>America is too spread out for passenger rail
>>60487665
I'm not an expert in Australia but that plan looks like hella waste of budget
>>60487665
>I don't know what Amtrak is
>>60487739
>hella waste of budget
Why are most Australian cities located in the south-east
>>60487831
You fuckin put us there cunt
>>60487831
Probably the part with the most rains
>>60487665
>ararat
seems like you guys want some funo-something
>>60487831
It's the places that aren't burning hellholes
>>60487971
I dunno what you're on about, but there's a prison there where we lock up our pedos https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopkins_Correctional_Centre_(Ararat)
>>60487765
I know what it is, shit
>>60487665
What is life in Maria like? Being so far from anything must be boring.
>>60487765
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_speed_limits_in_the_United_States
>Passenger trains are limited to 59 mph
>>60488047
Mont Ararat in Turkey, where Noah's Ark is supposed to have ended up
>>60488052
Correct
>>60488082
What about the Acela?
>>60487817
Wtf? I didn't know Puerto Rico is American.
>>60488047
mount ararat, a sacred mountain for armenians.
>>60488075
I'd imagine it's either a tourism joint or hell
>>60487665
we have passenger rail just not high-speed passenger rail
>>60487953
>tfw it rained for 2 days straight in sydney and killed 4 people last week
>>60488082
Are you arguing for high speed railways between majors cities? It's a complete waste of tax payer money that would only benefit a select upper class percentage of the population, it is not practical and would only service the elite of American society. Not at all a good idea but I can see why people find it attractive
>>60487665
Adelaide to Darwin would be so cool
>>60488127
>What about the Acela?
>http://articles.philly.com/2013-12-09/news/44946865_1_amtrak-and-california-northeast-corridor-acela-express-trains
>On the 319-mile trip between Philadelphia and Boston, Acela averages about 64 miles per hour.
>>60488147
>polish education
>>60488147
Puerto Rico was a Spanish colony, it gained independence from Spain, became a Spanish colony again, was given independence from Spain again, and then became a US territory.
Literally no one cares about Puerto Rico. It may as well not even exist.
>>60488234
it's pretty good, family did it when I was a kid but I spent most of it playing my gameboy
>>60488127
150 mph in a small stretch in New England but for the rest it tops out at 135
>>60488298
It's literally the first I've ever seen map of the US where's Puerto Rico included.
If I wanted to get to Portland from LA this Saturday I could choose either:
A. $123 for a 4 hour flight
B. $115 for a 30 hour train ride
Which option should I take?
>>60488226
>It's a complete waste of tax payer money
>>60488395
we already have metro systems for major cities such as NYC, Boston, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.
>>60488226
>Trains are a complete waste of tax payer money
>>60488383
well, train obviously, it won't fall down
>>60488378
It's been an American territory since 1952. It is generally considered its own country, but it is a US territory. It doesn't have its own government or currency. The only thing that separates from the rest of the USA is they speak Spanish and are an island.
They should be given statehood desu. They're practically part of the USA.
>>60488306
>I spent most of it playing my gameboy
Yeah travelling as a kid sucks.
>>60488445
There is already subway systems in major cities and guess what? THERE IS STILL TRAFFIC IN THE CITIES.
getting high-speed rail will not and does not relieve traffic jams.
>>60487831
The wildlife won't allow the to expand.
>>60488234
Seems like a long trip, like going from Paris to Moscow maybe?
>>60487831
>>60487870
>>60488226
>It's a complete waste of tax payer money
>Not at all a good idea
>>60488436
>>60488395
I live in NYC and the subway lines I take are overcrowded and constantly delayed. There is usually some crazy person rambling insane shit or a homeless person being disgusting. Public transportation sucks when the population density is too high.
>>60488581
the Interstate system was an amazing idea that benefitted everyone and was totally fucking worth it and it only cost so much because we are the size of a continent
>>60488633
I live in Westchester and I use the Metro North often, its all shit and getting high-speed rails won't change that. The only way our public transport would suck less is if we severely lowered population density
>>60487831
>>60487870
noice
>>60488477
>They should be given statehood desu
i don't want them as a state
Puerto ricans are hideous and are mostly niggers
Puerto rico is a defunct place and is crippled by debt
they like 3 times dumber, poorer, and useless as Mississippi, our poorest state. the amount of money that would have to be spent on that shitty island to bring it up to habitable standards is obscene.
i'd rather we just give up the terrorist and watch as that garbage dumb of an island sinks back into the water
>>60487665
Man I wish Australia was populated by all Europeans, far away from shitskins
>>60488445
Uh, that's not what I said Mr.strawman. High speed rail between major cities is a waste of money for 95 percent of the population though, its a type of interest group politics where the money is taken from a larger group of society only to benefit a smaller group.
