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Old thread >>60043139
who /proxyfunposting/ here
>>60055103
>>60054993
It's a classic case of Albanian nationalistic wewuzism
The only thing Albos share with Arvanites is a common basis in a dialect that those people don't even use nowadays
>tfw have to share border with muslim turks and orthodox turks
>>60055159
But that means they have common roots.
>>60055159
>implying greeks are not the same
didnt you fuckers officialy accept that vlachs from Greece(aromanians) are just greeks who learned a "barbaric latin"?aren't you fuckers paying them a pension of 300euro if they declare themselvs as greeks?
>>60055133
Me
Why don't you hate this
>Hungarian qt
Yet?
>>60055291
i think that might be basescu's propaganda since he cared for aromanians only when the elections were near
i saw a protest on youtube when they demanded that romania leave them alone
>>60055319
a girl like that could puke and pee on me and i wouldn't be grossed out
>>60055353
You are dumb.Stop speaking.
>>60055319
moar
>>60055291
First of all
Calm your fucking tits
Secondly, they accepted the fact that they consider themselves Greeks and part of the Greek nation
There were nomadic Greeks that spread out into the Balkans and there were Greeks that settled in Wallachia/Romani
Whether or not they're Romanians or not, I don't know
But they consider themselves Greeks, you should ask someone who is a Vlach in Greece, he should answer you
>pension of 300euro
No
>>60055319
I don't
>>60055401
>>60055372
>>60055418
Whatever it happens
>Romanians and Serbs want to invade thr village of this Hungarian qt
>>60055410
>There were nomadic Greeks that spread out into the Balkans and there were Greeks that settled in Wallachia/Romani
Now this is just fantasy.
>But they consider themselves Greeks, you should ask someone who is a Vlach in Greece, he should answer you
Ofcourse that after 1000 years of force assimilation they do.And the few left vlachs in Greece(180k) are being forced to declare themselvs greeks.
And arvanites are most likely albanians too, I hate albanians, but its the truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvanites
>>60055382
He's not speaking
He's posting
Good morning all.
>>60055410
you are prolly slavic desu go back to zour roots maaan
>>60055500
Are you that kid who posted obvious make propaganda as a source?
>now this is just fantasy
There are examples of nomadic Greek populations
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarakatsani
>
Ofcourse that after 1000 years of force assimilation they do.And the few left vlachs in Greece(180k) are being forced to declare themselvs greeks.
No record of anyone being forced to do anything
buttblasted kiddo
>this is the truth
And Albanians are Illyrians, sure...
>latin exams tomorrow
>Few hours left to read
>Cant leave 4chan
HELP
>>60055602
I'm 100% black nigguh
>>60055806
πανελληνιες?
>tfw you'll never hatefuck this slut while eating her Nutella in a high priced Monaco suite during the GP weekend
do i get kosovo, albania, serbian or slovenian flag (isp is slovenian) while posting from kosovo?
>>60055922
A SHQIP
>>60055922
you only get albanian or serbian flags if you're on kosovo
>isp is slovenian
lol what
>>60055813
BILI SMO SAMARTI
BRE
>>60055922
>a fucking eagle
>>60055922
Hi Skafander, how are you?
>>60055743
>There are examples of nomadic Greek populations
I dont care.And Sarakatshdhfhg != vlachs
>No record of anyone being forced to do anything buttblasted kiddo
Oh really?Then how come that every non-greek populations always disapear from censuses while greeks are growing bigger?Greece had 400k vlachs , now only 40k exist.Fucking vermins.
There is no such thing as vlachs being greece, as romanisation in Greece is impossible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jire%C4%8Dek_Line
But where did the vlachs in Greece come from?
According to the famous Byzantine Chronicle,Strategikon of Kekaumenos (1066), the Vlachs of Epirus and Thessalia came from north of the Danube and from along the Sava. [25]
"[The Vlachs] never kept their word to anyone, not even to the ancient Roman Emperors. Having been attacked in war by Emperor Trajan and having been defeated totally, they were subdued and their King, named Decebal, was killed and his head was put on a pike and brought to the city of the Romans. These [Vlachs] are, in fact, the so-called Dacians, also called Bessians [Bessoi]. Earlier they lived in the vicinity of the Danube and Saos, a river which we now call Sava, where the Serbians live today, and [later] withdrew to their inaccessible fortifications. Relying upon these fortifications, they feigned friendship and submission to the ancient Roman Emperors and then swept down from their strongholds and plundered the Roman provinces. Therefore, the exasperated Romans crushed them. And these left the region: some of them were dispersed to Epirus and Macedonia, and a large number established themselves in Hellas." [24]
>>60055993
skafander means ski suit in makedonistani
>>60055922
Better question is what flag would a transnistrian poster bear?
>>60055875
Ναι
https://youtu.be/mTRs89ZAMgU
>>60056010
I wuz Vlach!
My surname is Surla, it has no suffix -ić and it means nothing in serbian outside of trunk (elephant's nose) which makes no sense since there are no elephants in balkans so i assume its romanian(vlach) in origin
>>60056020
here it means scuba diver
>>60055806
>έδωσε ενα σωρό λεφτά για φροντιστήρια αντί να παει να βγάλει πασσαπορτι, να πάρει το kωλοχαρτο του απολυτηριου kαι να φύγει απο Grekistan
Noooooooo dudeeee
>>60055993
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_diving_dress
>>60055653
I want to spray two cans of raid inside that shit and then duct tape it.
This triggers me.
>>60056116
δε kανω λαντζα στας γερμανιας
Θα γινω εδω νομιkαριος kαι θα βγαλω πολλα λεφτα
>>60056071
Most serbs in Timoc are just vlachs.
We have romanian SÚRLĂ meaning a flute, used in the army.
>>60056010
Influence != Ethnicity
They estabilished themselves in Hellas and eventually lost their Vlach characteristics, only some isolated areas opting for somewhat keeping the language
And remember, there were a shitton of Greeks in Wallachia, some of those people emigrated back to the new Greek nation and brought the language they learned there
Stop being so assmad kiddo
We didn't oppress anyone, they just assimilated
>>60056010
remove seajew
Duri şi-a noastrâ-arâvdari!
Pânâ când, o, Doamne Mari,
Va si-avemu noi arâvdari
Fraţľi-a noştri Greţ si-ľi taľi?
Taľi-auşi, ficiori, muľeri,
’N focu l-arucâ-a loru fumeľi,
Biseriţ, căsi, sculii aspargu,
Cărţâli-armâneşti ardu.
Voi, griţeşti Disputadz,
La biseriţ zboru bâgaţ,
Bandiţ di Greţ, voi anviţaţ
Armâńi pri-tu căľiuri vâtâmaţ.
Nu-i chirolu-aţelu ţi ştiaţ
Cu blâsteami s-n-aspâreaţ!
Di-afuriseri nu n-aspâremu
Câ tora ţi hiţ vâ videmu.
Cari-i fapt di dadâ-armânâ,
Nâinti cu arma a lui tru mânâ –
Tra s-veadâ bandili griţeşti
Ţi potu inińili-armâneşti!
>>60056071
Are you from Timok, komshija?
What does the average romanian think about Greece?
>>60056219
>They estabilished themselves in Hellas and eventually lost their Vlach characteristics, only some isolated areas opting for somewhat keeping the language
I dont care, for this greeks will pay.Even today, greek government paying the vlachs from Greece, and especially the 300k from Albania to identifya s greeks, for 380 euro/month.
http://www.rfi.ro/articol/stiri/social/ce-nu-v-ati-declarat-grec-eu-nu-pot-sa-fiu-tradator-neam
>And remember, there were a shitton of Greeks in Wallachia, some of those people emigrated back to the new Greek nation and brought the language they learned there
Not even close, most were in Constanta, and numbered 3.170 in 1913.
>>60056219
can confirm i have fanariot blood running through my veins ahaha
>mfw my ancestors were responsible for fucking romania over
whatchugondu RROMaboys lmao
prostagma?
>>60056218
>>60056242
i live in syrmia, my father is from banat
we have ancestors that were at military frontier in croatia for hunders of years
>>60056329
malista
>vlachs itt
Ewwww
>>60056329
Voulome Hesvole
>>60056381
ettimi
esto
>>60056338
man there are alot of vlachs, in Yugoslavia thereare maurovlachs and istroromanians and extinct krkovlachs
Maurovlachs were all assimilated, istroromanians almost alll, and krkovlachs gone extinct.
