>my """""country""""" is only 155 years old
>there's no unified culture or national identity. It varies wildly from region to region and everyone hates each other
>stronger economical and developmental differences than anywhere else in Europe
>random dialects and even separate languages all over the place
>high number of autonomous regions
>separatist movements with significant support from the population
>somehow people still stereotype and generalize all Italians constantly despite all of this
>mfw
Can't make this shit up.
Is Italy the most artificial country in the world?
tl;dr
MY-A COUNTRY IS-A ONLY A-HUNDREN AN'-A FIFTY-FIVE-A YEARS OLD-A
MAMMA MIA
Leaning tower of pizza hut
Spain has it worse with separatist movements
>>60523392
more artificial than Germany? doubt that.
Hello?
terroni
>>60523555
this. also nice trips.
>>60523419
>>60523392
>different language
Explain
>>60523657
I don't think there's any country in Europe that's as varied as this.
>>60523392
If Italy is artificial Kosovo what is it, an hologram?
>>60523769
you should check out the iberian peninsula
>>60523392
What is Belgium?
>>60523769
Aren't that just dialects?
>>60523769
are those real langs with grammar and shit or just different accents?
>>60523807
>What is Belgium?
He meant real states.
>>60523812
"Lingua" = "language". The dialects are what's included in them.
>>60523812
Sardinian and Sicilian are a lnaguage.
>>60523814
>accents
>polish "Intellectuals"
>>60523772
It's a serbian delusion
>>60523861
You could also break down french, german or spanish regional dialects that way.
Spain and France have regional languages that are also not romance, and even not indo-european.
>>60523861
>>60523863
So somebody from Rome cannot understand somebody from Venetia ?
Or are that different "languages" like Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian ?
>>60523392
>live in the most economically developed south european country
>complain
It's not that bad. However your PM is a punchable son of a bitch btw.
>north conquered the south
>north bitches the south doesn't work
lol why are northeners always so butthurt
>>60523812
Sardinian is definitely a different language. I can't understand shit of what they say.
big regionalism makes enrich the Italian culture
>>60523924
everyone speakes genovese now. like how everybody speaks german now, instead of high german and whatnot. but they do have different accents from the original languages, plus most old people still speak the original languages
>>60524019
This.
But in English.
Reminder that """""Italy""""" is a geographical expression and is therefore a non-country.
>>60523924
They were languages prior to the unification, then became "dialects" for political reasons.
Anyway northern dialects are quite similar, same for central and southern.
>>60523924
They all speak Italian but their original langauges (which are mostly spoken just by old people who know Italian aswell) are different
>>60524004
You mean when we speak Sardinian?
Most people here speak Italian but only a few know Sardinian well
>>60523419
Goddamn Britain you're so bad at shitposting.
Go back to being warring city states like in 16th century.
>>60524084
Sardinian has over 1 million speakers. Maybe it's less common for young people to speak it, but old fucks are the overwhelming majority of your autonomous little island.
>>60523392
finally an Italian acknowledges this
>>60523657
>>60523812
the north has multiple languages, the northwest speaks Gallo-Romance languages, which are closer to French, Venice has a completely isolated language in the Western Romance group and Sardinian likely isolated in the entire Romance group
you could also consider Sicilian a language, although I'd more likely consider it a part of Italian as a macrolanguage
>>60524185
reminder italy started as the kingdom of sardinia
reminder sardinian sounds better than fucking genovese
>>60524079
>>60524084
Where does Italian come from then ?
>>60523392
maybe we should form a club?
>>60524274
genova
>>60524274
it's based on dialects from tuscany.
>>60524274
oh wait shit it's actually from tuscany. it's tuscan
>>60523392
italy is only 155 years old?
is this true? am I really this ignorant of that region of europe or is this just a meme?
>>60524260
Just a question Niko, why do people from balkans constantly bash at each other? Also, why do you hate us so much?