High speed rail also wouldn't solve the traffic problem as only a small upper class group would be able to afford it or even have a need to use it.
You're only attracted to the novelty of the idea
>>60488497
>getting high-speed rail will not and does not relieve traffic jams.
Welp, better shut down all the high speed rail then, surely it won't affect traffic ;)
>>60488695
*give up the territory
>>60488699
I-it kind of is
>>60488477
no they should not be given statehood, until they can fix their shit they should stay as is
>>60488682
>live in Westchester and I use the Metro North often, its all shit and getting high-speed rails won't change that.
>faster trains won't make train service faster
American education in action
>>60488306
how long did it take
>>60488729
we have no high speed rail
getting high speed rail won't change traffic in cities because high speed rail is between cities. Most traffic jams I encounter (I live near NYC) are either due to in-city congestion which cannot be solved with high-speed rails or on the highways which happen due to people hitting shit and rubbernecking.
>>60488783
You're an American and by shit I mean overcrowded and dirty.
The Metro North wouldn't get high speed rail because high speed rail is between cities not between New Rochelle and GCT.
It also would not relieve traffic jams in the city.
>>60487739
Not really, everywhere that has people is covered by the rail system. That massive chunk of WA and the middle of the country have like 50,000 people tops. That said, pls come to our country and spend your delicious tourist shekels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ4NuX0qWuY
>>60488723
>High speed rail between major cities is a waste of money
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela_Express
>Ridership: 3,343,143
>3.3 million more cars on I-95 is a good thing
>>60488531
something like that I think. As a euro, can't imagine travelling that much and still being in your own country
>>60488436
>>60488445
its not a discussion about urban trains, retards
>>60488783
This is the most ironic post I've seen all day considering you obviously don't even understand how high speed rail is used
>>60488863
>It also would not relieve traffic jams in the city.
Welp you heard the American Who Knows Everything, shut down all the rails surely this will solve our traffic jams
>>60488909
he is suggesting high-speed rail would solve traffic jams in and out of cities which in the context of America it would not at all.
>>60488682
Yeah the Lexington Ave is just like a rolling sardine can. The concentration camp trains were probably comfier. The Second Ave line probably won't relieve it that much either. I drive to a client a lot now and a few weeks back they had air advisories advising public transportation. How the fuck do they think that'd work?
>>60488963
>he is suggesting high-speed rail would solve traffic jams
Nope
>>60488863
>High speed trains would not solve the overcrowded trains problem
Faster trains = faster arrivals = more trains per hour = less people per train = less overcrowding
>>60488531
It's 3000 kilometres from Adelaide to Darwin, takes 54 hours by train
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghan
sell trains
pls buy our trains
our trains are as fast as sonic
>>60488904
That's per year you fool, divide 3.3 million by 365 and it's negligible number. Most of the people rich enough to afford that would just fly any, your argument doesnt make any sense, it's just out of novelty. Funny thing is you're probably one of the poor fucks who would get screwed over by the taxes for paying for it and never even use it
>>60487739
Nope.
Chinese make them well and cheaply.
>>60487665
Train autists are so fucking cancerous
>I don't care if it costs 200 billion $ and never makes money just built it because muh feels!!!
>>60488682
>The only way our public transport would suck less is if we severely lowered population density
It's the exact opposite, low density = shit public transport
>>60488998
But high speed rail is used between cities and the only people who would use them are upper class businessmen who need to travel. It would not have an impact
>>60488226
Wut
>>60489050
>our trains are as fast as sonic
How autistic are the riders?
>>60488948
>moving goalposts at this speed
I never said shutting down metro rails wouldn't cause traffic jams. I said getting high speed rail would not relieve traffic jams, and logically removing it if we had high speed rail would not cause traffic jams.