>>60056310
>in 1913
That's the thing
The new nation of Greece popped up much sooner, so they had no reason to stay there
>http://www.rfi.ro/articol/stiri/social/ce-nu-v-ati-declarat-grec-eu-nu-pot-sa-fiu-tradator-neam
TOTALLY NOT A BIASED SOURCE AND I SHOULD 100% TRUST IT
>I dont care, for this greeks will pay
We have nothing to pay for gyppo, now go eat your food or else mommy will get angry
>>60056338
>Banat
Well, Vojevodina has its own Romanian minority, so entirely possible.
>>60055653
wtf happened?
>>60056310
You are deluded,stop reading nationalistic romanian blogspots
>Greek state paying anyone anything
you are so distant from things here,you dont know how funny this sounds,bydlo
>>60056430
vouforvos
>>60056500
dritomos
>>60056443
>>60056499
No one cares about your 3k greeks from Romania.
>TOTALLY NOT A BIASED SOURCE AND I SHOULD 100% TRUST IT
yes, the actual vlachs from Greece and Albania are lying for romanian nationalists.
http://eudo-citizenship.eu/news/citizenship-news/582-the-politics-of-numbers-and-identity-in-albania
" According to them, this might be exploited by Greece, which has been offering pensions and travel benefits to Albanian citizens who declare themselves Greeks."
"The Greek consul in Korça was reported to have called on Albanians and Vlachs/Aromanians in the city to register as Greeks in the upcoming national census, a call that was considered provocative by Albanian politicians (read more here)."
>>60056575
Σταματά ρε μαν να απαντάς στον γυφτo-τρoλλ
gata cu cacapostarea provinciali nenorociti
>>60056575
>On the other hand, many Albanian intellectuals
>Albanian intellectuals
>>60056664
who cares, stop changing the subject.The greek government has a forced assimilation policy.
>>60056600
is mahin
>>60056575
The modern Greek nation is the result of a Greekophone elite imposing its culture on others.
#deathtoseajews
>>60056696
>implying we haven't assimilated others throughout history
>>60056696
Just because Albanian """"""""""""""""intellectuals"""""""""""""""""" say so?
No it doesn't kid
Fuck off from /balk/
>>60056729
Shouldn't you be fighting for some Chechens now?
>>60056758
That greeks are offering 390 euro pension to vlachs from Greece and Albania, to declare themselvs as greeks, is a fact,testified by actual vlachs living there.
>>60056790
Nice sources
We barely have money for pensions anyway
>>60056663
>pic related, average pure breed bucurestean
>>60056717
SHH
HO
>>60056816
Isn't inflated pensions one of the reasons why you're in debnts right now?
>>60056575
This is about northern epirus you godamn nationalistic gyppo
Go read some stuff about the region and stop busting our balls with your delusions
>>60056842
t.cucdelean cucuit de bozgori
>>60056842
Doesn't Tranny-sylvania have the highest amount of gyps?
>>60056853
In which Aromanians are a minority as well, orthoturk.
>>60056816
Sources are the ACTUAL vlachs themselvs, who were interviwewed.
>>60056845
Yeah, for the public sector
Not to """"""""""""""""""""""""forcefully"""""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""assimilate"""""""""""""""""""""""" anyone
tri moreta
>>60056926
ти гo кaзa, хaнe
>>60056905
>However, the largest Aromanian group in Greece (and across the world), the Pan-Hellenic Union of Cultural Associations of Vlachs in Greece,[42] has repeatedly rejected the classification of Aromanian as a minority language or the Vlachs as a distinct ethnic group separate from the Greeks, considering the Aromanians as an "integral part of Hellenism".[44][45][46]The Aromanian (Vlach) Cultural Society, which is associated with the fringe figure Sotiris Bletsas, is represented on the Member State Committee of the European Bureau for Lesser Spoken Languages in Greece.[47]
Get rekt laddie
>>60056983
КPУME БE :@
>>60056902
If vlachs living there self identify as greeks...there is nothing you can do about it pecheneg
I was talking about the greek minority who has problems under a legit oppresive state like albania.It is a historical crime Greece doesnt have northern epirus today.
Ивaн Cycaнин
17:28
Fuck NATO. NATO is a bunch of U.S.' bitches. Ukraine doesn't need to be in NATO because Ukrainian army is best in Europe, and Ukraine has direct military partnership with U.S. Only Ukrainians know how to fight against Putler's armored cavalry of Mongoloid Buryats. Without Ukraine, Europe would be conquered by Putler's military in two weeks.
Kroumopoulos, Great King of the Greeks, destroyer of Tatars
>>60057000
>Pan-Hellenic Union of Cultural Associations of Vlachs in Greece
>Pan-Hellenic
>in Greece
Wew, certainly unbiased and not with government support.
>>60057037
>a legit oppresive state like albania
They have more rights than Albanians in Greece and aren't being forcefully assimilated, just contained.
do some Greeks call alexander iskander just like us arabs and persians ?
>>60057000
yes, this is what Im talking about.1000+ years of assimilation and interbreeding plus the forced assimilation resulted in this.Half-greek mutts working for the government as aromanians , declaring themselvs greeks.
>>60057151
Oricum n-avem ce face. Pe statul roman il doare in cur pana si de daco-romanii din afara granitelor(Timoc, Ucraina etc), daramite de aromani.
>>60057114
>albanians
>forcefully assimilated
You can say that we forcefully shoo them, but only if one is half-Greek half-zerg do we consider him a Greek
>Wew, certainly unbiased and not with government support
We have nothing to gain if 100.000 people don't consider themselves Greeks
Yet they do
And the Vlachs I've spoken to, also do
>>60057123
No, we call it Αλέξανδρος, Aleksanthros (th as in the)
>>60057151
People that obviously don't care about Romanians anymore
It's not our fault vlachs assimilate so easily
>forced assimilation
Again, no proof
>>60057123
No,he is megas alexandros here
But we are aware of the name iskander
https://youtu.be/Bw1uFvzmpx4
>>60057277
proof itself is in the fact that aromanians are almost extinct, and that greeks are forcing a faked history while also paying the vlachs.
>>6005640
Μην γινεσαι kαkος ανον kαι εμεις ανθρωποι ειμαστε.
>>60057114
>They have more rights than Albanians in Greece and aren't being forcefully assimilated, just contained.
Once again you dont know shit about greek reality or what happens in albania,i am really sad about the state of your mind
Keep dreaming about living in a kanun regulated albo moumtain with your subhuman friends lmao.Till they cut your head
>>60057151
Once again gyppo
Nobody forcefully assimilated vlachs
Nobody pays them,you dont even realise how funny that is.The Greek state is not capable of such things,turkey albania bulgaria even romania could do it,but not here.You need bydlo countries to act like that,greek foreign policy is sweden tier
What sexual fantasies does /balk/ have?
I dream of a girl coming and kidnapping me, bringing me to her sexual dungeon while she ties me up on a comfy bed spread like an eagle, gags me, blindfolds me, then proceed to tickle me, suck my dick, suck my toes, all while she is touching my body with her pantyhose clad legs.
>>60057388
>greeks are forcing a faked history while also paying the vlachs
Again no sources, and highly improbable that we're giving free money to people for that kind of reason, especially right now
>aromanians are almost extinct
Well, it's because their language is useless here, if they don't want to teach it to their children, it's not my problem
We tried to keep it alive, but...... They just didn't listen
Generally, the use of the minority languages has been discouraged in Greece,[41] although recently, there have been efforts to preserve the endangered languages (including Aromanian) of Greece.
Since 1994, the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki offers beginners and advanced courses in "Koutsovlach", and cultural festivals with over 40,000 participants—the largest Aromanian cultural gatherings in the world—regularly take place in Metsovo.[42] Nevertheless, there are no exclusively Aromanian newspapers, and the Aromanian language is almost totally absent from television.[42] Indeed, although as of 2002 there were over 200 Vlach cultural associations in Greece, many did not even feature the term "Vlach" in their titles, and only a few are active in preserving the Aromanian language.[42]
In 1997, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe passed a resolution encouraging the Balkan states to take steps to rectify the "critical situation" of Aromanian culture and language.[43] In response, the then President of Greece, Konstantinos Stefanopoulos, publicly urged Greek Aromanians to teach the language to their children.
