Why hasn't the hug box formerly known as discussed this?
Just imagine if he was black or even worse, Muslim
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/father-defends-stanford-student-son-convicted-of-rape-w208959
Boys will be boys
>>60512655
If he was black hed have been killed once the cops showed up
>>60512655
it's okay, jail sentences shouldn't be over ten years MAXIMUM, with all constitutional rights restored after parole is over. not memeing.
Because /int/ is a bunch of angry autists obsessed with being white.
Even brown people from places like Peru and Colombia bought in to the think tank
>>60512655
Poor choice of words, but I agree that sex crime punishment is the US is cruel and unusual across the board.
>>60512785
>>60512962
>rape an unconscious girl behind a dumpster
>YOURE BEING TOO HARD ON HIM YOURE RUINING HIS LIFE
I fucking hate this place
>>60513035
So what do you think his punishment should have been?
While I certainly agree that feminists tend to oversimplify the complexities of a sexual assault case, it seems pretty obvious that this particular one was prettu aggravating. I mean the guy was convicted, why wasn't he given the mandatory minimum?
>>60513058
A long fucking time. He's a scummy rapist who's a threat to society and deserves to be locked away
>>60513159
you're an idiot if you think that prison and policing should be about subjective shit like """"justice"""" and """""punishment"'""". What the fuck do you think that serves besides you getting to stroke your schadenfreude faggot dick?
>>60513199
>commit a crime
>I say he deserves to be locked away like every other rapist
>NO YOURE RETARDED REEEEE
Fuck off
>>60513262
>deserves
there's that word again.
>>60513282
How is this case different than every other rape case? Why does he only get 6 months when the max is life?
Do the crime do the time pal
Stop defending a rapist you scummy shit
>>60512655
you realize his butthole will grow 3 sizes those six months, right?
>>60513035
why was she unconscious? too much alcohol or he did something to her?
>>60513381
i'm not talking about not being sentenced
i'm talking about prisons not being organized around a vague idea about "punishment" but rather lowering maximum sentences by a large margin and focusing terms on rehabilitation rather than setting the individual up for a life of spiraling failure due to loss of education, rights, sex offender registry (in the US), all contributing to a much larger chance of recidivism.
i know it's tough and that feelings can get in the way, but we have to keep pushing through. alright?
>>60512655
White boi dindu nuffin. Good boi and sheit
>>60512655
Wasn't he also drunk? So the sentence is kind of retarded in a sense. It's the good ol' feminist dilemma whereas if both people are drunk, who raped who?
Also, I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't rape.
I wasn't there but I feel like he was innocent and this is just SJW press trying to lynch him.
>>60513640
This.
The dudes that caught him in the act were Swedish so theyre programmed to go along with whatever a female says.
>>60513603
>>60513640
The girl was legit passed out. You can't consent if you're not conscious.
>>60513661
>The dudes that caught him in the act were Swedish
lmao if that's true.
>>60512655
>Just imagine if he was black
Shed be dead
>or even worse, Muslim
We honestly don't have enough of them to think they'd get away with it like in Europe.
Also, the two Swedes who stopped him would have done nothing
>>60513603
It took place behind a dumpster so I'm going with she was already wasted and went to pee or puke or something.
>>60513676
Not him but that's what I read too.
>>60513672
And you can't consent if you are drunk. Don't you thing maybe she was the one suggesting him to fuck her while they were both drunk?
>>60513745
Right, he was drunk. She probably knew he came from a rich family and planned to set him up for lawsuit money.
>>60513745
>>60513797
Are you guys serious? She was LITERALLY unconscious in an alleyway.
>>60512655
>Just imagine if he was black or even worse, Muslim
Stop trying to make this into a race thing, he got off the hook because the cunt's family is loaded, not because his father and the judge go to the same KKK meetings
>>60513661
She wasn't even conscious so it's not like she influenced them.
>>60513883
It was in regards to the lack of discussion on /int/. Rapefugee and Tyrone articles are pretty common
>>60513838
Maybe she went unconscious AFTER she gave him "consent" while drunk. He was as guilty as her.
>>60513745
She was unconscious! How could you have sex like that?? Sex is for pleasure...
>>60513946If this was right, at the moment that she was unconscious, he should stop it!
It is not right to have sex with someone like that, even if is your wife man...
>>60513946
a normal human being isn't going to finish fucking someone, in public particularly, after they've already passed out even if it was consensual.
>>60514011
HURRR DUURR SHE CAN'T CONSENT BECAUSE SHE WAS DRUNK BUT HE CAN BECAUSE HE IS AN EBIL MAN
>>60513946
>continuing to bang a girl when she passes out
>not stopping
>this isn't rape
I agree that if a girl and you are drunk and you bang this isn't rape, but her passing out is another step...
>>60514055
Bunch of cucks m8. They're so pussywhipped it's retarded. They treat women like children as if they didn't want sex as much as men do. My fucking sides.
>>60514049
He was a normal being that was under the influence of a mind altering substance.
>Implying it isn't normal to rape in some barbaric cultures
>>60514080
Here's your (You), cuck.
>>60514100
>>60514100
I hope someone rape you unconscious one day and them say it: But he let me do this before he pass out!!
>>60514080
Yeah, because he automatically recovers his normal state of mind when she passes out.
This wouldn't happen if the degenerate culture of the west wasn't so obsessed with needing alcohol to have fun.