>>60524356
Italian unification happened in 1861. Before that, the peninsula looked like this.
>>60524400
That's really interesting, I might have to do some reading on that sometime.
>>60524305
>>60524327
>>60524334
How did it become the most relevant one ? Are the others dying out, like we are slowly transforming into Niggers and Turks ?
Reminder that the Padania thing exists only because in the 90s the government stopped creating debt in Southern Italy and started using Northerners tax money instead. Culturally it's just a meme.
>>60523392
I think Russia destroys Italy in economic, geographic, cultural, and linguistic diversity.
All countries are artificial m8
>>60524400
sometimes i forget how homogeneous poland is
>>60524400
Would the North be more powerful/rich without the Central and the South ?
>>60524435
more books were written in tuscany during the renaissance, so it became the "cultural" language. when it came to unification they chose tuscan for that reason. most people with studies were already learning it anyway
>>60524435
Because Tuscans are the master race of the peninsula.
>>60524474
except portugal.
>>60523392
>muh country has different states with different cultures so we are not a country
lmaoing at your life, OP
>>60524435
the search for a unified "italian" language started in the late XIII century with Dante Alighieri from Florence. Then after the unification of Italy the tuscan was chosen as the official language
>>60524389
because Balkan countries are still affected by 19th century style nationalism that prevented them to became economically and politically developed like Italy and western Europe.
>>60524497
Obviously, but the center is not that different from the north in those terms.
>>60524389
>Niko
close enough, my actual name is Nikola
>why do people from balkans constantly bash at each other?
due to the tension and wars that just built up over time
>Also, why do you hate us so much?
we actually don't
most people here like Italy and Italian, saying it's beautiful and that sort of shit
most people don't know that much about it except reneissance and Mussolini
however, Slovenes likely hate you because of Trieste, there used to be a slogan like "We'll give our lives, but we won't give Trieste"
>>60524440
Do you actually believe that the south stopped making debts and that the tax theft started in the 90s? You're fucking delusional.
The reason Padania popped up in the 90s was simply due to Bossi cribbing Miglio's ideas as a mean to solidify the alliance between the parties Liga Veneta and Lega Lombarda.
>>60524356
Politically speaking yes. The kingdom of Piemonte reunited it in 3 wars of "independence" and WW1 got us Trentino Alto-Adige and parts of Friuli Venezia Giulia. Rome became capital in 1870 after the "breccia di porta pia".
>>60524435
Most of this is due to intellectuals' decisions in school programms. The headline was Dante's Vulgar and from there other intellectuals added up. Manzoni has been one of the theorists of modern italian, in fact he took inspiration from (high class) tuscanians more than anything else. Despite this, over time dialectal influence has given rise to local changes or nationalisation of certain words. "Minchia", for example used to be said just by sicilians, but now it is used universally.
>>60524623
>>60524623
Are the memes about the looks true ?
Are the people in the north more Germanic/slavic/Celtic looking ?
>>60524535
Like it or not etruscans were the very first real civilization of europe(the greeks civilitazion wasn't even a thing yet), and they were shitskins from anatolia.
>>60524755
they look like french people. you never been to france?
>>60524781
and take a look here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruscan_civilization
>>60524755
Man, you literally live a train trip away. How can you not know this shit?
>>60524755
Do Bavarians look different from the rest of the Germans?
>>60524646
Now I see why slovenians are so rude with us.
What's the deal with your people and albanians? How did it start? Btw thanks foe the answer, I hope the situation there is improving now.
>>60523392
do you ever get out of home? Also you're ignorant about the national identity shit
>>60524497
Rich yes, powerful not really. It would be Benelux tier or thereabout, whereas the peninsula would be Portugal tier.
