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Why is there animosity betwee Europe and Russia? Cant we be friends?
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Why is there animosity betwee Europe and Russia?
Cant we be friends?
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>>60730996
Because there is some third-world countries in the EU like Poland that hates Russia for some reasons.
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>>60732315
this
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>>60732315
so what do you want from another third-world country?
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>>60732315
If Poland is 3rd world then what does that make Russia? 5th world?
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>>60730996

What is this animecity you speak of?
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>>60730996
I'm sure the Russians know better than to trust the eternal German
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>>60732315
Not because of this.
>>60732693
Actually second. Term of "N-world" was originated when WarPac existed, so the were 3 world, 1 world was NATO, 2 was WarPac and third - other countries.
>>60732710
iichansk, of course! :3
>>60732765
What's so bad in German? Except muslims.
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>>60734162
>What's so bad in German?
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>>60734193
DDR was the best Germany.
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German-Russian friendship is America's worst nightmare.
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>Middle East/Islam
Prays with their heads to the ground, hard materialists. Mathematics for commerce. Their world feeling is projected DOWN into the ground.

>Russia/Orthodox
Prays out towards the horizon of the steppe. The word "space" did not exist in ancient Greek, only developed mathematics to three dimensions. Build out and not up. Religion as a brotherhood of men: See Tolstoy. Their world feeling is projected out along the HORIZONTAL.

>Western European
Prays up toward the heavens. Builds up. Believes in boundless/limitless space. Mathematics immensely abstract. Their world feeling is UP towards the infinite.

There have been three political Empires in "Europe"

>Britannia
>Francia
>Russia

Each have their own destiny. Russians cannot be spiritually European, the British can never be politically European
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>>60734760
>>Britannia
>>Francia
>>Russia
aaaaaaa
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>>60734760
> >Middle East/Islam
> Prays with their heads to the ground, hard materialists. Mathematics for commerce. Their world feeling is projected DOWN into the ground.

> >Russia/Orthodox
> Prays out towards the horizon of the steppe. The word "space" did not exist in ancient Greek, only developed mathematics to three dimensions. Build out and not up. Religion as a brotherhood of men: See Tolstoy. Their world feeling is projected out along the HORIZONTAL.

> >Western European
> Prays up toward the heavens. Builds up. Believes in boundless/limitless space. Mathematics immensely abstract. Their world feeling is UP towards the infinite.

Are you drunk, pal?
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>>60732315
>some reasons

Russians are savages
Their recent exploits prove that

There can be no lasting peace between civilization and russian barbarians
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>>60735454
Too fat, my slavic brother.
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leave it to the germans to beg russia for mercy :^)
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>>60735454
Why Poland so buttblasted about other post soviet slavs?
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>>60735525
No need for insults, my islamig mongolian friend
I merely stated facts
>>60735475
Sorry, I dont speak mongolian
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>>60735454
Russians and Poles are literally the same people (slavs)
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>>60735726
Germans are niggers of Europe
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>>60735788
why are you so rude, friend? I just stated the obvious
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>>60735843
So did I

No idea what rudeness are you talking about
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>>60730996
Europe should die already.
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i hope russian niggers die
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>>60735975
literally half of your country is russian
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>>60732315
>for some reason
lmao
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>>60732315
>for some reason
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>>60735975
slava ukraini
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>>60736007
what do you think of the Brexit
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>>60735999
proof?
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>>60736000
>>60736007
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>>60735999
>>60736000
checkd

>>60736031
I think it's stupid and im voting to remain
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>>60736036
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#Demographics
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>>60734760
>Western European
>Prays up toward the heavens. Builds up. Believes in boundless/limitless space. Mathematics immensely abstract. Their world feeling is UP towards the infinite.
I think you mean
>Western European
>has an impressive fedora collection
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>>60736053
>I think it's stupid and im voting to remain
Kek, slave to Germans. How does this feel for you?
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>>60736062
thats only crimea
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>>60732315
>for some reasons
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>>60736169
>crimea
not part of Ukraine ;^)
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>>60736186
yeah there's no reason
you started that shit first
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Because they invaded a sovereign state.
Where the fuck have you been for the last two years?
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>>60736296
so what?
America does it all the time. Why should it concern us?
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>>60736296
You mean, like the USA in 2003?
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>>60736107
>15% population
>20% GDP
>Underrepresented in Parliament
>Same votes as us italy and france on the council
>germany=EU guise!!11!1 xDDDD

