>mfw just realized Brazilian Portuguese has a semi-guttural R in some cases and in European Portuguese it's fully rolled all the time
Is this why they say our accent is shit? I thought it was them who sounded like drunk retards at first, but now I kinda understand their point of view. Where the fuck did our guttural R come from?
>>60339557
I like it. Our Portuguese is superior. It's easier for us to speak English.
>>60339637
This- Brazilian Portuguese is superior
>>60339637
>>60340160
>colonial dialects
>superior
>ever
Real Portugese sounds like slav language to me
>in Brazil, R makes an H sound
>>60339637
>Not learning ow to roll your Rs
Degenerate
>>60340217
Our guttural R must be a leftover of moor colonization.
>>60340248
This.
>>60340217
Brazilian Portuguese is closer to the original portuguese that was spoken in Europe.
Most find Brazilian Portuguese nicer to listen to and easier to understand
>>60340323
Sounds nothing like a H
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvular_trill
>guttural r
>>60340679
>hurr wikipedia
Ask a BR to vocaroo "Resto" or actually any of their words or names beginning with R.
>>60339637
>it's easier for us to speak English
No. Brazilians speaking English is plain bad. I think in my entire life I've heard 2 brazilians speaking english undestandably.
Brazilian pornounciations is limited in comparison to Portuguese pronounciation. OP's case in point is just one example. And languages with limited phonemes have a harder time speaking other languages than their own.
>>60339557
pensa-se que é porque os ameríndios não conseguiam soletrar o "r"
por esse motivo também no estado de sã paulo o "r" é dito como em inglês, também outra estratégia adoptada pelos índios
>>60340657
wrong tho
>>60340679
lol did you even click to listen to the sound
>>60340964
>Brazilian pornounciations is limited in comparison to Portuguese pronounciation
this desu. it's more than known
>>60340701
It's a bit less exaggerated than the French and German R though. Listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY9NAOQ4fcU
>>60340657
>Brazilian Portuguese is closer to the original portuguese that was spoken in Europe.
This is a straight up lie used by ex-colonies all across the world. They refer to vocabulary, which they indeed keep purer than the metrópolis, but they speak nothing like the old colonizers.
The accents in ex-colonies are bastardized versions of a slang language spoken by the very worst people living in that country, not "the original way".
>>60339557
what the fuck are you talking about,european portuguese R is fully guttural
>>60341065
>lol did you even click to listen to the sound
Yeah, that is why I said it does not sound any thing like a H
Unless you mean
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiced_uvular_fricative
Sorry I don't speak monkey dialect
>>60342782
In my dialect, it's literally a H. Not uvular at all.
>>60342782
Listen to: >>60341553
>>60342704
No it isn't. These are the only regions of Europe that pronounce it.
>>60339557
European version of the language is always superior
This is a fact
>>60340657
>is closer to the original
Can you colonial fags stop spreading this false meme?
>>60342954
Sounds like an alveolar ridge tap to me.
Nothing guttural about it.
>>60342948
Everyone pronounces words like "rato, rei, rio" with a guttural sound no matter the dialect. It only differs from region to region for words like "porta, torta, morte", etc.
>>60342954
>>60341970
LIES, BRASIL STRONG. BRAZILIAN DIALECT PUREST AND GREATEST, AS INDEED BRAZIL IS SUPERIOR IN EVERYTHING.
>>60343043
Case 1 and 2 aren't guttural. Case 3 and 4 are.
>>60341970
Show proofs,
>>60343363
dude why do you think you speak like the portuguese of the age of discovery even though your country was influenced by the immigrants and tupi ?You really think the people in portugal living in the rural villages just lost their accent/dialect like it was nothing?
>>60340657
>>60341970
>>60342988
BR is right. New world is best world.
Canadian French is purest French. American English is pureat English. Mexican Spanish is purest Spanish.
>>60340657
>>60342988
>>60341970
>>60343125
>>60343363
>Caring about muh language purity
Why dont we all just go back to speaking Old English.
>>60343547
Thou proposeth an exceptional proposition, mine moorish comrade.
>>60344230
Thats Early Modern English, Old English is not intelligible to us
