Is it socially acceptable to support trump in america?
When a country is divided over a single man you can't really ask if it's socially acceptable to support him, that would imply only a political faction can determine what's acceptable, which is very German I give you that.
>>60016534
I don't see why not. He's pretty popular(the republican nominee) is he not?
If he's doing so well in polls, someone MUST like him.
Not if you live in a large urban center or any other state/county with a large young/liberal population. Then you will be constantly berated for being a "racist bigot."
Bible belt? Yeah. Williamsburg? Probably not.
You might as well admit you're currently reading Mein Kampf
>>60016534
>socially acceptable
Not really. He has a -22.6 favorability spread even after becoming the presumptive nominee. Republicans will rally to him out of partisan loyalty, but a healthy majority of Americans strongly dislike him and look down on his supporters as either stupid or maleficent.
>>60016534
D R U M P F
Keep in mind that the media is still jizzing over its ratings and hasn't even begun to challenge him on his idiotic statements and totally zany policy positions.
I'm pretty sure they'd be better off denying the holocaust.
>>60016534
desu I see him ripping Hilary to shreds in any sort of debate, so there could be a decent chance of him winning
I can't wait for him to lose so in a year or two 90% of his fanatics will claim they "never expected him to win" and that they're not actually racist because they never seriously supported him.
Ivanka2024
>>60016707
His very loud and media savvy supporters idolize him like some kind of god (of memes), but the reality is that most people don't like him or them. He's basically the /r/4chan candidate.
it shouldnt be
>>60017347
keep in mind, he bailed out on having a debate with Bernie
>>60017347
When it's down to him and Clinton, the media no longer needs to prop him up for their own self interest in ratings, and will not be as easy on him as they have been. Also, he's going to look like a buffoon next to Hillary and will just help people visualize her as being presidential by comparison. He's basically the only way the Republicans will lose against the Democrats' least popular candidate in decades, which is pretty amazing
>>60016789
or being a troll.
or being retarded.
which, if you do support trump, you are one of
>>60017574
Oh, and he'll also cause the Republicans to suffer losses in Congress and on the state and local level, basically reversing a six years of unprecedented gains. The Republicans will be sorting this one out for a while and I imagine that a year from now many of the pro Trump quislings will be personae non gratae in the party
>>60017413
Why are his rallies so jam packed then? Paid actors?
>>60017574
>Also, he's going to look like a buffoon next to Hillary and will just help people visualize her as being presidential by comparison
holy shit, you are literally the increasingly nervous man.
>>60017714
He's an extremely famous celebrity and television star carrying out one of the world's greatest trolls-- do you really think he wouldn't be able to draw crowds?
His campaign does have a tendency to lie about and exaggerate the numbers, even so
>>60017868
>the increasingly nervous man
I'm not really familiar with 4chan political memes, I get most of my information about politics by reading long-form articles in newspapers, magazines, and online. I bet this is a funny meme, though.
>>60016534
Generally no. The PC police are out looking for dissidents right now. Luckily the ballot is anonymous.
>>60017353
I support him because of his anti-Iraq war stance mostly. Presidents have the most power over diplomacy and foreign policy, not economics or social policy (Courts and Legislators decide those). The Republican party is basically full of warmongers and even Hillary and Obama dabble heavily in that (Syria, Libya, Yemen)
So not all of his supporters are "racist". Some of us just prioritize foreign policy and war policy over everything since that's the biggest effect of the presidency
Nope, that would be racist
>>60017971
you're the meme; you people have kept insisting "surely Trump will never be able to win", "once X, it will be over for Trump!" but you've been consistantly wrong every step of the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyRIgPImOY
>>60017982
>Luckily the ballot is anonymous
Good meme, but the evidence contradicts the notion of "secret" Trump voters who are afraid to declare their support
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-supporters-probably-arent-lying-to-pollsters/
Now that he's the nominee, it's more likely that there are Republicans who just won't bother voting, despite saying that they "support the nominee." So, the opposite of what you're suggesting is probably true.
>>60018072
>you people
My autistic friend, I don't know what you're talking about.
