Do you support Venetian independence /int/?
>>60339434
Yes because I like their flag.
>>60339434
Nice meme
Completly neutral.
Why do they wanna be independent, because of corrupt government?
>>60339434
t. great great grandson of a venitian settler in some island of greece
>>60339474
There's no movement for Venice to be indipendent.
only if Italy supports "malvinas"
>>60339523
nice propaganda shitalian, 90% of people above the age of 10 in veneto want to be independent
Lega Nord is NOT independeist, we have our own movement
>>60339474
unique history, culture, language, being oppressed by shitalians and their shitty poor government
>>60339470
>>60339434
no, and greece should annex macedonia
>muh heritage
>>60340011
i dont care about grease,
>>60339434
Yes, I want us to be independent.
And not so fast. Friuli goes with us too
>>60339880
>language
do venetians have a language on their own?
>>60340585
Everyone in Italy does
>>60340637
except that only ours and the sardinians are the only ones not going extinct
>>60340458
what about isria? Are there any venetian croatians?
>>60340637
what
don't you just have "italian" ?
oh qt, venetian has "ł" just like polish
I support Venice now
>>60340711
"Italian" is a variant of the Tuscan language, most young people speak Italian as their first language but many old people can't speak it
>>60340708
Bullshit
>>60340782
how the fuck Western European "countries" even hold together
did they force local populations to abandon their dialects/languages?
>>60340850
Tuscan has always been the lingua franca of Italy, it was natural to adopt it as the official one. No one is forcing people to speak Italian instead of their local language, but of course it's more convenient, as everything is written and spoken in Italian (like TV).
>>60340850
>A fucking Gook talks about Europe
>>60339434
*tips gondola*
M'veneto
>>60340391
Heh. I've been following you for a while, my Venetian friend, and you know what? You're right. Libre Venezia.
You see, Shitaly is amade up country. My grandfather is Neapolitano, and has never once identified as Italian (except on government documents). Veneto for the Venetians, Sicilia for the Sicilians, and Lombardia for the Lombards. Italian unification was a terrible mistake and should be undone.
You agree?
>>60341704
Trust me, someone who actually lives in Italy unlike you and the Greek guy, you rarely hear garbage like this here, no one wants to leave. Some people want a stronger political autonomy for the regions and that's it.
>>60340708
no fuck off
>>60339434
Are you venetians Celtic people?
>>60342099
Venetians are predominantly Latin, but they also have some Celt and Balkanoid genes in them.
>>60341704
fuck off, Italy is one
minor cultural and linguistic differences are nothing
even when unified Italy wasn't a thing intellectuals considered Italy as a single cultural entity (Dante, Machiavelli etc)
that said, it doesn't mean i can't identify as a Lombard, it's not exclusive
>>60339434
Exactly how big/serious are secession movements in Italy?
Is Lega Nord secessionists?
>>60342702
Lega nord is not secessionist anymore
>>60340850
Italy barely counts as Western European. It's like Turkey, part European, mostly Asiatic.
Someone told Italians they're going to be one country whether they want to or not. Italy is more artificial than Yugoslavia.
>>60342195
t. napolitano
>>60342702
lega nord are not really secessionist, real independists are venetian people
It seems that we have many allies abroad, join us and kill all shitalians!
PAR SAN MARCO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB6U2He_-yE
>>60343025
this
we're an artificial country that's basically asia
this meme is still alive?
>>60343241
Because Venetians need to be distracted from the fact that their city smells like shit.
>>60343064
i tested negative for cholera thank you for your concern
why do you live in greece anyway if you care about your homeland so much?
Venice is dying, it's turning into a huge historical theme park, come and make a difference
hell, if you really care pick up arms like >>60343096 said, you fucking coward
until then, leave our country alone
>>60343302
another meme popular with foreigners and new worlders.