>>60524890
>anyone believe in the """""Italian naitonal identity""""" besides irrelevant terroni
LMAOOOOO
>>60524898
Again showing your ignorance, the South alone would be Portugal tier, the Center+South would be much better
>>60524781
Vorrei farti notare che gli egizi, sumeri e compagnia bella erano molto più avanzati di noi, ed erano arabi. Gli andava bene perché i terreni (a quei tempi) fertili gli assicuravano sostegno, permettendogli di dedicarsi a cose più avanzate.
tl;dr shitskins had enough food at that time to think about more advanced things.
>>60524864
Nah but I asked for the memes , so is there a significant difference
>>60524859
I was in Rome once but not in whole Italy
>>60524881
kosovo is filled with albanians
>>60523419
BUT-A AT LEAST-A WE HAVE A THE SPICY MEATBALL-A
>>60524946
How would the center pay for the south without the north? The center alone would be better, but with the south you'd be Portugal tier. Also again what, I've made ttwo posts and this is the first answer I get.
>>60525004
They weren't ar*bs you Moroccan subhuman.
>>60525076
It simply won't
>>60525004
>arabi
Vacca eva, tanto vale dire che gli antichi romani erano slavi, siamo là come precisione.
>>60523769
>Dat Ladino and Catalan.
Also lol Albanians.
>>60525121
Then you'll have half the country third world tier, bringing your nationwide average down to Portugal or even worse.
>>60525174
See here >>60524746
They're better than Portugal
>>60525125
è vero, avrei dovuto dire medio-orientali.
>>60525189
Who isn't
>>60523392
And there are people who think a United States of Europe is feasible.
>>60525201
I copti son quelli più vicini all'antico egizio, e son una minoranza.
>>60524755
Are you 12? because you sound pretty naif
Of course in the south of Italy people have darker hair and skin, while in the north you will find many pale skinned.
This is just in general though, because for example Sicily by the 11th century was under the Normans rule, who were basically vikings, so you will find a lot of blondes in Sicily.
On the other side you will find in Milan and Turin many people that descends from southerners who went north for work, especially after WWII.
>>60525189
Yes, with northern money. If they separated the south would lose its debt guarantor and they'd have to default.
>>60525174
>>60525189
you know, portugal isn't that bad. we're the 5th most peaceful country in the world
>>60523769
What about us
Literally different """"""governemt""""" (well, they're developed parliaments), each has a language, slightly different culture, history etc.
>>60525300
Your posters are less autistic
>>60524356
as with most things, technically yes
>>60525294
>portugal isn't that bad
Neither is the south, from a livability pov.
We're talking economy here, you're both very depressed areas with scarce possibilities for development and governments not quite up to the task.
>>60524881
>calling us Balkan
I'd sooner give my life than Trst, it's true, but if I had a choice between giving Trst and never being called Balkan again, I'd take the latter in a heartbeat. There's no greater insult to a Slovene than to be labelled Balkanic.
>>60525294
Why are you so depressed though. Italy as a whole country may be shit, but our suicide and depression rates are very low.
>>60525429
because we're shit economically, like >>60525364
said
we've always been
thus sadness has become a part of our culture
>>60525491
*ruffles your hair affectionately*
>>60525491
>Slavtugal
>>60525392
So you're a Balkan in denial then
>>60525535
i don't think it's as much slav as it's just convergent evolution of "being european but not really rich" that makes portugal the way it is
>>60525584
But you wuz empire n shit
>>60525392
I have nothing against Slovenia, but this Trieste/Trst thing is a meme.
Trieste were never Yugo.
There were an important Slovenian minority, as there were Jews, Germans and Hungarians.
The language of the inhabitants of Trieste is 100% Venetian with a Friulal accents, this since the 16th century.
>>60525606
yes we all know how brasil and africa is amazing
cmon piero, you know just as me that whole empire thing was literally just us trying to get some food home by ourselves instead of via sandniggers
If you live in Europe you cant complain about life unless you're Moldova which is the only one with "medium HDI" which is the worst on the continent
>>60525707
Fuck off, hust because third worlders live like animals doesn't mean I have to content myself with living like I do. There's always space for improvement.