>>60514113
lol mind altering substance that shit's such a stupid fallback. he could have smoked a bag of meth or krokodil or whatever the fuck it's still rape and you wouldn't expect anyone to look the other way for another kind of drug user
>>60514147
This
>>60514132
proof that anime attracts the weirdest kind of people
>>60514147
I am not actually advocating for this happening or anything, but you don't actually recover all your faculties while the other person is unconscious. Learn from mudslimes about avoiding alcohol.
>>60514147
>Have willing sex while awake
>Pass out and suddenly it becomes rape
Also, why do white people treat being drunk as the same as consuming heroin, extasis, and LSD at the same time?
>sex is consensual while unconscious, in a public place, behind a dumpster.
>SJW if you think otherwise
Holly shit, and I thought we were the rapists, just fuck my shit up senpai.
>>60513672
>Then he asked if he could finger me and I said yes. Most guys don't ask, Can I finger you? Usually there's a natural progression of things, unfolding consensually, now a Q and A. But apparently I granted full permission. He's in the clear.
>go on /pol/
>they truly believe it's a massive conspiracy and the witnesses and forensic labs and hospitals are all lying and trying to keep the white man down
>>60513035
>Put your dick in a girl(big deal) who dosen't remember it
>We should take ten years of your life and ruin it completely
One at most. You people are literally insane. Rape is no worse than getting your ass kicked or any other kind of assault.
>>60514331
>Then he asked if he could finger me and I said yes. Most guys don't ask, Can I finger you? Usually there's a natural progression of things, unfolding consensually, now a Q and A. But apparently I granted full permission. He's in the clear.
>>60514336
it is literally the easiest thing in the world not to rape someone, why the fuck should anybody feel sympathy for them.
>>60514296
HURR DURR WOMEN DINDU NUFFIN
>>60514331
Sauce? They are actually not doing so form what I read.
>>60514331
>This story would have made headlines if he was of any other race
>>60514378
Because he didn't rape anyone and this is yet another case of a bitch ruining a mans life?
>>60514301
>>60514349
She gave consent for fingering, the witnesses said he was thrusting, the rape kit said there was forced vaginal penetration and the hospital said there were injuries.
>>60514383
>>>/pol/76452913/
I couldn't get past the first ~100 posts, so maybe it got better.
>>60514378
Rape= consent + not consent
(people that can't give consent) x 2 = not rape
*Notice that women and male don't have different variables in the equation.
>>60514378
Because I'm capable of sympathy and not on a witch hunt so I can still see objectively. If he kicked her ass and she woke up in hospital with a broken jaw, leg, damaged eye and bed ridden for a month he would of got a much lighter sentence even though that is way worse objectively than getting a dick inside you for 10 minutes when she can't even remember it.
>>60514439
He got 6 MONTHS. Are you for real?
>>60514433
>>60514463
Canada can't into math
>>60514349
>tfw feel like a 16 year old again every time I have sex now
>have to ask, "i-is it okay for me to stick it in?" "h-here I go!"
>otherwise get charged with rape if chick regrets it afterward
This shit is the basis for the argument that porn addiction is good for you.
>>60514439
>DUDE RAPE ISNT EVEN A BIG DEAL MAN
>>60514481
Are you that faggot from the thread on /news/?
>>60514439
the idea of comparing it to assault or something is pretty stupid. it doesn't really matter if the physical consequences don't outlast broken bones, it's still a traumatizing thing and given how easily it's all avoided if you actually give a shit about people, motherfuckers like this dude deserve all they get. this bent dick affluenza fuccboi can rot
>>60512655
There are way worse fates than death.
If criminals get killed, we won't have to waste money on prisons!
EVERYBODY WINS!
>>60514463
And?
>>60514481
>DUDE IF I GREEN TEXT AND SAY DUDE IT TRIVIALIZES HIS POINT
It's comparatively not at all. It's only taken so seriously because we're a society of white knights.
>>60514433
nobody gives a shit about the man's "consent" if he's raping someone there's literally no logic in what you've put down there.
>>60514527
If you kick someone's shit in there's no way you're getting 6 months.
>It's comparatively not at all
You're right. Everything that isn't murder should go unpunished since hey, at least it's not murder! Some Somalian refugee stabbed you and stole your clothes? Why would you charge him, it's not like he killed you!
>>60514508
But he won't rot, and thanks god because he didn't do anything wrong other than drinking a lot.
>>60514508
It is objectively worse. Getting a sever beating is far more traumatizing. The damage could even be permanent or lead to death. It's literally the Modus Operandi for torturers to beat you into submission rather than sodomize you. You can't talk about pretending to care about the plight of people when you have non for this kid. Then again you use words like "fuccboi" so I already know who I'm talking too.
>>60514558
*She doesn't have any STD to my knowledge
*She isn't pregnant but if it was the case she could have gotten an abortion that you leftists love so much
*She is as guilty as he is of drinking a lot and not bringing a sober friend with them
And those witnesses that watched them get out of the party while they were drunk couldn't have stopped them, but I guess we live in a it's not my business society and messing with somebody is a no-no.
>>60514605
This is a troll pic you autist.
>>60514558
>If you kick someone's shit in there's no way you're getting 6 months.
Yeah, you're getting far less.
>You're right. Everything that isn't murder should go unpunished since hey, at least it's not murder! Some Somalian refugee stabbed you and stole your clothes? Why would you charge him, it's not like he killed you!