>>60057277
>You can say that we forcefully shoo them, but only if one is half-Greek half-zerg do we consider him a Greek
Ah right, Arvanties were 100% Greeks, amirite?
>We have nothing to gain if 100.000 people don't consider themselves Greeks
Because you already assimilated a shitload of them, Greece as a nation state maintained itself by assimilation and population exchanges.
>And the Vlachs I've spoken to, also do
Which are assimilated. ))
>Again, no proof
Even Aromanian folklore talks about Greeks suppressing their culture and forcing them to have Greek liturgy and school.
''Biseriţ, căsi, sculii aspargu,
Cărţâli-armâneşti ardu.
Voi, griţeşti Disputadz,
La biseriţ zboru bâgaţ,
Bandiţ di Greţ, voi anviţaţ
Armâńi pri-tu căľiuri vâtâmaţ.''
>>60057498
>greek reality
I don't care about Greek delusions.
>>60057545
lmao why are you fighting on 4chan?
it's not like you can change their minds lmao
Is this another "let's blame everything on Greece" episode?
>>60057498
>Nobody forcefully assimilated vlachs
Firstly, by not acknowledging them as a separate ETHNO-linjguistical group, means you are forcefully assimilating them.
>Nobody pays them,you dont even realise how funny that is.
The testimonies are from actual vlachs from Greece.No reason to lie.
>>60057545
>Well, it's because their language is useless here, if they don't want to teach it to their children, it's not my problem
its hard to teach when Greeks do not recognise their right and barely build 5 vlach schools thoroughout whole Greece.
>In 1997, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe passed a resolution encouraging the Balkan states to take steps to rectify the "critical situation" of Aromanian culture and language.[43] In response, the then President of Greece, Konstantinos Stefanopoulos, publicly urged Greek Aromanians to teach the language to their children.
hahaha jewish greeks
but how about you build own schools*institutions?
>>60057551
It is not delusions poor fuck,stay there contained in austria and keep being a jerkboo to albania and bulgaria,disconnected from fucking reality.
Few days ago some albos beheaded here another albo cause of their kanun tribal shit you admire so much
Kill yourself pecheneg man
>>60057709
wjy i podrak a tus kuz grekoi
>>60057747
Το μουνι της μανας σου λολ
Φερε πισω τα ασημιkα
>>60057819
Top kek
>>60057551
Look Austriaisis, this argument will just keep going around and around and around
Nobody is convincing anyone of anything
I've already told you why Arvanites are Greeks
and how Vlachs consider themselves Greeks
And frankly I don't care about an already assimilated minority that doesn't even think of it self as different from Greeks
The autist is just dragging on the conversation because "we wronged him"
>>60057689
>its hard to teach
No it's not, you don't need schools to teach a fucking language, just speaking the language in front of a developing infant is enough
Why should we waste money on schools that nobody will go to?
>>60057709
>staying(=/=working) in Austria for a few months
>poor fuck
Want me to send some sandwiches in humanitarian aid? )))
>Few days ago some albos beheaded here another albo cause of their kanun tribal shit you admire so much
Weren't they Greeks? Or does that only apply when it suits you?
>>60057388
Greeks are like that with all the minorities.
>no they are not bulgarians they are slavophone greeks, greeks who happen to speak a slavic dialect
>no they are not albanian, they are arvanites, greeks who happen to speak an albanian dialect
>no they are not aromanians, they are greeks who happen to speak a latin dialect
>>60057819
i;,m drunk lmao
>>60057878
Exactly, seajews being seajews.
>>60057878
Stfu albo
>>60057878
>t.Greek that speaks Bulgarian
>>60057878
You are a buffer state with expiration date
Enjoy }}}}
>>60057878
>no they are not bulgarians
Shqip detected
>>60057864
Northern Epirotes don't act like niggers, and they don't behead others.
>>60057878
Nobody ever said we consider Vlachs to not be ethnic Aromanians, it's just that they've been here so long, they're just barely a linguistic minority
Arvanites never considered themselves albos from the get-go, just local Epirotes who had to learn Albanian in order to make do with the Albanian Muslim influence in the area
>>60057859
Seems that you turks dont want to understand.
The rights im talking for the aromanians are universal in every democracy.In a country where you are considered GREEK and your language "barbaric latin" the assimilation is at extreme.
>>60057878
this.Even the turks there are considered muslim converted greeks.
>>60057990
>Nobody ever said we consider Vlachs to not be ethnic Aromanians
No, you dont.You dont consider the vlachs in Greece as aromanians but as greek speaking barbarian latin.
>>60058006
Pomaks in Western Thrace are mostly muslim Bulgars
Nobody denies that
>boo hoo hoo people in a country assimilated with no issue and absolutely no violence
WOW
WE'RE FUCKING CRIMINALS MAN
>>60058061
Nobody said that
You're just pulling facts out of your ass
DAILY REMINDER THAT THE GREEKS EVEN TRIED TO GREEKIZE BULGARIANS WITH THE USE OF THE CHURCH:
In 1762, St. Paisius of Hilendar (1722–1773), a monk from the south-western Bulgarian town of Bansko, wrote a short historical work. It was the first work written in the modern Bulgarian vernacular and was also the first call for a national awakening. In History of Slav-Bulgarians, Paissiy urged his compatriots to throw off subjugation to the Greek language and culture. The example of Paissiy was followed by a number of other activists, including St. Sophroniy of Vratsa (Sofroni Vrachanski) (1739–1813), hieromonk Spiridon of Gabrovo, hieromonk Yoakim Karchovski (d. 1820), hieromonk Kiril Peychinovich (d. 1845).
Discontent with the supremacy of the Greek clergy started to flare up in several Bulgarian dioceses as early as the 1820s. It was not until 1850 that the Bulgarians initiated a purposeful struggle against the Greek clerics in a number of bishoprics, demanding their replacement with Bulgarian ones. (1/2)
>>60058103
By that time, most Bulgarian clergy had realised that further struggle for the rights of the Bulgarians in the Ottoman Empire could not succeed unless they managed to obtain some degree of autonomy from the Patriarchate of Constantinople. As the Ottomans identified nationality with religion, and the Bulgarians were Eastern Orthodox, the Ottomans considered them part of the Roum-Milet, i.e., the Greeks. To gain Bulgarian schools and liturgy, the Bulgarians needed to achieve an independent ecclesiastical organisation.
The struggle between the Bulgarians, led by Neofit Bozveli and Ilarion Makariopolski, and the Greeks intensified throughout the 1860s. By the end of the decade, Bulgarian bishoprics had expelled most of the Greek clerics, thus the whole of northern Bulgaria, as well as the northern parts of Thrace and Macedonia had effectively seceded from the Patriarchate. The Ottoman government restored the Bulgarian Patriarchate under the name of "Bulgarian Exarchate" by a decree of the Sultan promulgated on February 28, 1870. The original Exarchate extended over present-day northern Bulgaria (Moesia), Thrace without the Vilayet of Adrianople, as well as over north-eastern Macedonia. After the Christian population of the bishoprics of Skopje and Ohrid voted in 1874 overwhelmingly in favour of joining the Exarchate, the Bulgarian Exarchate became in control of the whole of Vardar and Pirin Macedonia. The Bulgarian Exarchate was partially represented in southern Macedonia and the Vilayet of Adrianople by vicars. Thus, the borders of the Exarchate included all Bulgarian districts in the Ottoman Empire.
The Patriarchate of Constantinople opposed the change, promptly declaring the Bulgarian Exarchate schismatic and its adherents heretics. Although the status and the guiding principles of the Exarchate reflected the canons, the Patriarchate argued that “surrender of Orthodoxy to ethnic nationalism” was essentially a manifestation of heresy.
who /feeling like a million bucks/ here
>>60058103
>>60058134
Daily reminder that the Bulgarians tried to do the opposite during WW2
>>60058101
>You're just pulling facts out of your ass
Aromanians in Greece are not considered a separate ethnic group.
>>60058103
>>60058134
I ahd shitton of articles on my old hdd, Ill try to find them.
Oh boo fucking hoo
People in the Balkans tried to assimilate other people in the Balkans
What's fucking new?
