Why doesn't this matter to you, Euros?
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/reuters/eu-ministers-tighten-gun-controls-in-wake-of-terrorist-attacks/42219048
Is it simply the norm for the European Parliament to up and decide to limit what you can and can't own?
I know you guys probably don't own or shoot guns on a regular basis, but surely the simple idea that someone you didn't vote for gets to write legislation affecting the entire continent?
And they use that power to drum up arbitrary regulations on whatever they damn well please.
Does it just not bother you?
Shit like this is why I am voting exit fatty-sama
>>60612455
Even Swissbros will have this forced down their throat because lel open borders agreements.
>>60612455
Exit and become a bitch with no voice.
>>60612408
Because I'm not a part of the EU.
And chances are we will never be.
>>60612830
>exit and re-solidify the 53 state commonwealth politically and economically, while allowing for conditional free movement between commonwealth realm nations
ftfy
EU is too pervasive.
>>60612408
>someone you didn't vote for gets to write legislation affecting the entire continent?
Members of the European Parliament are directly elected by citizens of the EU
>>60612455
exit because you want your companies to be able to export to the world at their own means not because the eu wants to prop up their continentals
exit because you believe in that your elected representatives have to make a show of appeasement to keep their jobs
exit because you want to know that uk can take care of itself without the continentals say or input
exit because the world economy is changing at a very fast pace, either head for the eye of the storm and come out more versatile and efficient or be shielded by the extension of the cold war bureaucracy and end up with very high cost of living trying to support the continentals are your own detriment
>>60612963
Not since 1999
Every elections with less than 50% turnout rate is a joke.
>>60612408
I don't own a gun and I don't care
>>60613358
Weren't they elected by popular vote? They were
Voter apathy is another issue. People don't understand how the EU works.
>>60612963
No they're not, and they don't write legislation either. They just get to rubber stamp whatever the European Council hands them.
>>60612865
You have any gats Serbian friend?
Nice """""sovereign countries""""" you have there, EUfriends.
>>60612408
I' voted to save the gun right.
https://www.change.org/p/council-of-the-european-union-eu-you-cannot-stop-terrorism-by-restricting-legal-gun-ownership
Please vote too.
>>60613460
>No they're not
They are
>and they don't write legislation either
European Commission, whose members are selected by national governments (each contry gets one commissioner), does that
European Council consisting of heads of the EU governments sets the agenda
>>60613444
Popular vote ?
42% of the people voted, in every single country that is a democratic one, elections would have to be redone, that is the law.
Not so in the EU.
Think about it, EU has like 500 million citizens, let's say 300 million are eligible voters,
42% turnout rate would put it at 130ish million people who voted.
Biggest party won 25% percent of votes.
that's 30ish million people.
So a group for which 30 million people voted, holds most power in EU.
Which has 500 million people ? How is that fair or democratic ? It's not.
Every country would redo the elections like this.
>>60613488
Zastava M70AB2 and Zastava CZ-99, father brought them back from the army.
>>60613758
Nice. CZ-99, learned about a new gun today. Peace from Gun-topia.
>>60613758
>Zastava M70AB2 and Zastava CZ-99, father brought them back from the army.
I have a CZ-99 and a Serbian sword, father brought them back from the army.
>How is that fair or democratic ? It's not.
It is, the people voted.
>>60613758
>42% of the people voted, in every single country that is a democratic one, elections would have to be redone, that is the law.
>Every country would redo the elections like this.
There isn't a single country that has a minimum turnout for general elections. Not one.
Decision making in the EU parliament is done through consensus.
Christian Democrat, Socialist and Liberal factions have to agree if they want to do something
>>60613690
>government
Still not democratic enough desu
Parliament should get to chose a country's envoy
>>60612408
It bothers me.
Fuck the EU and the overpaid drooling regards that lead it.
only ameriturds care about guns desu
percentage of guns is household is a direct indicator of low average iq in the country
>>60614002
Yeah, I agree
Anyway, yapping about undemocratic EU is bullshit
>>60613968
>>60613758
This is how it looks like. See how fractured it is?
>>60613924
>Serbian sword
gib back please.
>people voted.
So there will be an election in Croatia soon right ? When the government falls apart ?