I never had any doubts that Trump could get the nomination. Winning the election is a totally different matter
>>60018168
No, it really isn't. Trump will win, and I wish I could be there to see you eat your words when it happens.
>>60018256
Are you a US expat? Why are you so pro-Trump? He's not pro-Norway or anything
>>60018119
Trump's support is only growing stronger.
>>60017760
It's the truth. Clinton and Trump have the largest disapproval ratings since records started being kept in the 80s.
>>60018347
>He's not pro-Norway or anything
I don't know what this means. Clinton wouldn't be better for Norway than Trump, nor would Sanders.
>>60018361
Of course it is, he won the nomination and now the Republicans who hated/loathed/feared him are offering their tepid words of support out of party loyalty-- with the notable exception of a few prominent party leaders
But that's not enough to win. Even if he had 100% of all Republicans behind him, he'd have an uphill battle. The truth is that he probably does not have a large enough coalition to win
>>60018464
Actually, Trump would be worse for Norway, since he thinks that flooding the global markets with huge excesses in US energy production is somehow a desirable thing
Trump has made me feel patriotic for the first time in my life. Regardless of all the stupid shit he's said the overall message is still great for America and its citizens. When my choice is Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton you'd have to a fucking moron to vote for Clinton. Getting told you're racist for not wanting illegal immigrants gets tiring really fast. Shit I thought was common sense like putting your country and its citizens first is apparently something that the left and progressives don't seem to value and this is coming from someone that used to identify as a liberal. Also gun rights
>>60017438
there's no point, he doesn't want to alienate Bernie voters
>>60018408
CANO
>>60018573
what
>>60017413
>beating Hillary on some polls already
>handily won the Republican primaries
>nobody likes him
are you this retarded?
Trump is the best thing to happen to this country in decades. He's literally quashed the group think that liberals have been cultivating since the 90s.
>>60018573
>americans think their shitty presidents move our lives in any way
>>60018119
>538
dumb faggot, Nate Silver has been consistently wrong this entire election cycle, he has no clue what he's talking about
Trump routinely performed above polled in the primaries
>>60018526
Don't be a faggot. We've memed him this far. We can meme him into the white house.
>>60018781
>>americans think their shitty presidents move our lives in any way
then why are you nerds always so obsessed with out presidency?
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/01/04/europeans-should-be-allowed-vote-u-s-elections
>>60018781
They do for Canada..
>fuck up all of eastern Europe
>try to take credit for successes of western liberal democracies in Scandinavia
fuck Jewish Marxists
>>60018921
I hope captain cuckold is ready for us. We'll liberate Canada as soon as possible.
>>60018997
I just want the US and Eastern Canada to fuck off.
>>60016789
i second this, i live in liberal state and i shit you not, if you goto a county that you see trump won people will love trump but in my county where its very liberal if you even put a trump sticker on the ground you will get ur shit kicked
>>60017711
this is the last election with a traditional republican party. they will restructure by the time the next election comes through.
>>60017574
this so much. trump is a lifelong democrat voter. i remember the moment i heard that he was running as a republican, i thought, "hey thats one hell of a way to subvert the republican party"
and here we are. fucking no one likes hillary,but she is still going to win
>>60018927
They don't even make sense to me, since Jews tend to naturally understand economics.
>>60018921
You'd think a highly trained soldier would know how to position a gun in his mouth to shoot himself
>>60019137
Japanese don't know anything about guns.
>>60018781
>Our lives
Are you living in Finland and speaking for Norway?
>>60018636
>Shit I thought was common sense like putting your country and its citizens first is apparently something that the left and progressives don't seem to value and this is coming from someone that used to identify as a liberal. Also gun rights
You were never a liberal if you're this malleable
>>60018464
Clinton no. She's pretty neocon with NATO. Sanders is arguably the candidate any foreigner should support as he's generally a non-militarist isolationist, so best for the world.
>>60019087
>Eastern Canada
You mean the best part of Canada and the cultural heartland of Canada?
>>60018781
NSA spying does, as do market fluctuations since markets are so interconnected. Like the 2008 crash.
>>60018875
>http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/01/04/europeans-should-be-allowed-vote-u-s-elections
i would allow it. if we had a few of you fucks voting im sure we would have gotten trump vs bernie which would have been EXTREMELY interesting.
im writing in myself this election.
