Don't Eastern Europeans miss their socialism/free stuff?
>>60067488
Some people definitely do. Some are too young and some don't.
They were so shit that we had slav illegal immigrants back in the day. Think about that.
free starvation for everyone
>>60067488
>free stuff
>>60067488
i sure do miss those great times
we even got great military parades, like in 68th, not like nowadays pussy countries
>>60067572
They only used Turkey as transfer to get to America.
>>60067488
free shit aint free
>>60067488
>free stuff
like what, air?
>>60067488
The old people sure do.
>>60067842
Healthcare, education, food, housing, clothes
>>60067842
Education.
>>60067906
know ur facts before u start talking bullshit
>>60067906
1st, 2nd and 4th are right bot food and clothes weren't free.
>>60067488
all those countries are just as poor as they wer socialist, but they now have to pay for everything.
>>60067963
A socialist system is supposed to provide those things for the people, isn't it?
>>60067488
yes
people were much nicer to eachother and there were no foreiginers
>>60068030
So how the poor managed to not starve/freeze?
>>60068030
>paying 3 cents for 5star menue in fastfood restaurant
>expensive
>>60068068
and islam is supposed to be a religion of peace
>>60068117
Nobody was starving since 50's since wages big enough for food and clothes.
I miss Yugoslavia
>>60068117
nobody starved/freeze. it is all propaganda and myths.
Grey part.
>>60067919
>>60067906
Education is still free, healthcare is free too >taxes
free clothes and food? no such thing
housing? They weren't totaly for free, also you had to wait years for a small apartment, while your neighbour had it immidiately, becuase he had connections in local communistic party.
The same goes for cars- even if you saved money, that didn't mean you could buy it. You had to wait years for it. If you had connections- you culd wait less for car.
Funny how out of all those countries only Russia and Serbia are actually respected in the world today and have strong leaders who aren't slaves to the neoliberalism meme
No. We are way better off now. And lot of shit is still free
>>60068274
>Nobody was starving since 50's
Sure thing, Sirgay.
>>60068117
also you get free car for being good worker like my grandpa did. i believe this car never got broke once, pure perfection.
>>60068470
Poland is thoroughly respected here, though
>>60068436
All true except education was just better and totally free, not it is only partially free, so is healthcare. And now you can't get appartments at all if not taking a loan for 40 years.
>>60068470
Actually Belarus has a good leader too, but are too irrelevant to be respected.
Thousands of Yugoslavs didn't go work to Germany because they had loads of free stuff here.
>>60068504
Yeah, tell me about starving georgians in 60's, or some holodomor in Ukraine in 70's that nobody knows yet.
>>60068470
not respected but feared.
Some people miss employment.
Some people miss how insanely carefree it was.
Some people miss all the parades and cool propaganda.
People don't miss the queues.
Whatever was free back then is either free now as well or you can afford better
>>60068645
You can say that about literally anything, including democracies.
Also the vast majority of those improvements were from socialist countries, so you can thank them as well for that.
>>60068645
I can't afford any appartments at all here.
>>60068717
guess who...
>>60067488
I don't miss a totalitarian dictatorship of the Party bureaucracy, censorship and being a Soviet colony, no
I don't want that kind of socialism
>>60068616
Okay, we did it, life is sort of okay, why we isolate from the rest of the world? All this stupid ideology? Cold war?
>>60068567
Education in Poland is free, you can study for free on national universities, which are majority.
We can say everything was better in the past, but it's very subjective.
Yes, you can't afford an apartment, because of communism. Our wages are lower than in western Europe.
>>60068293
>us flag
>misses YU
if you were living in it now you would hate it
>>60068645
>300€ a month slave.
>>60067488
Yes, not a day goes by that i don't hear my mom yapping about how capitalism has ruined everything and enslaved us all to bankers. How there was no crime back in the day, how the shops would leave products unattended, but no one would dare to steal them.
Also, it was legal to steal someone's car if you return it with a filled gas tank within 2 days.
How the IMF is taking money away from pensioners who toiled and earned their money.
Then my dad tells me.