Nice strawman. I never said any of that. I think there are apt ways of sentencing people, just that the sentencing associated with rape far outweighs the crime in comparison to far worse ones.
>>60514569
yeah dude no woman's ever had the shit kicked out of her during a sexual assault
he's an A class human being simply because he didn't torture her
he deserves a lot of sympathy even though all he had to do was keep his dick in his pants
cool
>>60514617
Also,
*she doesn't have any serious injury.
>>60514605
has civilization gone too far? I mean it's nice not to have to go to war to our neighbors all the time, but I'm pretty sure the muzzies don't hear their women complaining about farting
>>60514622
Kill yourself.
>>60514628
>Then he asked if he could finger me and I said yes. Most guys don't ask, Can I finger you? Usually there's a natural progression of things, unfolding consensually, now a Q and A. But apparently I granted full permission. He's in the clear.
>>60513946
>>60514336
Holy fuck this website is embarrassing
Literally fucking neck yourselves, please, you're a threat to humanity
>>60514680
You are femsplaining to me right now.
>>60514628
>yeah dude no woman's ever had the shit kicked out of her during a sexual assault
This one didn't. She got a dick in her when she was sleeping and it's the worst thing evar like OMG! LYNCH THIS BOY! He still did something bad but
>FUKK HIM LET HIM ROT
He did something wrong but nothing that should merit his life being ruined. He deserves some sympathy as well from you jackals.
>>60514480
You're a fucking virgin, nobody who has sex does this, if you're concerned it might be rape it's almost certainly rape
Nerds and virgins fuck off forever, your existence is a cancer
>>60514670
well gee case closed then, i'm sure glad no one fucked her behind a dumpster while she was unconscious!
>>60514726
You're right, it is cased close and he should sue her and the police department for harassment as she admitted she consented.
>>60514617
That doesn't change what I said. It could be worse. That doesn't mean we shouldn't prosecute.
>>60514626
I looked it up and you're right for California actually which is a bit fucked.
>>60514655
Autist.
>>60514670
I countered that here >>60514421, which you conveniently forgot to respond to.
>>60514707
The reason why there's a controversy is because he got below the minimum sentence allowed. Nobody besides SJWs wants him in for life, but there's no reason he couldn't serve two years.
>>60513035
>They verbally agreed to sex while talking in the bar
>He only fingered her, his dick never got any action
>Girl happens to pass out halfway
The only reason it became a thing is two Swedish dudes who saw them when the girl was passed out. Guarantee if they hadn't been interrupted the girl would have woken up the next day and thought nothing of it.
>>60514769
>>60513035
faggot chinkcuck
>>60514680
Why? I don't drink and I had sex just once in my life anyway. I am trying to be fair to him without being a sheep to the media.
>>60514707
He doesn't need life in prison or anything. I wasn't being that crass. He just needs to face a harsh enough prison sentence that it is clearly demonstrable that the justice system gives a fuck about sexual assault, on university campuses especially.
>>60514784
You're talking to a triggered tumblr whale, you're wasting your energy.
>>60514790
Using buzzwords in an argument is a tumblr move even if you're being ironic.
>>60512655
>raping a random unconcious woman
Why was she even unconsious?
Why isn't this questioned.
>>60514680
Triggered?
>>60514839
See
>>60514784
Before you lose your sanity reading the tumblrinas shitposting.
There was no rape.
>>60513058
After German law this is a 3 years sentence,
He can take those on parole.
Except he was already sentenced once,
>>60514805
I know, only fucking worthless socially retarded nerds hold the opinions you do
If you died nobody would care
>>60514839
Passed out from drinking too much as far as I know, I haven't read the report, but I'm assuming if she was drugged I would've heard about it.
>>60514897
>Passed out from drinking too much
In this case it trully shouldn't be seen as this hard.
>>60514769
With context of what actually happened. It's debatable he got too much time.
>>60514807
>demonstrable that the justice system gives a fuck about sexual assault, on university campuses especially.
Ugh, don't tell me you believe the 1 in 5 meme? Accounting for population size you're telling me women in university/college in North America are being raped more in campus than woman are being raped in the Congo where rape is used as a tool of war?
>>60514925
The reason why it's so controversial is because the judge specifically gave him a sentence lower than the state mandated minimum.
>>60514881
Why do you tumblrinas still try to use shame tactics on 4chan? Surely you realise they don't work, but I suppose you are very stupid people which is why you are tumblrinas in the first place.
>>60514967
But no rape occurred and he shouldn't have gotten anything, that should be the real controversy.
>>60514987
Not a shame tactic, just stating some relevant objective facts.
>>60515020
This will be the third time I've directed you here. >>60514421
>>60513058
>>60514336
>>60514784
>>60514804
>>60513946
>s-she asked for it!
>Rape isn't that big of a deal anyway!
Reminder that these are the same people that would be going bonkers if the guy was black.
>>60515038
Blah blah blah.
>>60515081
>Using a proxy to samefag
But aside from that, you are wrong, /pol/ defends blacks falsely accused right along with whites.
It turns out women are worse than niggers.
>>60514958
>Ugh, don't tell me you believe the 1 in 5 meme? Accounting for population size you're telling me women in university/college in North America are being raped more in campus than woman are being raped in the Congo where rape is used as a tool of war?
That's a lot of presumptions m90.
It's been tumblrized and embellished, but there's a huge nugget of truth to the 'rape culture' shit feminists talk about. Women can't be truly safe in a lot of places, it's pretty fucked up for me to imagine that place being my goddamn university.
