What were the best things about the Soviet Union?
That it ended
They used the Yoshi's Island song for their national anthem, that's pretty cool.
Red Army Choir
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3scgW-aghr4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0tw3g88JtWA
>>60028629
The collapse was cool
90's gangsters in Eastern Europe were cool af
Communism and Stalin
Free apartments
free education
free medicine
cheap public transport
developed air transport
no starving people
no oligarchs
stable life
I WANT IT BACK!!!
>>60029002
you just described a welfare state, idiot
>>60029002
>no starving people
>>60029048
then glorious ussr was a welfare state
better than a capitalistic liberal prowestern shithole (""""""""""Russian Federation"""""""")
>>60028645
nigger
>>60029002
me too russbro(
>>60029102
russia is a shithole for the same reason china is
communism's afterbirth are assholes
Tetris was neat.
>>60029137
> for the same reason china is
western evil corporations exploiting working people?
yeah i agree
>>60028645
First post best post
>>60029002
>>60029102
So basically"free stuff" made it great? That's the only thing you care about?
I wonder what it's like living a life as such a loser tbqh.
>>60029178
t. nazist
>>60029176
china has become less of a shithole exactly because of that "exploitation" (read: wealth)
russia is shielding itself from wealth and is already poorer than china even per capita
the average russian is poorer than the average chinaman even though there are 1.37 billion chinamen
>>60029002
>no starving people
>>60029002
>no starving people
What did they mean by this?
>>60029283
This, from Canada..?
>>60028629
Famines.
>>60029176
and your retardity is causing shit for us as well
we should be the hong kong reaping the benefits from a big, dumb, poor shithole
but no, you have to fuck it all up
>>60029419
Huh?
>>60029286
practical vehicles
>>60029358
>>60029412
t. my ukrainian mail bride mother told me it was ebil regime
>>60029283
> So basically"free stuff" made it great? That's the only thing you care about?
Free apartments, welfare, free education is for first world. Oligarchs, pure market economy and social-darwinism is for 3rd world.
When american spies destroyed my glorious homeland we turned into 3rd world capitalistic shithole
>>60029592
>t. my ukrainian mail bride mother told me it was ebil regime
Literally a shithole that everyone who was semi-talented/successful at anything tried to flee from.
>>60029592
>Free apartments, welfare, free education is for first world
Why would I want free things at the expense of my salary when I can provide a service to the world and buy them myself?
You're also making the (incredibly false) assumption that the government can provide better quality education at the expense of your taxes better than the Free Market can. Which is quite false.
>>60029504
>driving russian "car"
better kill me.
>>60029176
your a dorable
>>60028629
Vladimir Putin will resurrect the Soviet Union. Taking back Crimea is only the beginning. We will always be a pro-Russian and pro-Soviet island in the middle of Europe. Germans, Poles, Romanians, Hungarians, Bulgarians, Ukrainians, balturds and their western masters can suck our cocks.
>>60029695
> You're also making the (incredibly false) assumption that the government can provide better quality education at the expense of your taxes better than the Free Market can. Which is quite false.
> all the first world countries have huge social guarantees but you please leave under free market without welfare and free stuff
> Why would I want free things at the expense of my salary when I can provide a service to the world and buy them myself?
you don't.
but you still live in Canada. you will never move into brasil or russia where the Free Market rules ;)
It gave the USA a rival and the world as a whole was able to make tremendous scientific progress.
Are you still scared of the gulag? You can say things were bad now it's ok
>>60029867
>but you still live in Canada. you will never move into brasil or russia where the Free Market rules ;)
I'm getting a US citizenship then moving to Costa Rica soon.
>>60029358
>>60029412
People didn't starve though, they couldn't just always eat what they wanted.
>>60029957
> the world as a whole was able to make tremendous scientific progress
> le we went to the moon and shit
>>60030186
>Serbian GDP PER CAPITA is 3/4th of ROMANIA's
ROMANIA!!!
Hahahahahahahahaha
Stay poor my friends
>>60029695
>Literally a shithole that everyone who was semi-talented/successful at anything tried to flee from.