We have the standard easy access to the largest largest single market allowing us free movement of people and goods etc.
But in reality we have attained special snowflake status in the EU. We have a lot of exemptions (Schengen, Euro, further political integration etc.) in the EU but still have a lot of influence in it. I think we have a unique position due to your history with the EU and it would be foolish to throw it away because we would not be able to get back the same relationship we have now.
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>>60736254
in 1605?
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>>60736226
that proves my point further, ahmed
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>>60736332
Iraq deserved it
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>>60736344
>He actually thinks Merkel is not running the EU
Delusional, Southern Euros are just extra German votes because they are owned by the Germans. France does whatever Germany says as well.
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>>60736359
Aren't Ukraines and Russians the same people anyway?
Like Germans and Austrians?
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>>60736381
>a fucking belarusian specialist on eu
lmao
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>>60736354
yes
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>>60730996
because europe(germanic tribes) contantly attacked, plundered and murdered innocent and peacefull slavs for centuries.
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>>60730996
Because of us, I suppose. Russia annexed Crimea and now you must subdue your economic interests for our struggle. If to be more precise, to the US interests.
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>>60736442
if we say sorry will you give Ukraine and Georgia their clay back?
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>>60736432
I bet I know more about it than you. You have to know enemies well.
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>>60734342
>>60734412
so naive....germans still hate russians behind the back.

t:insider
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>>60736491
kek sure you do
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>>60736450
>Us interests

/thread
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>>60736512
>Pole knows nothing about EU so presumes everyone else must be the same
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>>60736529
t. a belarussian eggsbert
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>>60736450
lenin(jew) literally invented your country to split russian tribes and make them kill eachother.
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>>60732315
>for some reason

french education
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Yes.
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>>60730996
our overlords in the US dont want that. And as NATO-slave we have to do what they want.
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>>60736559
aah fucking polaks, it is the judas ischariot of slavs, always betray, always backstabb like a snake.
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>>60735726
>
>east germans are literally the same people as the british
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>>60736491
Don't even bother arguing wiht thim, Poles are disgusting EU shills
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>>60736470
Crimea is historical russian
And Ossetians just wanted protection from gayorgian
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>>60736594
We get fucked by Germans and we fucked Germans during a lot of time. Same thing with English.

But now we are in good terms, maybe because we are not animals.
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>>60730996
>Cant we be friends?

I have nothing against Russian government, I only hate Russians
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>>60736613
russian diaspora detected

>>60736667
so did chechens lmao
lmaoing @ russian revisonism kek
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>>60736395
no, its more like with turks and germans
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>>60736395
Not in the current year.
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>>60736659
Based Greeks
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>>60736700
Goddamn it I laughed
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>>60736659
AND WE DON'T HAVE REFERENDUM
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>>60736254
>yeah there's no reason
never forget you fuck
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>>60736659
How exactly is Europe supposed to compete in an increasingly globalized market without the EU

wouldn't it be better to solve the refugee crisis while still keeping the EU
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>>60736659
lel, that's gotta be skewed
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>>60736851
revenge for 1605
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>>60736843
>france
>democracy

more like democrazy amiright haha :D
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>>60736876
>wouldn't it be better to solve the refugee crisis while still keeping the EU
tell this to that german whore
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>>60736851
> be polish
> spread communism in russia
> get killed in katyn 20 years later
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>>60736918
The last time we had a referendum we said NO, but government finally said YES.
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>>60730996
Winter war
Split up of Polish commonwealth
Crimean war
Occupation of Baltic states
Split up of polish republic
Soviet Polish war
Occupation and annexation of Bukovina and Bessarabia
Warsaw pact
Mass Deportations that lead to huge ethnic tensions