Son, every government ever is a ploy to steal your heard earned money.
>>60068274
>since wages big enough for food and clothes.
> Net salary 150 rubles
> women's coat 150 rubles
>>60068812
>study for 10 years to be exploited by western europians for 200 € a month.
>>60068857
>i just pulled out of my ass to look cool
fuck off
>>60068857
Okay pidor, just because you cherrypick a woman's coat made out of lion skin with ivory buttons doesn't mean that Russians had low wages.
Not sure if trolling or not, but congrats you made me mad. Now fuck off.
>>60067488
bunch of them do
that is why our economy is in the shitter and I am leaving
>>60068851
>How there was no crime back in the day, how the shops would leave products unattended, but no one would dare to steal them.
There was no murder in Eastern Germany.
...
Officially.
My dad was into occasional smuggling, some neighbors in outright theft (steal in Germany or Italy, sell here).
>How the IMF is taking money away from pensioners who toiled and earned their money.
inefficient government system stole their money
they might worked their asses off, they might slacked - but their political factory was making only losses
>>60068827
I'm a YU immigrant, I left when everything was in a civil war, I just miss Tito
>>60068808
How is this related to what I said? You, дядькa, tend to turn everything into politics to show how libertarian and anti commie you are. Literallt edgelord. I was just saying that starvations after 50's in socialist countries is bullshit.
>>60068812
Well, so I could afford appartments during socialism and now I can't afford it due socialism... ok.
Education is not free here, only students that have good marks in state exams after school can get state payments for their education.
>>60068857
My granpa had 500rub wage and mom's scholarship was 70rub though. And now average wage is 20,000 roubles and the same coat will cost 50,000.
>>60069108
>inefficient government system stole their money
like they even tried to be efficcient
>>60068919
That's the consequence of the communism. Nowadays, you can live in Germany without any problems, but then it would be a big bureaucratic problem and without any connections you wouldn't leave your town, my Russian friend.
>>60069108
I know, and i agree with you, i'm just saying what my mum thinks.
>>60069015
>>60069068
Also a toilet paper has appeared in the USSR only in 1969. Funny
>>60069108
You're such a complainer. What has capitalism done for the world besides degeneracy and cultural Marxism? Your country's probably better off without losers like you anyways
>>60069211
>My granpa had 500rub wage and mom's scholarship was 70rub though
damn boy, i miss those times.
>>60069211
Cheer up dude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJeMrmS3e1M
>>60069318
Need we link the GDP per capita numbers from 1900 and 1980?
>>60069314
Yeah, Russia was always a century back from the west. During commies it became at least like 30-40 years back.
>>60067488
They're getting plenty more free stuff from the EU
Brexit now famalam stop giving square heads free shit
>>60069394
Correlation/=/Causation
Though I wouldn't expect you to understand that concept.
I really envy to USA when many people born in non-relevant countries all over the Earth like its culture and media, want to study in, make a career in its companies, consider as center of the world and probably dream about migrate to.
I envy to american science and technology, of course USSR lagged behind, but not critically.
"Superpower" term is perceived as militaristic empire here so I say that USSR for me is our "USA", that we lost.
Plus my leftist views obligate me to like 1st Socialist state.
t. born in 94'
>Well, so I could afford appartments during socialism and now I can't afford it due socialism... ok.
You just don't know how economic works. Have you ever wondered, why French cashier earns much more than Russian? Same people do the same job, but for different money.
>>60069248
>Nowadays, you can live in Germany without any problems
no, i see lots of problems, homeless people, poverty, people who eat every second day, alcholism, drugs, violence, prostetution, it is just more hidden and nobody says anything "everything is fine".
>>60069211
>500 rub
I guess he was a minister.
>And now average wage is 20,000 roubles
Lies
http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/ru/statistics/wages/labour_costs/
>the same coat will cost 50,000.
Lolwhat, https://www.wildberries.ru/catalog/129/women.aspx
>>60069371
My parents have big enough wage and I can be sure my family is living much better than it would if USSR hasn't fallen so I don't defend commies, I just pointing at some bullshit people tend to talk about those times.