>>60515087
Congratulations, you're now officially an SJW.
(And then you'll proceed to wonder why you and your 'movement' aren't taken seriously)
>>60515081
>Egypt the authority on rape
Checks out. Well yeah, being raped by a black animal is far worse. He had the gall too touch a white woman.
ITT
>he dindu nuffin
>he a good boy
>he was goin to school
>>60515060
>>60515149
Not an argument. I'm starting to think you're just a really good troll.
>>60514967
Even I think that your laws are too harsh the Judge has to stick to them.
Will the judge have consequences out of this?
Here was once a case of a Muslim who burnt his daughter to restore his families honour.
The judge sentenced him for homicide (which is like a lower murder here) insteed of charging the full sentence for murder like it were appropriate in this situation, since he was fully aware of the murdering. so the dude got 3 years on parole insteed of the max of 15 years here.
Later the judge was fired and the dude sentenced to the full amount.
>>60515109
Yeah rape cultures exist. In Bangladesh, parts of India, West Africa, and Haiti. Not in your university. Also the whole time I was just shitposting until my last comment.
>>60515119
Ooh, what is my movement exactly? Because I'm just fucking with tourists from tumblr.
I'm really curious.
>>60515164
Not an argument.
>>60515165
>Later the judge was fired and the dude sentenced to the full amount.
Not dissimilar to what will happen here. Judge was an alumni of the same school and everyone's already shouting about judicial bias and calling for his head.
>>60515147
You go sister, hopefully we can put all men in jail for crimes they didn't commit.
That will show daddy for not loving me enough.
>>60515165
He got recalled, although I don't think he's allowed to be re-sentenced due to double jeopardy laws.
>>60515184
90% of you fucks are MRAs
>>60515206
No argument for me to counter.
>>60512655
the hug box formerly known as what?
>>60515249
You can't be resentenced even if the the sentence wasn't according to the law?
I would feel shitted if I were American.
>>60515260
It's tumblr tourists thinking they can turn a board against /pol/, it's prime territory for an Australian to have fun and trigger some cunts.
Their ringleader happens to be a leaf....
>>60515249
>90% of you fucks are MRAs
Le MRA boogeyman. I don't want to be part of some stupid gender group but they are literally right about everything. Feminists are right about things once in a blue moon.
Jesus fucking christ you scumbags are defending this rapist? And accusing everyone who thinks rape is bad of being a "SJW" or "tumblrina" or "feminist"? If he were a Muslim (and lets face it, "looked Muslim", you lot don't know anything about the actual religion) you would bring this up at every opportunity you got.
All you pieces of shit should read this letter from the victim. https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.mbvgzyQ1g#.ojYw1Kxpw
If you read this and think the rapist got a long enough sentence... you are insane.
>>60515270
Yeah if someone is acquitted in America and then admits to doing the crime, even murder they can't be jailed for it because of double jeopardy.
>>60515277
Hey I'm also a leaf and I did some triggering, there is an American tumblrina too
>Some dumb whore gets drunk, fucks some guy, and later regrets it
lol who cares how is this news it happens everyday
Celebrities kill people with cars and never go to prison, women file false rape accusations all the time and there is zero backlash.
Lawlessness for all, I say.
>>60515287
>>60515300
Don't they have stages of courts?
Like if a lower court does a mistake the higher court can revoke it or you can go in revision in a higher court and have a trial on the same crime again.
>>60514881
Look I am only trying to judge men and women the same I don't know why you hate me so much over this. It's not like I advocate rape.
Rich people are inherently scum. We should just take them all to the guillotines.
>>60515287
>If he were a Muslim (and lets face it, "looked Muslim", you lot don't know anything about the actual religion) you would bring this up at every opportunity you got.
And if he were Brown or Muslim, this would have never made the news and you'd never of see his face and even if it ever got leaked, you'd call anyone noticing a pattern a racist.
>>60515278
>but they are literally right about everything.
They are right about some things but they go way too far and instead of just trying to balance the scales they cry about how unfair it is it's not tipped entirely in their favor and about how women are evil for not having sex with unattractive men. It's a damn shame too because there are some issues that need to be addressed that will never be taken seriously thanks to these reverse SJWs.
>>60515310
>>60515314
Read about what actually happened. This is more complex than that.
>>60515338
I'm not 100% on all of the inns and outs, I'm just repeating what was said by Americans during the Knoxx trial.
>>60515350
>more complex than that.
I never said it wasn't complex, I was just pointing out that the justice system dispenses leniency at its own discretion. Who cares if some weenie got a light sentence for rape this one time? This sort of thing happens every day, sometimes to repeat offenders.
>>60515371
Yeah, I can agree with you on that.
>>60515287
>Unironically linking to buzzfeed
You actually are here from tumblr.
>>60512655
I'd probably care more if I didn't hate women. His life is ruined either way, no matter how long or short his jail/prison sentence is.
>>60515345
>And if he were Brown or Muslim, this would have never made the news and you'd never of see his face and even if it ever got leaked, you'd call anyone noticing a pattern a racist.
There was literally a girl in Germany who accused a random Syrian refugee of raping her, it made headlines and caused lots of outrage, and then admitted to making up the story later. Her admitting to making up the story wasn't widely reported on of course, because the media currently has a hate boner for Muslims. If Brock was brown he would have gotten the full 14 years.
