Why can't chinks do it?
But I can you ponce
We cant either.
>>60594320
>>60594320
>mfw
>Though
>Thought
>Tough
>Through
>Thorough
eyjafjallajökull
there's 2 'th' in this pronunciation, tho
I can, but that's because I barely speak chink.
If you're learning ESL as a native chink speaker then quite a few sounds will be difficult as you're not used to them.
Most people around the world can't pronounce the two TH sounds (THink, THat).
>>60595145
do people in singapore mostly speak english?
I'm not Chinese but I couldn't do it for a long time even though I was a able to lisp in Swiss German. Is there another Anon who experienced this?
>>60595035
Not a problem for us and spaniards
>cinco
>vez
>conocer
>cicatriz
>vejez
>>60595386
That's S sound.
>>60595316
German speakers in general are pretty bad with ze TH sing.
>>60594320
It's easy, just say "f" or "z" instead.
>>60595436
>That's S sound.
Non-Andalusian Spaniards pronounce those words as "thinko", "veth", "konother", etc.
>>60595437
I could produce it but only when I was speaking Swiss German with a speech disorder. When I spoke German I couldn't produce the ths.
>>60595482
you will get made fun of for saying zat, it is not ok to do that
Just get your tounge barely not touching your teeth and force air through
>>60595511
-German+English
>>60595511
Then shifting my hypothesis:
In general, speech disorders are indiscriminate. You probably pronounced it as S or TH depending on the surrounding sounds and that's it.
OTOH in English you're required to pronounce both on the same context, like sink/think or thong/song. And this is quite harder.
>>60594320
desu there are harder things about the English language for me, mainly vowels that I'm not used to perceiving as distinct. wander/wonder - I honestly don't know how to pronounce that shit
>>60595525
Then say "f" instead, if "z" is not to your liking.
Sure I can
>>60595582
You mean the W? Say oo-ander really fast.
>>60595590
Its a th, the f spund makes a different word that might me misunderstood and z sounds retarded and will get you made fun of.
If you really can't figure out how to make air rush inbetween your tounge and teeth just pronounce the t and h seperately like t-hat but as one syllable
>>60595576
I didn't have the speech disorder lisping but could imitate it. So I could transform all s into ths. When I spoke English I couldn't produce a th.
>>60595619
The dictionary tells me that wander and wonder have a different sound that comes after the W. I really wonder if Anglos can them apart because I can't.
>>60595582
>wander/wonder
They're pronounced the same
>>60595633
Fat's what you believe. Fe average Norfern American won't notice.
>>60595619
He probably means the vowels represented by A and O in those words.
>>60595590
This is akin to replacing every CH in German with SCH. Nothing more, nothing less.
>Hallo Mädschen! Isch habe disch liebe!
It gets stupid, confusing, annoying and tiring fast.
>>60595386
>we
Out of curiosity, what do you mean by this? Do you speak Castilian Spanish? I know Filipinos that can't pronounce it.
>>60595684
I notice when some of the French immigrants try it in my town to avoid ridicule and it doesn't work
If you can make an F its not far from a Th just replace your bottom lip with your tounge
>>60595663
Oh, you mean A and O? I dont know, it seems easy to me. Never thought about it.
>>60595678
Maybe in your shitty socialist accent.
>>60595482
"t" and "d" are much better sounding, in my opinion.
>>60595684
hans i couldnt pronounce th until i was 9 thanks to having an irish mother who didnt pronounce th's and living in switzerland. put your tongue between your teeth and make an s sound. then do the same with a z sound. its that simple.
>>60595722
dats what i always do because im lazy
>>60595686
That's exactly what people do here. Kirche and Kirsche become identical. If you don't say sch you may be bullied.
>>60595686
That's hardly an adequate comparison, Brazilian.
>>60595705
>implying it's not the constant "le" and "honhon" that gives Frenchies away
>>60595722
That's also a good suggestion. Thank you, American friend.
>>60594320
Slavs can't either
>>60595663
Wonder like W-unter
Wander like Wanda
Pretty different
>>60595760
dont feel bad, i have no idea how to palatalize consonants. щ and ш sound identical to me.
>>60595735
>That's hardly an adequate comparison
Nope, the comparison is quite adequate - in both, you're replacing an exotic fricative (English TH / German Ichlaut) with a "close enough" one (S / SCH respectively). People do notice that.
>>60595732
I was considering Standard, not the Southern accents. It's different when everybody does the same (for obvious reasons).
To make a th sound you can just make an F as in far or fuck and replace your bottom lip with your tounge
>>60595786
Yeah to be fair no one here claims to speak good German either. Straße is pronounced Strase...
>>60595678
>>60595678
No they ain't. W ahhhnder and W ohhhnder
>>60595678
>>60595826
>>60595582
>wander
Pronounced won-der, where won is the SK currency pronounciation not the victory "won".
>wonder
one-der
>>60595482
>>60595722
Dental t and d is what a good portion of Irish people do instead of pronouncing 'th', hence the stereotype of us pronouncing 33 was turty tree.
>>60595974
>won
>원
Literally no difference whatsoever
>>60595861
>>60595974
I guess that's just my accent
In my opinion the difference in pronunciation is negligible and people will understand what you mean anyway
>>60595678
W-under first vowel in "onion"
W-ahnder first vowel in "auto"
>>60595760
It's hard for us to naturally pronounce θ, at least I can do it when speaking slowly, but when I speak in my normal rhythm I doubt anyone except for the eastern Europeans would have an easy time understading me...
>>60595437
True. For some reason a lot of people can't pronounce the "th".
I'd say I can pronounce it, I'd even do a vocaroo if I had a microphone somewhere.
To the Germans here, how do you pronounce the soft ch? I've been told it's like the beginning of "human" and I'm trying to make mine harsher like that but I can't get it. I just keep doing schs
>>60595386
Joder oshtia tio teneish rathon tio
>>60595582
Pretty much this. ʌ and ɑ are almost impossible to distinguish
>>60595684
>>60595590
You, again.
I've had this argument with you before.
TH IS NOT F YOU DUNCE
>>60596438
Yes, exactly. Say human but try to push your tongue more towards the Roof of your mouth, but leave a gap in the middle. Your tongue should Rest on your teeth and you can push the sound through the gap between tongue and roof.
Sounds autistic, but I can't describe it in another way
>>60596800
What, latins don't say joder ? My spanish is decent, I can understand Spaniards talking to each other and that was a verb I heard over and over again, my fav curse word desu
>>60595035
is quite easy, if you didnt go to a public school, m8
>>60594320
but you can't "ryou"
I Guess we are the only people in the world who can pronounce every thing: with a mockable accent though.
>ibiTHa
>zED
>Americans say 'data' as 'dada'
why can't muricas do it?