>>60343340
and Italian basement dwellers
>>60342702
old Lega was quite big and serious enough
they got more and more watered down through the years, now Salvini dropped secessionism for good and opened up to terroni
they're just another LePenist movement now
>>60343431
>old Lega was quite big
It's the opposite, it was an irrelevant shit before
>no supporting Genovese independence
>>60343490
yeah let's give them back to Israel
>>60343490
>not supporting the Principality of Seborga
>>60343322
i will faggot, im running a business here, I will fight for my country
>>60343574
"""""""""""country"""""""""""""
>>60343480
they had the majority in most of Lombardia and Veneto for decades
of course they had no support in the center/south, but that doesn't matter for a secessionist party
>>60343574
oh so you're running a business elsewhere while not contributing in the slightest to "your" country's economy in its hardest day
such a great citizen you are
>>60340458
Greedy Serb, the Friulians are their own people. Only Trst and Gorica go to Slovenia, the rest is the sovereign territory of our brother nation the Friaul and of the Venetians who can rightly stay across the Piave.
>>60343480
>>60343804
wrong pic, but point very much stands
>>60343856
why does Liguria not like Lega Nord?
>>60343845
>Trieste and Gorizia
>ever belonging to the Slovenes
You're even more delusional than the Venetian independists.
>>60343949
they vote for the sionist party
>>60340918
>Tuscan has always been the lingua franca of Italy
Is there anything the Etruscans can't do?
>>60343856
Jesus Christ
>>60344036
AVANTI O POPOLO
>>60339454
Agreed.
>>60344027
discover America or make pasta
>>60344036
It's what Petrarca would have wanted.
>>60343966
For most of May 1945, it did :)
>>60343949
people who vote Lega Nord are those descending from rural Italy mostly, Liguria was one of the first industrialized regions of Italy
also they're not "real" northeners, they're something in between
>>60344099
Yugoslavia and Slovenia are two different things
>>60344036
duh Emilia and Tuscany have always been red regions
Bologna and Livorno are the leftist capitals of Italy
>>60344141
Slovenia already existed in Yugoslavia, arguably in both iterations. We were like an American state, with our own national assembly. Had the Anglos not intervened, Trst would have gone to the Socialist Federal Republic of Slovenia within Yugoslavia.
>>60344138
are you saying I am a terrone
>>60344141
Don't argue about clay with Slovenians, it's a waste of time.
>>60344099
>For most of May 1945, it did :)
By that logic Lubiana is rightfully Italian, since Italians ruled it from 1940 until 1945.
>>60344281
liguri are not terroni but nobody likes them either
>>60344281
Western Liguria is as poor as Southern Italy
>>60344331
*1941 to 43.
Do you really think they could have gone for the entire length of the war without throwing up the white flag?
So is friuli becoming an exclave or does it go with Venetia?
How much cancer in just one thread
>>60344480
Friulians are Romansch people, not Italians. They deserve their own free state.
>>60344356
>>60344374
my perspective on life is changed forever
>>60344376
Considering the Yugoslavs abandoned Trieste after a single month, it's easy to see who has the better war record here.
>>60344281
no, you're jewish
>>60343376
Being a basement dweller in Venice sounds dangerous.
Most "Venetian" shitposters aren't in Venice anyway, but the image of them all drowning to death the next time Venice floods warms my heart.
>>60344636
>abandoned
You must be literally retarded
>>60344686
noone under the age of 65 lives in Venice proper anymore
>>60344636
One does not simply argue with a slovenian about WW2 matters.
I support the utter and total "balkanization" of Europe into integral nationalist micro republics
>>60344724
look who's talking
>>60344782
go away oppressor
>>60344782
I hate you, be gone
>>60344834
but we were victicms just as any other country
>>60344724
I know they're retarded, but it's fun flinging shit. Maybe I'll stop by their country one day and improve the gene pool a bit.
>>60344886
you leaf bearers are slimy scum
slovenia is gay lol
>>60344886
Trszt to nasze, kurwa. Ja pierdole Kanadcie.
>>60339434
they don't deserve it
>>60344949
Italy ?
More like no balls tally.