Our traffic jams in cities are either just due to sheer volume of cars (which high speed rail would not solve because high speed rail is between cities) or accidents (which high speed rail between cities still would not solve). On the highways its almost always due to accidents (which again high speed rail most likely would not solve)
>>60488992
look >>60488445
>>60488998
high speed rails that OP was originally talking about are between cities and not on the commuter transport trains. Unless the goalposts have been just thrown out the fucking window we weren't talking about making the commuter trains faster.
>>60489113
you misunderstand I meant that the only way the current Metro North wouldn't be shit is if we had lower population density.
>>60489017
r u sure or did i dun goof
if not, holy fucking shit Australia is too fucking big
>>60489171
that's Manchester to Ankara btw
>>60489171
yeah but it's not like our country is another europe, bit of a barren shithole tbqh lads
>>60489171
Its just shy of 3000km. Notice how it's not a straight line.
>>60488875
vid makes me emotional Ñ‚bh
>>60489231
yea but still imagine travelling all of that and still being in your cunt must feel ebin
>>60488581
You are comparing apples to oranges here, just because the interstate highway system and high speed rail both cost a fuckton doesnt mean they are the same.
The entire population benefits from the interstate system while only a few thousand rich businessman benefit fro high speed rail while the public still pays billions
>>60489146
See above, it would be a major drain on the public money to service a small entitled group, if you arent a millionaire you have no reason to support high speed rail in the US
>>60489263
wish there was an HD version, I remember seeing that ad all the time on the telly a few years ago
>>60488974
They never thought about it, they just take random ideas from autistic children, write them on a piece of paper, tape it to a dart, and then play darts with these """ideas"""
>>60489171
>countrylets
>>60489171
No Europe's just tiny
>>60489290
It's normal for us. When we go to Europe we're amazed that you can take a train for 30 minutes and arrive in a new country with a different language/culture/people.
tfw not australian
>>60489170
Hey train autist explain why nearly all newly built public rail transport system networks cannot even cover their running expenses let alone pay back their huge inflated cost of construction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_Rail_Runner_Express
>Daily ridership: 3,700
http://www.abqjournal.com/581203/nms-rail-runner-faces-financial-burdens.html
>The train earned $2.8 million last fiscal year in fares from more than a million riders but cost $28.4 million to operate
>>60489298
Also inb4 someone keeps repeating that it would reduce traffic, it won't. Only a small percentage of the population would ever get the chance to use it, the impact on traffic would be negligible, you would never notice the effects let alone have the money or need to use it. You would however, have to pay for the multi billion dollar fine with your tax dollars
>>60489396
>>60489435
s-size doesn't matter ok
and europe is normal sized it's the new world that fucking massive
>>60489455
Get a tan and let your jaw go slack when you speak and you'd pass for one
>>60489474
I'm not the train autist thats OP, I'm against high-speed rails because they are a waste of money that'll just benefit select businessmen
>>60489475
Our highway system isn't even congested, it just gets jams sometimes because there is so much space and time to crash and to have people rubberneck en masse
>>60489540
Oh sorry I misclicked. Still I hope the OP train autist answers this
>>60489532
>Europlets think their little theme park of a "continent" is normal
>>60489435
>tfw driving from Melbourne to Sydney, two of the closest major cities in the country
>takes about 10 hours
>realise I could have driven through 3-4 European "countries" in this time
>>60489050
Are they escaping from germans?
>>60487665
Is north-west full of abos?
>>60489532
yea but
>some island off the coast of europe took over the world
>>60487870
Not my problem you were too lazy to disperse and explore your new found land
>>60489675
>Tfw the drive to the closest major city is 6 hours
It would be neat to lve in a tiny country wouldn't it?
>>60489538
>tfw can still trek the outback with the lads
>>60489795
But then we wouldn't get to brag to Europeans on anonymous Uzbeki zucchini peeling forums
>>60487739
>not hiring chinks to build it for you
>>60489869
>>60489869
Yeah it's fucking amazing living a fucking huge sparsely populated country!!!!
ALL THAT EXPENSIVE FUCKING ESSENTIAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NO ONE WANTS TO PAY FOR!!!!!!! WEW
e.g. The National broadband network
yeah great. fuckin great.
>>60487870
Lol
But seriously is that area the most hospitable? Otherwise surely other areas would have been colonised more right?
>>60490068
Personally I think the pros outweigh the cons.