It's a tsundere country
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>>60736997
warsaw pact was a counter-pact to stop NATO
NATO was created first
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We used to be friends after all we've been through. Then the EU came and said no.
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>>60737048
to stop NATO from what
keeping you from taking over all of the continent rather than just most of it?
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>>60736565

quieter , you can call bathert have this hohol
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>>60737048
>the bloodiest regime in entire human history
>keeps wondering why nato was founded
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>>60736565
maximillian (jew) literally invented your country to split germanic tribes and make them kill eachother.
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>>60737084
>we
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>>60736927
So the polish-soviet war was about spreading communism in russia? Good to know you can't even make a revolution on your own ;^)
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>>60737128
to be fair mao's great leap was bloodier, but no one cares because lelchinks
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>>60736332
>>60736319
Yes, yes. I forgot about all our newly annexed territory and puppet states.
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>>60737108
>>60737128
Le brainwashed sheep, believe more news papers, bipolar world was profitable for both sides
I read more and more how west built fucking huge fabrics in SU, how SU traded with west and now victims of propaganda come here and say it was all serious thing

>>60737180
> Good to know you can't even make a revolution on your own ;^)
VERY good to know. ftfy
Who wants to destroy own house?
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>>60737244
>annexed
uhm, there was a referendum in Crimea and they democratically decided to join Russia
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>>60737216
why should we care when chinese revere the guy
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>>60736344
Good argument.

You need to form a cobservative block with ozjers though.

Would like to see immigrants yes merkel be held in check.

>>60736296
The annexation is far worse, literally what hitler did wigh german minorities.

But the west did shit in mena , so one cant complain about JUST invading.
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>>60737264
You're saying in one post that SU was a good thing and a bad thing, decide on one.
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>>60736613
Ivan, relax.

Argue less emotional.
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>>60737264
Wasn't profitable for people behind the Iron Curtain who wanted nothing to do with Russia
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>>60730996
yurope doesnt really exist.


its a case of mistaken identity

like USSR or USA
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>>60737162
no upboats?
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>>60736676
Thanks, my roman-gaulic friend.

Learned about Alihot on /int/ and will try to cook it soon.
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>>60737329
> You're saying in one post that SU was a good thing and a bad thing

where

>>60737360
"Sides" = elites of USA+ elites of USSR

"People" haha you fucking unironically say America cares for local peasants all over the world?
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>>60736919
Thats what you get, now we are hyper morale!

At least openly...

Ask the pope, he zhunks Merkel is right.


I don"t , but eh...
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>>60737432
>>60737264
>bipolar world was profitable for both sides
>Who wants to destroy own house?
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>>60737432
peasants in the US are far more well off than in Russia
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>>60730996
Different political agendas
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>>60737162
Eh.

The whole jewish thing is overplayed.
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>>60736450
>If to be more precise, to the US interests.
The deal Russia got ass-blasted about was with the EU not us. It served their interests.
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>>60737264
you are the one brainwashed
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>>60737504
Farmer fag here. I can confirm I probably live better than the average Russian
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>>60737275
Its still Sudetenland tier and you kmow it.
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>>60730996
>Be european
>support communist ideas and traditions
>hate Russia more than anything
SLAVA UKRAINE
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>>60737162
no, jews united us to kill romans and latter the slavs. we are their slaves to destroy white race.
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>>60737432
Oh yeah our hypothetical "elites" are to blame for Russia invading half of europe and popping a squat for half a century.

nah I'm not buying that the cold war was just the la lu le li lo, I think Russia did something shitty and you're rationalizing it through a "everything is corrupt" lens like russians always do when they do something shitty.
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How is Russia doing economic wise now?
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>>60737569
>support communist ideas and traditions
and what are commie traditions?
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>>60737382
There is an understanding between western european countries at least.