>>60345038
TRST JE NAAAS JE NAAAAAAAAAAAAS
SZCZCSZCSZCCZCSZOEL
JASDJKCOZOPWWZSXY
KURWA LOOK AT THAT BYDLETTE GURL, SHE'S SO BLYAT!
KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRWWWA
r8 my slovenian pls
>>60344944
Scortese desu, non sii cattivo.
>mfw italians are just arabs with better food
>>60344138
I don't get this shit. The peninsula (teronneland) IS ITALY. So northern non-peninsular Italians are proud of their non-Italianess so much. What do they want to be? Celtic niggers? Germanics? French? Alpines?
Why do they hate their Latin heritage so much? Latins brought civilisation to Europe. That's why the Gauls, the Iberians, and the Dacians speak THEIR language. They hate their own culture because they think being Mediterranean is dirty or something. Fucking northern nigger alpine fucktards.
>>60345209
>implying
memes like pasta and pizza doesn't surpass goat arab food
>>60345284
>goat arab food
>everything is boiled and dipped in harissa
>>60345284
nice try, my Moroccan friend
Very good, blet. Now you have 10 seconds to act as Italian as possible.
>>60345284
>goat arab food
Do you eat your wife as well?
>>60345278
They're just mad about Italy's incompetent government that pisses away tax dollars, further compounded by rates that are way too high. Only the ultra-retarded claim they aren't Italian.
>>60339434
Yes, and also the independence of other states within the Italian Peninsula.
Especially the Papal States, we gotta bring it back.
>>60345209
BEADY
E
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>>60339454
This
>>60345339
my whole army was stopped by 2 surrendering French men, surely this is the fault of Austria, Germany pls help
>>60345278
>Why do they hate their Latin heritage so much? Latins brought civilisation to Europe. That's why the Gauls, the Iberians, and the Dacians speak THEIR language. They hate their own culture because they think being Mediterranean is dirty or something. Fucking northern nigger alpine fucktards.
>>60344769
> republics
kys
>>60345348
>says the country that actually eats Arab food (>muh sarmale)
Howevermuch I hate Italians, I will never hate them more than I do Balkanites.
>>60345278
everything from the Alps down is Italy, they're just memeing
they hate terroni not for their heritage, but because they're a dirty, ignorant and violent bunch who immigrated to their land, and does who haven't weigh down Italy with their corruptions and laziness
this is more or less taken by my dialogues with my Lega voting acquaitances, i don't share their view
>>60345278
Everyone is inferior to Tuscans, both terroni and polentoni.
>>60345449
You don't know what republic means, kill yourself.
>>60345339
ok
*make every 10/10 slovenian girl fall in love with me*
>>60345415
they were 9 though
>>60345442
nice pic of a romanian gypsy.
>>60345542
that's what the italians said to attenuate the shame
>>60343025
there is literally nothing "asiatic" about italy
>>60343302
it doesn't smell like shit. it's smells like rotten fish
>>60345588
There is, but not for the reasons the idiot thinks probably. We have very high amounts of admixture from the Middle Eastern farmers of the neolithic period.
>>60345706
no you got Moor'd up lad
>>60345731
That was only Sicily.
>>60345731
we are arabs, not moors
>>60345797
Arabs didn't exist at the time we acquired this "Asiatic" admixture. It's more correct to say we're just Mediterranean.
>>60345797
Moor was used as a blanket term for all the islamized and arabized people of north africa, italy and spain
>>60345929
Yes, but only Sicilians got Moor'd and they aren't even part of the peninsula.
>>60345465
>i don't share their view
tips fedora
>>60345990
south italy got albanian'd
>>60345731
The moors ruled Sicily for 700 years. They brought science and prosperity to the island, but whitey forced black Africans out of Sicily. The black Sultans of Sicily were tolerant and accepting. It's always like whitey to try and erase history.
>>60345990
and then Sicilians moved to north Italy and Moor'd them
>>60346110
ok Justin
>>60346023
*tips brown shirt*
M'ussolini
>>60346110
The Normans built cooler shit than them.