>>60488395
>Lipton Open posters
>836/826 merger interchange from the 90's
>Those cars
Miamifag detected. You triggered some feels in me anon (no homo)
>>60490068
someone has to build it eventually. and in a few hundred years it'll be like america or whatever
>>60490107
seems so
>>60490107
Yes you retard.
Fun fact: You could fit 2 United Kingdoms into just the arable land of Australia which makes up around 6% of our country.
>>60490165
>Personally I think the pros outweigh the cons.
Ugh, do you know what the economic benefits of having highspeed net are?
>no
>but
>mah gaems will dl fastah
>i canz torrentz
How old are you?
...yeah I mad
>>60490241
Apparently it will be kinda finished in a few more years (for the major cities).
AND because the cunts are doing it on the cheap, it's going to BE FUCKING USELESS.
>100 years
That is actually a realistic time frame though.
>>60490491
Go to Belgium or some other tiny "country" with good internet then, nothings stopping you
>>60489695
kys my man
>>60489532
>and europe is normal sized it's the new world that fucking massive
>What is China and Russia
>>60490491
>it's going to BE FUCKING USELESS.
this is normal for any pie the government fingers senpai
>>60488147
>polish education
they're basically a 51st state without congressional representation
>>60487665
>America would benefit from having an expansive network of passenger rails
Nice meme friend
>>60489112
pay denbts
>>60493873
But, why the fuck not just do it properly in the first place?
>were gonna use existing copper network and fiber, it will be cheaper.
>upgrade the fucking thing to fiber in 5 years because the copper network cant cope.
.... The NBN is just an example though there's a shit load more things that I could use but, I couldn't be bothered.
>>60493982
Legit.
>>60488203
Is water like acid for you?
>>60494367
>But, why the fuck not just do it properly in the first place?
because government, that's why
all we can do now is buy up telstra shares and hope to profit like all the politicians and public servants are no doubt doing
>>60495112
Didn't a bunch of frenchies literally just die in floods?
The infrastructure thing is strange to me.
I mean Australia is quite a wealthy country.
Why can't the just IDK lower the centrelink money for like a year and use that to build the high speed net infrastructure.
>>60487665
Looks better than the Memeland rail system.
>>60496788
Our government privatised most of our internet infrastructure into a company called Telstra ages ago, that was the only big ISP for years and it's in their best interests to keep our retarded population on copper wiring and 250kb up 50kb down. Most people in this shithole can't even fathom what good internet is, and older voters care more about pretty much everything else.
>>60488436
>LA
>Public transit
Now you're confirmed retarded
![trajets_Canada_en[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ZyRn7yb.gif "trajets_Canada_en[1].gif")
>1 (ONE) rail provider with inflated fares and trash timetables for the whole country
when i visited europe i was amazed, i could show up at a train station and buy a ticket for pretty much anywhere i wanted and be gone within 30 minutes
fuck this complete disregard for infrastructure
>His country is so poor even middle class people have to load into cattle cars they all pay for together because no one can afford a $5000 car
that's hilarious
>>60496623
...no ?
European high speed rail isnt as dense as you think.
HYPERLOOP
>>60497752
>Being tested in Nevada
Finally! Good old American desert tech testing! fuck chinks and their trains
>>60488147
it's basically a colony
>>60497584
It is when you consider how small Europe is.
>>60497584
that's only the high speed railroads, if you had to put the city's railroads and the regional railroads you'd get much more of them
>>60490327
>You could fit 2 United Kingdoms into just the arable land
WHY
THE
FUCK
do you have only 24 million people
You could easily fit 130 million in there. No wonder you can't afford good infrastructure, there's literally no one to pay for it.
Yeah sure, lets build trains so poor people from the ghettos can come to our towns and ruin everything.
The interstates act as a physical barrier between the middle class and the gangs
>>60498752
Because most of the land isn't habitable, that's why.
>population is mainly around the coast, it's because we like the beach.
>>60498752
t. denserlands
Implying that half of those routes aren't astronomically expensive tourist trains, that run at frequencies, too low to be of any use to the local population.
>>60497752
>concept phase
In le trash
>>60500402
Are any irrigation projects in place there, like in Israel, or are they too unrealistic?