>>60515350
>and about how women are evil for not having sex with unattractive men
Not an MRA platform. They understand hypergamy they just want too see their kids and not have to pay alimony out the ass. MGTOW betas are who you're talking about. MRAS are trying to make the scale more balanced because society is objectively gynocentric and their feelings.
>trump is rayciss because he thinks an hispanic judge can get a beef with him
>this guy got away because the guy wasn't a woman or minority
>>60515301
Fair enough, no leafposting. Stick to cuntposting.
>>60515391
>You actually are here from tumblr.
It's a direct statement from the victim hosted by Buzzfeed's website. There is literally no writing from Buzzfeed on there. You are a fucking braindead moron. Can you even read? Does it require effort to drag your knucles across the keyboard? Jesus christ dude
>>60515403
There seems to be a lot of overlap between the two.
>>60512676
fpbp
>>60515403
By actually debating with this person you are validating their stance and hatred of men.
What you should be doing is mocking them completely.
Hell, if this guy was raped by a man would any of you lot be defending it? Imagine if you were unconscious and a guy came up and started fucking take your clothes off and sticking their dick into you while thrusting you into the pavement? Would you guys like that to happen to you?
>>60515403
>claim not to be an MRA
>start throwing out acronyms and made up social science terms like a bipandle pixiekin Tumblring on the rag.
I fucking hate all of you so much.
Rape is literally a meme crime nowadays
The littlest fucking thing now constitutes rape. I'm pretty sure eye rape is going to become an actual thing within the next five or so years. I'm sick of seeing this assholes face and hearing about this fucking case.
>>60515399
Yeah, because der spiegel and every major news source other than fox hates muslims so much.
>>60515472
This guy should have gotten 5 years in jail AT LEAST. He is a scumbag.
>>60515467
Well he never put his dick in the girl, he only fingered her.
So it's more like you get super drunk and a dude gives you a handy behind a bar.
>>60515422
Someone who isn't a fresh off the boat tumblrina would use a pastebin, you silly blubbering vagina.
>>60515467
If they were both drunk then yes.
>>60515467
But you have to have sympathy for the man doing the raping, he'll be so tired from all that thrusting plus he'll have to spend his valuable time defending himself in court
>>60515467
If I said a guy could fuck me I would keep at my word, that's where men and women differ my engorged friend.
>>60515474
Literally every bestselling newspaper has led a front cover story with false information about Muslims. Every single one... CNN, Fox, The Sun, The Daily Mail, etc. Even the "liberal" ones are starting to do this shit now. White guy commits rape? Oh it's no big deal! Muslim says something mean on Twitter? (Literally a top news story reported by the BBC the other day.) THE MUSLAMICS ARE TAKING OVER GET DEM OUT OF ER COUNTRY!!! It's fucking stupid.
>>60515510
He DID put his dick in the girl though.
>mfw libcucks here would be okay with a tranny with fuld mind capabilities that pass not telling a man she was born a male.
>>60515399
If Brock was brown we'd never have heard his name. You'd be defending him using this German example too. Hilarious the extent of this hystery because where the fuck are you on all the rapes happening by brown people in Europe who the authorities won't name and won't report on? Many other cities were hit by gangs sexually assaulting women all through Europe the infamous cologne night all by North Africans and middle easterners. The authorities in the Netherlands has programs for teaching Nigerians not too rape, the actual government has come to the conclusion that too many rapes have happened and these people aren't assimilating so they need programs. Where was the media on that? Oh? Only nuanced reports quickly brushed under the table? Odd.
>>60515287
Literally anyone could make that up.
>>60515472
STOP RAPING ME WITH YOUR EYES, YOU SHITLORD!
>>60515548
>girl says I can have sex with her
>see her walking down the street a week later and decide I want my sex then
That's not how it works.
>>60515471
I'm not an MRA for reasons already states. I'm not in any gendered group or a activist because that's lame. I'm just informed and they are actually right.
>>60515536
Yeah I'd probably give him a cheeky blowie for his effort.
>>60515583
Yes that isn't how it works, I don't have a clue what you are trying to prove with that big pile of shit.
>>60515553
Sauce? What I see in the news is how boring the west is and how great Arabs and Africans are 90% of the time. Besides, the media lies about every group.
>>60515510
He did though. Did you read the victim's story? https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.mbvgzyQ1g#.ojYw1Kxpw
She literally had dirt in her vagina left over from the penetration.
>>60515519
I forgot everyone on this site was so stupid they can't even read anything critically unless it's spoonfed to them the right way, even then it's like a 10% chance they'll get it.
>>60515536
lol
>>60515548
there was no consent in this case, and there is no case in my hypothetical. even if you take this asshole's word for it, that she "fell over" and knocked her self out and he continued fucking her do you think that's normal behavior? Even if you did consent to sex with a guy, if you fell over and went unconscious you would expect them to help you out and not keep sticking their dick in you right?
>>60515616
I'm sure he'll be hungry afterwards so you'd better take him out for a cheeky nando's as well
>>60515614
This is me too. I'm not part of any group, I just call out cunts where ever they may be and in this thread they are the things that go shitlord in the night.
>>60512655
>getting jailed for an act of love
>>60515658
>Did you read the victim's story? https://www.buzzfeed.com/katiejmbaker/heres-the-powerful-letter-the-stanford-victim-read-to-her-ra?utm_term=.mbvgzyQ1g#.ojYw1Kxpw
>She literally had dirt in her vagina left over from the penetration
So many inconsistencies, so little time.