>>60346516
my arse shits better castles
>>60346577
bit rude
>>60346577
Well, considering most of your castles are from the Victorians era when castles were useless except for decoration, I can believe that.
>>60346577
It's a pretty early castle though. It looks good for the time it was made and it's exceptionally well preserved.
>>60346516
This. The South will rise again. It was the height of south Italian power, that even managed to stave off Byzantines and lots of Frederick II's being natives from his kingdom of Sicily.
>you will never EVER live in 12th century glorious kingdom of Sicily, enjoy true Renaissance in cosmopolitan Palermo as the polentoni either slave to their German duke masters or kill themselves in violent city vs. city wars
>>60339434
Yes.
>>60346869
I wish for the south to get his shit together
I really do
>>60346638
>>60346790
>>60346795
my local castle is from the 1200s and impregnable!
>>60346790
There are Victorian """castles""", but most British castles are like from the 1400s and shit.
>>60347035
hmmmmmmm
>>60347035
looks pretty shit to b honest
now this is impregnable
>>60346110
>The moors ruled Sicily for 700 years.
>>60347146
>no moat
>no keep
>no stables
it's just pretty
>>60347202
>no moat
pic related
rest was taken down I believe
>>60347021
Blame the Spaniards. Everything they touch turns to shit
South Italy was always among the richest pieces of Europe due to Roman infrastructure, Mediterranean trade largely going through the strait and good management by the Norman nobility. Everyone wanted to own it. It was truly a powerful kingdom that could raise more soldiers than the Angevin army back in the times of Richard the Lionheart
>>60345145
polish/10
>>60347327
>draining the moat
reeeeeee
>>60347334
>Spaniards
It was the bourbons
>>60347416
>still having to worry about sieges in the year of our lord 2016
why is england so backwards?
>>60347334
Lombardy and Netherlands were under Spain thou
And the south was rich because of a high agricultural output not really due to the infrastructure
>>60347501
And spansh mismanagement caused them to rebel
>>60347501
Lombardy was under Spain for 100 years, Sicily for 400
>>60347477
> letting your guard down
Is this why Italy loses every war?
>>60347501
>>60347617
>Spain
*Habsburgs
Fucking Austrian Kikes.
>>60347671
we honestly don't give a fuck
It seems pointless given we come up on top anyway
>>60347477
compare our military histories and let's see who is backwards Gianluigi
>>60347671
They don't lose wars, they switch sides at the opportune moment.
Dumb shit, this is why Canada loses the long haul.
>>60347711
>beat a bunch of niggers we sticks
>we empire breh
come on now
>>60347752
THE BIGGEST, BADDEST EMPIRE THAT EVER LIVED
>>60347711
>Invaded by Romans
>become roman
>Invaded by 123 diffferent Germanic tribes
>we germanics now
>Invaded again by Normans
>start speaking retarded french
>Invaded again by the Dutch
>i-it was a revolution, w-we won kind of
>hide on island and murder some nigger with sticks
>we empire now
WEW LAD
>>60347876
actually we are Anglo-Saxons till the day we die
also what the fuck is Slovenia are you some kind of Italian-Serbian spawn?
>>60347785
Reminder that Anglos are the reason Indians don't poo in loo.
>>60347967
we do that to everyone kek
>>60347928
Italo-Austro-Serbo-Croat hybrid race. The least shitty Eastern European country.
>>60347928
>w-we anglo-saxon cause we got invaded by these dudes called saxons and then these dudes called angles
>whaddaya mean we got invaded by a bunch of frisians, danes and even franks
>we'll just call ourselves anglo-saxons lel
y u got to be mad lad
>>60347928
what's wales are you some kind of sheep spawn?
>>60347967
is this the true face of perfidious Albion?