>>60525707
but life is meaningless my friend
>>60525707
And that's why Brits are submissive to what's going on
>>60525797
>but life is meaningless my friend
Than i suggest you go and kill yourself my friend.
>>60525392
You wouldn't have any support from the actual Triestini, do you know that? You'd have to exterminate or deport them. Are you willing to commit (again) such atrocities for a century old nationalistic tantrum?
>>60525644
>Trieste were never Yugo.
What a coincidence, Slovenia was never Yugo either before 1918 (when Italy annexed Trst). But you're clearly not from this part, with your talk of a Hungarian minority and your claim of 100% Triestins speaking Venetian.
Be aware though that this is only a meme. Yes, the Anglos snatching away Trst for no good reason was a giant blow to our emerging economy and national self-esteem, but it's so long ago.
>>60525878
I don't see many Italians complaining about the French stealing Savoy, Nice and Corsica from us though. Those regions were very good as well.
>>60525840
it doesn't matter if i kill myself or not, i'm going to die anyway eventually
all that's good will end
that's the only certainty in life
>>60526004
Our problem is that we have no real cities apart from Ljubljana (which barely had 80k people in 1945) and Maribor (which had even less). That's why we fought so hard for Trieste and Klagenfurt after each WW.
>>60526131
That's hardly our problem. You might as well have fought for Wien and Venice on the same basis.
>>60525878
>>60526131
Top kek, if anyone has a real claim over Trieste other than us it's Austria when they wuz empire. Venetians, Friulians and Austrians built everything there. The Slovenes just watched.
>>60526241
Wien or Graz are good comparisons, since they were centers of Slovenian intellectual life under A-H just like Trieste. Trieste also had the added advantage of not only being surrounded by our land and having Slovenian-speaking suburbs, but also of being the main market for peasants from the Littoral and experiencing considerable industrial immigration from that same countryside. There are villages just a few kilometres outside of the city that never had an Italian name and thus had to be given quasi-Roman names by Mussolini's boys.
>random dialects and even separate languages all over the place
That's actually pretty awesome.
>>60525878
I know very well Trieste because I'm from Venice, and I know that during the Austro-Hungarian times there were people from all over the empire, the Balkans, Turkey, Armenia.
Lot of people from Trieste have their roots in these countries (the Illy family of coffee industries have hungarian origins for example).
Many surnames were "Italianized" during fascism.
I'm sorry for Slovenia, it would have looked good with Trieste, but those were commie Yugo times.
>>60526391
If Wien is a good comparison, you must be admitting your argument is fucking shit.
The suburbs argument is also pretty bad, you could say the same shit about the whole venetian held dalmatian coast, but that didn't make it any more rightfully slav until AH occupied it. Encroachment gives you no rights man, and well you know it.
>>60526491
They're not random at all. Aside from a few very isolated areas, the dialects make out a very progressive continuum.
>>60526568
>it would have looked good with Trieste
If that meant anything, then the Serenissima would look good on its own. Independence when?
>>60526491
I agree. The extreme regional differences in Italy is what makes the country interesting. This is why we must not identify with the supposed national identity that's basically non-existent.
>>60526004
I think it's because the Trieste/Dalmatia question is closer in time and many refugees from Dalmatia are still alive.
The Istria/ Dalmatia question should be arised in this forum.
>>60523392
I guarentee you that we could travel all these regions together and not once would we encounter people who didn't like pasta and gesture with their hands too much.
You speak of internal conflict over minescule issues, which just proves how Italian you all are.
>>60526568
>>60526607
It all boils down to the economy: Trieste was the main market for various produce and crafts from the surrounding Carst, Brkini, Schaurinia, etc., regions. After the delineation of borders, the citizens and ezuli living in the city complained about losing their surrounding fascist province just as much as the peasants complained about losing their market and job opportunities in the city. Rarely has nationalism divided a region in such an unfortunate manner, even here in Europe where it was strongest.
