Was he an international icon?
No.
>>60328628
>Against race mixing
>Said blacks should be thankful they live in the U.S. and not in the hellhole that is Africa
>Against Jewish wars in developing nations
>Was a KANG 'n shit
He's pretty based desu
>Nigger that punches people
>Icon
>>60328795
Totally rekt that nigger my fellow /b/tard! xD
>>60328628
I thought he was a racist draft dodger who hated America but dindu nuffin.
Self promotion and athleticism wise tho, he was based.
>>60328628
Yes
He's gone to a better place now
>>60328947
He had a point though. Why should he fight for America when blacks were treated like shit by Americans
>>60329000
NIce trips.
But America afforded him everything from his career, his health to his fame.
You think he would have been just as successful of a person if he lived in like, south Sudan?
>>60329059
Plenty of successful south Sudanese granted both them and Ali made their fortunes far from home.
>>60329059
And he used that money and fame to speak for the injustices against the blacks, it's not like he just said "I don't wanna fight lol" he made a statement that fighting in a foreign country is retarded when we have a war at home (race war)
"Ain't no Vietcong called me a nigger" n shiet
>>60329222
But America afforded him both that fame and that platform and (muh) freedom to preach his point of view. If he truly was grateful for this, wouldn't he have helped his country and countrymen but not draft dodging?
Yes.
Household name across the majority of the world.
>>60329290
To be fair you have to keep in mind the time at which all of this happened,the racial shit was definitely a lot bigger than it is now so it is somewhat understandable not to mention he admitted that at the time he was pretty angry and said and done a lot of things he shouldn't have.
>>60329290
He made the right decision considering that South Vietnam would never have been able to survive on its own. The U.S. overestimated the competence of its allies and underestimated its enemies resolve.
>>60329290
You're completely missing the point.
If you got rich from a casino, do you owe some sort of allegiance to that casino? If the casino asked you to risk your life for them, would you be morally obligated to do so because they afforded your riches?
Ali was making a point that his fellow blacks were getting treated like garbage. Why should he go fight for a government that treats his people like shit?
He was basically saying that the Vietnamese never did anything bad to him but white Americans have.
He almost went to prison because of the whole Vietnam draft.
>>60329290
>helping out in offensive wars for the sake of political or economic gains is a good thing
i swear to god i never got this logic.
Defensive war to protect your country? Sure. Some shit happening 12 timezones away? Fuck right off.
>>60328725
>Against race mixing
When he was young. Not anymore.
Absolutely indisputably
Anyone else saying anything otherwise is just memeing
>>60329421
yeah i agree 2bh, i would easily give my life defending this country in case of a foreign invasion, but have no desire to force other people to take the same route by invading their country
>>60328646
>this butthurt indian faggot posting this in multiple threads
Fuck off
>>60328628
>mfw I once had a discussion with my dad on who was better Muhammad Ali or Cassius Clay
>go to the computer to watch some videos and solve the discussion
>same guy
at least he is known in Mexico, but we are into boxing, so Idk about the rest
>>60328795
/thread
>>60328725
He also has an IQ of 80
>>60329290
He made it himself. He owed nothing to US
>>60331288
He owes it all to the US. His life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. If he'd stayed in coon town in Africa he would have been just another spearchucker and would never seen so mich pristine teen white pussy like he did in USA.
>>60328628
yes
>>60328795
Watched his biggest fight. It's two guys punching each other for 8 minutes until one of them faints. I want my 8 minutes back.
YES
My father used to call him Cassius Clay... best boxer ever
He really will be remembered for what he was, a beacon of hope for his people
>>60328628
Draft dodging, white hating muslim
> international icon
>>60331545
This. Parkinson's was his punishment from actual God.
>>60331545
>>60331559
Vietcong never called him a nigger so why should he have supported an apartheid America fight an unnecessary war that only occured because the French got rekt?
>>60331545
>m-muh draft
good goy
>"I ain't draft dodging. I ain't burning no flag. I ain't running to Canada. I'm staying right here. You want to send me to jail? Fine, you go right ahead. I've been in jail for 400 years. I could be there for 4 or 5 more, but I ain't going no 10,000 miles to help murder and kill other poor people. If I want to die, I'll die right here, right now, fightin' you, if I want to die. You my enemy, not no Chinese, no Vietcong, no Japanese. You my opposer when I want freedom. You my opposer when I want justice. You my opposer when I want equality. Want me to go somewhere and fight for you? You won't even stand up for me right here in America, for my rights and my religious beliefs. You won't even stand up for my right here at home."
>>60331943
Recognize the genocide already
>>60331978
no
>>60331719
Other men went against their will too, but they have an obligation to fight for their team. Ali was a coward.
>>60331943
*tips*
I don't know who this is.
>>60332023
not risking your life in a pointless and unjust war isn't cowardice, it's self-interest and intelligent
Yes, he was one of my heroes. Even the kids living in slums here know his name. And I completely support his decision to not join the army.
>>60332116
kek
>>60331376
True, but put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel if you were being treated like a second class citizen in your own home country? Would you feel that your country was a place worth fighting for? It's completely understandable that he would refuse to be drafted, to me.
dying is ok
good boxers aren't that retard tbqh, you can't be a complete idiot and be best at what sport you are doing
>>60333652
I dunno, Maradona was/is dumb as shit and he was the absolute best until Messi got around
>>60328628
Yes
>>60333696
most of them are ignorant or clueless about nearly everything since they didn't study university and they are doing their job since their childhood, but that doesn't mean they are fucktards tbqh
>Criticize Trump
>Die
He was let off the first time since they were friends but he just had to do it again
>>60331285
so do you
>>60333802
Your jet got downed by a nation that has the IQ of 80 and your leader cried like a toddler. How do you feel?
>waiting for a witty one-liner from a Russian on 4chan
Yeah, I should get a hobby. Brb.
