Did the American Dream ever really exist?
What about the british dream?
>>60313531
Yes, its still possible you just need to be very intelligent as well as a hard worker
>>60313551
Brazilian dream.
>>60313564
Isn't that just a con though? You can work like a slave and if you're poor to start with you will never reach it, despite the propaganda. the game is rigged.
American Dream is alive and well here in Canada. 89% of new families here ended up moving up in the income ladder after 20 years.
>>60313564
and the resilience to pay off that 100k student loan :^)
also, post the best places in your country to accumulate new money
Did 1950s American prosperity exist for more than a smallish minority? I expect middle-class anglo white americans had a good existence but others - women, blacks, hispanics, Italians, Irish, homosexuals etc were horribly oppressed.
>>60314230
>Anglos
pretty much
also, it wasn't wise to question the American Dream when UK's is worse
>>60313794
>You can work like a slave and if you're poor to start with you will never reach it, despite the propaganda. the game is rigged.
Asian immigrants overwhelmingly achieve those goals though, the parents come to the US poor, barely speaking English and work hard so their children can get a good education and eventually those Asians earn higher wages than the native white population.
Anyone can do it like the Asians do but most people are lazy fucks like yourself who will say "the game is rigged" and not even try to achieve it.
>>60314230
Yes that why they had so many immigrants
>>60313794
>you will never reach it
Why wouldn't you? All you have to do is convince lots of people to take money out of their pockets and put it all in yours.
>>60313564
And rich*
>>60314230
(AS THEY SHOULD BE)
>>60313812
>American Dream is alive and well here in Canada.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>60314377
?
>1920-1960 America
>so many immigrants
>>60314501
>>60314319
proof
income in USA is more tied to how rich your parents are, unlike here
>>60314641
upward mobility, not income*
>>60314319
I'm not claiming Britian is special, that's not the topic.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/social-mobility-alive-and-well-canada
>a sample of a million Canadians from 1990 to 2009 to see how their incomes change
>Over the 19-year period, 87 per cent of Canadians initially in the bottom income group moved to a higher group.
>Put differently, almost nine out of every 10 Canadians who started in the bottom 20 per cent had moved out of low-income.
>>60314762
gotcha
there seems to be a lot more obstacles these days in trying to reach a better existence in America than in the 50s-80s
>>60314872
And in the 80s they elected a folksy halfwit who alowed American jobs to be sent overseas.
bump
>>60317096
>he cares this much about a country he doesn't live in
>>60315312
>tfw I was born rich
>>60317562
your life must be extra shit haha
being a non-rich American is far worse than being poor in majority of other developed countries
>>60314230
Income stratification was quite low in the mid-20th century, but it began growing after 1970.