Every big player in the Balkans has done it
Even you Romanians, you little angels, you
Crying about it now like the little victims you are won't do you any good
At least we weren't complete assholes during occupations of other countries
>>60058335
oh shit nigger
don't start again
>>60058061
They are known as vlachs and they know they are vlachs
Aromanian is an unknown word
>>60058392
ain't nothing to it my nigga
just relax
>>60058335
hey jorge
>>60058392
>Even you Romanians, you little angels, you
no
>At least we weren't complete assholes during occupations of other countries
neither were we
>>60058421
I dont care of what they are known as.The greek government answered: vlachs = linguistic group and NOT an ethnic one.Basically, greeks who were romanised.
>>60057878
This is true.
However it has its base on the idea that the Greek nation state was basically created from scratch.
There was no cohesive except for the orthodox faith.
of course all those people would consider themselves Greek or better Rhomioi since that basically meant non-Turk.
>>60058421
Too bad vlach is an exonym, you faggot. They call themselves armânj.
>>60057544
>What sexual fantasies does /balk/ have?
sex with my wife in the missionary position while looking in each others eyes meaningfully
yeah im pretty sick
>>60058472
What are Szekelys?
What are Moldovans?
What are Ukrainians?
What are fucking gyppos?
SO, at first we have bulgarians in traditional clothing.
>young.
>good looking
>white.
>based thracian blood in the middle.
>smiling.
>not retarded romanians.
Soooo...
We are the bad guys because we peacefully assimilate various "non Greek" ethnic groups?
>>60058557
Yes
We're HUGE assholes
Dey gud bois, dey dindu nuffin
>>60058522
>What are Szekelys?
They are 12th century immigrants.Even more, they have all the rights, except territorial autonomy.They have highschools,colleges,even allowed to use hungarian in their official documents.
>What are Moldovans?
Romanians living in Moldova.
>What are Ukrainians?
Immigrants imported by Stalin.Stalin also stole North Bukovina and R.Moldova from us.
>What are fucking gyppos?
subhumans.
hi nignogs anyone wanna suck on my ding dong ;[
>>60058542
and then we have.
An ethnic romanians in traditional clothing.
>not white
>a grandmother at 30 yo
>filthy
>fat and ugly
>never smiling
>small parasties already spawned.
>retarded romanians.
>>60058542
>>white.
>>60058557
its the greek mans burden to civilise the savages they just dont understand
>>60058557
>peacefully
>>60058542
They look like gypsies. No wonder since bulgarians are actually t*rks with gypsy cum in them.
>>60058677
Stop stealing copper
Thanks
>>60058673
Dude we even give them 300 € pensions.
You can't get more peacefully than that.
>>60058695
my dad keeps telling me about some ex gf of his has qt daughter, and how they made a deal that we will get married when we are older
that's fine and everything but those retards unironically expect me to approach her and make her my gf
>>60058621
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1848%E2%80%9349_massacres_in_Transylvania#Massacres_against_the_Hungarians
>we were never assholes against them
>Even more, they have all the rights, except territorial autonomy.They have highschools,colleges,even allowed to use hungarian in their official documents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarians_in_Romania
Well, they are about 1.2 million in your nation
You did it out of necessity
Whereas there are barely 100.000 Vlachs who already speak Greek here, so THERE'S NO NEED TO GIVE THEM SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE RIGHTS
https://youtu.be/sXYx5S2_r40?t=1m12s
lmao look at those proud bulgarians picking up change from the ground
>>60058557
>peacfully
you tried to carry on genocides on every other ethnicities but you are so retarded and incompetent that it never worked.
Even today there are villages speaking bulgarian in northern gayreece and you can't do shit about it.
>>60058795
>Inb4 secret agents assasinate minority activists
Wouldnt be surprised if gyppo propaganda said stuff like that
Fools
>the masters of genocides in the greater region are calling us savages
>Greeks still haven't killed anyone that didn't do ill against them
>>60058840
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1848%E2%80%9349_massacres_in_Transylvania#Massacres_against_the_Hungarians
But in 1848 revolution , Hungarians wanted to annex all Transylvania.And even more, those massacres were done by hungarians themselvs
"The 1848–1849 massacres in Transylvania were committed in the Hungarian Revolution of 1848" , by Lasoj kossuth.
Dont talka bout hungarians, they have genocided and magyarised millions of romanians.
>>60058891
Stick a quran yp your arse serdar
You are not to talk here
>>60058934
And I care because?
Playing the victim card won't get you anywhere
>>60058991
There is no victim card here.Never did romanians romanianise(there is not even such term) or genocided anyone.
>>60058840
if "greater" hungary was full of hungarians as they claim then those massacres wouldn't have happened
>>60058482
The Phanar Greeks used their influence in the Ottoman Empire(both through its merchants and its clergy) to greekize other Orthodox populations.
>>60058840
Keep in mind that all our significant minorities are in territories that we got after WW1. The Romanian state in the beginning was ethnically homogenous as opposed to the Greek state.
>Whereas there are barely 100.000 Vlachs who already speak Greek here
Because a lot of them were assimilated even before the creation of the Greek state.
>>60058850
a comment
>Correction. The beggars weren't Spanish. They are Romanians, which are many in Madrid downtown. The scarves on their heads reveal their ethnicity. I never met a single Spanish woman who gets dressed like that. Get informed before you say anything.
>romanians
KEK
ARE ROMANIANS THAT RETARDED?
>>60058891
The only people we somewhat systematically genocided were Turks and Jews
> Moldova : 40 churches, a church for every victory
> ottoman district of D*brogea : 1095 mosques, a mosque for every prayer
>>60059034
>woman proudly displaying bulgarian flag on her skirt
>somehow romanian
don't delude yourself turkshit
>>60059046
Nice coins in that previous pic
Were they looted shekels from the oppresed minorities?
>tfw the only nation in the balkan that never commited a genocide.
>>60059125
what about serbs genocided by b*lgarians?
please stop with the history bs
>>60059113
another commet
>brainless Duch hooligans and brainless Romanian gypsies.
Scum outside Spain.
fucking pigs make that fucking show in holland or romania not in Spain.
WELL ETNIC ROMANIANS who happen to be ALL gypsies are THAT RETARED.
Suck it, gyppo!
Can someone answer what the average Romanian thinks about Greece?
Not your personal opinion,be a neutral observer of the average opinion
>>60059113
I'm LMAO'ing @ him life since he has posted those two pictures.
Those Bulgarian girls are obviously not white but they consider themselves Bulgarian and patriotic, whereas the Romanian gypsy family visibly respects gypsy customs and legit doesn't consider itself white.
>>60058645
Also
>never smiling
Not an argument. Better than a fake smile.
>retarded romanians
Not an argument either.
>>60059125
That's taking it too far, Georgi; but your nation wasn't created through genocide as in the case of Greeks, so it's all good.
Btw, why do you write Georgi instead of Gjorgi? Where did the 'eo' for 'jo' meme come from?
>>60059125
What about the Greeks genocides by B*lgarians
>>60059030
First of all, it's Hellenize
And the Phanars were ardent freemasons
>in the beginning was ethnically homogenous
Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>as opposed to the Greek State
Well, Greeks were the majority in the Greek state, and in the subsequent gains, it remained the grand majority with small pockets of minorities here and there
>>60059119
Boogar/Make coins
>>60059237
Genocided*
>>60059234
>Where did the 'eo' for 'jo' meme come from?
From the fact that Bulgarians are gullible and insecure so they have thought about having their name confused with the Albanian Gjergji.
>>60059204
>he takes his information from youtube comments.
you took stupidity to another level. Congrats
>>60059267
In the beggining(meaning before hungarians), ransilvania was almost entirely formed by vlachs.Unlike greeks,(who are just the orthodox leftover from Greece), we actually have our own ethnicity.
>>60059204
clean the turk cum from your eyes tigane
>>60059315
And the modern Greek state consisting of islands, the Peloponese and some parts of Attica was almost entirely formed by Greeks, we actually have our own ethnicity
It's so ez to be a woman today btw desu senpai lad baka
>>60059302
It sounds more like a wewuzromanz meme like 'ea' for 'ja'.
>Well, Greeks were the majority in the Greek state,
Sure they were, after assimilating the co-existing ethnicities.
>Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What considerable minorities did we have in the Danubian Principalities except gypos?
>>60059362
No such thing as greek today, you are just the orthodox inhabitants, romaioi.
>>60059237
>>60059158
never happened.
Stay mad, nigger-turks-gyppos.
DAMN, FEELS GOOD NOT TO BE A GENOCIDER UNLIKE THE GAYREEKS!
>>60059400
Forgot to link
>>60059267
>Well, Greeks were the majority in the Greek state,
Sure they were, after assimilating the co-existing ethnicities.
>Sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What considerable minorities did we have in the Danubian Principalities except gypos?
>>60059406
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surdulica_massacre
fucking bulgarian subhumans killing serb bros
>>60059316
>>60059310
erase your gyppo genes, you begging nigger.
How come ROMAnians are such retarded stealing-clay gypsies?
What happened?
Hungary gave them infrastructure, Moldova gave them culture and they turned out to be a total failure.
>>60059468
>Serb bros
They're such bros, especially with our Timok brethren.
>>60059405
Just taking a look at the history you can understand that neither Greece nor D*brogea are very different from Turks.
>>60059523
i thought you liked serbs
wtf is going on
>>60059523
Timok has 5-10% Romanian population IIRC.
>>60059541
Serbs, not Serbia. Geopolitically they are not our bros.
>>60059405
>romaioi
That means Romans, and guess what, it comes from the Byzantine Greeks who called themselves Rhomioi, but also recognized the fact that they were part of the Greek ethnos, since being Roman was a titular name by then
>>60059447
>What considerable minorities did we have in the Danubian Principalities except gypos?
Slavs
What considerable minorities did we have in the new Greek state?
>co-existing ethnicities
Like?
>>60059468
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surdulica_massacre
>only 2k-3k
>A FUCKING GENOCIDE
wew lad.
fuck off, nigger.
Its nothing compared to what your gyppos did.
But i forgive you, as a noble man, i must forgive your lowness and stupidity.
Go steal something, gyppo!
>>60059509
>mfw bulgarian subhumans ran away like cowards to avoid conscription and ended up here
>>60059362
It also had greek refugees from islands,crete,macedonia [failed greek revolution],even from cities like constantinople and smyrna cause of turkish brutalities
It was pretty homogenous,but still it was a fucking small shit kingdom in 1830,a destroyed land from warfare
200 years later i see we lost northern epirus,gradually losing cyprus from the roaches and needless to mention the loss asia minor,pontus,constantinople
It is a shame
>>60059581
There are no reliable censuses and they are being forced to adopt Serbian names and have both school and church in Serbian, so...
>>60059612
>Slavs
uw0t? Be more specific, what slavs?
>Like?
Albanians, Vlachs, Jews, Turks, Bulgarians. :^)
>>60059612
Everyone from Greece territory , including the minorities(who constittuted the bulk) were called romaioi.
Greeks ethnicity is based solely on religion.
>>60059712
> including the minorities(who constittuted the bulk)
No proof of that
>>60059705
>Jews
Mostly in northern Greece
The small numbers of Jews in southern Greece either fled or were killed in the Siege of Tripolitsa
>Albanians in southern Greece
No such thing back then
>Turks
Barely, only in administrative matters and high classes
>Bulgarians in southern Greece
What are you smoking Chechenlad?
>>60059509
you seem to be mad. Did a superior daco-roman fuck your mother and sister at the same time?
Hey, guize, i almost stepped on a romanian today.
Luckily i felt his gypsy stench and moved away. I managed to take a picture of him tho!
Today was a good day!
>>60059867
Excellent post
>>60059895
Don't feed 9gagkid
>>60059812
>small number
sure, sure.
>no such thing
sure, sure
>barely
sure, sure
>>60059812
>No proof of that
its actually in the censuses, including those done by ottomans.
For example, it is well known that vlachs constituted the largest minority in Greece and evne had funded for a short perio,d Tesalo-Wallachia.
Seems that b*lgarians are very feral today. Take your Prozac lads and stop chimping out and shitposting so bad.
>>60059705
>>60059712
Have you actually ever read anything about our modern history you fool gyppos?
You dont even know the basic stuff,the timeline and yet you talk retards
>>60060073
>this triggered
give me your gypo tears
>>60059913
fuck off, nigger, he will feed me if he want to.
>everyone calls everyone gyppos
is this a new meme?
>>60060106
Sorry,i thought we were having a serious discussions
>>60060073
We haven't read Greek propaganda on the subject if that's what you're asking.
>>60060119
Be, b1lgare, be. Why do you write 'eo' instead of 'jo' in Georgi?
>>60059939
GREAT ARGUMENTS MY FRIEND
YOU HAVE WON THE WHOLE DISPUTE
>>60059953
I see a shitton of censuses in your post
Plus, Wallachia of Thessaly ceased to exist in the coming years...
I wonder why...
>>60060154
>Be, b1lgare, be.
Almost puked,you autistic fool
Why do you Be,are you a sheep?
>tfw I acknowledge the superior romanians
Im a bulgarian who just moved to Romania , along with my sister.My sister is right now being breed by romanian studs.
>>60060172
>I wonder why...
no need to wonder why.
>>60060214
Oh yeah
Because they're a transhumant people that MOVE all the time
Maybe that's the case...
>>60060197
Calm down, orthoturk. It's a Bulgarian interjection like Serbian 'bre' or English 'oi'.
>>60060154
>1
Where did you learn that you autismo?
>>60060154
>Georgi
Sounds better.
OK!??!
>>60060247
yes, they decided they no longer want to stay where they were majoritar, and suddently immigrated.
>>60060259
moq zemlq, moq b1lgariq )))) Gotta know neighbor's memes.
>>60060292
>sounds
You only write it differently, you still pronounce it as 'jo'.
>>60059234
Maybe georgi is the correct pronounciation? Also I'm guessing the spelling is taken directly from church slavonic which is taken directly from gayreek
>>60060255
we use bre too in west and south bulgaria
>>60060412
>migrates like a roach
>calls anyone a t*rk
hmmmmmm
>>60060348
Also, the fact that the state existed implies that the vlachs there were no longer nomadic.
>>60060435
makke Ѓopѓи seems more logical, altho second g should be normal
>>60060493
>here were no longer nomadic
and most importantly in majority.
>>60060514
Deci au avut si ei un soi de descalecat?
>>60060435
Your country's name comes directly from Greece too ,alexandre
>>60060348
>>60060514
Look up what Transhumant is
>majority
The whole revolt was initiated by Vlachs AND Slavs, and those populations were later destroyed after the Despotate of Epirus swallowed Thessaly, thus effectively ending any type of majority that existed there, and since Thessaly is a mountainous region, that doesn't mean the Vlachs stopped being transhumant, just that they stayed around that area
>>60060412
No we don't
Гeopги. There is no jo. We replace it with harder O.
Гьopги sounds faggy.
>>60060564
da
>>60060579
>Look up what Transhumant is
irrelevant.What is relevant is that they funded a state.Transhumant people dont fund states.
>The whole revolt was initiated by Vlachs AND Slavs
What revolution?
>>60060587
Not iotification, b1lgare be. gjor-gi, not g'-or-gi.
Can you vocaroo how you pronounce it?
>>60060579
re file ti prospathis na apodiksis
>>60060623
In 977 Byzantine Thessaly was raided by the Bulgarian Empire. In 1066 dissatisfaction with the taxation policy led the Aromanian and Slavic population of Thessaly to revolt against the Byzantine Empire under the leadership of a local lord, Nikoulitzas Delphinas. The revolt, which began in Larissa, soon expanded to Trikala and later northwards to the Byzantine-Bulgarian border.[7] In 1199–1201 another unsuccessful revolt was led by Manuel Kamytzes, son-in-law of Byzantine emperor Alexios III Angelos, with the support of Dobromir Chrysos, the autonomous ruler of Prosek. Kamytzes managed to establish a short-lived principality in northern Thessaly, before he was overcome by an imperial expedition.[8]
Following the siege of Constantinople and the dissolution of the Byzantine Empire by the Fourth Crusade in April 1204, Thessaly passed to Boniface of Montferrat's Kingdom of Thessalonica in the wider context of the Frankokratia.[9] In 1212, Michael I Komnenos Doukas, ruler of Epirus, led his troops into Thessaly. Larissa and much of central Thessaly came under Epirote rule, thereby separating Thessalonica from the Crusader principalities in southern Greece.[10] Michael's work was completed by his half-brother and successor, Theodore Komnenos Doukas, who by 1220 completed the recovery of the entire region.[11]
>>60060623
Both of those states were founded by Greek lords, the vlachs/slavs just constituted the bulk of the revolting armies
Which eventually were swallowed up
>>60060678
Οτι ο πληθυσμος εkει 'περα δεν υπαρχει πια
>>60060654
no mic madafaka. Lo siento.