>>60019092
>Hillary is going to win
>literally a Wall Street puppet combined with some internet feminism
I bet her first priority as president is to fix the pay gap for Wall Street executives.
Honestly better than Bernie's disastrous proposals.
>>60019401
I mean the part that's responsible for flooding my beautiful green province with pakis and chinks.
>>60019201
Norgays are bros
also our economies dont run on burgers.
>>60019401
>cultural
>Canada
IN THE SAME SENTENCE!???
>>60018875
>>60018875
Both the writer of that article and the writer of the article that article are about are both loathesome ends of the spectrum. A vulgar neoconservative and a Belgium SJW, yuck.
>>60016534
Not really.
Where I live (Vermont), no. I have had my car vandalized by a Bernout, as well as my lawn.
>>60018875
nice sources m8
>>60019914
Gotta squeeze some /cum/ banter into there :^)
But yes, eastern Canada is the older (and one of the oldest) parts of North America and home to all the Canada cultural memes, like Hockey, Poutine and the adorable Newfie accent
>>60020308
Thats not even cum banter, just common knowledge.
>>60019481
the thing about bernie is that he is an outsider like trump. his ridiculous ideas would have never made it through congress because he alienated most of the democratic party. but he also had some legitimately good ideas that i think couldve helped us in the coming years.
i would have no problem swallowing my pride and accepting that i voted in a terrible mistake (hypothetically speaking), if only i could get an opportunity to actually shake things up with my vote.
i think the biggest problem with our election is that the actual peoples votes get pushed to the side by each states "super-delegates" who are bought and payed for by the big-wig politicians, and have fuck all to do with democracy. this is exactly what happened in new york state, where the majority of voters wanted sanders, but the primaries are closed to independents. and you have to register something like ten months before the primary or you cannot participate. so thanks to hillary's super-delegate friends, a political loophole, and the electoral college, the entire state of NY ended up voting hillary. which is in stark contrast to the actual opinion of the people who were overwhelmingly in support of sanders.
>>60020082
What, you don't trust this abundantly-sized gentlesir's writing?
>>60020532
4/5 hes missing the neckbeard
>>60016789
No, just stupid.
>>60020554
If I was "man enough" wouldn't I be a leader, not a follower?
>>60020554
Looks like a terrorist 2bh
>>60020554
The beard does nothing to make him look less effeminate.
>>60020554
this is fake right?
Not here. Lifelong friends will be disgusted with me. I do live in one of the most liberal parts of the country though.
>>60020739
not in canada
>>60016700
You got why we still have problems with democracy, opposing viewpoints make us angry.
>>60016534
Trump is the opposite of Sanders in this regard. I live in Chicago and everyone here "loves" Sanders and "hates" Trump, Trump even had to cancel his appearance here because protestors shut it down. But when the actual primaries came around, Trump won by a landslide and Bernie lost. I think there are a lot of people who pretend to hate Trump just so they don't get harassed, but they quietly support him and vote for him.
So no, in liberal areas he is not socially acceptable to support. If some of my friends knew I didn't hate him they would stop being my friends.
>>60019481
>disastrous proposals.
Not ideal ones, but compared to the actions of the past 2 presidents they're awfully mild. It is vastly better and more moral to spend 1 trillion more on healthcare than it is to spend 1.5 trillion on a failed war
I mostly support bernie/the left because I want to see the neoconservatives get karma for 2000-2008. Well more than they already are due to demographic changes and immigration, gay marriage freaking them out
>>60017411
so pretty. can't blame trump for saying he would tap that if she wasn't his daughter
Plenty of Trump supporters here in North Texas.
>>60018072
Hold kjeft da, du får nordmenn til å se dum ut hvis du noen gang trodde uironisk at trump vil vinne valget.
>>60018347
I'm sorry, he's not representing the average Norwegian - we're not all retarded.
>>60018636
Same reason AFD gets votes.
>>60020965
Kjeften på deg selv, sau. Gå å bli hanreiet av APe's lille rǿde
>>60020965
Se, den stadig mer nervǿse mannen viser seg.