>>60347451
It was the Habsburg
>>60347501
I said infrastructure because it wasn't as laid to waste as other parts of Europe, and it's unique position allowed for good trade infrastructure
>>60347928
you welsh are celtic britons,don't let the eternal anglo keep you down
>>60348015
I can trace my paternal ancestors a gentleman from Schleswig-Holstein who belonged to the Angle tribe
>>60348009
Trst je vječno slovensko ognjište
>>60348157
Sure lad :^)
>>60348143
> random tribe of Germanic barbarians from who know the fuck where
> cucks the entire planet with their language
Britons are native Celts. They too, have been cucked by the eternal anglo.
>>60348157
>Angle
That's something a Rasheed would say.
At last you paid attention in your history class
>>60348232
reminder that your sons and daughters will speak the language of the Anglo, the language of MY ancestors and eventually all languages in Europe will die out until you all speak English
>>60348300
>>60348269
Nobody fucking speaks English. Everyone is using American.
>>60348300
kek you're so clueless it's cute
>>60348300
>he thinks he speaks the language of the Anglo
>he thinks it's not just retarded French from all the norman rape
>he thinks we're not speaking american
Wew lad
>>60348009
>The least shitty Eastern European country.
...And they're still poorer than Southern Italy.
>>60348300
Not how languages work. When all other languages die out, they'll wish they speak this English, as opposed to the abominable globalist speech infused with all sorts of elements they will
Ra
>>60348347
>>60348383
>implying americans aren't our servants fulfilling our wishes for world domination
>>60348407
and yet our hdi is higher, how shitty must italy be?
>>60348424
>you now remember the Suez crisis and the US literally selling your nuclear secrets to the Russians or all that friendly fire in the wars they dragged you in.
Losing it la
>>60348472
>muh HDI
I ti, sine?
>>60348424
>implying you're not a cuckold in denial
>>60348516
>The Human Development Index (HDI) is a composite statistic of life expectancy, education, and income per capita indicators
Zašto ne Mario?
2006 European Borders.
Keep it. Fight for it.
I will not support any rebellion villagers
>>60348424
just face it, the colony rebeled and has surpassed you by a great margin, and you're mad about it, oh yes, you're assmad
and all of this because the french saw the opportunity to proxy war you like you island bastards did for all your entire history, always hiding in your little cuckeshed of a an island country.
>>60348587
>Mario
Okinut
>>60348473
>>60348587
You could go full butthurt and pull out the IHDI card since there are strong wealth differences between regions in Italy.
>>60349007
DAS RITE
>>60349007
And that's because if greedy ROME with its bimbo politicians and the Eternal Polentone
>>60349056
>>60349007
>jerking off over HDI
90% of this country is a shithole, including the major cities are shitholes too, but we score high on HDI. Hell, Vancouver is rated as the most liveable city in the world despite the fact that nobody in the country can afford to live there.
>>60349096
>terronia dindu
>>60349007
Just give us Gorica back lad, you can keep Trieste with all the chinks and gentlemen of colour
>>60349225
>back
>implyings it was ever yours
>>60349348
Obriši to
>>60339474
I think it had something to do with them carrying an unfair portion of the economic burden of the country. As well as them being fairly unique from other Italians.
I could be wrong though.
>>60349348
Yeah man, Gorica is such a typical Italian(roman lmao) toponym
>>60349483
Gorizia is :^) And how do you explain a lot of the architecture there looking Italian?
>>60349443
the latter is true for every region in the north
the first for every single one
>>60349483
that's because it's called Gorizia and Trieste
>>60349558
>>60349615
>Gorizia is
It's not, that's just Gorica italianized.
>And how do you explain a lot of the architecture there looking Italian?
no such thing
>>60349558
That's actually Slovene Karantanian architecture. Though it's something you wouldn't learn in school, just like you stole Marko Polo and Faust Vrančić from us
>>60349668
hahahahaha jesus christ you're worse than afrocentrists
>>60349668
Look at the list of the most recent significant architects from there. Only one of them is Slovenian.
>>60349744
>>60349986
Man, I love baiting Italians. Not because I despise you, or feel the need to do you "harm" (whatever harm means in this context, harrasment, triggering...) but because of your naive and honest replies. Italy is my favorite country in Europe
>>60350148
delete this
>>60349986
>only one of them is slovenian
>clearly more than one slovenian
Good job lad.