70%+ of Russians voted to preserve the USSR
>>60030490
>70%+ of Russians voted to preserve the USSR
70% were drunken bydlo who are easily deceived.
All the talented Russians have long fled either USSR or Russia to become Professors, Scientists, Researchers, Engineers etc in the western(civilized) world because their efforts are actually valued there.
>>60030186
>we wuz tesla n sheit
>>60030563
most soviet citizens were smart and cultured people
>>60030641
No one who is smart could fall for such a shitty and unsustainable system
>>60030563
What are you talking about shithead? Russians are very proud and patriotic people and they'd rather remain in Russia and work for less than sell their souls for loaf of western bread. Go jerk off to anime you fucking Canadian.
>>60030708
>Russians are very proud and patriotic people and they'd rather remain in Russia and work for less than sell their souls for loaf of western bread
Why is there so many Russian surnames in software companies, University professors and such?
>they'd rather remain in Russia and work for less than sell their souls for loaf of western bread
Everyone who has enough move/an opportunity to leave does so you stupid naive faggot.
>Go jerk off to anime you fucking Canadian
go be poorer than ROMANIA. YOU'RE POORER THAN GYPSIES LMAO! LITERAL GYPSIES. I can't even make this shit up, you're literally poorer... than gypsies
manly women at the lympics
god damn she be thick
>>60028629
The anthem
>>60031004
The anthem is literally nearly identical currently
>>60028629
It wasn't run by VFX automobile pizza robots
>>60030810
Russia won't collapse because of a few traitors, who got brainwashed by the glitzy and gleamy consumerist lifestyle, left the country to work for dirty western money. I'd rather remain poor and with a clear conscience than betray my country and go work for the same people who bombed it. You Westerners are selfish and think the purpose in life is to be fat and visit the mall every other day, buying stuff that 90% you don't even need. Sad.
>>60031367
>wanting to be a slave to communism
i guess you weren't one of the chess champions
>>60030673
>>60030289
>>60030140
>>60029695
Please tell me you're an "anarcho-capitalist".
>>60031367
Stay mad & poor lmao.
I'm sure when you're on your deathbed and remembering all the things you never got to enjoy because of your lack of money and "evil western capitalist pigz" God will see how loyal you were to your country and the cause and reward you greatly.
Nah he probably won't lmao
>>60031423
What are you talking about you stupid britbong, communism vanished 25 years ago.
USSR collapsed cuz they did not change their centralized planned economy to an decentralized planned economy utilizing computers, and giving colective and democratic ownership to the workers. They did started it in the 50's but the hardline burocracy stopped the project and in the end what they had was a state capitalist society.
>>60031813
This.
Communism is based, gulags and free things 4 life
>>60031813
> USSR collapsed cuz they did not change their centralized planned economy to an decentralized planned economy
Guess what, Fernando. When they finally did that in 1991, western "investors", who quickly formed coalition with domestic "investors", plundered and pillaged every state enterprise. Firms were literally being sold for 10$.
>>60028629
I will try list them:
Healthcare is free
kindergarten, school, uni are free
you will get work after graduation
free commieblock flat or place in hostel
Good mathematics and physics education
that's all
>>60031947
>we dindu nuffin, it was all the evil west and those capitalists that made our countries so shit
lmao
Try taking some responsibility for your mistakes maybe, not everything is "the evil jewish western conspiracy of NATO trying to destroy to the strong noble people who dindu nuffin"
>>60028645
Fpbp
>>60031947
this is what i mean for decentralized economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_planning_(economics)
wich also mean abandoning currency, not selling every thing to private investors
>>60031947
it's true but almost every product from ussr was more expensive and in the same time lesser quality than we could export.
>>60031886
Also free gulag trips for "lolberts".