>>60069318
better cultural Marxism than economic one
capitalism has done pretty much every invention besides some military tech innovations like tank protection Arena system that manages to kill an incoming missle, its own troops and maybe infrastructure
>>60069208
i assumed that
my statement still stands
>>60068120
Yeah, and try to find food desu.
My mother told me how she and her family used to stand under shop for hours just to buy bread
>>60069500
name any example of successful marxism/communism
>>60069500
Are you fucking kidding me.
A century ago Bohemia and Austria were on the same level, with other Eastern European regions not that far behind.
Look at Austria now compared to eastern Europe.
>>60069531
>200€ a month.
>>60069531
meant for
>>60069211
>>60069540
For that statement about DDR I would call Polizei and you wouldn't see Germany again.
>>60069587
Oh okay you're just baiting. Got me good there lol
>>60069546
>I guess he was a minister.
No, he was a military colonel. His pension now is 24,000.
>Lies
http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/ru/statistics/wages/labour_costs/
I exxagerated but just a little bit. Median wage here is around 350-400$ that equals 25,000-30,000 roubles.
>Lolwhat, https://www.wildberries.ru/catalog/129/women.aspx
That's not the coat that would cost 120 roubles back then.
>>60067488
choose 1:
>get little to nothing shitty free stuff
>get a lot of good shit but have to work for it
fuck yeah give me that sickle and hammer bby
>>60069717
Блять ты cнaчaлa гoвopил пpo CPEДHЮЮ, a тeпepь cмaнявpиpoвaл
Дa нe тo, тe дepьмoвыe фaбpики paзopилиcь. Hy вoт caмoe дeшeвoe зa 3000 этo и ecть coвкoвoe
>>60069546
pls tell us we dont speak slavrunes.
>>60069664
60 years ago
auatria vs czechoslovakia
>>60069657
Also there was little food
Of course I do. We had (beside free education and health care which we have now as well) free apartments, free cable TV, 1 extra salary a year, free vacations, almost 1 month paid vacation etc. The life now is 10 times worse and still there are people who say Yugoslavia sucked.
>>60069840
Дa y нac дo cих пop в шкaфaх вaляютcя шyбы и дyблёнки coвкoвыe. B 60-e, 70-e eщё нopмaльнo вcё дeлaли. Bcё cкaтилocь в пиздy пpи Бpeжнeвe.
>>60069660
Marxism is never successful, and communism is only so with a dictatorship. See USSR, PRC, Vietnam, etc. All more relevant today than your shitty country.
>>60069664
You're really not getting it, are you? I'm not even going to waste my precious time, keep up the poor behaviour though
>>60069907
yugoslavia is an exception financed by both blocks at the same time no wonder you had money
>>60069907
well yogoslvian economy was like greece today
full of debts and unemplyoment
your parents lived like "kings" form borrowed money
>>60067488
>FREE STUFF
>THEY WOULD OUTSIDE BAKERS FOR HOURS JUST FOR ONE LOAF OF BREAD
>FREE STUFF
>HAVE TO WORK EVERYDAY
>>60069587
Well yeah I kind hate when everything went to shit. Corruption and ethnic tensions, though my family is still I bet poor here from the those last days of Yugoslavia. Under Tito everything was pretty wonderful though, well except for his dictatorship but eh he was barely brutal compare to many in the eastern block
>>60070027
FUCK DIDN'T WRITE WAIT*
>>60069717
>720 $
How much i would digg in pussy if i walk with this hat in russia ?
>>60070017
i wish we would borrow money
we constantly boast about lowest debts, yet we aren't smart enough to use loaning to our advantage
>>60069211
It's true, but "feeding own people" is a duty, not something to being proud.
>>60069971
>Marxism is never successful, and communism is only so with a dictatorship.
Then we both agree. You want bad government system.
>See USSR, PRC, Vietnam, etc. All more relevant today than your shitty country.
Libiya, Siriya, Ukraine and North Korea are all relevant. Pakistan too.
Does not mean they have good living standards.
