ITT: Mature discussion of world events from nations that have existed long enough to actually have an opinion worth a damn.
Invited: any nation that is at least 200 years old.
daily reminder that the US constitution is the oldest still-used governing document
>>60608710
if the democrats have a say, not for long
>>60605408
We're not even 100.
>>60605408
>touhou
Have you learned nothing
Must I BEAT some sense into you?
>>60608748
soon finfriends
>>60605408
>Elder Nations Thread
>ITT: Mature discussion
And yet you open the fucking thread with a 2D Chinese cartoon girl.
>America thinks it's old
jesus christ
Do all americans lack self-awareness?
>>60608735
>>60608985
>The history of the United Kingdom as a unified sovereign state began in 1707 with the political union of the kingdoms of England and Scotland.
You're literally 69 years older than us.
>>60609106
>1818
two more years little Chile, til then stay out.
>>60609448
In our current form, yes. But that's like saying that the US is only 57 years old because Hawaii became a state in 1959.
>My nearest city's cathedral is 658 years older than America
>>60609509
our declaration of independence was in 1810 retard
>>60609528
Well England is technically from 1066, when Norman William the Conqueror was proclaimed king in Westminster Abbey.
So you're more like 710 years older than the US, but meh. You still have ugly women, so we win.
>>60609917
>>60609106
the bantz are weak here
>>60610247
torries get out
>Let's have a mature discussion!
>Posts a weebshit picture in the OP
>MY COUNTRY IS OLDER THAN YOUR COUNTRY!
k den
>>60609528
By that logic you'd be only 37 years older than us, the last change to your union was 37 years before Hawaii became a state (last change to our union)
>>60609528
>In our current form, yes.
Well if we start shifting goal-posts like that then we might as well accept various tribes as first nations.
>>60610637
Would you please fuck off?
>>60605408
Please let us join we are so close(193 years)!!!!!
>>60608735
Why should a 230-year-old constitution remain unchanged? Times change, the laws should too.
Depends on when you consider Frace to start.
Some consider Vercingetorix uniting Gaul against the Romans as the start. The most common narrative is that France was born with with Clovis converting, uniting the invading germanic Franks with the Gallo-Roman people. Others consider the breakup of Charlemagne's empire to be the start. For others, it started with French revolution. I've even seen some say that it only really started with the Fifth Republic, for some reason I can't understand.
>>60608735
>American education
>>60611202
literally just an observation
>>60609528
In that case, the US is 400 years old which is really pretty close to the modern european nation 2bh, considering that those only came about really in the 1000-1300 period
>>60611087
>Others consider the breakup of Charlemagne's empire to be the start
this is when France starts
1000+ yr old reporting in
>>60611699
more like
>75 years ish
>this thread
>>60608748
You gave us Linux so it's okay Pekka :^)
>>60611046
Latest amendment to the constitution was 1992. It's just a pain in the ass to do because of how much coordination is necessary.
>>60609448
>sovereign state = nation
Dumb Ameridumbs.
>>60612514
How is that Constitution still such a joke? One would figure with such long time someone would have gone trough the extra effort to fix it properly.
>>60611087
In reality, France as a political entity is born at the end of 12th century.
Philippe Auguste become "King of France" in 1180 (rather than "King of the Franks"), and he conquers huge clay for his new kingdom.
>>60612657
Because proposed amendments must be first approved by at least 2/3rds of both houses of congress and then at least 3/4ths of the states (38/50 in 2016) must ratify the amendment in their legislatures.
The amount of effort it takes for this to happen is mind-boggling.
>>60611046
Does human nature change?
No.
>>60612582
What are you, on your 5th republic?
Sounds about as stable as Nigeria t.b.h.
>>60611087
Here's a sweet gif, my republican brother
America is not invited
>>60613047
Charlemagne
>french
>>60613057
>his state is 26 years old
kek
>>60613091
Franks -> Frankreich -> France
What's the problem? Are you still butthurt that France defeated you so hard in 1815 that you swore eternal neutrality?
One of the oldest countries in Europe that still to this date keeps their historic name and about the same borders reporting in
>>60611087
I can't really believe France existing as a country until Charlemagne broke. I mean what would you even try to call them?
>>60613003
Nigeria is a fake nation (it's just a sovereign state that pretends a "Nigerian people", unheard of in history, now exists).
France needn't a political form to exist, the French nation exists regardless of the sovereign entity who taxes her.
>>60613154
Franks =/= French. That's like saying Romans are Italians
Polish country is catholic and existing from 966
our first official ruler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieszko_I_of_Poland
>>60613463
yeah thats because all the Romans went to the now developed world
>>60613230
Actually, I think we're even the oldest one in whole of Europe if you don't count states like the Lombard Kingdom as Italy or the Frankish Empire as France
>>60613279
IMO the closest French state to modern France is West Francia when gavelkind fucked Carolingian empire
>>60613499
nobody gives a shit
>>60610672
>mfw the leafs refer to the indians as the "first nations"
>>60613555
The modern Italy is the one from 1861 so Lombardy is definitely not counted. And you're technically the Bulgaria when you broke free from the Turks the same as Russia from Soviet Union cos Soviet Union =/= Russia :^)
>>60613940
if you kill your natives, they win
>>60605408
>ITT: Mature discussion of world events from nations that have existed long enough to actually have an opinion worth a damn.
>US
>>I'm the same age as my country