>>60515658
Nobody give this clickbait hits.
>>60515688
Wasn't this confirmed by the hospital?
>>60515614
>I'm just informed and they are actually right.
So you aren't one. You just agree with them, adopt their terminology, and defend their ideology on the internet?
>>60515663
Second date, I'm not some sort of slut.
>>60515641
>Sauce? What I see in the news is how boring the west is and how great Arabs and Africans are 90% of the time. Besides, the media lies about every group.
I don't know what Puerto Rican news media is like, but for example the Daily Mail / the Sun (best selling newspapers in the UK) did a front page, all caps headline reading 1 IN 5 MUSLIMS SUPPORT ISIS. The source said 1 in 5 Muslims had sympathy for Syrians in general, not sympathy for ISIS, and when non-Muslims were asked the same question it was 1 in 4 non-Muslims who said they had sympathy for Syrians. Of course, when these papers admitted they were intentionally being misleading that didn't make the headlines did it?
The only papers that aren't pushing racist propaganda are smaller liberal papers that are popular with bougie soccer moms that miss the mark anyway.
>>60515703
They found no pre-cum. They found "injuries" and proof of penetration. He was fingering her remember? He just went HAM.
>>60515658
He puts his dick on her while drunk. Still not rape.
>>60515658
>even if you take this asshole's word for it,
Well, that tells us all about your personal bias. Aww did daddy not love you enough, or maybe too much growing up?
>>60515689
>Don't read the victim's story! You might be tricked into thinking rape is a bad idea!
>>60515728
Aren't they famous for not being credible?
>>60515728
I think countless Pew polls are more reliable about islam than some twat on the internet.
>>60515732
>He puts his dick on her while drunk.
>Still not rape.
Uhh... do you not what rape is? Wtf.
>>60515734
Wow, what a terrible bias. Thinking rapists are assholes. Did you know I don't like murderers either? I'm basically a monster, I know.
>>60515749
It's real because it's a woman,right?
>>60515706
Yeah, I know what they are talking about? People always telling me too educate myself, well I did? I defend reason when i'm in a discussion, not specifically their platforms. They just happen too be right and bring in facts with measurable numbers and PEW research data that is the absolute gold standard. I've yet too see anything not full of holes from their opposition.
>>60515785
Yeah. I even made an equation about it.
>>60515760
>Aren't they famous for not being credible?
Yes, but they are the best selling papers by a gigantic margin which is what I'm talking about here. The majority of the population doesn't read a news source known as "credible" they read what they want to hear.
>>60515749
Not that I should even give you the time of day, especially after your bias is clear for all to see, but if you are going to be on 4chan you are going to do things the 4chan way.
Put it in a pastebin and then ask people to view it, otherwise you can fuck off back to the shithole you congealed in.
>>60515495
He really shouldn't have gotten jail time at all if all that happened was he continued fingering a girl while she was passed out.
Hopefully she got pregnant
We need soldiers to repel the Mexican invasion
>>60513463
get raped faggot
How did she recount her experience when she was an inebriated wreck and "unconscious" ? Really makes you think.
>>60515785
>He is evil because she said so
>she is telling the truth because he is evil
You spin me right round baby right round.
>>60515789
>It's real because it's a woman,right?
No, it's real because the hospital and various medical professionals verified it, there were two credible witnesses who caught the rapist in the act and stopped him, the rapist gave an unreliable and unbelievable story that still amounts to illegal behavior, and he was unanimously found guilty in a trial by everyone who had seen the evidence. His guilt is not up for debate. The sentence, given by the judge, was too short, which is what the debate is about.
>>60515790
Yeah real nice going there. You picked a side . Congratulations, you qualify for the label of MRA. A participation award for the worlds most retarded competition.
>>60515863
>it's real because the hospital and various medical professionals verified it
No semen or pre-cum, no penetration therefore it automatically wasn't rape.
>there were two credible witnesses who caught the rapist in the act
They were Swedes, looking at a woman is rape to them.
> the innocent man gave an unreliable and unbelievable story
What, like she did?
So the innocent man should walk free and I pray that his wealthy family can hire the biggest jew to figuratively rape this evil woman and Swedecucks in court.
Meh, who gives a shit. I certainly don't. He did his time. I though libtards were about "MUH OVERCROWEDED PRISONS" make up your fucking mind. The guy did his time.
>>60515810
>Put it in a pastebin and then ask people to view it, otherwise you can fuck off back to the shithole you congealed in.
Except the pastebin wouldn't be verified by the actual victim, the author of the writing, and therefore wouldn't be nearly as credible. I shouldn't have to assume everyone is a fucking braindead moron and explain this basic ass shit.
>>60515819
That's not what happened, even according to his own made-up-after-the-fact story. There were even two witnesses who saw him in the act.
>>60515847
There were two witnesses, her boyfriend recieved a phonecall she made during the assault, and medical professionals verified what happened.
>>60515853
I am basing this on the evidence available, not my feelings. If you would rather defend the rapist just because he's a man and you think men are infallible, go for it, but all the evidence suggests he's guilty. When all the evidence was presented in court, literally everyone agreed he was guilty. The debate is over the sentence length, not over if he was guilty. There were witnesses and no shortage of evidence.
>>60515863
Was he capable of consent while drunk?
If the answer is no then he was as guilty as she was. Unless you think one non-consent is more valuable than the other.
