absolutely destroy china. man power isn't a big deal like it used to be. also america has developed an actually rail gun that could be used to protect against nukes.
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>>60738618
>BRITISH NAVAL ENGINEERING IS THIS BAD
>THE REST OF THE WORLD BAR AMERICA IS EVEN WORSE
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>60764088
>We're the most powerful muslim nation actually

rolf..
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>>60738618
>"2nd most powerful country" needs a fucking ramp
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>>60764743

They've been overrun by people that don't know how to drive or fly.

Even with a ramp they can't take off.
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>Anglosphere is still the most powerful sphere in the world.
What is it like to live under the shadow of the Anglosphere? I always wondered what it felt like to live under the graces of a powerful group as this.
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>>60738503

Dude. If you don't think China is world power you are doing it wrong.
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>>60740051

umm. dude. The Cole was a destroyer.
That's a type of small warship.
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>>60764230
>WERE RELEVANT?!!!!

Yes. You have been for a while.
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>>60764906
>Even with a ramp they can't take off.

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic.
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