Benelix,germany and france as well as austria share a lot and are core eu with italy.

>>60737400
Aligot.
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>>60736613
>aah fucking polaks, it is the judas ischariot of slavs, always betray, always backstabb like a snake.
They don't seem to have problems with the other Western Slavs. They only really despise Russians.
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>>60737619
something like this
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>>60737647
>There is an understanding between western european countries at leas


and what "understanding" is this?


who fucks whom over the hardest?

lol
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>>60737593
m8, you have far more soldiers in Europe than we do, the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>60737562
Not really.
Its like northen ireland having a referendum for independance and joining ireland afterwards
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>>60737638
Deportations
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>>60737619
since sanction the goverment made a huge profit

also putin and his gang bought up realy realy realy cheap russian dax due to annexation.

the agrarian sector raised up to 18% due to sanctions.

putin literally used the sanctions to force russians to produce their own kind. he also forced the elite to do his biding.

it is doing very well.
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>>60737748
ok.
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>>60737720
US troops actually leave when asked, like when France pulled out of NATO
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Is Russia the main reason American troops are still in Europe?
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>>60737769
>also putin and his gang bought up realy realy realy cheap russian dax due to annexation.


arent they still at war over there though?
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>>60737819
pretty much yes
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>>60730996
putinversteher pls
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>>60737809
> US troops actually leave when asked
Sure, you'll also return German gold one day, no doubts here, m8. Lol
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>>60737882
and u will return german clay amirite
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>>60737882
What German gold? You're the ones that ransacked Berlin and created monuments from their demolished buildings.
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>>60737638
starvation
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>>60737928
What clay, Kaliningrad? They wouldn't take it anyway
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>>60732315
why did you accept Poland in EU, are you nuts?
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>be german
>start destroing Europe
>"L-look at the Poles, they don't like russians"!!

Kek, nice try Merkel.
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>>60736659
Some of the ones here bitch about the EU frequently if I'm going to be honest.
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>>60737882
>russian talking shit about returning stolen german stuff
like pottery
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>>60737862
there is literally nothing wrong with understanding putin
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>>60737638
poor quality products

poor quality life

tyranny

shit

disease

corruption


shall I continue, the list just keeps going and going.
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>>60737943
> What German gold?
Figures. Typical American
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>>60737715
Similar to scandies and the whole V4 shit.
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>>60737977
polish clay too
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>>60736444
Don't flatter yourself,you've failed in the vast majority of cases.
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>>60737943
he is refering to german gold reserves which are "kept safe" in america
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>>60738031
T. Schroeder
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>>60737995
>implying i am at the head of state

We had a referendum about European Constitution, we said NO (like Netherlands) but our lobby-dicksucker-government said YES. What can we do?
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>>60737504
> le russia a poor bait
0/10 i already know that
>>60737477
> "Sides" = elites of USA+ elites of USSR

>Who wants to destroy own house?

Sure revolution just ruins country

>>60737593
I don't think basically about suffering eastern germans/czechs/polish. "Evil russia oppressed innocent cute slovaks" is nothing for me, i think more about my people.
American thought: ebil ussr oppressed jews and hungarians.
My thought: extremely ebil ussr oppressed jews so hard that they were emigrating to west long before russians got free borders. Poles were oppressed so hard that they were buying american goods without problems.

idk you can discuss it with your western friends, just be ready to hear "yeah but lived so much better than us and we're still oppressors" from every russian.


>>60737819
Half-dead oil pipe whose rulers keep moniez&kids&everything in western countries, making gas&oil with western machine, with military budget around 10% of american budget = "biggest bully in the worlld".

To stop white-blue-red menace bully america puts more and more bases in the world.
Conspiracy theory? Absolutely not ;)
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>>60737721
Why not?