>>60502746
Considering there were a lot of forests before the abos burned them down it should be possible, but thats a project that would take decades with a high expense
Intercity passenger rail in Australia is a joke, Brisbane to Sydney is a once-a-week milkrun that starts at Roma Street in the early morning and ends up in Sydney at 8 pm
>>60488695
Why do Americans even keep holding Puerto Rico? You gave up the Philippines, dunno why PR is different.
>>60504008
Besides, their ozone layer is quite fucked nowadays, isn't it? I think a forest can't grow in that land anymore, even with Israeli's technique of plantation, considering its actual conditions.
>>60497752
>2 hours confined in darkness at 600 mph
Holy hell that shit would be insane.
>>60500402
>>You could fit 2 United Kingdoms into just the arable land
>just the arable land
That's literally habitable land and you've got twice the amount the britbongs have. They can fit 65 million pakis in half the area, so why are you stuck at 24?
>>60489171
Europe is a midget continent
http://thetruesize.com/
>>60497752
WHAT IF I HAVE TO TAKE A HYPERPOOP
WHERE'S THE HYPERLOO
>>60487665
The US doesn't have a developed rail network for public transportation?
>>60504732
>>60505731
>>60505753
Our rail network is for industry. The government doesn't give a shit about passenger rail.
>>60505864
So how do you do intercity travel without a car? Does everyone ride the bus?
>>60505933
Everyone drives a car.
>>60505968
But that's ridiculous in a larger city. How would a New Yorker get around the country? Assuming he has to move outside the reach of airports.
>>60487665
Lmao @ WA
>>60506033
I don't know, I ask myself the same question, I'm from a town of 5,000 people that's 4 hours away from New York, which is the nearest city. Without a car you can do nothing in a rural area. No public transit whatsoever. I would have to drive 45 minutes just to be able to get on a bus at all.
>>60506095
That's pretty interesting, but I don't understand how it works in practice at all. Just seems so alien.
>>60506033
They'd fly to the closest airport and then rent a car to get around.
>>60506250
Not many areas are beyond the reach of major airports, which usually will have car rental facilities at them. There are also great numbers of smaller airports, most without scheduled service but which can be reached by charter flights
Reminder that the glorious Dwight D. Eisenhower (PBUH) National System of Interstate and Defense Highways and the cars that travel upon it will never be replaced by godless commie trains.
USA USA USA
>>60507025
Enjoy sitting in traffic and finding a parking space.
I'm a large businessman. A high speed train would benefit me
>>60507146
Your car is your sanctuary, a vessel of freedom that can carry you anywhere the distinct smell of hot asphalt will lead you. Only a fool would limit himself to traveling with the unwashed masses at the convenience of the people who run public transit.
tl;dr out of my country you commie fuck
>>60507266
Tells us again about one of your many great adventures on the open road.
>>60504928
"Arable" is a continuum - just coz we have a lot of it, doesn't mean it has the 'carrying capacity' of arable land in say, the UK or Poland (I know nothing of Poland, so excuse me if I am wrong there). A lot of the grazing land can support a couple of sheep per hectare, or for cattle, several hectares are needed for one cow. Conversely, the land that CAN support a higher density of stock is also subject to intermittent but regular drought. And the water resources are the real limit: good old humanity uses a lot of water in most cases. Inland, there isn't really enough to sustain major cities. And so most of our pop live on the coastal fringe in cities like Sydney, Brisbane, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth. The south-eat corner has the most reliable rainfall and this is where most people are found.
>>60502746
We have some: the Murrumbidgee Irrigation Scheme in southern NSW comes to mind, but the water supply is again, limited. And has been - stupidly - over-sold. Another was set up in northern Australia, "The Ord River Scheme" iirc, but while it can take advantage of tropical rainfall and tropical plant productivity, it also has the disadvantages - tropical pests/diseases and transport challenges from our monsoon, "The Wet", and has not been economic yet.
>>60487665
>good goy share a crowded train cart with "youths" and illegal Mexicans with third world diseases
>>60504675
No, trees may be part of the answer. Ozone layer is OK now. What the abos did MADE the landscape we have since over-exploited, clearing away ALL (>90%) of remaining trees for pasture and then adding irrigation. The loss of trees has let the water table rise, bringing deeper salts closer to or even right to the surface. And of course kills the grass. Salt-tolerant tree plantings can lower the water table again, but that still leaves too much salt in the upper soil. This is a big problem we are still working on.
>>60504732
The goal is minutes.