>>60350383
where is the evidence
>when italian girls whisper 'ti voglio bene' as you penetrate them with your big anglo-saxon willy
>>60350449
>non "ti amo" o "scopami"
beta britcuck never change
>>60350383
Max FABIANI
Nicoló PACASSI
Antonio LASCIAC
Guess the odd one out.
Tbh, Gorizia was always a multi-ethnic town. It didn't belong to any specific group. There were Austrians, Slovenes and Venetians/Friulians living there.
>>60350493
t. virgin
>>60339454
this
>>60350410
>Gojmir Anton Kos
>Jožef Tominc
>Franz Caucig (Franc Kavčič)
And my personal favourite
>Max Fabiani
Probably some others as well but thanks for trying.
>>60350529
It was literally founded by slavs and has a slavic name, not only that but it also had a Slovene majority until Fascism and Italianisation became a thing.
>mfw Shitalians turn my Venetian thread into something about Italy
the eternal l*mbard is at it again
>>60350555
t.
>>60350529
And French, Jean-Henry IV de Gorissie was a famous french politician who governed over the French exclave of Gorrisie in the 14th century
>>60350632
your thread would be dead long ago like the independent movement, anon
>>60350594
They aren't architects. Learn how to read. And Max Fabiani was of Friulian and Triestine ancestry.
>>60350632
I am a greek
>>60347928
>actually we are Anglo-Saxons till the day we die
Brits are matriarchal Celtic cucks.
>>60350529
antonio is clearly slovene
>>60350733
that's what he implied lad
>>60339434
Ideally, yes. The current movements that push for it are total jokes tho, no way I want to become independent under those unprepared fools. If a decent group came out with a well thought out and practical road to independence prepared, I'd be all over it tho.
>>60339474
>Why do they wanna be independent
Marked ethnonationalism and muh taxes mostly.
>>60350691
>And Max Fabiani was of Friulian and Triestine ancestry.
He had Slovene family as well, spent most of his time in the Slovene lands, spoke Slovene and had a great deal of influence in architecture here.
By the way, Trieste WAS Frulian plural majority with Slovenes being a close second while Italians being a minority for a long period of time until Friulians started counting as Italians.
>>60350751
His name was Anton Laščak
>Italianisation
Same happened to the Maldini family DESU SENPAI
>>60350914
>until Friulians started counting as Italians
So since roman times?
>>60350632
You're shit just like everyone posting regularly the same topic in the same style to be recognized You should jump off Ponte dei Sospiri and drown.
>>60350719
my girlfriend literally isn't allowed to leave the house with my permission
and no I am not a paki
>>60350914
He was the result of a blanda upp between an Austrian aristocrat and a Friulian dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Fabiani
>Fabiani was born to father Antonio Fabiani, a Friulian latifondist from Paularo of Bergamasque ancestry, and mother Charlotte von Kofler, a Triestine aristocrat of Tyrolean origin. He grew up in a cosmopolitan trilingual environment: besides Italian, the language of his family, and Slovene, the language of his social environment, he learned German at a very young age.
I'd say he's more Italian than anything though, since it was his main language.
>>60350954
>let me tell you what Friulians are
As per the government of Italy, they don't even speak Italian and had their own fair share of independence movements.
They even renamed one of the streets in Friuli from Via Italia to some Habsburg fuck, lmao.
Also
>roman times
>Italians
Italy was nothing more than a geographical location. There were no Italians.
>>60351118
Austrian women were made for Italian cock.
>>60351118
He was literally related to Jožef Tominc lad.
>Frulian
>Austrian
>Slovene
>>turns into Italian
'no'
>>60351081
>my hand literally isn't allowed to leave the house with my permission
You're being edgy. All native brits equate being civilized with being a doormat for women.
>>60351135
>let me tell you what Friulians are
They are my mother's side of the family. I dare say I know more of them than some foreigner with an axe to grind.