The sudeten wanted to join too.
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>>60737827
russia is contantly at war.
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>>60738031
gotta get that gaz, Hans
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>>60738085
I think with Schröder, the Ukraine crisis wouldnt have happend
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>>60738085
Putin is a boring old man, he just wants rule here ;_;


idk what problems can poles have in understanding putin
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>>60738111
And, Germany would have been a Russian satalite by now. Kinda like the Baltic.
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>>60737995
slavelabour
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>>60738098
Hitler took a bit more than just the Sudetenland
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>>60730996
Because the Western civilization has been intentionally dehumanizing her since the days of Peter the Great?

>>60736997
The split-up of the Polish Commonwealth was predominately supervised by Germanic countries.

>>60737108
What are you on about?You and the British have practically given all of Eastern Europe to the Soviets in return for Western Germany during the conference of Yalta.
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>>60738027
> stolen
You might want to check the definition of the word "stealing" in a dictionary.
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>>60738142
russia has an economy the size of Italy
how exactly is it gonna dominate germany?
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>>60738062
>V4

I've only ever entered one of those bullshit thread to troll, because I know it's a crock of shit.

lol V4

lmfao
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>>60738142
choose

cute russian girls flooding ur country

or

violent black arabs

french choose black because of the cock

we like hairy men this is why turks are welcome here.
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>>60738188
the same way like 1945
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>>60738071
What Polish clay, Ahmed? Alcohol is haram, why the fuck are you drunk again? We don't even have a border with Poland (except Kaliningrad, which doesn't really count), how on Earth can we have their clay? Ask Ukrainans and Belorussians, it's their problem now
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>>60738211
>we like hairy men
are most o the turks hairy? I have hairs fetish also, maybe I should go to Turkey
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>>60738171
I'm on about doing the best we could've done considering the situation at the time. There was no "giving", Russia could take it and thus would take it.
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>>60738150
You also took more, otherwise people living there wojldnt have tried fighting back.

>>60738191
I guess poland has no friends, only people that owe them for fucking with them.
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>>60738091
get rekt faggot
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>>60738263
germany will invide russia and russia will fight back?
i dont really see how it fits to having better relations with russia
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>>60738294
it's doesnt pay off to have "friends"

not on this continent my "friend"..lol
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>>60738188
Russia is a 25 years old capitalist society that had to build herself up to a respectable level without anyone's assistance,unlike Western Europe.
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>>60738294
>You also took more
Whome exactly do you mean by "you"?
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>>60738267
>what is forced relocation?

its not like your grandparents didnt moved all over under soviet rule
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>>60736659
Post something that actually matters now.
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>>60738095
>idk you can discuss it with your western friends, just be ready to hear "yeah but lived so much better than us and we're still oppressors" from every russian.
nah, Russian SSR had higher standards of living than Poland
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>>60738336
I dont really understand which argument you are trying to make
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>>60738172
You're right, "rob" is the correct term for when you use force to steal.
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>>60738384
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>>60738364
Sorry, russians.

Switched into talk-to-diaspora mode, which is unfair.
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>>60738395
>nah, Russian SSR had higher standards of living than Poland


yeah thanks to them syphoning off their satellite states"

why do you think that shitter eventually collapsed?
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>>60738414
he's implying that russia is just going to get bigger because it has only been capitalist for a comparatively short period of time, even though that makes no sense and russia is a gas station masquerading as a country
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>>60738375
The fuck are you even trying to say? Are you trying to speak English using Arabic grammar? I have no idea what you're saying, Ahmed, get some sleep and stop drinking, for god's sake
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>>60738489
you must understand him, it's not easy to switch to English after years of speaking Arabic
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>>60738480
>russia is just going to get bigger


you're pretty clueless about the reality of russia's current situation.
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>>60738480
Nah, i think he's saying russia is a shithole because it has only had 25 years to transition and no one has helped them understand how to build a functioning first world country.
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>>60738438
a huge majority of crimeans was for joining Russian federation
A few of them (muslim tatars) didn't accept the democratic referedum and resort to terrorism
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>>60738541
read the rest of the post before replying
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>>60738395
It's not true.
Poland was more free, poles used dolalrs without being put in jail, at least communism lasted only for 45 years instead of 73 and harmed country less.