>>60067618
stupid asukaposter
>typical free apartments
>>60070076
USA, FRA, UK stopped with the help.
Country bankrupted.
Imagine an oil exporting country drying up.
>>60069971
Hello liberal arts student I am here to tell you that Vietnam and most of the ex-USSR shit holes are less relevant than your healthcare, China is more relevant and has a stronger economy than even your shitty country.
>>60067488
Only faggots will miss communism. It fucked Eastern Europe so much that we have to play catch up now
>>60070107
Well, for Russia feeding all people was pretty much an achievement. You like to compare USSR with developed western countries that were centuries ahead of us for half of thousand years before already. Yes Soviet union was shit compared to some Austria or USA but it was peak of russian state. Time when russians had more wealth than they ever had.
>>60070017
False. Yugoslavian debt was like 15% of its GDP. Greece has 170+%. Yugoslavia had a socialist economy, all the companies were owned by people and state. We did not import much, we had our own car industry, military industry, tourism etc.
>>60070174
> + free siberian resorts
>free healthcare
Dentists did not use a anesthesia in the USSR for example.
>>60070229
>he wants to drive a yugo
>you go
>but the car doesn't
It's also not the amount of debt, it's the repay-ability and credit rating.
>>60070244
>1942
>not doing an 4 year physical activity holiday in a gulag
>>60070174
wooden houses are good
>>60070229
actually there was no private ownership of business in Yugoslavia, whoever ran a private shop or something was considered rich and had big connections. Even though there was no import that wasn't a good thing, we were falling back in technology and you couldn't buy things like pepsi or coca cola.
Yugoslavia had it's good sides but economically and for the future of our countries it was bad and was holding most of us from going forward and being more relevant in Europe
>>60069971
>Marxism is never successful, and communism is only so with a dictatorship. See USSR, PRC, Vietnam, etc.
All 1st-gen socialist states more or less copied model of USSR whats why, for example, most of them collapsed/was overthrewed in same time.
>>60070174
Compared to capitalist bananaland it's fine, I guess.
>>60070271
Dantists are so expensive now, I haven't visited any for 5 years already.
>>60070229
so fantastic :D :D
plus milions people abroad
>>60070107
fuck off hohol, everything has to be about you and your idiotic crusade of russophobia.
>>60070271
what are you a pussy ?
>>60070174
After 25 years after USSR and, I think, 40-50+ years after construction it looks good for wooden building.
>>60070420
oh and you forgot no political rights and you couldn't state your ethnicity, religion was banned and if you weren't in the communist party or had no connections you'd find a job harder
>>60070395
You're not capitalist at all.
>>60070409
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>>60070395
corruption and poverty
Communism is a short lived project
>>60070334
Well Yugo is a shitty car. But it better to buy a domestic shitty car, than be a debt slave and who drives a Porche
>>60070547
Of course, TRUE capitalism is only in rich states who had colonies earlier and in their modern sub-colonies.
>>60070432
>>60070174
Asking for a comfier house to inhabitants will counts as hohol russophobia too?
>>60067488
>free stuff
free stuff is fucking miserable everywhere. If you want a good product. you have to pay for it - market works, socialism doesn't
Why did all those countries accept communism?
>>60070594
Eбaннaя плoмбa нa oдин зyб 3к
>>60070760
yalta conference
you were so fucking lucky
>>60070148
I like Rei better but I don't have her smug faces..
>>60070547
State capitalism is still capitalism
>>60070783
Этo нeдopoгo ecли paбoтaть нopмaльнo
>>60070807
>Hitler was Austrian
>Austria was allowed to walk away for free
wew lad, dodged a bullet there
>>60070723
Learn some english before shitting out your propaganda bullshit here
Yugoslavia didn't so much fall apart as give birth to a nation for the Slovenians after 1500 years. Oh, and it produced four non-countries with no culture of their own that need to re-confederate cause they're all exactly the same.
>>60070174
>capitalist apartments
>massive food shortages
>might as well not even exist if not a party member
>nonexistent infrastructure
>no free speech
>no personal freedom
>state-controlled enterprises
>state-organized information vacuum
Sure João, why not
>>60070902
Amin.