If only 30% of the vote and the party you don't want to win, won, you would be completely fine with that ?
>>60613968
Uhm, they do ?
I remember a party that one the elections here, but the voter turnout was 44%, so the elections had to be redone.
>>60614114
>If only 30% of the vote and the party you don't want to win, won, you would be completely fine with that ?
Yes. People have a right to not vote.
>>60614114
That's unusual
Quora are common in referenda. It's 50% here
When will Euros finally understand that terrorists and criminals will get their weapons one way or another regardless how tight that laws are and eventually leave the civilians defenseless if an attack ,similar to the one in Paris, happens?
>>60614274
>Israel
>Wanting anyone but the Chosen to have guns
What is this?
>>60614214
it wasn't a referendum, it was an election.
>>60614198
I suppose so, but you can't exactly call the process democratic then.
>>60614054
Don't you have a bull to prep?
>>60614274
Paris terrorists got some of their weapons from Slovakia.
Reactivated decommissioned vz.58
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/following-the-path-of-the-paris-terror-weapons-a-1083461.html
but we are up in arms against this
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>>60612408
Why do u still not shot by cop?
>>60614314
Israel wants everyone but Muslims to have weapons.
>>60614367
That's exactly my point, they will have one way or another to get their guns.
>>60614399
Where was that one made? Never seen those markings before.
The only ones we get are milsurp or Chinese.
Mine's a Sino-Soviet (Early chink manufacture with Soviet oversight) that the chinks sold to Albania at some point.
![jesus-wearing-the-thorn-of-crowns[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7g5aHDR.jpg "jesus-wearing-the-thorn-of-crowns[1].jpg")
>>60614397
>But Finland, the Baltic states and non-EU Switzerland, which is, however, included in the EU measures, were among countries to win exemptions for sports people, hunters, collectors, museums and national militias.
We only needed to ask, lol.
>>60614774
>Only people who can afford spending 100+ euros a year on club fees alone should be allowed to have guns!
>>60614829
>implying you can even get a gun without being a member in such club here
>>60614548
That's no excuse for doing nothing and making it easier for them.
Some loopholes will be closed and that is going to make obtaining illegal weapons harder and more costly.
When you have many, even legal weapons, some of them get stolen, lost or bought without licence.
>>60614983
>Proving my point
>>60615233
>easier for them
for criminals
People don't care or have a need for guns here, so why would we give a damn?
>>60612408
Because "This is not America."
>>60614274
>When will Euros finally understand that terrorists and criminals will get their weapons one way or another regardless how tight that laws are and eventually leave the civilians defenseless if an attack ,similar to the one in Paris, happens?
And when did any normie from any country realized that?
Even libruls in the US who are extremely vocal do nothing but scream for gun control.
![op-sks-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ke0EYfs.jpg "op-sks-1[1].jpg")
>>60614663
OP-SKS - is civil-version of SKS-45. Bayonet and range was cut. Adaptation for Russian laws.
>>60615447
Are they new production or converted milsurp?
>>60615247
>understanding that you had no point at all
>>60615447
And how exactly did the limit the range?
>>60615425
>Even libruls in the US who are extremely vocal do nothing but scream for gun control
Gee, I wonder why
inb4 muh niggers
Why do you think they got those weapons in the first place?>>60615233
>>60615479
Converted. There is a lot of converted weapons in pneumatic, traumatic, signal, airsoft and something else. In old warehouses still lie revolvers imperial times.
>>60615526
Do something with barrel and sight.
>>60615724
So, they just changed the rear sight?
>>60614054
Source: Your Syrian stuffed ass.
>>60615798
Yep. Cut up to 300 m.
>>60615724
>>60615798
Reducing the elevation of the rear sight seems silly. Just because the military version is graduated out to 1000m doesn't mean you can actually hit anything that far away with it.
>>60616112
But why? You aren't going to hit anything reliably with 7.62x39 past ~400m with good ammo. Drops like a rock.
>>60616129
>>60616228
That's just fucking bureaucracy. Don't try to find the logic.
>>60612408
Good.
Shooting is a hobby for fat virgin neckbeard losers. Seriously, I've never seen a non-autistic person who was into firearms.