Russia fed all the "allies" instead of feeding herself.


>>60738543
There wasn't such plan to make russia democratic. They knew it will be turned into brasil â„–2
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>>60732315
>for some reasons.

A genuine enigma I'm sure
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>>60735624
> Sorry, I dont speak mongolian
English is mongolian? LMAO
But what language do you speak in England while looking for a job there?
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>>60738461
i know it but that Russian actually thinks that the satellite states benefited from all this shit
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>>60738555
Oh right, the democratic referendum held immediately after the military occupation and with an approval rate of 124%.
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>>60732315

>hate russia for some reason

And I assure you the reason is fully justified.


all of russia's neighbors hate them,

just to clue you in some what
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>>60732315
>for some reasons
top lel
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>>60730996
Of course we're all gonna be friends in the future, fighting is forbidden between muslims.
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Ahh, those butthurting polska kurwas, perfect.
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>>60738645
Russia invited western election observers to Crimea.
But they didnt want to come
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>>60732315
>for some reasons
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>>60738645
So what? What so bad about annexation?
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>>60738645
nah only complete morong can believe that crimeans didn't really want to join russia

it's obvious they were always pro-russian

the only question is that we annexed territory
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>>60738717
>muh butthurt
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>>60738769
that happend a long time ago though
germans even tried to genocide poles and we are friends now
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>>60738769
So? This was a payback for 1922.
And oh, don't forget about "assassination" of your president, lad :)
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>>60738717
stfu you dumb fucktard drunkard kacapie
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>>60737943
He's probably refering to the gold we supposedly are holding in fort Knox for the Krauts. Supposedly they asked for it and we said no. So there are a fuck ton of conspiracy theories about it.
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russians are toxic scum

the entire world should NEVER trust them
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tfw no qt german bf ;_;
ps i am gay
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>>60738831
Polska tsundere doesn't know how to tell Russia about her feelings.
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>>60738890
just give it back then, I'd never even heard of it.
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>>60738645
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation#Crimean_public_opinion
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>>60738873
Or what?
(I hope you're trolling, though. If not, facepalm.
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>>60738989
so polls are a valid casus belli now?
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russia swore to uphold ukranian territorial integrity after they gave up their nukes
then they invaded and lied about it
now people on the internet defend this
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>>60739060
Russias official casus belli was that russian minorities are opressed on Crimea.
Russia then liberated Crimea, which then decided to join Russia, after a referendum
And whichever way you think about the whole issue, you must agree that at least its good that nobody died in Crimea, unlike in eastern Ukraine
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>>60739163
so someone should declare war on Russia as they oppress people of Dagestan and Chechnya
pretty sure Siberia will want and independence too
just let me get those polls and we can invade Russia :^)
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>>60739157
The USA invaded a sovereign country because they had invisible weapons of mass destruction.

I'm not a russiaboo but the world is not black and white.
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>>60739157
USA claimed Hussein had biological weapons, where are these weapons?
What about invading counties without the UN permission?
Who firstly supported islamic terrorism?
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>>60739157
>usa swore to dont extend nato to east after russia gave up their yoropoors
then they invaded and lied about it
now people on the internet defend this
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>>60739221
isn't that what USA is doing all the time?
declaring wars to liberate opressed people or to bring democracy?
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>>60739244
>>60739252
When you ask people in America if the Iraq War was justified, the overwhelming majority will say no.
When you ask people in Russia if the invasion of Ukraine was justified, the overwhelming majority will say yes.
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>>60739221
Lol, declare war to us, I want to have a manor near Danzig. With your sister as a wife ^_^
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>>60739285
pretty much
saddam, kaddafi, assad are all oppressive dictators
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>>60739060
The thing is that some Westerners claim that the result was faked, that Crimeans were forced to vote and that nobody actually wanted to be part of Russia, which is simply wrong.
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>>60739283
No evidence of that other than hearsay, that seems pretty important, you'd think it'd be in the treaty.
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>>60739314
Is life democratic and free now there?
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>>60739306
>When you ask people in America if the Iraq War was justified, the overwhelming majority will say no.