>>60060664
Οτι ο πληθυσμος εkει 'περα δεν υπαρχει πια
>>60060678
that's wrong bulgarians never raided byzantine lands, only happened in revenge raids
>>60060678
nigger thats in Bulgary not in Tessaly.And Caloian Ioanitsa hismelf was vlach.
Niketas Choniates tells us that Isaac II Angelus, in order to raise money for the wedding with the daughter of King Bela III of Hungary, levied a new tax which fell heavily on the population of the Vlach Haemus Mountains.[2] They sent two leaders (Peter and Asen) to negotiate with the emperor at Kypsella (now İpsala) in Thrace. They asked to be added to the roll of the Byzantine army and to be granted land near Haemus to provide the monetary income needed to pay the tax. This was refused, and Peter and Asen were treated roughly. Their response was to threaten revolt.[3]
>>60060746
>Both of those states were founded by Greek lords, the vlachs/slavs just constituted the bulk of the revolting armies
>greek lords founded it
>it has romanian name
fuck off hypocrite turk
https://youtu.be/1LnqXZXcMRc
Ξερετε ποιος ειναι εkεινος ο ηθοποιος που ζουμαρει η kαμερα;
Οχι ο βουτσας,ο αλλος
>>60060778
So, do you pronounce it as Ge-or-gi? Or as Geor-gi? Because if it's the second, it still turns into jo.
>>60060812
so is you sayin we is good bois who din do nuffin?
>>60060797
nai enow oti den exei simasia
den alazei oi gnomi tous
>>60060842
LARISSA IS A PART OF THESSALY YOU FUCKING RETARD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larissa
THAT'S A DIFFERENT REVOLT YOU'RE POSTING
>>60060842
>Nikoulitzas
kek, just noticed
The only good seajew is a dead seajew.
>>60060842
>And Caloian Ioanitsa hismelf was vlach.
>>60060949
So far you hate us for retarded reasons
Fuck off Mujahideen
>>60061011
I don't hate you, I just have disdain. ))
>people are seriously answering to the discount Hurley-from-Lost-clone roma diaspora and Copperfendi
>>60061054
Yet you choke on Bulgarian cocks the second you get the chance, even though you have fought a war with them
Nice one there Vlad Draculecov
>>60061011
He is a pecheneg wannabe bydlo
Craves for albanian cum in his tribal mouth
Kanun certified cum
>>60061083
Well you gr**kroaches always start shit you hypocritical seajew.
>>60060678
>>60060934
>Nikoulitzas Delphinas
>Its not romanian name Niculitza
But how is your source affecting Tessaly-Wallacahia?
Face it,Greece had alot of vlachs, and most "greeks" in Tessaly and surrounding areas, are just vlachs.
balgaria dvaise chitarnaise
>>60061108
>le war
Because I am not a patriotard that thinks my country is always right? )))
>>60060875
It sure turns in jo but it's away from being a clear jo.
Йoaнa - Joana. The jo is clear and distinctive. It sounds soft.
Гeopги - O. ;Гe-opги- The jo is dominated by the O. So it sounds harder. We emphasize on the O.
>>60061122
I know who he is
>>60061154
Thessaly-Wallachia exists because of that revolt
>Greece had a lot of vlachs
Had, they've been replaced by Greeks
>and most "greeks" in Tessaly and surrounding areas, are just vlachs
Just because of a shortlived state that was eventually destroyed and most of its population who was part of the revolting army that made it happen killed?
Great logic there Tiganescu
>>60061252
vlachs =/= romanians
>>60061252
>Thessaly-Wallachia exists because of that revolt
where is this proved?
>Had, they've been replaced by Greeks
This is in greeks manuals.The census when Greece was under ottomans, showed around 400k greeks, today just 160k left.It is estiamted that around 2 million greeks have vlach ancestry.
>>60061289
by etymology, vlach = romanian.
>>60061252
Thats not him,i know how Bin Laden looks like
>>60061148
I'm just lurking the thread without participating, you underage shit
Gtfo off balk now
>>60061184
Ah, I get what you mean. We also write it with an 'eo'.
Btw, except 'jo' and 'eo', we also have 'ja' and 'ea'. Did/do you have it too? For 'ea' we used big yus in Cyrillic, not sure for what sound big yus was used for in Bulgarian before '45.
>Big yus was a part of the Bulgarian alphabet until 1945. However, by that time, in the eastern dialects the back nasal was pronounced the same way as ъ [ə]. Because the language is based mainly on them, the western pronunciations were deemed unliterary and the letter was removed.
>There are some Bulgarian and Macedonian dialects spoken around Thessaloniki and Kastoria in northern Greece that still preserve a nasal pronunciation: [ˈkə̃(n)de ˈɡrẽ(n)deʃ ˈmilo ˈt͡ʃẽ(n)do] ('Where are you going, dear child?').
>>60061332
>It is estiamted that around 2 million greeks have vlach ancestry
Nice estimates I'm seeing
>Thessaly-Wallachia exists because of that revolt
Well, maybe because the map you showed me and the revolt fall in similar years
Oh yeah, and this
> Kamytzes managed to establish a short-lived principality in northern Thessaly, before he was overcome by an imperial expedition.[8]
>go to the grocery store
>see that qt cashier I like
>deliberately get into the longest line just to look at her
>she even smiled at me
Fuck me if this isn't some effendi-tier shit.
>>60061482
Show her your benis.
>>60061289
The essence of Romanian identity is copper stealing,sewer living,being shitty immigrants and whoring their women
I know these people very well,i see them here.
>>60061457
>Well, maybe because the map you showed me and the revolt fall in similar years
the map is an estimation of the regions of south-east Europe,from the french academy, based on writtings.
>Kamytzes managed to establish a short-lived principality in northern Thessaly, before he was overcome by an imperial expedition.[8]
the principality was destroyed, but the people continue living, as proof even today they exist.This is basic analogy, only turks lack it.There were alot of vlach cities destroyed in Greece and Albania.
Even existed a Moravia-Wallachia in Czechia and Poland, who even today have populations there.
>>60061391
give examples of what you have and ill tell you if we got it same.
>>60061561
Didn't greeks use to rule Wallachia and Moldavia in Ottoman times?
>>60061571
so are you saying vlachs were the gypsies of the balkans and eastern europe before the real gypsies came?
>>60061654
DELETE THIS
>>60061571
Ba, avem vreun prenume cu 'ea' in loc de 'ia'?
>>60061633
Lemme think a bit.
>>60061654
Phanariote Greeks, yes. And they were jew tier faggots.
>"[The Wallachians have rebelled because] of the terrible sufferings they are caused by the union between the native boyars and those who have for long been sent as rulers and legislators of this people." - T. Vladimirescu to the Porte
>>60061662
no, due to migration period, when Dacia was overcomed by alot of barbarians, many migrated in nearby regions, especially in mountains.
In Bulgaria, especially, they have breed alot of women :)
>>60061482
suck her titties in front of everyone and rub your clitoris at the same time.
>>60061482
>if luv was a grime
>>60061482
>on 4chan: gorilla who fucks greek ass
>irl: a scared kitten that can barely face a 5/10 f2f
Toplmaoingkek
>>60061571
Well the map bases itself on the Vlach/Slav revolt that created the short lived nation that fell
>the people continued living
Only a percentage of these peoples since they were eventually killed since the revolt had failed
Meaning that them being the majority ceased by then
>>60061716
Andreea.
>>60061791
>Well the map bases itself on the Vlach/Slav revolt that created the short lived nation that fell
false.Dont talk if you dont know.
>Only a percentage of these peoples since they were eventually killed since the revolt had failed
Meaning that them being the majority ceased by then
keep your false accusations for yourself.