>>60070520
>oh and you forgot no political rights and you couldn't state your ethnicity
You could if you were of an actual unique ethnicity (Slovene) rather than ethnically Yugoslav (everyone who spoke the Serbo-Croatian language).
>>60070760
We accepted communism because communists led the struggle for independence, reuniting our lands, dispossessing the last of the German aristocracy, and building up the industry. They did silence some dissent from more moderate parties, but in the end it worked out well and the ones holding us back were actually Yugo communists, not Slovenian ones, who worked to preserve our language and develop our industry and communications (which Belgrade successfully resisted because they were 50 years behind but had all the army).
>>60070902
>didn't have a "nation" for 1500 years
>others are non-countries
>>60070760
3 groups of reasons:
1) Commie parties (more or less powerful in some countries) who survived during nazi or pro-nazi-regimes -
2) USSR authority as strong, successful and liberator (for real)
3) Red Army (Italy-like CIA-managed elections couldn't happen here)
4) Soviet secret police-managed elections
>>60067488
Some elderfags do.
>Back in my day education, healthcare and housing was free
yeah yeah grandpa.
Your shitty education that taught you nothing, healthcare that couldn't detect your diabetes and commie block apartment was free. I'll take whatever I can earn instead, thank you.
>>60069318
>What has capitalism done for the world besides degeneracy and cultural Marxism?
It has significantly improved living standards
>>60071160
You had Croatian communist too in SR Croatia so Janez don't act as a special snowflake because nationalism and national identities didn't exist in yugoslavia
>>60071266
In 1st world countries only
>>60071058
> be a richest soviet country
> turn into war zone with electricity shortages
I don't think lack of free speech was even a big problem considering what happened to georgia later
What's with ex-yugos and Western dicksucking? It's really embarassing 2bh
>>60071160
Yeah but Yugoslavia freed themselves, the others were freed by Russia I guess
Some really old people miss the security it brought through stricter control.
Some young people who were too young to actually remember the Soviet times have a strange nostalgia for it because they played too much Everlasting Summer or some shit.
>>60071058
Funny how Georgia was one of the best parts of USSR with big political and cultural influense and now they teach you about bloody occupation only
>>60067488
Stupid or trolling?
>>60071458
What dicksucking?
Saying that we're poor, and that had we not been under communism we would have done better for ourselves is sucking the dick of the "west"?
>>60071490
you forgot to turn off your proxy
>>60071327
> be a richest soviet country
My parents literally met each other in a bread line in Tbilisi.
> turn into war zone with electricity shortages
All post-soviet republics were equally shitty during the first years of break-up. Natural resources saved you from total starvation.
We didn't have any resources at all, and look at us now. Look at baltic states too while at it
>>60070760
Because Russia killed our political elite, installed a peasant government and made us a satelite state with no saying?
How did Austria escape anyway? Did the Americans get to you first?
>>60069519
that feel when you were born too late to see the CCCP
>>60067488
Yes, fuck capitalism.
>>60071266
Yeah, especially there they get most of resourses and cheap workforce.
1st-gen socstates mined iron, for example, on their own.
So many victims of communism ITT
Tell me, why don't you just admit you hate Russia?
No communism, no Stalin, not for post WW2 rape but you simply hate this country
>>60071579
>We didn't have any resources at all, and look at us now.
what you mean, you are poor af...literally poorer than fucking egypt and other shitholes
>queries: the communism
I think it would be fine now when everyone has a smartphone.
>>60071614
Austria was occupied similar to Germany, however in 1955 the occupation ended but we had to stay neutral and weren't allowed to join NATO. I guess they needed a buffer between the 2 sides
weak b9
>>60071266
Can you name a single successful capitalist country?
USA- bombs middle east and steals oil
UK- the same
France- Bombs africa and steals resources
Capitalist countries simply bomb other countries, steal their resources and call them shitholes afterwards.
>>60067488
>free stuff
>
kys you fucking retard
>>60072035
When did we bomb anyone?