>>60526710
Ethnic and territorial nationalisms can convive you know.
>>60526888
It's clearly not working. Otherwise Lega wouldn't be so popular in the north.
>>60526958
Lega woudln't be popular at all if there weren't economical reasons
>>60525392
You hate what you are. A true balkanlar
>>60526837
I'm not saying it wasn't economically troublesome, I'm just saying it's not a valid argument for claiming it on a nationalistic basis. Might as well have Italy claim the whole litoral region from you instead.
>>60526958
>It's clearly not working.
Who's trying to make it work? Lega is very clearly against territorial nationalism and the italian government has historically been very strongly against ethnic nationalism.
>>60527038
Slovenia is more a sub-Alpine country in my book.
Either way they are doing well among the Balkans.
>>60527010
Lega wouldn't be popular if there were decent localist alternatives. It's literally a question of least bad here.
>>60527038
Slovenia is quite alien compared to the rest of the Balkans though. They're the best country in Eastern Europe. I understand why wouldn't want to be grouped with the massive gypsy shitholes there.
>>60527195
they are northern balkanese, however they are doing well because instead of fighting for what they claim as theirs, they just let it be and shitpost on interwebs about "muh Triest", "muh Kärtnen" etc. They are a weak people in general.
>>60527260
>I understand why wouldn't want to be grouped with the massive gypsy shitholes there.
Italy, you are the gypsiest nation in Europe ffs. Only difference is that you call your gypsies Italians.
>>60527369
WHy are Austrians so autistics? The Germanic genes?
>>60527369
Average master race Aryan from Austria.
>>60527369
Dude you've got twice as many of them as we do, by percentage.
>>60527369
every educated person knows that Italians looks in a variety of ways
>>60527644
>by percentage
we'll call them italians, noone will know the difference.
>>60523392
India is the most artificial country in the world.
>>60523769
We are.
>>60527786
India actually makes sense in an EU kind of way.
Indians as a nation not so much tho, yeah.
>>60527744
What's non-European about this guy, explain. Are you one of those retards who think only people with blue eyes and blonde hair are White? Gypsies have very different facial features compared to that unless they're very heavily mixed with the native population already.
>>60527674
>every educated person knows that Italians looks in a variety of ways
and every educated person knows that the one you are posting are a minority. you are a nation of gypsies, the only difference between you and e.g. romania or bulgaria is that you call your gypsies itallians, else the romani percentage would be 80%
>>60526958
it would if they would integrate better. look at spain
>>60527879
>>60527878
>What's non-European about this guy, explain.
non-european, nothing, gypsies exist long enough in europe to be called europeans, I am saying that Italians are majorily of gypsy or romani heritage. This is a well known fact, I don't know why you got your tits out because of this.
>>60528076
Gypsies look like Indians. That guy doesn't look Indian to me.
>>60527879
you need to chill down mate, in north-east where I live type like this are not common, even then she still looks good
>>60528076
>>60527879
You are a troll or a black/eastern bullied very hard by Austrians.
Gypsies originates from India and were integrated into Europe in recent times.
You are totally ignorant.
>>60528175
>>60528166
>>60528164
>>60528026
>>60527878
>>60527861
>>60527674
>>60527644
>>60527538
italians on suicide watch. I really don't understand why the fuck are you so stressed about. Every fucking nation knows that Italians are majorily of gypsy heritage, ffs it is common to say for an italian, Gyp. Even in american movies, they call gangsters Freddie the Gyp and shit.
>>60528395
It's a Romania/Turk, ge literally looks like an Arab.
>>60523807
Hard working right-wing Eburons in the north, socialist 9th ring of hell, crime and poverty in the south with a multicultural experiment gone horribly wrong as a capital city.
And we stole a bit of Germoney because we wuz oppressed by nahtzees n shiet.
Pic related is the dream of every proud Flemishman who doesn't want to have his hard work taken from him for the Walloon's NEETbux and gibmedats.