>>60061770
>scared kitten
Do you expect me to pick her up at the cash register?
>>60061720
by they have breed a lot of women do you mean their women were raped by bulgarians, cumans, pechenegs, greeks, albanians, rus, mongols and magyars?
>>60061817
>false
Let's see here
A vlach/slav revolt in Thessaly makes a small state that eventually fails, and around the same time the map shows a Vlach state in Thessaly...
Fucking retard
>keep your false accusations for yourself
I'd suggest you try the same
>>60061654
Yes,needless to mention thats where the first act of the 1821 revolution was
Our heroes died there though,the sacred band lost
R.I.P.
Pretty sure these romanian fartasses were pussies who didnt even support us
>>60061720
the bulgars who came to balkans were mostly warriors, probably not a lot of women there so they probably did breed with vlach women, you are right
>>60061856
Small talk would be a feasible scenario maybe?
>>60061633
Oh yeah, Andreea as opposed to Andreja. Same thing as the 'o' in Georgi with the 'a' here.
>>60061770
i'm the gorilla who fucks greek ass, not the beta cuck who falls for autistic girls who work as cashiers
>>60061482
I hate grocery store expeditions. I wish they could ship the life support supplies directly to my neet 1room apartment dad kicked me out to.
It's especially bad if the cashier is qt like in that one case where she was new and very talkative and made me spill spaghetti, groceries and even my wallet's contents as i desperately tried to make it all end and and leave with my purchase.
I will immigrate and settle in Romania
Time to revive the phanariote administration.
>>60062096
>dad kicked me out to
why the fuck would your dad kick you out? did you kill a person? this isn't norway or USA where parents kick their kids are because they know they're filthy rich and can afford to live in an apartment or their own house
>>60062048
You have once again revealed your identity, Reddiт
>>60062118
Right there with you
Anyone named Tudor there will be thrown in a massive cesspit
>>60062229
:^)
>>60062259
Ειμουνα σιγουρος :ρ
>>60062207
Too much autism and neetdom. Family had another apartment gathering dust and roaches. It became my exile.
>>60062155
>omg i saw a qt girl she was so butifel i stood in line to see her beautiful face and she smiled at me it was so romantic
Where the fuck do you get your balls calling me a kid after explaining your pussy ass behavior just now, kid?
>>60062096
>neet
where do you get money from
>>60062259
No mercy to tudor traitorescus ))))
>>60062118
>>60062259
Sorry to disappoint, seajews, but Romanian authorities do not accept sandwiches as bribes. ))
>>60061898
>A vlach/slav revolt in Thessaly makes a small state that eventually fails, and around the same time the map shows a Vlach state in Thessaly...
Yet again you are wrong.The Tessaly-Wllachia was not a small state, but a very big one,a s can be seen on the map.Its not coincidently also called Greater Wallachia.It existed from XII to XIII century, so 100 years, dumb turk.
>>60061912
you are not the on-ogur turkic bulgars, but you got the name from them because they ruled you.
>>60062326
Its a love/hate family thing. Can't live with them anymore but doesn't mean I can't leech from them. Going out to pay bills is still suffering though. Wish I could automate it.
>>60061958
yes, the pronociation is the key.
Its harder. The bulgarian is a lot more harder as pronociation and soundning compared to serb/croat. Even when something is meant to sound soft. Like Люпкo - Liupko (Љyпкo). It sounds like Lupko but with softer "u".
Dunno how to explain it tho.
>>60062447
you're having it good 2bh
can you do this forever, though?
>>60062361
>no macedonias
letrashman.jpg
>>60062328
Tudor's actions in the meanwhile had destroyed his alliance to local boyars. He had started wearing the kalpak (a tall, cylindrical, black leather hat; see Ottoman Clothing) reserved for the Prince, and demanded to be addressed as Domn ("Master", "Prince"; cf. Domnitor) - moving away from subordination to the landowners' cause.
The meeting between Ypsilanti and Tudor brought a new compromise. Tudor considered himself liberated from the provisions of the January agreement, as Russia was now an enemy of the Etaireía; Ypsilanti tried to persuade him that Russian support was still possible. The country was divided into a Greek administration and a Wallachian one, with Tudor's declaring itself neutral in the face of large Ottoman armies preparing to cross the north of the Danube. Ottoman actions had been prompted by Russian threat of intervention in Wallachia.
Tudor's army retreated towards in Oltenia in May, as the Ottomans occupied Bucharest without meeting resistance. Tudor was no longer capable of maintaining the discipline and cohesion of his own troops, some of whom had resorted to robbery.
We could've done it, yet he backed out
>>60062361
Thessaly IS a small state
You're the retard in this situation
And yes, it existed from the 12th century to the 13th century
BUT ONLY FROM 1199-1201
In 1199–1201 another unsuccessful revolt was led by Manuel Kamytzes, son-in-law of Byzantine emperor Alexios III Angelos, with the support of Dobromir Chrysos, the autonomous ruler of Prosek. Kamytzes managed to establish a short-lived principality in northern Thessaly, before he was overcome by an imperial expedition.[8]
>>60062489
>tfw b1lgarbrat has no mic
>>60062502
Absolutely not. I'll starve to death if they cut my money for some reason. I'm too autistic to even sign up for for some gypsy tier job let alone attempt to slime my way through to some sort of welfare (which is doubtful).
Always love that highway to hell song. Always thought it'll be more fun though.
>>60062489
>''''done it''''
No thanks, you seakike. Tudor wanted a native boyardom, not wewuzromaioi greek autismo.
>>60062565
>And yes, it existed from the 12th century to the 13th century
>BUT ONLY FROM 1199-1201
are you retard?Greater Wallachia /Tessaly-Wallachia existed for 100 years.
Bout to jerk it on some good blacked porn desu.
>>60062645
>welfare
50lv a month.
2bh you should try illegally moving to the west where neetdom is a possibility.
This thread is a funny shitposting one.
Btw what are you doing to celebrate Glorious Conquest guys?
>>60062752
It existed from the 12th century throughout the 13th century
That means it could've been 1199-1201
You are the retard who thinks it was 100 years
>>60062745
Dumb tribal provinciali
>>60062645
just devote yourself to a life of crime, huge possibility of getting rich and huge possibility of going to comfy prison with 3 meals a day and a chance to have friends you autistic fuck
>>60062887
sm1rt za g1rcite
>>60062962
Allahu akbar
>>60062962
why do you do that 1 thing for ъ? only turks do that because turkish ъ is i and i = 1
>>60062890
because its really dirty and naugthy. You never beated it to interracial porn?
>>60062771
>degenerate porn
>tfw fapping exclusively to trap shit for years
how do i break that curse
>>60063018
weak b8 2bh
>>60063015
Because I am using basic latin script. What would I use instead of 1?
>>60062867
>It existed from the 12th century throughout the 13th century
yes
>That means it could've been 1199-1201
HAHAHAHAAHAHA what a retard mong.The map shows the regions from 12 to 13th century that existed CONTINUOSLY.If it lived for just 2 years they wouldn't have represented it.This is the problem with today "greeks".You are indirect proportion in intelligence with the ancient greeks.
in fact, the revolt in Tessaly is in 1066, that of Berivoi, Niculiță și Slavotă , and this does not lead to creation of any state, just acknowledgement of economic and military priviledges of vlachs.
>>60062831
What are you doing?
Do you still dress as mehmets and do erdogan parade carnivals?
https://youtu.be/jWLzOth2YfA
>>60063120
u or a
>>60062962
Skatoroumane , pissa kai poupoula stis poutanes sas
>tfw Bulgaria had the strongest Medieval state excluding the ottamans.
