Is London the "de facto" capital of Europe?
...for muslims
Brussels is.
>>60574482
Name one city in Europe that's more relevant on the global stage.
>>60574482
What the heck do you mean
>>60574608
Brussels.
>>60574608
Berlin and soon Frankfurt(after brexit)
In terms of NYC being the de facto capital of USA..? Yes, probably. Seems to have replaced Paris in most cultural respects and is "the place" to migrate to for young Europeans to make it.
Btw it's fucking comfy that there is a direct link between Paris and London in 2 hours by train. It's not even that expensive. 2 best cities in Europe by miles.
>>60574608
Brussel, Berlijn
london>brussels>paris>geneva>moscow>the rest
The real power is in Frankfurt (ECB) and Berlin (Merkel).
Prove me wrong.
>>60574689
>>60574629
Brussels is literally irrelevant on the world stage as a city. And Berlin is a massive drain on the German economy because most of it is a shithole. Nothing like London
>>60574608
Paris, Lyon, Milan, Rome, Berlin.
>>60574610
Saw in today's Financial Times:
>>60574687
>"the place" to migrate to for young Europeans to make it.
hilarious if brits actually think this
>>60574629
>>60574663
>>60574689
Deluded. Brussels is a shit city that just happens to host the EU, and Berlin is for lefty artists fags who can't afford to live in London.
>>60574765
pffffffft
>>60574482
I always thought of Paris, Brussels, or Berlin as the "de facto" capital of Europe. London is much more important than those cities (and any city in the world other than New York), but it's more of it's own thing than a center/symbol of Europe.
>>60574765
I'm getting a load of wrong answers here but fucking Lyon takes the cake.
Fucking Lyon holy christ I can't believe you'd type that
>>60574775
It's true though.
>>60574772
>Bethesda
Probably some fucker who works for Lockheed
>>60574752
>>60574786
>Brussels is a shit city that just happens to host the EU
I know, but exactly because it hosts the EU it is so relevant on the global stage
Economically sure, culturally no.
>ITT:Brits actually defend their capital taken over by muslims
Churchill must be rolling in his grave
I nominate Berlin
>>60574482
No, it's Paris, Prague, Rome or a combination of all three
>>60574806
This
>>60574942
prague is in eastern europe. surely you jest
>>60574765
>Lyon
>Berlin
When will non germans understand that its a meme town?
>>60574960
If you've ever been to Prague you'd know it is a fantastic combination of western, central and eastern Europe in one place
>>60574960
Its Central.
Is vienna eastern?
Because Prague is more western located than it.
How can London be capital of anything? It's shithole full of niggers with one at the head of it.
>>60574895
You really think the trends of today aren't defined in London, but rather in Rome, Frankfurt or Paris?
London's media industry (including books) is BTFO'ing the rest of Europe combined.
>>60574999
It's pretty comfy and cheap, though.
>>60574786
Washington is a shit city that just happens to host Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court.
>>60574999
I've been to Berlin and it's rammed with insufferable "arty" types and foreigners no wonder it's a shithole
>>60575096
The difference is that there's real power in Washington, whereas the sick fucks of Brussels (where not all EU institutions are btw) don't really decide stuff.
The big governments (at least UK, France and Germany) do whatever they want in Europe, and the EU must comply.
>>60575096
Exactly. Which is why I took OPs question to mean: >>60574687
Brussels is literally the capital of Europe. Apart from that it's somewhere to change buses or trains. Nothing more.
>>60575100
Turks, English gap years, hipsters and "artists" of various nationalities, awful city
>>60575085
t. brit on vacation
>>60575237
>London is the 6th largest French city
>>60574786
>lefty artists fags who can't afford to live in London.
Why would you ever want to live in London? It's a bleak shithole where everyone has a stick up his ass. At least New York is a serious cultural powerhouse.
>>60575237
'no'
Take the best-selling books of all time: a lot of them were originally published in London, and 0 in Paris.
For the music industry, well, do you want me to compare John Lennon and Johnny Hallyday?
Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
>>60575306
Well, that's just because English is the lingua franca.
>>60574765
>Lyon
Yeah it's very relevant, in France
>>60575306
That's because English has been the global language since the turn of the century, and most of the best-selling books were published after that time.
>>60575301
t. has never lived in London
I mean maybe you visited once and stayed in the West End or something. I know everybody likes to shit on capitals on 4chan, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else 2bh.
>>60575306
Erratum, there's one French book among the best-selling ever (Le Petit Prince).
Compare to the huge numbers of British works:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_books
>>60575410
I have family who live there and often stay with them, m8 it's a pretty damn bleak place, not quite manchester level but still fucking bleak, also the people who go there to "make it" are the worst scum
>>60575345
>>60575399
So that makes London the cultural capital of Europe. Thanks for proving my point. Paris is just an interesting province (not so much these days).
>>60575301
My point btw being, East London is waaaaay more relevant ""creatively"" than Berlin. Berlin is for the lefty faggots that can't afford to live in East London.
>>60574765
>Lyon
???????
>>60575456
It's gritty that's part of it's charm. I wouldn't describe it as bleak though. Although that really depends on where they are. Let me guess: somewhere out West or South of the river?
>>60575493
>if your not rich you dont deserve to be an artist, and your not relevant btw lol
Stop.
>>60575542
City centre, whatever side of the river that is I actually couldn't tell you
>>60574608
Toronto
>>60575559
DESU, you can't be a proper artist unless you're poor.
>>60574482
It's the strongest city, so yes.
>>60575623
There's an art of poverty and an art of richness.
Rimbaud would always have been poor, and Hugo would always have been rich, in any era or any country.
People saying berlin need to its not even the best in Germany.
London then Paris and those two are in a league above the rest
>>60575889
>People saying berlin need to its not even the best in Germany.
What's better? Hamburg is nice, but it's a bit too clean. Munich is way too conservative. Dresden is kinda nice, but certainly not Berlin tier.