>>60528401
Looks like Conchita lmao: >>60527538
>>60528556
forgot to include pic related
>>60528401
John Galliano is Spanish-British
please stop trolling
>>60528556
>Flemishman
>We
t. Kwodoglngo Ahmad Chang Rajahat
>>60523769
The Low Countries come close in variety, mostly because, like Italy, they were very populated in the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance. True, it has less dialects, but it's a small area and the languages are much further apart.
I'd say that Germany might also have nearly Italian levels of variety, but less pronounced due to stronger forced nation-building during the second and third empires.
>>60528401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VluxUjVSMW0
Do you hear this? it's the sound of defeat. It deafens you, doesn't it?
>>60528672
Most Amhads and Kwodoglngos in Belgium actually speak French in favor of Dutch/Flemish, mostly because Brussels markets Belgium as a Francophone country, which attracts French-speaking Africans/Maghrebis.
>>60528672
>t. insecure German
t. Francis, a REAL flemishman
>>60528843
it sounds like a march of the pedophiles, with gypsy trompets in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWqvjDX1R6o
listen to this, this is the sound of true culture
>no one in /int/ understands that it's all just an interest of big wealthy powers to make more money
Has been, always will be, although I have to say, what OP wrote is really interesting! A real eye opener...
>>60528947
Belgium is the country of Lucky Luke and The Smurfs (we call them I Puffi)
>>60529089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRvDGd02mA
Step it up.
>>60523392
A bunch of people yelling at each other about the right way to prepare pasta in Italian sounds the same to outsiders.
Trst a shit
Görz is where it's at
>>60525287
Normans were far from being Vikings
>>60529089
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F4G5H_TTvU
>>60529352
Gorica was actually founded by us. It's a bit small though. It could be something together with Nova Gorica, but that will never be.
>>60529105
You are wise about financial matters indeed, merchant.
>>60529350
There's literally no discussion about the right way to cook pasta between italians.
There's literally now way to cook it wrong if you are italian
>>60523769
The Island of the Sardinia is CATALAN CLAY.
>>60529435
They descended from Scandinavians though
>>60529717
They highly mixed with French locals, they also adopted French customs and language.
>>60529680
You all have to try their "special cheese" if you want it
>>60529435
Normans were Scandinavians even if they chose to speak French. The Lombards and Visigoths discarded their language too, but they were still not Romance people.
I've read that an academy was founded in Rouen early in William the Conqueror's reign with the goal of preserving the Old Norse (or Danish, as it was then called) language among the Normans.
>>60523392
it's like that everywhere but you guys make a the biga deal about it.
>>60523392
>my """""country""""" is only 155 years old
Not check'd for Spain
>there's no unified culture or national identity. It varies wildly from region to region and everyone hates each other
Check'd for Spain
>stronger economical and developmental differences than anywhere else in Europe
Check'd for Spain
>random dialects and even separate languages all over the place
Check'd for Spain
>high number of autonomous regions
Check'd for Spain
>separatist movements with significant support from the population
Check'd for Spain
>somehow people still stereotype and generalize all Italians constantly despite all of this
Check'd for Spain
>>60529847
And this university obviously failed because they were still speaking French
>>60529831
Its not to bad, we make something similar with mites.
The difference between drinking cow milk, eating mold in cheese and these animal products is not to big.
>>60527315
calm down conchita and please stop fucking your daughters in your basements, or maybe it's for the best because otherwise rapefugees would fuck them when they would have their sexual emergencies
>>60529908
Spain is great.
>>60529803
Normandy has a very Germanic phenotype compared to the rest of France. If they mixed with the Celts at all then the admixture was negligible.
>>60529908
but spain has worked for more than 500 years now
>>60529205
Don't forget Kuifje! (Tintin)
>Lebanon
created by the French to be a Christian region in the Middle East
>Moldova
Romanians
>Belgium
>>60529939
Just like Litwins once renounced their language in order to speak a superior jazyk, kurwa. But you were lucky to have peasants from Žmudz to relearn your own language from, diabeł litwinski.