>>60071892
Quality of life increased dramatically in the last 20 years. We aren't wealthy, although that is compensated by the low prices of literally everything. A pack of cigarettes costs like 1.5$ here.
We're also the least corrupt and most economically/politically free in the region.
>>60072128
You invaded.
Same shit.
>>60068829
germany no!
>>60070174
If they bothered to repaint those, they would look good. If they bothered to cleach the curtains indoors, it would look really good.
Not a fan of the dark oil coating used for those fences either.
Greatest failure of Communism is that people need to actually maintain the public property. Instead its made, painted, and then never maintained.
>>60072172
Invaded who?
>>60072218
Everyone around you.
>>60072035
Who did Korea and Finland invade?
>>60072285
AH was long before capitalism mate and has nothing to do with the modern state
>>60071821
Who's not admitting it? You're the worst cancer of the Earth and you always were, with or without gommunism, Stalin and WW2 rape.
>>60072035
Japan
>>60072313
russia
>>60072371
what have slovenia done to you
>>60072141
So why did you kick Saakashvili off anyway?
>>60072128
You didn't, but you took advantage of the situation. Your country bought almost the entire yugoslavian banking sector, and now you make money by giving us loans and raping our economies with high interest rates.
>>60072172
litreally every group of people invaded another what the fuck are you on
>>60072141
I've always considered Georgia as a bro nation. Too bad you are located so far away. If you were geographically closer to balts we would have made europe accept you into EU and NATO.
It is really weird, 20 years ago Ukraine and Balts were in the same place economically and now they come here for easy money. You would have experienced the same growth.
>>60072391
I'll give you that one. And South Korea probably. Also countries with highest suicide rates in the world caused by work stress and insane market competition.
>>60072465
Then why is Slovenia doing well? Don't blame us for the fact that you can't stop killing eachother
Why does /int/ hate the soviet union so much?
>Positive white birthrate
>Strong father authority
>Praised family values
>Strong military
>Criminalized homosexuality
>Protected eastern europe from progressivism
>Anti-zionist
The things going on in Cologne definitely could never have gone on in DDR
>>60071163
>>60071111
>>60072339
Germany and Austria is same thing to me.
Capitalist countries first bomb you, destroy everything and then German/Austrian banks come and buy every company they can.
And governemnts are so cucked that every other bank is not allowed on their market.
Not to mention everyday products and similar crap.
You are literally leechers.
>>60072603
This is not /pol/ man
>>60071327
>be a richest soviet country
what the fuck, man
>>60072655
Should've thought before genociding people then, not our fault NATO bombed you.
>>60072655
I dont know man, I would probably avoid Serbia Bank with my savings
>>60071327
> be a richest soviet country
Those were the baltics.
>>60072555
It's usually how nation relations works. The furthest it is away, the "bro-est" it is. And people view this term only through a single prism: threat
>>60072572
>Also countries with highest suicide rates in the world
It's Greenland, no?
>>60072578
Because they also took advantage of the situation. Read about "ljubljanska banka affair". Slovenians pretty much took all the money yugoslavians had deposited in their bank and simply took it. They are just sneeky mountain jews, just like austrians.
>>60072791>>60072737
baltics and georgians were richest and most free
>>60072782
Its not about banks, 80% of Serbia(almost every larger business) is owned by Austria and Germany now, profit goes there, nothing stays here.
>>60072801
>>60072899
>those evul westeners ruin our COUNTRY >:(
literally arab tier thinking
>>60072437
made proxies available to russia
>>60072800
Your primitive brazilian brain completely misses the point here.Or you are trolling me.
When a deserted snowy wasteland like Greenland has high suicide rate, that's understandable. But when a highly modern civilized and developed country has high suicide rate, then you can argue it's capialism's fault.
>>60072603
Most of people in the USSR had been living in a poverty and died in a poverty.
>>60068567
>And now you can't get appartments at all if not taking a loan for 40 years.
lol
>Russia
I'm 25 and I OWN my own apartment, working after a highschool
>>60073001
I never said you destroyed my country.