>>60515898
Yeah I picked what made sense. I'm still not in a group or an activist. This is not a sum total game you crazy tumblerina. I've liked what I've heard from some feminists. Just it's getting rarer and rarer because they keep getting blown the fuck out and I change my position to align with facts.
>>60515898
And this is why people hate you tumblrinas, you vile hatemongers.
>>60515944
>Except the pastebin wouldn't be verified by the actual victim
What in the ever loving fuck are you even going on about at this point? 10/10 shitposter.
>>60515946
You are dealing with a landwhale with a religious fanatic level of hatred for men.
Nothing you can say will change her warped mind so you are wasting your time.
>>60515934
>No semen or pre-cum, no penetration therefore it automatically wasn't rape.
The witnesses saw penetration, he admitted to penetration himself, and there was dirt and abrasions in her vagina.
>They were Swedes, looking at a woman is rape to them.
What? This is just stupid.
>What, like she did?
He's not innocent and there is literally no evidence for his innocence. I call his story unreliable because he has changed it multiple times. I call the victim's story reliable because the witnesses, her boyfriend, her sister, and medical professionals were able to verify aspects of it and it hasn't changed at all since the day it happened, which is the definition of reliable and consistent.
>>60515974
Don't know what that autists deal is.
https://www.sccgov.org/sites/da/newsroom/newsreleases/Documents/B-Turner%20VIS.pdf
Unless it's something different.
>>60515863
>his guilt is not up for debate. Actually it is because we live in a system were people have chances to prove their innocence after a veredict. And the system is filled with asshole agents that often lie and get away with it.
>>60515994
You support her because she is a woman, simple as that. You have a deep seated hatred of men because of father issues.
>>60516012
Fuck it green texted everything.
>>60515974
>What in the ever loving fuck are you even going on about at this point? 10/10 shitposter.
Generally when you read something that you are debating the authenticity of, you want to verify who the author is. This is common sense.
>>60515946
>Was he capable of consent while drunk?
>If the answer is no then he was as guilty as she was. Unless you think one non-consent is more valuable than the other.
His own story was that he was lucid and he was looking to fuck a girl and found her. He claims she fell down and became unconscious and that he continued to fuck her while she was unconscious instead of helping her up. There is no version of the story, even the accused rapist, in which there is a question of him not giving consent or not being capable of it. From all "sides" of the story including his own, he was the perpetuator of this act.
>>60515990
An ad hominem and a straw man. Great argument, you really proved you thinking skills.
>>60515948
You're walking, quaking and swimming like a duck, bud. You don't get to pick and chose your labels.
>>60515958
I'm not a tumblrina. I just don't care about any of this at all and enjoy baiting autistic man children with high opinions of themselves regardless of their political alliance.
>>60515287
If I get the situation correctly then it simply can't be considered rape by russian legislation.
By definition described in article 131 of russian criminal code rape that is, a sexual intercourse with the use of violence or of a threat thereof, with respect to the victim or to other persons or with the use of a helpless state of the victim
It's just not rape, that's all. And we don't have something articles suited for thus situation, so he will be let free to go.
>>60512655
It's because /pol/acks actually don't care about women and rape issues, they are using it as a political tools against Muzzies.
Same things with fags being hanged. They would happily doing it themselves.
>>60516072
Want to play Pokemon? I have Mankey.
>>60516074
>with the use of a helpless state of the victim
It is a rape then.
>>60516076
Nah, not since Milo entered the scene, It's why I don't mind gays any more.
>>60516034
Interesting psychoanalysis, but if she were a man I would still support her because the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of her case. I base my assessment off of facts and not feelings and I find it appalling when men are raped and when men are accused of rape falsely (such as Brian Banks, who was wrongfully put in prison for 5 years for rape which I strongly disagree with).
>>60516012
That's actually not how our system works (although it might be different in Puerto Rico, idk) and I'm not talking about "lying agents" (made up boogeyman here based on literally nothing, but whatever) I'm talking about the presentation of the evidence and the assessment by the jury.
>>60516072
>You agree with things they say and acknowledge facts so that makes you an activist and a member of a group
Maybe where you're from. Feminist activists are the laziest people ever.
>>60516096
Milo is a self-hating prick. Just because he is ok with being called "fag" doesn't mean everyone accept it.
>>60516074
>By definition described in article 131 of russian criminal code rape that is, a sexual intercourse with the use of violence or of a threat thereof, with respect to the victim or to other persons or with the use of a helpless state of the victim
If you had read any of the evidence, you would know that this is literally what happened. It falls under the Russian definition of rape pretty clearly actually.
>>60516076
This is the truth. They do not give a single solitary shit about rape victims and are just as much of a scumbag as any of the people who were complicit in the Cologne assaults they love going on about.
>>60516144
As a black man, people who get triggered by the word nigger as sub-humans in my eyes so the same logic applies with gays.
>>60516114
>Feminist activists are the laziest people ever.
Name one person/activist who has accomplished a major advancement towards improving the lives of women who has said "I disagree with feminism" or something similar. I'll wait.
>>60516152
I also have Dugong and Moltress.
>>60516076
Funnily enough in the main stream everything is reversed. They condemn this kid, ignore the muslims and defend them. Also wide acceptance for homosexuality until those homosexuals stop pretending too be their pet. You people are just as hypocritical if not more. That's why /pol/ exists.
He is a good boy and did not do anything.
>>60516152
Agreed, people who want evidence for a rape conviction are no different to mudshits committing mass rape of women.