>>60529847
True. And even when they were allegedly "latinized", they didn't completely abandon their languages.
Gothic in Catalonia has left a lot of words in Catalan. Estona (stund), ganivet (knībaz, knifr), ran (like in English "rand")...
And they all keep the original meaning that you still find today in Iceland, Norway... (some Romance Languages closely related to Catalan have some of these words, like in the case of Lombard language, but the meaning is usually very different)
>>60530062
Actually would be nice to have a christian state in the middle east that doesnt get overun by muslims instantly.
Should have mad the borders along christian territory..but would still have been overrun by muslims who ventured to greener pastures.
>>60523392
Why are italian girls so hairy?
>>60530076
>Slovakia
>>60530076
>speaks a dialect of Croatian
>>60530047
>but spain has worked
I stopped reading at this. What do you think we are, germanics?
>>60530156
>>60530172
whatever makes you smile when you hang yourself
>>60530121
>Actually would be nice to have a christian state that doesnt get overun by muslims instantly.
FTFY
>>60530231
the country has been together despite what you say. it was only in the civil war that things were really complicated, but even then even the most leftist people wanted the country to stay together.
>>60529977
>fucking balkan yugos
please tell me how kärtnen is yours, the butthurt amuses me, it makes muh dick hard.
>>60530238
I always smile when I hang myself because it's masturbation time
>>60530316
it must be hard you an Austrian who will never experience a true sexual release because he can't have a daughter because women would rather bump uglies with mohamed
>>60530312
>What is Basque Country and Catalonia
Those two are, along with Scotland (no more I guess), the strongest independentist movements in Europe.
>>60530384
He could buy your whole village with his weekly wage.
>>60530276
Even worse, but I guess what germanic did to rome will now happen to europe with muslims.
They let in arian christian germanic tribes because they were fleeing other tribes...in the end they were not assimilated totally because more and more came and in the end a germanic dude finished the western roman empire off from inside.
Still nice to know we had the best run of all people up till now.
>Germanics does NOT equal german.
>>60530466
It may be too late for Europe, but the New World still has a chance.
>>60530316
>tfw some or most of these people's descendants are now called Heiner, Helmut and Ingeborg and claim that their family/region has been purely Germanic ever since Dietrich von Bern
Remember, kids, the Karawanken are a cultural and genetic barrier between the decent, civilized northmen and the land-hungry Turko-Slavic hordes!
>>60530451
>>60530466
germanics did little to rome compared to huns and others like such. not saying they didn't do anything, but most germanics wanted the wre to stay as a whole
>>60530534
why did i reply to >>60530451
anyway i guess i meant to say even with seperatist movements spain stays together
>>60529577
ppl in nova gorica is fine but i don't really like it's architecture.
who knows tho, the idea of two cities 500 mt from each other is just retarded, also slovenian should be taught in schools to favour integration between the communities
>>60530460
suck some more cock, imagine what he can buy in lithuania, I could probably buy one of your villages
>>60530495
>german humor
>>60530534
Yeah, but they grew strong inside the empire as it weakened and vaned and the romans were no longer able to hold it on their own as they declined into weakness and decadence as a people and had others fight their wars.
When external threats grew to strong and it collapsed, germanic tribes took up the banner.
>>60530528
Yeah, stay as you are.
Sort of violent and uncucked.
>>60530460
have you ever been to slovenia my friend?
their wages are almost on par with ours
>>60530533
>Remember, kids, the Karawanken are a cultural and genetic barrier between the decent, civilized northmen and the land-hungry Turko-Slavic hordes!
Fuckin right, and you turkoslavs can only dream about showing your dirty balkan faces in koroshka.