Also you're being exceedingly disingenuous here. You're trying to pretend that just because italians didn't have a national identity before the 19th century, they also didn't have an ethnic one, which is false as all fucks. The italic ethnic family existed since the fucking bronze age, and it spread to all Italy from the Alps down through romanization.
After all on the same reasoning you could argue that Germany was only geography until the 19th century too. Are you gonna try that?
>>60351295
Where is his Slovene ancestry though? Not seeing it. His surname was Italain and the surname of his mom was German.
>>60351386
>he's never been to Wales
>>60351394
>just because italians didn't have a national identity before the 19th century, they also didn't have an ethnic one, which is false as all fucks
But that's literally correct.
Italy was nothing more than geographic term. Italians literally did not exist.
>muh romans
>muh etruscans
>muh sicilians
etc
Only in the modern era has Italian gotten any sort of ethnic connotation.
>They are my mother's side of the family. I dare say I know more of them than some foreigner with an axe to grind.
There's literally a frulian poster on this board that used to post very frequently. Just because you were led to believe Fruilians are Italians doesn't make them.
Except the German people existed before that, even the HRE was renamed to the Holy Roman empire of the German nation around the 15th century iirc.
As for Friulians
>don't even speak Italian
>bilingual region with literal signs in two languages
>are an autonomous region
>have their own independence movements
Makes sense. The only thing Italian about them is that they live in Italy and thus are citizens.
>>60351436
>wiki
>>60351453
>>60351765
Friulians are our bitches.
![Strandtuch-3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cMSk6ah.jpg "Strandtuch-3[1].jpg")
>>60339434
The White men of South Tyrol stand by your side. Nigger Italians are a curse.
>>60351765
>this much ignorant bullshit
>mfw
http://divinacommedia.weebly.com/inferno-canto-ix.html
Sì come ad Arli, ove Rodano stagna,
sì com’a Pola, presso del Carnaro
ch’Italia chiude e suoi termini bagna,
http://www.oilproject.org/lezione/italia-mia-petrarca-parafrasi-canzoniere-machiavelli-8488.html
Ben provide Natura al nostro stato,
quando de l’Alpi schermo
pose fra noi et la tedesca rabbia;
ma ’l desir cieco, e ’ncontr’al suo ben fermo,
s’è poi tanto ingegnato,
ch’al corpo sano à procurato scabbia.
Or dentro ad una gabbia
fiere selvagge et mansüete gregge
s’annidan sí che sempre il miglior geme:
>>60352451
dude they have their dialect, they obviously need independence why are you trying to deny it it's so clear
>>60349986
>Futurist architect
I thought nobody other than Sant'Elia was mad enough to try being one
>>60352451
geographic borders =/= ethnicity
Thanks for trying though.
>>60352522
>dialect
It's not a dialect though, ask the Italian government, it's literally a recognized language in Italy and separate from Italian.
If you were ever there you could have seen for yourself. Traffic signs and city names are literally written twice, once in Italian and once in Friulian and its mandated by law.
>>60352653
>le geographic bordrs dude xD
read the second one retard
inb4 I can't, get a culture before you talk about stuff you have no idea about goddamnit.
>>60352742
You got btfo and are in damage control, it's okay lad.
>>60352800
>I have literally never read a page by Machiavelli nor I am able to read petrarca's most famous political poem asking for unity between Italian reigns, I am also a ignorant dirt poor Slovene faggot please insult me
it's okay lad
>>60352888
>this mad
kek
>>60352653
the autonomous region thing grant it the status of language and bilingual sign, and it's a bullshit that comes from the immediate post war
I've been there and it's just like some places here where you have sign in occitan, does that mean Piemonte should be independent too?
>>60352952
>dude I was baiting all aloug u mad?
Sloveni colera
make Venezia great again!!!
>>60352653
>it's literally a recognized language in Italy
So is Sardegnan and Sicilian, but they're still not counted as separate ethnicities.