>>60020936
Xa-xa, that's the only thing my mother remembered about him from MTV. This and fake hair.
>>60020889
>If some of my friends knew I didn't hate him they would stop being my friends
and here is the problem.
me and my buddies were just talking about this. it is impossible to even discuss politics in america right now because the opinions and candidates are so polarized that we get grown ass adults giving each other the silent treatment because of opposing political views. if we dont talk about the problems of the world (in this case my country), how can we expect it to improve?
it is the same kind of obstacle you encounter when you try to discuss other polarizing issues such as abortion, gun rights, gay marriage etc...
>>60020889
Only republicans vote in the rep. primary you fucking moron
>>60021389
Illinois is closed poll?
>>60021130
>han tror jeg er rod helt ut av intet
>>60016534
depends where you are, northern states hate him but southern states love him.
>>60020951
>North Texas
I'm so sorry
>>60021483
De eneste som fornekter baserte Trumps framgang er kommunister uten utdanning og tapere. Du er helt sikkert mellom 15-18 selv og tror du har forstått verden.
>>60021260
Yup...herr it is the refugees.
>But they are human!!!!
Oh fuck off, let them into your flat if you love em so much instead od having other people pay for it.
Asshats.
>>60021260
>right now
>literally admitting to being underage
It has been taboo to discuss politics in the US for well over half a century. Despite that, people who aren't autistic like you and your friends can still have an argument without ending up hating each other
>>60021532
Jeg er konservativ. Ingen kan fornekte hans fremgang som kandidat, men presidentvalgkampen er brutal, og han har media mot seg. Han kommer til å bli slaktet, og dét er hva jeg forstår.
>>60021487
>Northern States
Not necessarily true... it's all relative to other republicans. Northerners might dislike Trump or not, but overall people like Santorum and Cruz are disliked the most for their warhawkishness and religious fundamentalism.
I'm one of them, his character is quite ugly, but his stances on many staple republican issues are a hell of a lot better than crap like Jeb or Cruz. Mainstream insider Republicans are just "Jesus, war and tax cuts on the rich" to us.
Trump fans in the north are either formerly uninvolved people with "reinvigorated patriotism" or younger people who are into the resurgent internet conservatism. Fans of Jeb instead, if you can find any, are the "I don't wanna go to heck!" sheltered types who mildly support him because he's republican, but don't really know why. Trump supporters actually argue in favor of his ideals and positions.
>>60022065
>warhawkishness
The word is hawkish, and it implies warmongering. Not sure where you got that from
>>60022201
Hawkish sounds a bit too noble
Not publicly
But it's funny how Trump's slandered for saying misogynistic things, when Hillary's married to a man who penetrated a 21 year old in the oval office using a cigar tube.
>>60022065
Santorum is a great name for a movie baddy.
Seriously, why not Vader if we go down that road.
>>60022581
>Hillary is literally a cuck, following the non-meme definition
>>60022581
She wasn't even pretty
>>60022623
He got trolled to make that name associated with anal-sex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_%22santorum%22_neologism
>>60021536
you missed the point hans. i dont want shitty arab immigrants. the fact of the matter is if we cant talk about the issue, the decision gets made for us and we end up like... well... germany and sweden drowning in muzzie cum
>>60022975
I was agreeing with you and adding that we alsohave pokarising themes.
You will never drown in anything but latinos, the seas protect you.
I was just ranting about stupid arguments used here.
>>60016534
It's socially acceptable to like Trump in places where he polls well, and socially unacceptable to like him in places where he polls poorly.
Such is the nature of a polarized election.
>>60017574
>>60017711
>>60019092
You severely underestimate the importance of branding and persuasion. Trump has literally been under a barrage of negative press since he announced his candidacy and that didn't stop him from eviscerating the Republican competition and coming within single digits of Clinton earlier this month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jR3jWMsTmE
If Clinton significantly steps her branding and persuasion game up in the next 6 months, she'll win easily. If she continues to plod along like she's been doing for the last year, she'll get crushed like a bug.
Considering how she lost to a junior senator in '08 and how she let a 74-year old socialist take a plurality of votes from her in the primary this late in the game, I am extremely skeptical she will right her ship.