You tumblrinas crack me up.
>>60516158
t. Uncle Ruckus
I bet you get offended on behalf of white people, use the word cuck, and have become sincerely worried about mass immigration to fit in with your peers
>>60516107
>juries and judges are infallible
>>60516114
>I believe in a society in which all property is publicly owned but I am NOT a communist. I just agree with them and support their ideology on the internet
>>60516206
You sure told him.
>>60516205
>Agreed, people who want evidence for a rape conviction are no different to mudshits committing mass rape of women.
There is clear evidence of rape in this case and it has been given in this thread and not a single one of you has read or responded to it. And I am saying people who are complicit in defending rapists are no different from other people who are complicit in defending rapists. You can recognize the latter it seems like, but you seem incapable of fathoming that anyone who is white would ever do anything bad. Learn to read moron.
>>60516107
>he trust prosecutors
>>60516206
Every day I praise the good white God.
Protip: racial politics of America don't apply to the rest of the world and you have a very American attitude about that.
Nigga, get yo black ass outta here.
>>60516158
I respectfully disagree. And even if you're ok with nigger, doesn't mean you can use it on people who aren't. It's called respect.
Some people have tried to kill themselves because of homophobia (1st cause of suicide amongst young people in France), so using "fag" on them is a shitty behaviour to me.
Also, Milo is against gay marriage using the same arguments than conservatives uses, who are borderline homophobic.
Finally he's a insufferable drama queen being persuaded he's "smart" and "provocative" because he embraces the alt-right memes. Makes me laugh that he was the icon of GamerGate while knowing almost nothing about vidya, and the tech editor of Breitbart knowing nothing about tech.
>>60516176
>Name one person/activist who has accomplished a major advancement towards improving the lives of women who has said "I disagree with feminism" or something similar. I'll wait.
99.9999 percent of the people who've made civilization? non-feminists (the unsung heroes in parliament) gave women the right too vote. Politically neutral doctors gave them the pill. Man gave them civilization too protect them from other men. I don't think the man who invented pockets was a feminist either, and that person needs more recognition. Are you really going to use the meme Feminism= equality and nothing would have gotten done without it?
>>60516212
They are not, and I have already expressed strong disagreement with the judge specifically, but I would consider a large group of differing people who have been presented with the same evidence to be considerably less fallible than a single guy who has changed his story multiple times and cannot verify it with a single piece of evidence from another person. Literally the only person who vouched for him was his dad, who agreed his son probably did do the rape, but thought the sentence should be shorter instead of longer like everyone else.
>>60516231
When you provide something worse reading, I shall read it. But make sure it is in the form of a pastebin, good boy.
>>60516196
Na. You're making a strawman.
I hate political and extremist Islam with a passion and wants to see Cologne rapists jailed. I find it deplorable that German authorities handle the situation so poorly. But I have no problem with Islam or Muslims in itself.
As for gays, it is feminism that has given them rights. While nowadays feminists are going a bit overboard, doesn't mean they "hate gays" at all, far from it.
>>60516234
More than someone who has been witnessed by multiple people committing rape and has changed his story multiple times and has not been able to provide a single piece of evidence verifying any version of his story.
>>60516249
I'm not actually an American native and I have lived in the UK fwiw
>>60516269
>99.9999 percent of the people who've made civilization? non-feminists (the unsung heroes in parliament) gave women the right too vote. Politically neutral doctors gave them the pill. Man gave them civilization too protect them from other men. I don't think the man who invented pockets was a feminist either, and that person needs more recognition. Are you really going to use the meme Feminism= equality and nothing would have gotten done without it?
I'm not talking about changes that affected everybody like pockets dumbass, I mean changes for the advancement of women. Changes in legislature regarding marital rape, the passage of equal voting rights (NOT the suffragettes, but people who believed in actually voting rights for all women), and attitudes regarding domestic abuse. The majority of the women who helped address these issues have called themselves feminists whether you like it or not.
>>60516214
>People who agree with some facets of communism who are not politically active are still communists
Subtle difference between following whole sale a whole political ideology and affiliated political party and acknowledging certain statistics backed up by science by a tiny group of activists.
>>60516265
Really, but you are very proggresive France. Besides, suicide isn't a bad thing.
>>60516265
You don't have to respect me, this is 4chan, call me a nigger who likes chikin. Respect is earnt and certainly is not expected on this website.
People who are injured by words are weak.
Marriage is a shitty thing straight or gay and everyone should be against it, a few cases of gay JUST and gays won't want to get married either.
Milo is a bit of a drama queen I will give you that.
Milo was anti-GamerGate until he found out what it was about. People can change their opinion based on the available facts.
>>60516287
>When you provide something worse reading, I shall read it. But make sure it is in the form of a pastebin, good boy.
Why? Do your own work dumbass. If it's about giving buzzfeed clicks I assume you are smart enough to use archive.org or a google cache.
>>60516319
^ this. finally a smart person up in this thread
>>60516341
Thanks
>>60516349
I just hate being rude to people, online or IRL.
Call me a cuck or weak if you want.
>>60516319
>As for gays, it is feminism that has given them rights
>>60516376
Nobody on this website will be offended by anything you have to say. Are you new here or something?
I will insult you when you give me reason to.
>>60516349
>You don't have to respect me, this is 4chan, call me a nigger who likes chikin. Respect is earnt and certainly is not expected on this website.
If you don't also call white people on this site cumskins or snowbeasts, you are a scumbag