Just ask the same question in 2003
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>>60739353
I guess you got the Chaos ending in SMT IV
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>>60739306
Iraq isn't originally United Statian clay.
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>>60739365
so wait, are you implying that we will come to realize that what Russia did was wrong ten years from now
well I hope they pull out from Crimea like we pulled out from Iraq
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>>60739306
It matters nothing, my friend, if to talk about what "majority" "thinks".
Also, USA invaded Iraq and after that Iraq is total shithole. Russia annexed Crimea and started rebel support after Ukraine became a shithole because of violent government change supported and financed by USA.
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>>60739307
>implying Russa can compete with NATO
wew lad
your soviet era weapons are going to crumble the second we declare war

>>60739327
pretty sure the results would differ if the referendum wasn't conducted under a threat of russian rifles
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>>60739353
yes much much freedom now
better than before
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>>60739422
It's Europe, every clay used to be somebody else's clay. If Spain invaded you today should we just chalk it up to history?
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>>60739353
in western europe?
yes

russia?
no
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>>60739502
Yes and the opinion polls by Gallup and Pew were conducted under the threat of Russian rifles as well.
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>>60738831
>we are friends now
>POLAN I AM CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR FASCIST TENDENCIES, TAKE IN ISLAMIST IMMIGRANTS OR WE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER SANCTIONS
yeah fuck off
also
>long time ago
Less than a century, which means that some of the people who were there are still alive. So no, it's really not that long.
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>>60739502
>uses soviet weaponry mostly
> soviet era weapons are going to crumble the second we declare war
LOL. We'll meet in Warsaw, pal.
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>>60739509
You can't compare a 20 years revendication with a 500 years old one. And you know it.
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>>60739492
oh please, Ukraine elected somebody Russia didn't like and you violated your agreement with them for it. Disgraceful.
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>>60739599
>POLAN I AM CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR FASCIST TENDENCIES, TAKE IN ISLAMIST IMMIGRANTS OR WE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER SANCTIONS
Thats only because we are concerned with your wellbeeing. We wouldnt want polan to turn into a dictatorship
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>>60739635
>Ukraine elected somebody Russia didn't like
actually, there was a coup in Ukraine and the democratically elected president had to flee
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>>60739616
>LOL. We'll meet in Warsaw, pal.

>he thinks he'll be deported west

oh boy
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>>60739616
cmon bud, wars are XX century
even you are not trying to create an 'clear war'
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>>60739569
polls are just polls
500 respondents are not all Crimeans

>>60739616
lmao those delusions of grandeur
check if your ppsh is still working lad
we are coming at you with predators
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>>60739627
Wikipedia says Crimea had been in Ukranian hands since 1954. Not that it matters much to me, 1 year or 500 years. It's not like there's a statute of limitations on when irredentistic war is justifiable.
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>>60739635
> Ukraine elected
After rebellion in Kiev, why didn't you mention this?
Also, we do what we want to do now, just like you, and you don't like it.
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>>60738435
>Anyone having a favorable view
Who did they question? Gypsies? People that never met Gypsies?
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>>60739509
17th century and 20th century are a bit different.
A lot of Ukranians are still ethnically Russian, and might I remind you Crimea actually voted on joining Russia.

It wouldn't have been necessary if the U.S. hadn't instated a coup in Ukraine to replace the leaders with Western puppets.

I don't love Russia, but Russia's involvement in Ukraine is more justified than Iraq, which was invaded under false WMD claims.
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>>60739710
>wars are XX century
*tips fedora*
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>>60739728
Same with the views on muslims and countries that have large muslim diasporas
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>>60739725
You do what you want, and that's the topic of the thread: why people don't like Russia.
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