I'm just saying how west works, by stealing/leeching on resources.
>>60067488
Most do, except for minorities who are understandably butthurt
>>60073118
you got it from commie grandmother
>>60073031
Anata wa baka desu
>>60072797
Not a fact. I consider fellow balts as super bro tier as well.
I'm 99.9% certain other baltics think of it the same.
We come as a package and share borders.
>>60072859
You couldn't really be free in the soviet union.
We were richest because soviet union tried to keep native populations happy as there was most soviet skepticism. Before soviet union our development was higher than some currently more advanced western european countries.
>>60073001
Well how would you feel if you had worked your entire life, deposited money in the bank, and than the bank just takes your money and disappears?
>>60073174
Nope, working. I only have highschool and work making networks and electricity in houses and companies and sheit
>>60072899
its the same here
what do you expect? when you are investor you should have some profit
>>60073225
And yet balts and georgians were allowed to do more things than russians
>>60068293
>>60073281
>its the same here
it is not
>>60072899
You two, three, four, I don't know how much of you are there, protracting this useless topic of who owns what, should spare yourselves the trouble of going back and forth with "You own us" and "Not our fault you're fiscally irresponsible/genocidal/low IQ" and such. It's a delicate topic and both of these arguments are superficial, especially the Austrian's one. It's childish actually, but what else to expext here
The average westerner will never acknowledge the fact that they live off the rrst of the world. They still live in the school of thought that you can infinitely create, while we love in a world of give and take, causality. Deepen one's pockets, empty another's. The average German will not acknowlege that they bought us out. They introduced capitalistic markets to our fragile system, the "tutorial" nonexistent, the rule of the game theirs. As we will not accept our responsibilities in desperately accepting these terms, or if you will, our sleazy politicians without adequate education/knowledge to apply and maintain these systems and the usual clientelism syndrome prevalent here
The average Austrian will not acknowledge there are freezing Bulgarians every winter because the Austrian companies are skinning the natives for electricity rates. It's "fair" game, and we should be more pissed at our incompetent post-communist turncoats than German/Austrian companies
>>60073281
They bought ex-yu factories for very cheap price(blame the eu shills here), very good factories, and with 0 investment just continued to do business.
They invested shit.
>>60069519
Any chance of a revolution happening in our lifetimes? What about the anniversary next year?
>>60073225
I didn't say it as a fact. You see the start of my sentence being "It is usually"
And one example, Baltic countries as you mention, is not enough
>>60072603
Right-wing memes
>>60073496
>and we should be more pissed at our incompetent post-communist turncoats than German/Austrian companies
Oh no, they are very competent, just look at their cars, houses and yachts.
>>60073450
CS and raifka are austrian, spar is austrian etc.
>>60073522
>very good factories
lol we have these legends about great commie factories too:DDDD
>>60073066
>another stories about USSR from underage retard who has read it on liberal/nationalistic VK groups
>>60073496
I'm not blaming Germans or Austrians for our shittyness. I'm just saying that capitalist economies are based on exploiting others.
We are solely responsible for our situation because we are primitive, lazy and easily corrupted. I just hate when some people shout "muh capitalism" without aknowledging that their entire success is based on leeching off of others.
>>60073759
>e have these legends about great commie factories too:DDDD
are you implying that commie factories were not great!?
>>60073791
https://youtu.be/X82nb2fpIhg?t=119
>>60073759
>CS and raifka are austrian, spar is austrian etc.
yep, because that makes totally 80% german
http://zpravy.e15.cz/domaci/ekonomika/zahranicni-vlastnici-kontroluji-ctvrtinu-ceskych-firem-a-temer-polovinu-kapitalu-992273
better czech your sources before you start talking bullshit, underage kiddo
>>60073838
Our solution is to annex Bosnia
>>60073957
>1992
>>60073930
yes, they were shit....
why you think all of them went bankrupt
>>60074091
Hy дo этoгo oни жили зaeбиcь пoди, типичныe мaнeвpы кoммyниcтoв
>>60074197
I hate when you do that
>>60074074
Interesting article desu.