>>60063121
Careful with the copper overload
>>60063180
Meh, I prefer it to be distinct. Just like ch/4 for ч and sh/6 for ш. It's confusing for me when Bulgars or Serbs do shit like
>use c for both ch and ts(c)
>use j for both j(short i) and zh or z for both z and zh
etc
>>60063208
Αμα δωσεις ενα πενηνταριkο σε μια Ρουμανα απο την χαρά της θα χεσει πανω στη σημαια της για να σε ευχαριστησει
>>60063301
bulgarians don't do that
j = zh
c = ts
ch = ch
we don't have that autistic c = ch and j = y shit like serblets
>>60063121
>he revolt in Tessaly is in 1066, that of Berivoi, Niculiță și Slavotă , and this does not lead to creation of any state, just acknowledgement of economic and military priviledges of vlachs
That was the first revolt
The second revolt lead to the creation of that state, which survived from 1199-1201
Even if that state somewhat "survived" by then, it was later swallowed by the Despotate of Morea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5TuZniO5wU
>LITERALLY ALL OF THE COMMENTS ARE FROM BUTTHURT ALBANIANS
>>60062779
>50
Exactly. Even if I somehow fulfill what i assume would be billion conditions the state will provide me with just enough so as to buy a sturdy rope to off myself on.
Moving to a more neetfirendly country is a pipe dream that among others requires extroverted non autistic personality.
>>60062937
I bet my virgin ass you've committed more crime than me, anon. I'm pure.
>>60063379
I associate y with Russian ы which in Moldovan Soviet Cyrillic represents î(ex: Pyмыния -> Rumynija). I think your equivalent would be the 1j.
>>60063589
Pyмъния = Rumuniya
>>60063385
>The second revolt lead to the creation of that state, which survived from 1199-1201
I told you to stop with the false accusations.Even more, the 1999 UNSUCCESFFUL "revolt" is a irrelevant phenomen, does not speak of vlachs or even something that links to vlachs.They simply established a very small state in Northern Thessaly, for 2 years, which is irrelevant.
What is more important, is that Beniamin of Tudela, a rabin, traveled to Greece in 1186 and related that Pelophones and Tessalia , were called, for hundred of years, Meyaly Blahia("Greater Wallachia").Between XII and XV, the romanian element was so spread in Tessalia, that it was called officially Meyaly Blahia;Etholia - "Small Wlalachia"; Epir - Vlahiot Country; Moesia - White-Wallachia.
>>60063663
Little yus in Romanian Cyrillic/ы in Moldovan Cyrillic/î in Romanian Latin =/= ъ.
>>60063750
Big yus***
ѫ(Romanian cyrillic)=ы(Moldovan cyrillic)=î
and has no Bulgarian equivalent
ъ(both Romanian and Bulgarian cyrillic)=э(Moldavian cyrillic)=ă
>>60063720
>>60063720
And the only proof of a state that was almost always in Byzantine control/hands is a rabbi?
This is the Byzantine Empire during 1180, no Greater Vlachia there
Reminder that Thessaly was repopulated by southern Greeks and Roumeliote Greeks during the subsequent wars with Turkey
Vlachs were a minority there after the Palaiologean dynasty and now they are barely 100.000 SPEAKERS
It's not my fault Vlach women enjoyed Greek cock
Stay mad kiddo
>>60063720
Forgot image
>>60064052
>And the only proof of a state that was almost always in Byzantine control/hands is a rabbi?
No, all the GREEK sources at that time, starting with 1250 call ALL Thessalia "Greater Wallachia" .
>This is the Byzantine Empire during 1180, no Greater Vlachia there
Because untill 1250 to XV Is officialy(in documents) as Greater Wallachia, before it was de facto known as Greater Wallachi.
>Reminder that Thessaly was repopulated by southern Greeks and Roumeliote Greeks during the subsequent wars with Turkey\
Not something to be proud.Alot of greek personalities were vlach.But greeks replaced them with orthodox turks aka greeks today
>>60064191
Then if Greeks are Orthodox Turks
Then how come the oh so racially pure Thessalian Vlachs are not Orthodox Turks?
They also mention it as a district, not as a state
>a lot of Greek personalities were vlach
*vlachophone
>>60064367
>*vlachophone
Vlach is a ethical group, unlike greeks who are just the orthodox populations speaking greek,before the greek state.
>hen how come the oh so racially pure Thessalian Vlachs are not Orthodox Turks?
vlachs only marry other vlachs.
>>60064488
>vlachs only marry other vlachs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're SO in denial
>unlike greeks who are just the orthodox populations speaking greek,before the greek state
And the Greeks just magically disapperead then?
Answer: No they didn't, they just killed, expelled, and breeded out the minorities
And the term Greater Vlachia was just for the Vlachs living there, and even your map shows their migratory patterns from Epirus to Thessaly and then later being a minority in these areas
Are there racially Vlachs amongst us?
Sure
Are most of the Vlachs though nowadays Greek and consider themselves Greek?
Yes
Then why even argue, kid
It's obvious they prefer us over you, so why even bother
>>60064743
>You're SO in denial
This is what you sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYOy1tuVv3w
Vlachs have their own laws.Even marrying vlachs from other villages is not allowed.
>It's obvious they prefer us over you, so why even bother
vlachs are not romanians(daco-romans) but aromanians(thraco-romans),leftovers from balkan roman collonies.
Obviously they prefer greeks because:
1.aromanians have no state
2.greeks are richer than Romania
3.They get alot of cash benefits
>And the Greeks just magically disapperead then?
No, they just forcefully assimilated the "minorities".
>And the term Greater Vlachia was just for the Vlachs living there
My map shows the population.That Megali Wallachia existed as a state since 1250 to XV is a fact, attested even by greek scholars, see Χρισοβουλος (bulla aurea) but we can find more sources too If I bother
All the population from today Tessalia are vlachs.
>>60064980
It was never exclaimed as an oficially recognized state that was even barely autonomous, we don't care since it was swallowed up much later
>>60065105
Nope
The population of Thessaly is 230.000 people and Vlachs are estimated to be 100.000 people and officially 38.000 people
It's mathematically impossible
>>60065236
>The population of Thessaly is 230.000 people and Vlachs are estimated to be 100.000 people and officially 38.000 people
>there are people THIS dumb
Didnt I already prove that greek grekonised every non-greeks from Greece already?There were 400k vlachs in Greece before the Greek state.
>It was never exclaimed as an oficially recognized state that was even barely autonomous, we don't care since it was swallowed up much later
and I dont care if it was or not.Fact is.Tessaly-Wallachia existed and Tessalia was called Wallachia for hundred of years.Deal with it.
>>60065483
>400k vlachs in Greece before the Greek state
Get rekt kid
>Didnt I already prove that greek grekonised every non-greeks from Greece already
No, since there weren't many non-Greeks in the foundation of the Greek state
>>60065785
>posts a map that says "The vlachs from 1769" and presents it as a study during Ottoman Empire
>source: A.I.Koukoudis, 1997
fuck off vermin.
>>60065954
He's a Greek-Vlach historian
The whole region of Thessaly/Epirus was never under full vlach control
You fuck off with your retarded biased propaganda
>>60065785
>No, since there weren't many non-Greeks in the foundation of the Greek state
kek
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?143233-Vlach-rulling-class-in-Greece
>>60066006
>He's a Greek-Vlach historian
a greek*.
>The whole region of Thessaly/Epirus was never under full vlach control
Yet it was called Greater Wallachia for hundreds of years, even in GREEK documents.This shows who controlled it.
>>60066081
>4 people
>1 is half
SO MANY PEOPLE OMG XDDDDDDD
>>60066143
>hundreds of years
>even his sources don't state that
>a greek*
Nope he's a Greek-Vlach
>>60066228
Not 4 people, read the whole thread.In fact, most of your personalities were vlachs.
No such thing as greek-vlach.Vlachs are the speakers of a vlachic dialect.He is a greek with some distant vlach origin, parading himself as vlach to discredit vlachs.
My sources state very well that Tessalia is vlach 100%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Aromanians
In these times, their migratory lifestyle earned them a bad reputation. In 980 emperor Basil II conferred the dominion over the Vlachs of Thessaly on one Nicoulitza. The Vlachs in Thessaly and parts of Macedonia became very numerous during the 11th century revolt of the Vlachs in 1066 under their chieftain Verivoi, as attested by the Byzantine historian Kekaumenos, would provide total independence. As Kekaumenos records, a first revolt against imperial rule occurred in 1066, but it was not until after the collapse of the Empire in the Fourth Crusade that the Vlachs would set up their own, autonomous, principality - "Great Wallachia".[1] The chronicles of Nicetas Choniates, Benjamin of Tudela,[2] Geoffroy de Villehardouin, Henri de Valenciennes, Robert de Clary, and other sources account for the existence of this state, comprising Thessaly, as opposed to other two "Wallachias",