>>60506406
Just visited SL,UT from SAV
>>60507266
>>60507025
True American
>>60507146
>>60507609
Leave this place, commie scum
>>60508071
I thought the Northwest Territory had actual rainforests.
Why isn't the rain as reliable there as it is in the southwest?
>>60500084
t. detroit nigger
>>60487739
not really, it's faster and more reliable for transporting goods than roads, which also require more involved and regular maintenance if they're in the middle of a desert
>>60513013
Hang yourself, false flagging reddit shill
>>60487817
>Alaska
>Hawaii
>Puerto Rico
>"Inter"States
>Only in one state
>>60506033
You either fly or take the bus.
Didn't the Japanese actually offer to build us a functional high speed rail system on the condition that they could collect fares a few years back?
>mfw the Prospector line which runs for <700km is a 10 hour trip
>The train tops out at 160kmh
>Averages about 90
>Literally slower than a car
>Only used because a ticket is cheaper than the fuel to drive the same distance
>>60488226
>Argues against high speed railway systems between cities
Of course you would be against it, your entire country is smaller than a trip between Melb and Adelaide. Your work could be on the other side of your island and your ass could still walk to work and get there on time.
>>60487831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkvyPsCOTh4
>>60513370
>barely bigger than Tasmania
o im laffin
>>60507609
>what is enjoying routes in a muscle/sports car
>what is having the freedom of going off road when on a Jeep
>what is riding a bike
fag
>>60506033
NYC is literally the only city in North America where it is acceptable to not own a car. Literally everywhere else car ownership is necessary to be a part of society, it's just how their cities were built.
>>60513373
the problem is that the pic doesn't take other commuters into account
Having to share your trip with other people (especially people who take public transit, i.e. a fuckton of poor people) is insanely unpleasant. I think I would know, given that I do it for 2 fucking hours every day.
>>60504642
bit tin-foil hat, but i'm pretty sure its useful for the US finance industry to have territories with complicated /unique relationships
>>60513444
san francisco, portland OR and DC all have pretty decent public transport
>>60487831
what the fuck is a brit doing saying that
>>60488298
>Literally no one cares about Puerto Rico.
I bet their creditors do.
>tfw no affordable domestic flights
good shit living in a huge beautiful country and having it be easier to fly anywhere else
>>60487831
Great Dividing Range, look it up. Thats why
>>60497489
....yes?
>>60489171
>3,13 MB image
Nigga stop being a cunt to aussies
>>60490534
tfw moved to Hong Kong and my apartment only has adsl
>>60487665
Australia public transport is shit though.
>>60497275
It's okay here. Slowly improving.
Don't buy trains from the Italians.
>>60498752
FULL,
FUCK OFF
>>60504642
We gave them two referendums on statehood/independence.
They said no to both. Fuck if I knew what why.
>>60514797
Would YOU trust a Puerto Rican to run your country?
>>60513404
>there are """"people"""" out there who don't enjoy or understand the appeal of a spirited drive on an empty country road
It baffles me too, argiebro
>>60489171
how did you get the pro version?
>>60488226
Most high-speed rail services have proven themselves to be a massive success. Just look at some of the European high-speed rail networks. They're all pretty fucking profitable, especially when you factor in the goods traffic which uses the same rails (yep, double-track HS rail usually has goods traffic).
>>60488445
This is mostly a problem with 4-way intersections that are traffic light regulated. The effect of said intersections leak over to the highway system and you end up with a massive traffic jam even on the highways.
>>60488497
High-speed rails is for intercity traffic you fucking idiot. A ticket is cheaper than planes, as well as more comfortable, and it may be preferable to driving for many, especially with reduced travel time. It also allows for mass transport of goods, but the US already has a fairly good (although extremely slow) freight network on rail.
>>60488723
>High speed rail between major cities is a waste of money for 95 percent of the population though, its a type of interest group politics where the money is taken from a larger group of society only to benefit a smaller group.
Bullshit, look at Germany or Denmark for a high-speed rail networks that all people who often travel between cities use. Our own country would do well with high-speed rail too, because we have extremely high plane traffic between our largest cities per capita, higher than most of Europe.
Just because your country is poor as shit doesn't mean every country is.
>>60489074
You mean 90k a day? That's not negligible.
where's my skyrail first? i don't care about accessing other irrelevant cities like syndey