I'm surprised no one mentioned the big plus of the USSR:
How many Russians died because of it
Stalin was based as fuck, too bad he didn't complete his mission :(
>>60032012
Are you an idiot? I said that western pillagers formed a coalition with domestic "new capitalists" and politicians so that they could buy state enterprises for very low prices. Firms which were worth 200 million were sold for 10 million and the ones who we're doing the estimation got their share of the deal. One sugar refinery was literally sold for 1 euro. We had capitalism for 16 years and every year is worse than the last. Some can't take it anymore and emigrate to western countries, even though they bombed us and destroyed our infrastructure and factories. I'd never do that. I'd rather kill myself and cease to be with dignity that betray my country and go work in the West.
>>60032367
>I'd rather kill myself and cease to be with dignity that betray my country and go work in the West
What's stopping you? It would be more preferable to living your life in Serbia, lmao.
>>60032367
You can read hodorkovsky book about his company and how people bought these companies. My mother worked in one and until it was bought there were not receiving money because factory was in debt
>>60032496
Nah that's a western traitor author, don't read him.
Read the wonderful works of Lenin and Karl Marx.
>>60032428
Could you just fuck off you stupid gook? Go to nearest mosque and pray for you ancestors you stupid maple syrup drinking chink.
>>60032036
>>60029178
/v/-tier posts
very sad
>This thread
>>60032496
It wasn't hard for them to pay off the firm's debt when they bought the firm extremely cheap.
>>60032367
The problem with yuguslavia was that they gave the factories for the workers, but they didn't abolish the market and wage labor.
>>60032736
yeah that's what they did. They bought factories AND their debts
>>60029412
>>60029358
Waiting in line for food =/= starving.
>>60032496
>hodorkovsky
>hold the door
>>60029695
>Why would I want free things at the expense of my salary when I can provide a service to the world and buy them myself?
Get a load of this faggot.
>>60032852
Epic!
>>60032803
Yeah, they bought the factories 10-20 times cheaper than their real value, so paying off the factory's debt was no problem. That fact was even used to further legitimize the nationwide plundering. Do you really believe that foreigners buy state enterprises out of good will and to make the country prosperous? What they do is they analyze domestic prices of necessary comodities and set wages to the substinence level. Since there's mass unemployment, workers can only shut up and work for 200 euros a month. You're so naive and gullible, Boris.
>>60030563
Right, because the Soviet Union definitely never made any major technological innovations.
>>60031813
100% this. Two things screwed the Soviets, corruption, and the logistical issues of managing such a massive economy.
Democratization of the state would allow the people to hold politicians to account far more easily, thus fighting corruption.
Splitting the economy up into various autonomous soviets controlled by the workers would have solved the economy issue.
Also not spending all their money on weapons probably would have helped.
>>60033163
>corruption
seems you know almost nothing about USSR
>>60032869
t. NEET whose parents are very close to kicking him out so he needs some new parents to take their role
>>60033163
How the fuck can you "decentralize" a socialist government which needs absolute power to take peoples' things?
>Give some people all the power
>Hurr durr let's just hope they don't corrupt as people have been shown time and time again to do when they are given immense control
>>60033005
You don't understand one thing: if they were not bought they would be demolished or just abandoned. There were people working there who would be without jobs. That's reality. Better have some companies that owned by foreign investors than no companies at all
>>60033344
>Better have some companies that owned by foreign investors than no companies at all
>Selling out to evil western capitalist dogs instead of being prideful and just letting them get demolished like a big strong proud man
lmao cuckold
>>60033275
>How the fuck can you "decentralize" a socialist government
You can have an economy based on free markets but instead of private corporations you have autonomous soviets under democratic worker's control competing with each other.
>which needs absolute power to take peoples' things?
The government doesn't need absolute power, it just needs the power to redistribute the means of production. Political repression, lack of free speech, oligarchic control and all the other shitty things that happened in the USSR happened because the government cracked down on these thing during the revolution and civil war to consolidate itself and then just never let go. Same old shit you see in every revolution, right or left wing. It has nothing to do with socialism itself.
>>60033509
>it just needs the power to redistribute the means of production
Why should it be redistributed? Who decided that?