I would also like to know how many of the Dutch and Cypriot owners are Czech tax dodgers, as these 2 countries are used to do it most often.
>>60073930
name me some product of commie industry that would be competitive on the worldwide free market back then
>>60073066
>>60073957
>>60074197
Boпpoc тoлькo в тoм, чтo paзвaл coюзa, кaк oн пpoизoшeл, нe пpинec нaм дeмoкpaтии, pынoчнoй экoнoмики, пpaв чeлoвeкa, cвoбoды, a тoлькo пpeвpaтил poccию в лaтинoaмepикaнcкyю пapaшy.
>>60074197
What is 90th hyperinflation
>>60074305
we have been producing Yugo cars. I'm not sure if you are aware how awesome that car was
there was no human being on earth who didn't want to own Yugo!
>>60074197
>speaking russian
>>60074380
Пpичeм тyт гипepинфляция, y людeй yдoбcтвa нa yлицe и тpяпки нa пoлy вмecтo oтoплeния
>>60074490
этo pyccкaя бopдa
ктo нe c нaми, тoт пoд нaми
>>60074500
Этo нe caмoe глaвнoe. Cхoдил быcтpeнькo пoкaкaл нa yлицe, и cвoбoдeн.
Цeны в мaгaзинaх шoкиpyют бoльшe.
>>60074434
are you aware of cars that were produced on the west back then?
>>60074305
This always makes me laugh.
MUH AWESOME FACTORIES WITH 1ST REPUBLIC ERA TOOLS
Good enough stuff like Tatra or ČZ survived without problems and both are in Czech hands
>>60074598
plus it was just rebrended fiat with cheap price
>>60074585
>ruski right wing bydlo being banned on 2ch came here to keep shitposting
ok
25 years of being free in Kolyma gold mine is what i call something to miss for, yeah!
>>60074305
There some makeup shit, that was wanted by West. It was recently in the news. Gomie rockets sell too
>>60074718
ты BATHИК cyкa
>>60074800
>gomie rockets sell too
but our president humanitarian bombardist closed them so no fun for us
>>60068293
what part exactly do you miss about it?
the non-stop 45 year long crisis and the fact that government buildings couldnt afford new pens and paperclips?
or was it the whole dictatorship thing and persona-cult where your best chances to win big in life were to have high ambitions about sucking Titos dick?
>>60074585
Why do you always retort to using native lang? Afraid of foreign intervention? :^)
>>60070355
>it was bad and was holding most of us from going forward and being more relevant in Europe
as sad as that sounds, without Yugoslavia, we're completely irrelevant and unknown in Europe.
>>60074989
Russkie 2ch refugees can't into english
>>60074947
It's union of our countries which we miss. We are very close nations and we have strong feelings towards each other, it's logical that we should be part of the same country
>>60074989
> always
only when i'm talking with my fellow countrymen
>>60075078
No homo
>>60075078
desu Yugoslavia could only work if what happened between us for the past 3 centuries didnt happen
in this universe it is impossible and no matter what anyone fetishises about we have sealed our fates to never be unified again so theres that
even in Josip ''brotherhood&unity'' TItos Yugoslavia, and im saying this seriously objectively, there wasnt as much unity as you would get the impression when reading about SFRJ
like i said its simply impossible to ever make it due to how much hostility was exchanged for the past 300 years, otherwise its a nice idea to fantasize about not necessarily with the communism element
We have socialism free stuff.
So now dust settled down and we agreed that it is Russian fault can we discuss how Internet and technology would help communism, and ask ourselves whether Uber-like platforms are beginning of anarcho-communism or not?
Missing the good old times when entire population of republic was exiled in a timeframe of two weeks, a week, even a day.
The good times, when green caps came knocking on your door during night and threw you into the back of Black Maria.
When you father went missing while leaving from work and was only heard after two years, when he was allowed to write home that he's been sentenced with article 58 and is currently imprisoned in Karelian labour camp and have a healthy weight of 32kg's while being 180cm tall.
>>60075588
He was a big guy