>>60523392
GABAGOO? OVA HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>he's not Sardo
ay lmaoo patagarrosudeddu
>>60530460
The average Austrian is quite poor actually. Makes sense since they're all Alpine rednecks like the Swiss without a mountain of gold beneath them or big industries like in Northern Italy that pay their workers well.
>>60530604
>the romans were no longer able to hold it on their own as they declined into weakness and decadence as a people
sounds familiar
>>60530683
but my kids will :^)
>>60530671
my friend sells weed in koroška for 2x the price, dumb austrians
Italian Americans > Italians
>>60525071
don't you get tired repeating the same shit over and over again
>>60530708
>Switzerland: 567
>Ukraine: 1
every fucking time
>>60530712
Hey, why not immigrate all these foreigners from the colonies to work in our automobile-manufacturies?
What do you say, Fitzgerald?
Marvellous idea, Timothy!
We womt even have to pay them as much as local workers and they won't unionise as they are just happy to be here!
>And thus started the change in the UK.
Applies to us as well.....
>>60530671
Hej tovariši, pod orožje vsi!
Tujec mora iz naše zemlje!
Čaka Korotan, čaka Štajerska,
Čaka sinje Jadransko morje!
Zdaj v roke puške,
zdaj naj zapoje mitraljez,
sovrag bo čutil,
kako gorak je z nami ples!
Hej tovariši, ni nam žal krvi
Za svobodno Slovenijo!
>>60530836
But most of all France.
>>60530738
>my friend sells weed in koroška
>the main economic branch in slovenia
the fuck do you squirrel people survive from, seeds and berries? we should ask UNESCO to send you some aid packages, I think they still have the adress.
>>60530920
Yeah.
They believed to much into democracy and the spirit of equality.
Its really admirable, but what de Gaulle said about this holds true.
At least you have qts
>>60523392
>his country did not eradicate every shitty dialect in the XIXth century for the greater good
>his country still has any form of independentist movements
Emvarassing pêh
>>60530991
I know the quote you're talking about but I can't quite remember it
>>60530929
>a dope dealer makes morey money than him
the butthurt is real
>>60531033
Its about not allowing all algerians to get to france or being "french".
He said then his home city would be named "two mosques" instead of "two churches".
>>60531023
Ethnic identity is important in the long run, you should know that.
>>60523392
have you tried not being a self hating faggot , hang yourself fratello
>he isn't Ligurian masterrace
>>60531082
Well too late for that I suppose. I guess Europe is serving as a warning to the rest of the West.
>>60531114
terrone
>>60531125
it happened before, it will happen again.
We stand in a line with rome, get big or get crushed...get big and fall.
>>60531138
is terrone the italian version of chicano?
>>60531023
MUH FRANCIEN
Both modern Italians and Greeks are artificial unironically arabic nations just leeching of what was left for them from people living in those regions before them
>>60531422
But Italy was a great contributor to European culture up to the Age of Enlightment, you subhuman slavshit.
>>60523392
hey you are just like my country(200 years old)
we even share the same design
lets feel together
>>60531299
What's wrong with being a unified country ?
>>60531082
What do you mean ?
>>60531512
and shit ever since, i know
>>60531842
The unification was done in a very disastrous way. We're still trying to recover from it. Meanwhile, your subhuman people were never a relevant part of European history besides a few exceptions.
>>60531790
Instead of having angry bretons or whetever you nowhave angry algerians etc.
Oh so multicultural and wise.
>>60531512
>But Italy was a great contributor to European culture up to the Age of Enlightment
>implying it was Italy
why didn't you just say Roman Empire, it is the same shit as turks saying they are Byzantines
Well, there's always China where even languages not related to Chinese are considered "dialects".
>>60523769
In all seriousness, why do you guys still own Suditirol? If it's so blatantly German you would think it would have been referrendum'd back to Austria since WW2
>>60524495
Poland moves around a lot.
>>60532115
They can't legally secede, they would have to do it militarily which is not worth it