>>60033593
Well in the Soviet Union the Bolshevik party did, but nobody is for a second suggesting the Soviet Union was democratic.
In general I would hope that such a decision should be made democratically and legitimately. Although desu I'm not much for redistribution on that scale.
>>60033602
It's a little ironic considering your country has one of the highest percentages of muslims in Europe and that it's a literal shithole
>TFW stalin and hitler didn't kill enough of you subhumans
It's a bad feel.
>>60033681
You are illiterate aren't you? As I said before the only thing you need to do is turn off your device, find some bleach and drink it. It tastes like maple syrup I promise
why are canadian posters so trash?
>>60033827
Don't Russians inject bleach these days?
What is krokodil a composition of, generally? Bleach seems like a core component
>that one underaged chinknadian with his hot opinion
>>60033681
>>60034076
>Trying to explain logic to people
>"Lol ur so stoopid socialism is the best it just never works and always seems to fail or result in major issues for its citizens, lol you're so dumb, IF ONLY x, y, z things were changed, and the government wasn't corrupt magically and people did all these other things and then a, b, c happened THEN it would be a flawless system. trust me. It will work this time, don't worry"
>>60034530
>Cherrypicking: the image
Why don't you include the drug usage, suicide, violent crime, average wages, et cetera statistics as a comparison instead?
>google: Fat man
>google: black rapper
>google: this is what a feminist looks like
>google: man in motorized scooter
CHECKMATE AMERILARDS, THE WEST BTFO
>>60034680
>>60034680
>This is normal in Russia
Capitalism had to treat people nicely, otherwise it could have lost everything. The incentive to keep people healthy is now gone.
>>60034749
>TFW capitalism is so shit but every major country is now embracing capitalism because of western propaganda
>>60034680
Why do Russian children do this?
>>60034542
>"Lol ur so stoopid socialism is the best it just never works and always seems to fail or result in major issues for its citizens,
The Soviet Union under socialism turned the poorest Eurasian serfdom into the America's only superpower rival in just 50 years.
It brought relative prosperity to its citizens and caused literacy to soar.
Imperial Russia was apparently not headed in that direction.
>>60034958
With immense deaths and sufferings of tens of millions of people and it wasn't sustainable in the slightest and eventually collapsed because of its obvious flaws.
>>60029844
You literally suck Western COCK all the time.
>>60029358
>>60029412
>implying people weren't starving just as hard during Yeltsin's burgerclap-backed """democratic""" regime
Textbooks in America always showed food lines from the 90's to make a point of how shit POST-Soviet Union was
>>60033008
>have you ever wanted to leave the USSR so badly that you left the entire planet
>>60035063
2bh, soviet and communist states usually collapsed because central soviet authorities created puppet states where they appointed incompetent, bumbling dictators so they could control the country's internal affairs for their own purposes, rather than the country's interests proper.
It's a lot like how America works pretty well, but America's puppet states are almost without exception shitty places to live.
>>60028629
Space program that BTFO the USA.
>>60037686
It ain't how you start, it's how you finish.
>>60028629
You could go for an artist or scientist job and actually get somewhere, or so I'm told by nostalgiafags who grew up in the old regime.
You country actually won international competitions instead of the team's sponsors stealing the money at the expense of the country's dignity.
Your country's domestically-produced movies weren't shit (if you ignore their propaganda-oriented aspects, of course)
>>60037843
Perfectly directed.
>>60037843
>"It ain't how you start, it's how you finish."
>missed the opportunity to land on a comet
>missing opportunities to survey the moon, literally could have done it several times now, said "nah"
>passed up the opportunity to survey mercury, literally could have done it several times now, said "nah"
>"the private sector will handle asteroid surveying, something that has never been done and has a much higher risk disincentive than almost any other expense", government literally could have done it several times now, said "nah"
>hasn't updated equipment in literally two generations, literally could have done it several times now, said "nah"
>literally pajeet can into space more cheaply,
literally could have fixed this several times now, said "nah"
yes, because all great winners said "I'm so great I don't even need to race".
>>60028645
/thread
>>60028645